post last tune you listened to and what you ate for breakfast
first for australian psytrance
>what do you find overwhelming about it?
i have like 100 tunes im trying to cram into a 100-minute-or-less arrangement. now some tunes can definitely not make the cut of course but i'm still at this point where i'm putting sketches together in timeline mode, haven't even imported all the tunes yet neither, so like shit how am i ever going to figure out how to narrow it down
still m8, dub techno is not tied to a certain sound, its simply techno music that incorporates some production techniques. But its a vague as fuck genre. (some) Demdike Stare and Basic Channel both produced it and they hardly sound alike. Same goes Deepchord and Basic Channel. Even Basic Channel's other projects that were dub techno didn't sound that much alike
It was a rethorical question. Anon tells me "get x and y" and I said "whats the point of rehashing what other people have done"? Get it now?
ah ok I thought you were having difficulties with the softwatre. When I get overwhelmed I walk away, sometimes for days, then revisit it with a fresh mind
well then later when i'll be trying to mixdown like 3 tunes happening at once im sure i'll put pc through the wall.
lol do you tag your genres like this too?
>les paul rock
>posts the same question three times
>thinks this qualifies as being clever
you're asking me a rethorical question I asked the other guy (or you?) to show him the fallacy of repeating other people's work....
m8 are you alright? I think you should step away from the monitor and get your thoughts in order
can I remix one of ur songs?
I'll do it for free. I just want to get some hype
it's only been posted three times because it hasn't been answered, dumbass. genuinely curious of the answer and not posting it to appear clever
why are you avoiding the question? i'm just genuinely asking it as i've never come across anyone who wants to start making dub techno, so i'm curious
>why are you avoiding the question? i'm just genuinely asking it as i've never come across anyone who wants to start making dub techno, so i'm curious
Ok I'm going to assume you aren't trolling, so I am going to carefully dissect it for you
>I say: "Ima make dub techno"
>Anon says: "you can't unless you do X and Y"
>I retort: "why would I produce dub techno if all I'll be doing is rehashing an old formula"
In case you still don't get it: I am telling him there is no point on doing that in the form of a question
ok and i'm going to carefully dissect it for you since you don't seem to get it
>you say "ima make dub techno"
>i say "why make dub techno if you're just going to rehash an already tried and tested foruma?"
to which i'm implying that it's a pretty closed genre with little room to do anything that hasn't been done loads and loads over the last 20 years. there's little room to do anything new with it so why consciously try to make the same old rehash? why not produce something new? not having a go at you here btw, genuinely curious
>there's little room to do anything new with it so why consciously try to make the same old rehash? why not produce something new?
homie what to you constitutes "doing something new?" could you give an example?
>to which i'm implying that it's a pretty closed genre with little room to do anything that hasn't been done loads and loads over the last 20 years.
You have absolutely no authority to say that, and if that's the mentality you have when (if) you produce music then I feel sorry for you.
>there's little room to do anything new with it so why consciously try to make the same old rehash?
That's exactly what my retort implies. I am going to try not to do the same old rehash.
>why not produce something new? not having a go at you here btw, genuinely curious
Maybe I'll end up with something new. But I have to have a base to start with. And I like dub techno
Also, I disagree with the notion that dub techno has been done to death. Like I said earlier, some producers have done dub techno (Vladislav Delay, Deepchord, Demdike Stare, hell even some of Andy Stott's stuff could be considered dub techno) and yet they sound very little like Basic Channel. That shows you how very little there is to the "sound" when compared to other genres like say, house of dubstep. Not bashing either genre btw, I love them both
Dub techno is one of the genres that has been explored the least. Like I've said before, the problem is their rabid fanbase: the second your production resembles even 0.01% of that of Basic Channels, you are dismissed as a Basic Channel clone.
