Is this our new general essentials then? I've not heard

>>52352327
>entry level: the jaypeg

>>52352327
elvis presley was a tool. didnt even write his own songs.

/thread

>>52352327
It's mostly compilations

>>52352336
99% of the music posted on this website is entry level one-step-removed, babbies first exploration swapping Billboard for Pitchfork.

>>52352357
Most genres fit compilations better, only rockists disagree.

>>52352364
hence why i don't come here except when im drunk after christmas lunch and dinner to give plebs a piece of my mind

simultaneously overlong and lacking in detail. any kind of 'general essentials' list will suffer from this, but by trying to cover everything, this one just kind of ends up being a pointless mess. we already have a number of specialised, detailed essentials charts for individual genres that are readily available for anybody who's interested. quite a few of the recs on this chart are also pretty laughable.

of course, our old general essentials list was also pretty bad, but it at least managed to sort of accurately represent the taste of the board. this one is just overly ambitious.

>>52352403
Is there a good one for art music? I've never seen it if there is.

>>52352327
>no smiths

>>52352403
>homogenize the taste of the board.

FTFY

>>52352419
>inb4 CLT

>>52352327
>Pastebin also available
Link?

>>52352419
There's one for art pop

>>52352447
I meant art music as in http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_music

>>52352447
>art pop

I think he meant real, actual art music.

>>52352327
If possible Trip-hop should get it's own section under Hip-hop imo. It was a pretty signifigant movement.

>>52352436
Is CLT's bad nessesarily? It's biased and could probably cover essentials a bit better but the actual music on it is pretty good and I could see most beginners liking it.

>>52352336
Isn't that kind of the point with a chart like that?

>>52352455
So pretty much classic? Couple of lists for that too, also for some for jazz and ethnic music.

>>52352561
>ethnic music

>>52352561
>ethnic music.

You mean (traditional) folk.

>>52352580
Ahh yes. Music made by ethnic groups. As opposed to... Chimpanzees?

>>52352327
love you all!

>>52352596
I think the term folk is nearly as bad. Music made by....folks.
like >>52352597 said.

>>52352596
Would't I write "traditional folk" then? I think I would.

>>52352561
>Couple of lists for that too
post them plz.

>>52352597
Don't involve rap in this.
http://www.hiyoooo.com/

>>52352618
Thats what folk music is, not Bob Dylan and Nick Drake.

>>52352620
What do you mean then?

>>52352629
enter in your search engine of choice "mu essential lists"

>>52352647
Not much, just ethnic music.

>>52352327
It's nowhere as comprehensive as it could be, particularly for metal. Also it essentially misses out experimental folk music. (Current 93, Camus .etc.)

>>52352670
Cool as that stuff can be I wouldn't call it essential to every music listeners library. You could probably justify Current 93 somewhere in the rock section but it'd be hard to argue a case for it's inclusion with the aim of the chart being to cover historically significant and influential stuff.

>>52352670
Metal shouldn't even have its own section.

It would've been better if it just had very general cream of the crop for most genres without going into ridiculous specifics. Time periods and regions are too much and could be compiled into a smaller, better row. Then if people get into it they can search more on their own.
Also everything aside from folk and classic is severely lacking.

>>52352327
anyone got a better resolution?

>>52352696
>Metal shouldn't even have its own section.
Yes it should. Particularly 'harsh' metal has become a separate musical paradigm to rock/pop, and softer metal is varied and nebulous enough that one couldn't get an overall view of the basics of the genre from a small line in the rock section. Harsh metal music has completely different standards, overall aims, and underlying concepts to rock music, and its search for the entirely inaccessible has arrived at a completely opposite bubble of ideas to rock music. Also, if covering influential stuff is your aim, then I suppose current 93 doesn't deserve it, (Maybe at least an album inn the avant-garde rock section) but if coveing interesting and original stuff from all musical eras and paradigms, then one could reasonably justify dedicating an entire section to Current 93.

>>52352455
That Wikipedia article says that particularly 'dangerous' forms of rock music (which I would think means stuff like black metal and prog) can be considered art music.

Not saying I agree, just an interesting observation.

>>52352778
We could use the same argument to give a section for vaporwave. But that isn't going to happen either.

im not sure im ok with the "techno" and "breakbeats" sections.

>>52352808
I think that if that wants to be a comprehensive chart then there should be a section for vaporwave.

