simultaneously overlong and lacking in detail. any kind of 'general essentials' list will suffer from this, but by trying to cover everything, this one just kind of ends up being a pointless mess. we already have a number of specialised, detailed essentials charts for individual genres that are readily available for anybody who's interested. quite a few of the recs on this chart are also pretty laughable.
of course, our old general essentials list was also pretty bad, but it at least managed to sort of accurately represent the taste of the board. this one is just overly ambitious.
>>52352670 Cool as that stuff can be I wouldn't call it essential to every music listeners library. You could probably justify Current 93 somewhere in the rock section but it'd be hard to argue a case for it's inclusion with the aim of the chart being to cover historically significant and influential stuff.
It would've been better if it just had very general cream of the crop for most genres without going into ridiculous specifics. Time periods and regions are too much and could be compiled into a smaller, better row. Then if people get into it they can search more on their own. Also everything aside from folk and classic is severely lacking.
>>52352696 >Metal shouldn't even have its own section. Yes it should. Particularly 'harsh' metal has become a separate musical paradigm to rock/pop, and softer metal is varied and nebulous enough that one couldn't get an overall view of the basics of the genre from a small line in the rock section. Harsh metal music has completely different standards, overall aims, and underlying concepts to rock music, and its search for the entirely inaccessible has arrived at a completely opposite bubble of ideas to rock music. Also, if covering influential stuff is your aim, then I suppose current 93 doesn't deserve it, (Maybe at least an album inn the avant-garde rock section) but if coveing interesting and original stuff from all musical eras and paradigms, then one could reasonably justify dedicating an entire section to Current 93.
>>52352808 I think that if that wants to be a comprehensive chart then there should be a section for vaporwave.
Of course we don't want a section for oceangrunge, but I think that In a comprehensive essentials chart, every genre that has developed into a distinct subcultural phenomenon outside of the mainstream deserves a section. (As long as it seperates itself from rock music enough)
>>52352818 Each of the electronic sections should be separated properly, its complete ignorance and stupidity to put techno, breakbeat and acousmatic together and yet have a different section for hip hop.
>>52352838 welp I'll leaving making that comically oversized chart up to you. Good luck either spending the next 5 years listening to every little niche microgenre of music in human history or finding a team of experts on everything from Brill building to grindcore.
>>52352880 >welp I'll leaving making that comically oversized chart up to you. Good luck either spending the next 5 years listening to every little niche microgenre of music in human history or finding a team of experts on everything from Brill building to grindcore Well you'd think that the combined expertise of everyone on /mu/ would be enough to make a chart like that.
>>52352965 Collecting enough representatives that can somewhat accurately convey tastes of their specific group is already hard enough, making them communicate is even harder. Though maybe someone could drop a google survey and have anons type their top 10 for different genres to compile ultimate top 10.
>>52353014 It'd be overwhelmingly biased towards Alt rock and Hip hop. If you were to split it up into different genres, stuff like bluegrass would get completely ignored because there are about 4 bluegrass fans on /mu/.
>>52353041 I mean, if those bluegrass fans still can give their top 10 that's enough it just mean their pool is smaller so top 10 wouldn't be as accurate as for alt rock and hip-hop. "5/10 with 1000 thousand votes versus 10/10 with 2" type of deal.
>>52352997 Sure, I guess you're right. The only generals we regularly see here are /metal/, /kpop/, /bleep/, /hiphop/, /classical/, and a bunch of ironic shitposting generals. I'd like to see /mu/ tants stop being such plebs and occasionally make room for the odd neofolk or punk general...
>>52352327 >Kanye West >Clouddead >Eminem >mos def >assuming jazz rap is going to be abstract or conscious which are totally different things completely (all the hardcore yuo have on there is conscious) >no electro or other early 80s hip hop >no ugk
>Don Cherry's Mu as essential free jazz lol
>no black uhuru since it's not first wave >yet Art Ensemble of Chicago is post bop yet they're second wave and not essential as fuck
>new order's substance even though most of it is watered down pet shop boys; should be PCL or Factus 8
Like I don't have time for this but it shows how retarded mu is and how little they know. I'm not sayiing I know a whole lot, but at least get somebody with some credibility to make this.
stupid thread that tries to make /mu/ appear far more cultured than it actually is. a general essentials list from /mu/ should only include pop music and a few critically acclaimed jazz albums post 1960. the rest of these are superfluous
literally palestrina is the only renaissance musician worthy of mention, and hildegard the only medieval. not sure why philip glass isn't mentioned in contemporary classical when nobody except a select few here listen to alfred schnittke or ligeti. just some more pretension i guess
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