The only person(s) after Basic Channel that has ever done anything worth mentioning (at least imho) is Deepchord
>The only person(s) after Basic Channel that has ever done anything worth mentioning (at least imho) is Deepchord
PS: worth mentioning as in tried to advance the sound itself. Loads of producers borrow ideas from it
Yes forgot about Fluxion, love his stuff esp. the Chain Reaction releases, I don't dig his last stuff but he should def be included. Not sure if Quantec succeeded at anything other than making bland ambient techno, I don't see any innovation coming from the guys at 1XA even though I like their releases and Andy Stott has some elements from dub techno but he has his own sound going on
These are all opinions and you are welcome to disagree with them, however even if we listed all of them, it shows how little has the sound been explored compared to say, the dozens of house and techno producers out there (that don't produce dub)
anyone have experience with sniffer dogs at nightclubs? are they actually legit or just for show?
at whp in manchester, the dogs are pathetic they do nothing.
just dont go right at the start of the night (when the dog is least bored) and don't be nervous, if they see you acting nervously they'll be more likely to pull you aside and get the dog to sniff you. but i've never seen one actually do anything which resulted in confiscated drugs
is the what.cd interview hard m8s? Also, how much of an hassle is it to keep a balanced ratio? I don't have an extraordinary upload speed here...
lmao don't u have some wasted birds wasting to get fucked u cheesy wanker
EDM is about love, purity, unity
While you go on getting lost in the zone while Hawtin gropes your filthy gf i'm having the time of my life with my pure virgin gf
>“The vast majority of private sector dog providers are not trained to the level that police dogs are. So it’s been difficult finding one to meet the criteria police want.”
Aka Our sniffer dogs will be shit, please still come
Waffles with nutella to get out of bad somehow
For real tho, I miss heavy music. Why is everything right now so weak
Fucking american EDM scene killing everything
Shackleton - Deliverance Series No. 2
oatmeal with apple and cinnamon + toast + almond eggnog
Why don't u just embrace brostep then?
16bit is still going on under different names, hecq, vaetxh, everything on freak etc
srsly drop the misconceptions and you'll probably enjoy a fair bit of it
btw lads what do you all think about this http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/legendary-nightclub-fabric-saved-from-closure--but-sniffer-dogs-will-be-put-on-the-door-9934967.html personally I think they may as well just shut it down if they're going to be this harsh, let the people do their drugs, dance and have a good time
how realistic would it be to hope that one day drugs will be, in reasonable amounts of course, legally available? possibly some kind of well thought out service to observate the use and effects for reasonable payments.
i've never done anything that my close friends haven't grown themselves so i honestly don't need to care but people who overdose are fucking retards
thx for the headsup on new shack
link for anyone too lazy to go to funky:
can't have people dying in your club at a regular rate and expect to carry on. i wonder what this means for houndstooth. i wouldn't be surprised if rob and co pack up and open something new.
darwin in action
also the closest thing to this we have at the moment is free drug testing in the netherlands. I don't think I agree with stuff like MDMA being legal cause of the kiddies, but I do agree with keeping dealers on their toes and not peddling daz
while true, this has nothing to do with the deaths at this club. it's a shit argument for pro-dug legalisation anyway. there's a lot more people dying of alcohol so drugs should be legal? no. drugs should be legalised and regulated because it will further reduce drug related deaths.
bringing this dumbass shit up only cheapens the argument.
nah the interview is easy. it's just knowing the difference between formats and stuff. check the what.cd interview prep website to brush up on it though if you're unsure. the worst thing about the interview is how high and mighty the interviewer is.
it's pretty hard to keep a decent ratio if you've got a bad upload speed but it can be done by filling requests and claiming bounties
>the worst thing about the interview is how high and mighty the interviewer is.
depends on who the interviewer is.
i did the interview for myself and a couple of friends a years back. 3 of the guys were great, personable and gave second chances if u did something wrong (they practically prompted the right answer). one of them, the guy who failed me, was a total dick. i think i misnumbered one of the transcode questions and he just failed me instantly and kicked me.
pussy and black coffee for breakfast
i think call super's album was genuinely great though. he said very clearly that he didn't intend the music for dancefloors. i think it's the only way for a techno artist to really pull off an album - to not actually make a techno album
>EDM is about love, purity, unity
EDM is about the latest David Guetta collaboration with some washed up pop artist, you mongy twat.
