ITT: Post a genre you don't like or understand, and other people recommend you stuff to get into that genre.
It bugs me because I like the concept behind it (I think? maybe I misunderstood the whole thing) but I heard some stuff and it was pretty lame even by J-pop standards.
I'm into indie, rock, hip-hop, electronic and alternative, including:
Kanye West, The Flaming Lips, Pink Floyd, Aphex Twin, Peter Bjorn and John, Grateful Dead, The Shins, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Radiohead, Beck, Gorillaz, Talking Heads, Danny Brown, Toro y Moi, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, Weezer, The Raconteurs, Reptar, Boards of Canada, Snoop Dogg, M83, Death Grips, Animal Collective, Coldplay, Stepdad, Tyler, the Creator, MGMT, The Smashing Pumpkins, The White Stripes, Simon & Garfunkel, Drake, Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti, Insan3lik3, The Caretaker, Third Eye Blind, Neon Indian, TheFatRat vs Daft Punk, Alex Cannan, Macintosh Plus, Bassnectar, Vince Guaraldi Trio, Madeon, Kenji Yamamoto, Kouichi Kyuma, A$AP Rocky, Rage Against the Machine, 山本健誌, Imagine Dragons, John Frusciante, Cake, Ween.
Check out my music taste: http://www.last.fm/user/almyndz
hopefully this helps
Try Wire - Chairs Missing, Television - Marquee Moon, and Minutemen - Double Nickels on the Dime.
Though like that other anon said, it's pretty diverse. Some stuff sounds pretty similar to straightforward punk while there's all kinds of avant garde shit.
oh boy, i honestly haven't listened to much of that...
if you're a soft bulletin fan, check out disintegration. they're both highly accessible, long concept albums with very compelling instrumental timbre and feels everywhere. if you're into their early noise pop stuff, you should try Psychocandy.
they're technically post punk as well. check out XTC, Oingo Boingo and Devo
>Toro y Moi/Neon Indian
synthpop might be up your alley. check out OMD's architecture and morality
Gang of Four? post-punk, but just as funky as rhcp's 90s stuff
any metal that isn't sludge or stoner
i was slowly working through black metal when i realised that i didn't like metal very much
i mean what albums for you guys got you into it?
i mean i like sabbath and sludgy shit but i could never quite get into thrash, or iron maiden type stuff or typical metal stuff
I can't appreciate samples being used in an uncreative way or the obvious commercialism ("This song has a famous chorus, I'll just copy and paste that into my song so I will be famous!")
I can't appreciate the low brow/cliche themes ("bitches and hoes", "muh money", "muh dick", "muh nigga", "cracka keep me down", "rapper x isn't as good as me")
I can't appreciate the simple, underdeveloped musical ideas or the lack of change in structure/dynamics/color etc. (2 bar melody in 4/4, verse/chorus, repeat ad infinitum, no change!)
Unknown Pleasures has a very gloomy atmosphere to it. Try Remain in Light by Talking Heads, Substance by New Order, Pink Flag by Wire or The Modern Dance by Père Ubu.
This chart is pretty accurate IMO.
What's your musical background? Personally I think understanding hardcore punk/beatdown and death metal would be useful if you're looking to get into grind. I also was interested in the culture behind the development of punk in general and it helped me understand why someone would make such aggressive music.
Napalm Death is always a good place to start, though maybe a more obvious choice since they're often credited with being one of the first true grindcore bands. Here it's easiest to see how hardcore elements and death metal elements are fuzed together, though again it helps to have a background in heavy music already.
For me, "Magrudergrind," by Magrudergrind, was the first entire grindcore album I listened to. Pig Destroyer and Discordance axis are also personal favorite artists.
I hope this helps, I don't know if any of that will actually but it's how I got somewhat into the genre.
>okay what the fuck can someone define post punk for me
originally it was everything that evolved from punk in the late 70s--joy division, bauhaus, suicide, talking heads, pere ubu, etc. but once 1980 hit, it got really fucking complicated...
