All memes aside, is there any act in hip-hop right now that is more original/experimental than Death Grips? I ask because I legitimately want to know, if there are hip-hop albums more cutting-edge than NLDW or NOTM I want to hear them. The only thing that comes to mind are clipping. and maybe Busdriver but even they are very poppy compared to Death Grips.
I've heard both of Shabazz Palaces albums, Black Up was okay but Lese Majesty was garbage. I don't like cLOUDEAD and I hate MF Doom, I don't see how Doom could be experimental other than "lol I rap about geeky shit like comic books".
Saul Williams is okay I guess. Haven't heard of Subtle.
Well I never seen how MF DOOM is experimental but I guess its how he raps his production and the production of others he raps over and maybe his lyrics. Not saying his comic book theme is experimental and also it's not like he just raps about geek stuff its more of a light theme.
You're right, but Death Grips is more experimental than everything mentioned so far except maybe Dalek (and that's only if you count the mediocre collab they did with Faust).
Maybe I should have clarified that I wanted experimental AND good.
I just want to know what's out there that /mu/ doesn't talk about every day.
Christ, do you even listen to experimental hip-hop?
Imagine Yourself In A Free And Natural World, From Filthy Tongue Of Gods And Griots, Nausea, Absence, Belly. Not only are these albums all more experimental than Death Grips (who, reminder, still stick closely to verse-chorus-verse structure, have to resort to catchy hooks, and still aren't as aggressive as B L A C K I E), and most of them PREDATE Death Grips.
Damn dude, you should have mentioned Spiral Walls Containing Autumns of Light. Prehistoric-Death Grips for sure.
Not very experimental but sort of has that raw power sound that Death Grips has
>Imagine Yourself In A Free And Natural World
Mah nigga, that's actually one of my favorite albums this year, although it goes so far beyond the common bounds of hip-hop I'm not even sure it could be called hip-hop. It's more like noise/drone.
I think it should be considered hip-hop, if only because the genre is only going to become more stagnant and boring if we consider everything that tries something completely new with it a different genre.
dude he sounds like a whiny little bitch
Shits terrible reminds me of fucking acid rap
>these niggas aint even heard of New Kingdom
Yeah its aggresive but theres no power behind it at all
look at him he just looks awkward and almost teenage in the way he acts and dresses
whereas death grips seem to live their music just compare MC Ride and Blackie
>there's no power behind it at all
What are you talking about? You can hear the pure hatred and bitterness in his voice on Hometown Blues where he's talking about his personal life and the struggles he's had coming up through it all. When he talks about the fact that he just discovered he might have autism on Selfishness of Evil Men, he's almost on the verge of tears. There's LOTS of power behind it, linking to a video of a single live performance isn't going to change that. Go look at the Death Grips boiler room performance and tell me that MC Ride's off-beat screaming wouldn't get laughed at the same way if they weren't already powerful.
B L A C K I E lives the music more than MC Ride. He's constantly trying to break new ground, with the kind of insane noise that the subgenre prides itself on. Compare Imagine Yourself and Death Grips albums, it's straight-up adventurous drone rap vs. hip-hop that resorts back to traditional structures and repetitious hooks at every opportunity.
Death Grips is a stripped down, safe version of B L A C K I E's sound supplemented with easy-on-the-ears hooks and a lack of noise.
I mentioned Belly back here
FFA was legendary. Vulture's lyrics aren't incredible (Why is everything "Like" this? That's a lame way to compose verses) but his high-pitched voice is awesome for some punky hip-hop. Scavengers is one of the best in the genre.
no dudes dead serious
Literally the most edgy rapper out there
at least you know MC Ride has lived a lot of the shit he talks about but BLACKIE sounds like he had a bad day at school or some shit
The fact that so many plebs still name Death Grips "the greatest or most experimental or most original" hip hop group ever only tells you how far hip hop music still is from becoming a serious art. Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all times are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Classical critics rank the highly controversial Beethoven over classical musicians who were highly popular in courts around Europe. Hip hop critics are still blinded by commercial success: Death Grips yelled more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the most experimental.
Particularly their collaborative album this year with Nadja, Cystema Solari. It's drone rap.