this. should be good
looking forward to preditah, deadboy, klose one, mella dee and uncle dugs
hope preditah drops this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxfsCi1Fp0g especially if solo 45 turns up as well
>I disagree with your opinion, therefore UR WRONG
Glad we can have a healthy discussion
Doesn't mean I'm wrong when we're talking about facts. Saying 2014 was boring as far as bleeps go isn't one
The club tho m8
i like the way you think, s/t, but 'Tenshi Ni Fureta Yo' was undeniably the best song of the series
Also have some /bleep/, while we're here
Taylor Swift - "Bleeding Lo-" ...i mean "Blank Space"
Cinnamon apple oatmeal
>I didn't like this year as far as bleeps go
>WHAAAAA UR WRONG WHAAAAA LE WRONGGENERATION GO LISTEN DUB TECHNO
I keep forgetting the majority of people here are 16 yrs old ADD ridden faggots who can't think in a clear way
>no dub that followed techno restrictions were ever any good anyway
In every interview that Moritz has done, every time people asked him what gear was he using or what/how did he get the sounds, he completely avoided to answer it exactly because of that.
And "dub techno" its just about the most vague umbrella term there is as far as sub genres of techno go.
Why aren't you guys listening to the trance event of the year?
Half trolling since I know you guys don't like trance, but there's no where on 4chan to talk about it :3
how can one festival have all that lineup
also, I still listen to my old trance music once in a while
Orange/Crackers with Chocolate Milk.
true but as a sound on its own there is very little resemblance across the board ie if you compare Basic Channel to Deepchord. The few producers who didn't explore their own sound were/are forgotten.
BC and Deepchord both go across a pretty wide range of sound, yet at the same time if you listen to a lot of dub techno there is a definite stereotype in your mind with certain synth patches and liberal tape delay feedback.
> if you listen to a lot of dub techno there is a definite stereotype in your mind with certain synth patches and liberal tape delay feedback.
Oh yes definitely there has to be something in common among them in order to categorize them as X and Y.
But as far as genre goes, IMHO it is the most vague sub-genre there is. One or two production techniques vs, say, house music or even plain techno
They are different songs from diff. producers and they have more in common than their differences.
If you were to try this same approach with dub techno music just watch how fast it takes a bunch of middle aged Berlin autistic to shun you down as a "Basic Channel clone"
yep, that's why it's retarded that this guy thinks he can write dub techno with a cracked copy of ableton and some shitty VSTs
he might write something that could sound somewhat similar, but it's not going to be proper dub techno
>he might write something that could sound somewhat similar, but it's not going to be proper dub techno
>he might write something that could sound somewhat similar,
You again, missing the entire fucking point. Completely. 3 people have already said dub techno is only a few production techniques and here you are HURRR BUT HOW CAN HE MAKE DUB TECHNO IF HES DOESN'T SOUND LIKE X AND Y
When I said I was going to make dub techo I explicitly said I am going to try to find my own sound within the genre. If I am going for that approach, then what fucking use do I have for an Space Echo and a Prophet 6? All I'll be doing is exploring territory already explored
Please keep your whore mouth shut until you learn to comprehension
if dub techno is by definition an approach to production/performance, and you don't have the necessary components, then what you do will not be dub techno, no matter how closely you emulate the sound with VSTs and ableton, sorry. you just don't get it
>tfw Skrillex is coming to town
I've never been to a club, should i go see him?
I want to see some classical concerts but it seriously bothers me that these are more or less social events for old people. I don't even have a fucking suit
>if dub techno is by definition an approach to production/performance, and you don't have the necessary components, then what you do will not be dub techno, no matter how closely you emulate the sound with VSTs and ableton, sorry. you just don't get it
>if dub techno is by definition an approach to production/performance
Ok let me explain it to you like the moron you are
Dub Techno is not a fucking sound but a few techniques that create sounds that sound vaguely the same. Just like you said. Follow me so far?
Said techniques are reverb/delays/echo/chorus/feedbacks, tape or digital. That's about it.
So if by now your faggotry is still contained, please bear with me:
If I said I am going to make dub techno, and I am trying to find my own sound within the fucking genre, then why the fuck do I have to turn into some gearslutz faggot, spend thousands buying vintage gear and try and emulate le god Moritz von Oswald's setup? I am not interested in that shit, it's been done to death.