>Post-punk is a rock music genre that paralleled and emerged from the initial punk rock explosion of the late 1970s. The genre is an artsier and more experimental form of punk. Post-punk laid the groundwork for alternative rock by broadening the range of punk and underground music, incorporating elements of krautrock (particularly the use of synthesizers and extensive repetition), dub music, American funk and studio experimentation into the genre. It was the focus of the 1980s alternative music/independent scene, and led to the development of genres such as gothic rock and industrial music.
I didn't do it, and it has some stuff I wouldn't put in a shoegaze chart. Like nugaze or japanese shoegaze revival.
This Will Destroy You's "Young Mountain" EP helped get me into post-rock because it contains many of post-rock's key elements while keeping the songs pretty short. Some clarification might help if the length isn't your issue though
Thanks anons, you've been very helpful. I think I'm going to not worry about getting in post-punk in general, I think I'm going to refer to this chart >>51817885 and try out some no wave
Only two black metal albums i've listened to and have enjoyed are Echoes of Battle and [spoiler] Sunbather [/spoiler] (if that even counts as black metal kek)
>Echoes of Battle
Man, I love that album. You might try Gallowbraid, Saor or that new Blut Aus Nord if you haven't. Obviously they're different from Caladan Brood, but down the same vein and you might dig them.
I'm into indie, rock, hip-hop, electronic and alternative, including:
Radiohead, Boards of Canada, Aphex Twin, The Flaming Lips, Toro y Moi, Pink Floyd, Kanye West, Snoop Dogg, Animal Collective, Alex Cannan, Death Grips, Vince Guaraldi Trio, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Grateful Dead, Weezer, M83, The Smashing Pumpkins, The White Stripes, The Raconteurs, Beck, The Microphones, Macintosh Plus, David Bowie, Bassnectar, Kendrick Lamar, Neon Indian, Vampire Weekend, Flying Lotus, Cake, Rage Against the Machine, Gorillaz, Drake, Coldplay, Alydian, A$AP Rocky, Ween, Tyler, the Creator, Frank Ocean, Led Zeppelin, Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti, Michael Cera, Simon & Garfunkel, Fishmans, The Shins, The Caretaker, Oneohtrix Point Never, Quincy Jones, Ariel Pink, Talking Heads, The Antlers.
thanks anon you've changed my life
Try the band Alcest if you liked Sunbather.
Deafheaven is definitely a black metal band, blackgaze if you want to be technical. Their first album, Roads to Judah, is pretty great.
Their new song "From the Kettle Onto the Coil" shreds and is a lot more black metal-y.
Try Burzum - Filososfem and Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas.
For "blackgaze" (like some Sunbather) I recommend french bands such as Amesoeurs (s/t) and Les Discrets (Septembre et ses Dernières Pensées).
I feel ya
I know there are looooots of different kinds of metal and all but I'm really clueless when it comes to it and I really want to get into it to expose myself to all genres including metal.
I really can't think of any metal artists related to the music you're used to. Try the Paranoid route or some "hipster metal" stuff like Sunbather or anything from this chart.
Start with the Money Store. Its there most well known and solid mucore
then go the exmilitary. its a little more abrasive than the money store and more experimental but still solid
after this everything gets a loooot more abrasive
Government plates is pretty good
then go Niggas on the Moon
ignore his order its tms nldw exmil notm gov plates
i assume uve already tried their stuff, but all their albums sound pretty different and theyre definitely an acquired taste. id say try a bit of all of it
I've seen Footage
Known For It
Billy Not Really
These are just some of my favorites and I think they highlight a different DG songwriting style in each track
Shoegaze. but unlike the chart that was posted in this thread, I can't get into the dream pop side of shoegaze. I like Have A Nice Life and Angelic Process (AP are a little too "metal" though) but can't get into the Slowdive type bands. Can anyone rec more like the former mentioned bands?
It's just music man, don't be ashamed.
Unless you want to impress the elitist assholes on /mu/ it's all good.
