I've never been on /mu/ before. i worry that discussing music will somehow ruin it, i consider myself a music buff. i'm into all the "cool" shit. the "unheard" shit. i'm drunk as fuck. and i fucking love this song. i don't know why. its simplistic, its poppy, its formulaic, theres nothing special about it at all but for some reason it just strikes a cord with me. its so... folksy . and kind of irish (?). there aren't words for how it makes me feel its like the first time i heard the beatles or bob dylan. i know its not a "good" song but... god damn. this is the only place i could admit this and the only place i ever will.
listen to shoegaze
nothings wrong with poppy music or simplistic music
as long as music is built with inspiration and passion then its good, even better if its breaks boundaries (not generic)
I think this song is a great song, catchy straightforward in a good way, emotions shine clearly
uhh /tv/ loves pleb shit. /mu/, on the other hand can actually dish out a decent overall taste. I've never seen /tv/ come to a consensus on anything because it's literally plebs with the occasional patricians popping in to the more serious threads. here, you can find decent music discussion in probably over half of the threads. don't shit on my board just because you want to be a pleb and be accepted, go to reddit if you want to be pandered to.
FUCK i meant to post this to you>>52025997
if your into meal op check out some of these if you want
0 consideration for composer. and proud of it. please don't make music a science. its art. don't do what /lit/ did to books or /tv/ did to movies just fucking consume and absorb man its not about other peoples opinions or science
ok. i want to do some damage control. 1 i'm realllly drunk. 2. this is my first time here
and i just see concerning yourself with the composer as the equivalent to concerning yourself with the director on a film. it doesn't matter who did what as long as the product provided you with something. its art. i'm not asking you to like the shitty song i posted, just please please please start taking music at face value, because thats all it is. it has nothing to do with reputation. and i'm done here, because as i suspected, studying/discussing music will just ruin it. i'd rather be a happy pleb than a cynical patrician
its not. what the film made you feel is more important than who made the film. a director with a shitty track record can make a decent film. i'm done posting though for real this time. I respect that i'm out of my element here and that you guys got your own community here.
>start taking music at face value, because thats all it is
do you even know what you mean by this? do you understand that many of us, and many other music fans, listen to music in a different way than the average person? do you know what being an artist entails? or are you just taking it all for granted? please go try and create something and then tell me that taking it at face value is what music is about
Honestly, this is the worst thread I've ever seen. The level of nuanced shitposting, you must either be a master troll or a fucking oblivious retard
>concerning yourself with the composer as the equivalent to concerning yourself with the director on a film
I think you're taking the concept of death of the author a little too far, and misunderstanding the concept in the first place
>I don't want to know the name of the guy who made Blonde on Blonde. If I was concerned with this, that would somehow imply that the overall quality of music could be determined objectively
That's something we could all agree upon, but that's an entirely separate thought than "It doesn't matter who made a piece of art" and it doesn't follow from anything you've said
it doesn't matter who made it. it stands as its own.go listen to music instead of just liking what /mu/ tells you too. you already do. you have some shitty pop song you fucking love and pretend you don't. even to yourself you change the channel when it comes on the radio or pretend to be oblivious when someone mentions it.
I don't have guilty pleasures, it's a fucking stupid concept. I'm proud of everything I like and I will defend everything I like.
"It doesn't matter who made it" is an entirely separate thought from "it stands on it's own". Of course music stands on it's own. When I listen to a record, it has my full attention. I'm not thinking of anything other than the music most of the time. But how does the artist not mattering follow from that? If I greatly enjoy Blonde on Blonde, it's reasonable to say I enjoy the work of Bob Dylan, and maybe I will enjoy Highway 61 for example. That isn't being told what to like, it's respecting the creator of a piece of art that you do in fact enjoy at face value.
You're making a lot of baseless assumptions that I would love to see you attempt to back up in your next post
I think you're trying to say to not use music as an accessory or something to that effect?
You don't need to be sorry, friend, just try and gain some self-awareness. Just because you aren't able to articulate your opinions on music doesn't mean others aren't able to and that they can't enjoy doing it
>you aren't able to articulate your opinions on music doesn't mean others aren't able to and that they can't enjoy doing it
thats not the point at all. it doesn't need articulation, its art. it's about emotion.