DEEV, marcel, everyone else get in here.
>If given the choice, who would you rather be known as: a person respected for maintaining a certain level of honesty and integrity, or a person who gets made fun of for their tendency to embarrass themselves on the internet?
>You really can’t be both
what if you're being made fun of by ignorant retards who think you're wrong when you're really right? Dumb point right off the bat, meredith
Vice is literally the epitome of post-modern trash. They pander exclusively to the lowest degenerate dredges of Western culture, populated exclusively by people who never mentally matured beyond 16.
The culture surrounding internet commenting has created a new kind of cruelty powerful enough to shift previously-established scientific understanding on the nature of human kindness. Scientists have been warning us about the dangers of anonymity for years via accounts like the infamous Milgram Experiment.
lol that fucking sell-out piece of shit
her and her band pretend to champion "DIY" ethics and communities yet she's writing for the fucking publication that singlehandedly destroyed the DIY scene that birthed her band/served as fodder for their PR campaign.
Perhaps, Meredith, you should be less concerned about why musicians act like terrible people online, and more about why some are simply such terrible, unbearable, two-faced pieces of shit in ALL facets of life.
>tfw I've gotten so close to @ replying to Marcel on Twitter telling him what an utter piece of shit he's been
>I stuck up for the little twat when /mu/ used to bully him
>I don't say shit to him because I don't want to look like a fucking spastic to people I actually know who follow me
It's ok though, I know he's reading this. Still, doesn't really pack the same punch when there's no name attached to it.
Dev didn't "join in", he just told the kid to fuck off for shamelessly promoting his blog in the third person and asking for an interview. Little shitwad decided that ruining his career (or trying and failing to, rather) would be an appropriate and proportional response to this.
I used to defend him, but he's actually an awful person for this.
Damn it meredith
Devin didn't claim his comments didn't matter because they were on the internet, he said they weren't racist because they were jokes made on a specific niche website where making racist jokes is the common thing to do
Elliott Rodger didn't post his manifestos on a site predominantly known for satire/mocking of manifestos. If that's what youtube was, he probably wouldn't have posted his videos there because he wouldn't want his videos mistaken for satire.
>kid shamelessly viral markets himself on /mu/
>/mu/ is /mu/
>kid throws a tantrum because Dev doesn't give him special treatment that he thinks he's entitled to
>Kid attempts to sabotage Dev for because Dev didn't suck kid's tiny dick
>/mu/ recognizes that kid is a cunt and exposes him as the lying, two-faced, backstabbing, plagiarizing turd he is
The comments are linked to fb and I don't want to look like a spastic, but if someone is willing to do so they're more than welcome to copy/paste that into the comments of the article
So who is she talking about exactly?
Dev obviously, for pointing out that she is a terrible person.
Probably that metal singer who got fired from that band nobody ever heard of for saying 'faggot' on fb.
But who else?
Is 2 people really "So many"?
She literally has nothing interesting to offer or discuss, why do people let her write these stupid things?
Meredith's fav record of 2014 was RTJ2. Apparently she doesn't find 'misogynist' language problematic when it's in the context of hip hop. I literally don't care about anything she could possibly have to say.
>Apparently she doesn't find 'misogynist' language problematic when it's in the context of hip hop
No, she doesn't find 'misogynist' language problematic when it comes from black people. A white hop-hop artist she would totally whinge about.
This is because she either thinks black people are better, or because she thinks whites need to be held to a higher standard, like they should 'know better'.
Either way she's a racist.
Marcel posted a link to his music blog in a Dev thread and asked Dev if he would do an interview with Marcel.
Dev jokingly said, "I have no idea who this is, but literally fuck this fool"
Marcel threw a tantrum and screncapped Dev's posts and sent them to the PC Police.
you hit the nail on the head, but at the same time I disagree. THE REAL REASON IDIOTS LIKE HER WON'T ADDRESS THE "MISOGYNY" IN RAP (I don't think rap is misogynistic) IS BECAUSE WHITE COWARDS ARE SCARED OF BLACKS. AND AS THEY SHOULD BE.
ONLY WAY A WHITE COWARD WILL LEARN IS THROUGH INTIMIDATION.
>A white hop-hop artist she would totally whinge about.
She said she laughed to tears at the "you can all run naked backwards through a field of dicks" line.
That line is said by El-P and El-P is white... Do you even know what you're talking about?
So "suck my cock" is problematic language and misogynistic, but THIS is totally ok and her favorite music of the year? ::
On our time of innocence
When we drank that Hennessy
Ate on lamb and venison
Face fucked you in your kitchenette
Fucked you like we tusslin'
Do you fuck your husbaland
Like, do y'all be tusslin'?
Do you wear the muzzlin'
Do you ask him pretty please
Do you crawl on hands and knees
Like you used to do for me
Oh, you such a dirty girl
>implying there's no dissonance here
Because he's a POC when he face fucks a member of the oppressing class he's just making amends for hundreds of years of slavery and oppression.
It's not misogynistic because white women have oppressed black men.
Why do people think so many artists viral on /mu/? It's not like this is a huge epicentre of music. Look at the poster counts on most threads, they barely break 50, reaching about 100 on the busiest threads.