Also I've never even listened to Tyler, so I'll give it a shot. Where should I start?
Contact Lens - Mediafire Kingdom
KUKL - The Eye
Pell - Floating While Dreaming
Try something by La Roux
Try something by IDYLLS
Galaxie 500 - On Fire
Talk Talk - Spirit Of Eden
Snowing - Fuck Your Emotional Bullshit
nothing on value in this genre
Five Star Hotel is more accessible you might like
they are not post rock they are post hardcore
Start with ExMil go from there
Datsik and Rogue is pretty good
Reverend Horton Heat
Galaxie 500 or
XO - Heart
Great! thanks anon.
Oh, and, for what is worth, I'm mostly into indie rock, alternative, post-punk, shoegaze, some electronic, including:
White Lung, Shellac, Marilyn Manson, Male Bonding, Wipers, Milk Music, The Men, The Replacements, Boards of Canada, Death From Above 1979, Deerhunter, anything Jack White related, Rage Against The Machine, Mötorhead, Lotus Plaza, My Bloody Valentine, Perfect Pussy, Deftones, Iceage.
Electronic music is an extremely broad genre. As such it's hard to find something that will just work immediately for you. Regardless I will recommend my favorite albums that are considered electronic:
The Ape Of Naples - Coil
Selected Ambient Works 85-92 - Aphex Twin
Kid A - Radiohead
Harmony In Ultraviolet - Tim Hecker
Crying Over Pros For No Reason - ediT
Thanks, will check these out
What are you implying with this?
electronic is so much different at concerts than it is in recording, artists tend to be able to show off much more
anyways Boards of Canada, Diplo, Flosstradamus, TNGHT, Gui Boratto
Listen to all 3 albums. Bastard, Goblin, Wolf.
There's a whole storyline Tyler has going on that's kinda intriguing.
Goblin is easily the weakest, I don't really like it. Still, give it a try.
Algernon Cadwallader - some kind of cadwallader
The Brave Little Abacus - Just got back from the discomfort
Tawny Peaks - Tawny Peaks (you can find these guys on bandcamp)
Empire! Empire! (I was a lonely estate) - what it takes to move forward
The Chameleons - Script Of The Bridge. Top tier post-punk.
Slowdive, Pale Saints
Mogwai, Lights Out Asia/Aurore Rien, Bitcrush
I need whatever the fuck Seefeel and Bowery Electric is. I haven't found anything as satisfying.
rock with strange time signatures. True math fans will probably get mad for me posting TTNG, but they use strange time signatures and they're fantastic. A lot of emo influence though.
Big Black is more punkish type of noise rock. Neptune is one I like a lot but don't really see talked about much. They don't really have the punk vibe of Big Black. Noise rock is essentially just rock/punk with noise influences like feedback, atonality, etc. There's a chart floating around somewhere that has some cool bands on it.
great example if you are serious about wanting to listen to math rock. Most math rock doesn't have vocals, and focuses more on the atmosphere of the music. very technical in time signatures and riffs. The drumming is also a key part of math rock.
it's 50,000 in a field jumping around to a simon says toy
convince me otherwise
I actually forgot I saved a bunch of them. I have three noise rock charts. They all overlap to some extent though.
I think stuff like Lights and You All Look the Same to Me have transcend beyond what Trip-hop could bring you. Holy shit Lights though, if you haven't heard anything else of theirs that's trippy don't jump straight into it but that's a track that just builds and builds onto itself like x=1 on a calculator until it reaches a plateau and the lyrics come in, and then it's all downhill, with maybe one time the song slows you down. Not a song i'd recommend on drugs.
How can you not like Sufjan's voice? Indie rock is such a broad genre though that I'm sure you can find something with all kinds of different vocal styles. I wouldn't even know where to begin recommending stuff though.
Exactly what I was looking for, thank you!
it's not even out yet moron
Daughters (self titled)
Pretty cliche and light, but Burzum is what got me into Black Metal.