Of course we don't want a section for oceangrunge, but I think that In a comprehensive essentials chart, every genre that has developed into a distinct subcultural phenomenon outside of the mainstream deserves a section. (As long as it seperates itself from rock music enough)

>>52352818
Each of the electronic sections should be separated properly, its complete ignorance and stupidity to put techno, breakbeat and acousmatic together and yet have a different section for hip hop.

>>52352838
Except vaporwave is a small microgenre and oceangrunge is a dumb /mu/ microgenre which means fuck all.

>>52352838
welp I'll leaving making that comically oversized chart up to you. Good luck either spending the next 5 years listening to every little niche microgenre of music in human history or finding a team of experts on everything from Brill building to grindcore.

If somebody wants to know what /mu/'s essentials are they just need to look at the BNM section on pitchfork.

>>52352897
It's become cool to dislike pitchfork so more people on /mu/ dislike it nowadays.

>>52352880
>welp I'll leaving making that comically oversized chart up to you. Good luck either spending the next 5 years listening to every little niche microgenre of music in human history or finding a team of experts on everything from Brill building to grindcore
Well you'd think that the combined expertise of everyone on /mu/ would be enough to make a chart like that.

>>52352965
you'd think that but then you'd look around you and realize that we actually listen to a really narrow selection of music.

>>52352965
Collecting enough representatives that can somewhat accurately convey tastes of their specific group is already hard enough, making them communicate is even harder.
Though maybe someone could drop a google survey and have anons type their top 10 for different genres to compile ultimate top 10.

>>52353014
It'd be overwhelmingly biased towards Alt rock and Hip hop.
If you were to split it up into different genres, stuff like bluegrass would get completely ignored because there are about 4 bluegrass fans on /mu/.

>>52353041
I mean, if those bluegrass fans still can give their top 10 that's enough it just mean their pool is smaller so top 10 wouldn't be as accurate as for alt rock and hip-hop. "5/10 with 1000 thousand votes versus 10/10 with 2" type of deal.

>>52352997
Sure, I guess you're right. The only generals we regularly see here are /metal/, /kpop/, /bleep/, /hiphop/, /classical/, and a bunch of ironic shitposting generals. I'd like to see /mu/ tants stop being such plebs and occasionally make room for the odd neofolk or punk general...

>>52352425
Underrated post.

>>52352327
Yes, this is the current /mu/ essentials.

>>52352327
>Kanye West
>Clouddead
>Eminem
>mos def
>assuming jazz rap is going to be abstract or conscious which are totally different things completely (all the hardcore yuo have on there is conscious)
>no electro or other early 80s hip hop
>no ugk

>Don Cherry's Mu as essential free jazz lol

>no black uhuru since it's not first wave
>yet Art Ensemble of Chicago is post bop yet they're second wave and not essential as fuck

>new order's substance even though most of it is watered down pet shop boys; should be PCL or Factus 8

Like I don't have time for this but it shows how retarded mu is and how little they know. I'm not sayiing I know a whole lot, but at least get somebody with some credibility to make this.

>>52352420
>>52352351

this

>>52353250
>it shows how retarded mu is
This thread, you mean?

>waaaaah I don't like how my favorite pop subgenre is represented
>oh, hundreds of years of Renaissance music are represented by ten guys. I guess that makes sense.

>>52352327
>captain beehart
>not the mars volta

Excuse me, what the fuck are you doing?

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>>52353356
Just because it spanned 100s of years, that doesn't mean there was much music.

>>52353356
>implying the renaissance music scene (for lack of a better word) is more complex than the entirety of hip hop

Go suck a dick you idiot

>>52353970
This is what ignorant pop listeners actually believe.

>>52353970
ahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha

no seriously

fucking funny

>>52353970
Nigga u betta slo down, calm yo shiiit get da swag on Beetleshoofen was badass mofo, nigga knos how to hit dem keys man

>>52352663
but its not even that. at least, the african ones are all just performing western genres with a slightly african interpretation.

>>52354101
>afrobeat
>western genre

Afrobeat is a combination of traditional Nigerian and Ghanaian music, jazz, highlife, funk, and chanted vocals,[1] fused with percussion and vocal styles, popularised in Africa in the 1970s.

stupid thread that tries to make /mu/ appear far more cultured than it actually is. a general essentials list from /mu/ should only include pop music and a few critically acclaimed jazz albums post 1960. the rest of these are superfluous

literally palestrina is the only renaissance musician worthy of mention, and hildegard the only medieval. not sure why philip glass isn't mentioned in contemporary classical when nobody except a select few here listen to alfred schnittke or ligeti. just some more pretension i guess