I really don't like Meredith Graves. She really just seems to feel a need to be really, really self righteous. Even if you agree with her ideals (I don't) she just handles everything in such a pompous way. She needs to stop writing these godawful op-eds. Ugh
the thing is: if the inddustry wants Marcel, because he is a skinny marginal group motherfucker, then they will make him into something.
i mean look at lorde (fights for women with beards) and that fat girl singing about bass and treeble.
it won't be about music - it's about marginal group stuff.
marcel will be a hero for wimps
well, i hate so say this, but /mu/ isn't the music world's guide, you know. it doesn't bother what /mu/ wants and who /mu/ hates.
in reality, no one cares about /mu/ anymore. sorry to burst your bubble.
When did Vice become such a SJW mouthpiece?
Their readership is young males that want to read articles about bizarre drugs and look at nudie photos by the likes of Richard Kern and Terry Richardson. They don't want this radfem drivel.
you're only 50/50 % right. i used to collect vice magazine, but stopped 2-3 years ago. i live in berlin, germany, and here are more "hipster girls" who read vice than young males etc.
it usually were young males looking for bizarre stuff, but times changed
plus vice is hopping the social justice bandwaggon and i fucking hate them for what they are today
What we are seeing is the rise off the authoritarian left online. These SJW stormtroopers are hell bent on censoring and shutting down all freedom of expression and debate on the internet (and elsewhere).
All they are actually doing is repelling everyone to the extreme right. Look at youtube etc and you'll see how much the comments have swung to the right since all the SJW bullshit over the past couple of years.
Isn't it Goddamned tragic too?
The left's mouthpiece is censorship crazed leftists, and the right's is the psychopathy known as right-libertarianism.
It left most rational people sitting in the dust wondering what the hell happened.
Fascism is certainly rising too, which is also troubling,
but popular sentiment (In America at least) has definitely shifted towards sheer corporatism.
I forget and get too centered on America, Europe's problems are obviously going to be different.
/mu/ for the love of Christ, stop it.
You're better than this. I'm from /v/ and I watched as my board took Anita's b8 time and time again, and it's subsequent slow decent into utter madness there after.
I see this exact situation being mirrored in threads about Meredith, which i can only say, will be your down fall if pursued seriously.
stop taking Meredith Graves' bait
just fucking let it be, there's nothing that can be done except to destroy ourselves.
Because when a woman is saying this, it's the language of enpowerment.
When man says it, it's the languageof rape.
women are incapable of raping because rape is a social construct put together by the patriarchical system all men (yes, all men) are contributing to because they have genetically internalized it and turned into a subconscious oppressive behavior of male "jouissance".
It's like you've never been to a gender studies lecture ever I am litteraly puking.
Unless it's possible to turn the problem into a racial or gender issue, SWJ are not interested.
Zomby is just being stupid, and his stupidity isn't covered by SWJs rethorics, so...
>mfw vice still publishes some interesting, bold articles, still promotes investigation and gonzo journalism
>mfw 99% of their readership doesn't give a shit and is just in there because they used to be "in" and because of the blog-tier articles
anonymity is not what the milgram experiment concerns. milgram is about obedience.
fuck graves, her p4k article about sun kil moon was also ridiculous bullshit. and i'm left-wing as fuck and a feminist. perfect pussy are overrated and she comes across as massively pseudo-intellectual
>more like a wannabe essayist
That's the problem with Graves and the whole blogging clique. None of them is actually competent or trained so all they do is stupidly using some writing tricks they've read about in Journalism for Dummies. it's all so fucking obvious, none of them have any idea how to write a correct piece.
Why does Marcel always claim someone else is doing things for him and it's not him being a sad, sad, sad little homeschooled boy desperate for validation?
You don't understand, they are black, they can't be wrong. If you say anything a black person does is wrong, that makes you racist.
It's not sexism,it's part of african-american culture (since clearly, ALL black people are african-american, gathering them all into that category is not racist in the slightest way)
I happened upon a recent interview/performance vid of The Julie Ruin and Kathleen Hanna is much...thicker than before. It's actually pretty becoming, but I had had no idea. I guess all of those people are pretty old now.
>Growing up, in part, means acknowledging your own role in maintaining your happiness and acknowledging the ways in which you are complicit in the unhappiness of other people.
Growing up is accepting the loneliness of autonomy. You're on your own, Graves, and that's good. But you can't make it the nation's cause if your feelings are hurt by one particular tosspot.
Yes, I would. I just wouldn't discuss identity politics with her.
There was an anon here who had a friend who's her regular hookup in Wisconsin. He's terribly in love with her and almost things they're exclusive. Sad, really.
form what i've seen people are much more interested theyre interesting, bold articles & investigation than the stupid noisy blogs and druggie shit.
At least thats what i've gathered from the comments
This is what you have created /mu/. Letting underage plebs run rampant on this board will result in more of this kind of shit. It's already too late for you, but know this: this is all your own fault. You created Marcel, and you fucked this board.
It's not just in the US either.
There's a real shift towards the public splitting into radical left and radical right in Europe too.
It's happening across the globe. It feels like everyone is being pushed to take a radical position.
Very concerning imo.
It's like you read his comment, and translated it into what you wanted it to be.
Most of Vice is shit, but you clearly haven't watched some of the News bits. They do some heavy stuff near combat areas, which has nothing to do with drugs.