>b-b-but muh hardware
Dub techno isn't tied to any hardware or software. Delay is fucking delay and there are a million ways you can do it. You can even make reverb/echo without having to use VSTs or tape delays if you have patience and know how to properly place mikes inside an empty place. For fuck sakes I can put 2 tracks on Ableton, move one slightly off time and BAM. fucking delay. Ugly but it's fucking delay
Faggots like yourself are literal cancer. You remind me of that moron in the Red Bull interview with Moritz who kept pestering von Oswald "PLS MR VON TELL ME ABOUT WHAT GEAR WERE YOU USING" even though he avoided the question completely made it fucking clear that there is no point on replicating the results of someone who made the music out of experimentation.
Yes I'm fucking angry
>then why the fuck do I have to turn into some gearslutz faggot,
because it sounds better
what? you literally totally missed my point and then called me a retard. pathetic
you know you need some brains to do dub techno yeah? better start there before you start downloading VSTs lmao
>I've never been to a club, should i go see him?
It will mostly be sweaty dudes making moshpits, might be fun.
You don't actually need to wear formal attire for classical concerts. Just don't dress like an American.
Thematic for sure
mostly muh field recordings for background, couple tape tricks, etc
not as sparse as the coldest season though
mixing dub techno is a bitch
just follow your gut. if it sounds gud, fuck it whether its dub techno or not
4x4 can equate to any even time signature. 2/2, 8/8, 16/16.
As long as it's not bastardized by a snare following the initial kick(s), the 4x4 technoid rhythm is the purest rhythm known to man.
Shit, are we talking about dub techno again
Can I plug that one EP I never released again
Walton, tho he's a bit further in the garage side of things than Burial
that Berlin track is pretty nice. I def enjoy it. The other 2 have nothing interesting for me. Too much compression for my taste, other than that decent production
Do you have soundcloud?
Yeah, but the quality on there is really fluctuating
Interesting to note tho; Berlin is the most recent one, written like three months ago, while the rest is a year and a half old. Thanks for taking the time to check it out.
quoted wrong post apologies fam
Not gonna tell you how to produce your stuff but go easy on the compression m8. Unless that's the sound you're after in which case ignore me
I'm liking this. Good stuff
Gonna throw this out there, I don't really upload songs online anymore but quite often upload small 4bar loops or something
This was my jam
How about just getting the flac
>Huoratron releases album
>turns to shit, stops making good music
>Gesaffelstein releases album
>turns to shit, stops making good music
The albums always have a few good tracks on them, but half is always shit and they pretty much stop being relevant then and there
>there are people on /bleep/ right now who didn't grow up on Eurodance
because of the whole "dance album not for the dancefloor" trend. instead of going forward and making a cohesive collection of tracks with some solid flow to it, they double back on it for some ambient sketches and some moody piano piece as hackneyed attempt at making someone else's definition of 'high art'
the gesafelstein record is laughably bad but come it'll be mandatory listening
>there are people on bleep right now who have never been to a club
>there are people in america right now with a cracked copy of FL
>There are people on /mu/ right now who are too young to remember UKG
Some guy for the past several threads is legitimately deadset on the belief that the only reason people look back on UKG fondly now is because of Burial namedropping it in his interviews and that the genre was never popular before Burial came about.
does this counts?
and the other stuff my the Moritz von Oswald trio. Although its more jazzy electronic than classical
can't lie, I'd "dance" to this if I was wasted at some bare walls shit club while sipping on cheap liquour and my dreadlocks were loose
I do envy the energy this music has, although I find the music itself complete shit. Same with a lot of pseudo-brostep
no, shit like this
like the sort of vaporwave we'll have in 20 years when the kids of today and the /mu/tants of tomorrow start getting nostalgic for when they were in the wombs hearing the vibrations from their parents popping mollys to the zedd remix of tiesto van buuren
I always enjoy listening to these radio sets even though the music isn't that great sometimes (this shit is mediocre Jump Up for a fair bit of it but I still like it).
I've never dug jungle for some reason even though my mindless fun music was old school reggaeton when I was younger