Do you guys still think there is practically no difference in the sound between analog and digital/software synths?
Pic related, i just got one recently
If yr using replications what's the difference
what electronic artists do you know that still use analog anyway? I know syro did and it sounded really dated
not trying to be a dick, just curious.
I cant literally find a reason to use analog. it makes production very slow and tedious.
Unless you're wiling to spend thousands of bucks on vintage synths dont even try.
Of course it might be fun to use an analog bass here and there but you shouldnt really make everything analog, it will sound dated and a bit cheesy now
For example a programmed drums in an analog drum computer wont have the same feel as something you put together in a DAW where you can actually put any notes at any length and any position with any velocity. Drum computers were a compromise, not something people really wanted.
>analog sounds more cheesy than software
What are you smoking?
People blow thousands of dollars on analog hardware so it doesnt sound cheesy. Sure, you can copy and paste an oscillator or filter or whatever in software many times to get a more complicated sound rather than having to buy each component and physically put it together but its still a lifeless, shallow emulation of the real thing.
And having a drum machine is infinitely better than a sample pack of a drum machine, and no one uses software to synthesize drums
I have one those it's fucking sweet. Took me forever to figure out how to hook it up to ableton though... I ended up running the output into my headphone jack on my laptop as an input so now I can sample those lush synth textures
I actually did a comparison with oscilloscope between my Arturia Microbrute's waves and Ableton Live's Operator. Will post 2 and more if you guys want.
This wave is the Operator's SquareD.
This is the Microbrute's square, pulse width knob at 0 and volume of square at 12 o'clock.
When you raise the mixer knob of a wave on the MB over 12 o'clock, it starts to drive the filter.
I mean yeah people do, but drums need to kick and software lacks the warmth and richness of analog to give it that
it may just be the filters that make the difference for all i know, but it is a huge difference
Wow, it sure is clueless in here.
The analog/digital debate is bullshit. Both have there advantages. Neither is outright better than the other and it's not a competition anyway.
All this crap just distracts away from what makes good music and that's good ideas.
>having a drum machine is infinitely better than a sample pack of a drum machine
I have cc. 90000 different kicks and snares and whatever in dozens or hundreds of sample packs. I also have a dozen VST's capable of drum synthesis like KICK or Chromaphone. Not to mention the thousand ways I can use effects and mixing stuff on them.
I'm sure your drum machine with a couple of dozen of samples and limited sequencing can really win against that
A 909 or 808 drum machine will always sound dated, and thats part of their appeal now. If the 909 would come out today no one would buy it
Operator's filter is open all the way, reso at 1, Low-Pass SVF. The default.
Microbrute's filter is open all the way in low-pass mode, resonance at 0.
This is Operator's SawD.
What people attribute to "analog sound" had way more to do with how they mixed them anyway. Vintage compressors/limiters or the SSL console which gave it that "warm" sound.
Also tape distortion, tube distortion etc.
So I should only use a paper and a piano then?
But some of the most successful composers didnt have a piano either
At least try to stick to the topic
Just because someone is successful doesnt mean what they producer doesnt sound bad or shit.
Maybe then you shouldnt discuss music then
you realize that any kind of note (well actually not any, some) can be played on a piano but people choose other instruments because they sound better or different?
>only one instrument should exist
I cant fathom how retarded your post is
>missing the point that much
Good compositions don't NEED any effects or special sounds.
Replace piano with pure sine waves if you prefer that. The point is to remove all smoke and mirrors to see if it the actual composition is good.
Ah ok yeah cool. I was thinking of getting an used Moog somewhere or a new Minitaur. I bought a MicroBrute but I just don't like the sound of it. I really do like the sound of analog and using guitar pedals for effects, idk I guess I'm a dadrocker according to some here.
again, what the fuck does that mean?
You realize that excitement often come from how something sounds, not what kind of frequency it represents on a piano? Where you can only use the chromatic scale anyway?
And that different instruments exist because they all have different harmonics?
Also how the fuck do you use the piano for drums huh?
You completely missed the point, but not my post, but cc the last 100 years of music development
Different instruments and harmonics are just smoke and mirrors. Drums are debatable. If anything they should be tested with the most simple sounds as well, to see if the rhythm itself actually holds up.
Then do that
Whats your point? That I shouldnt use nothing but a piano to please some autist?
Bang to rocks together and call it music then
Get the fuck off 4chan and make some music if you're so sure of what makes it good. Use a piano, an analog synth, a pen, your voice, a computer, a digital drum machine, a violin, whatever. If it's good, it's good.
And while I love music based around structure, harmony & melody the guy saying all good music can be written on a piano is full of shit. There's plenty of great stuff out there that relies far more on timbre/sound design than any notion of scale.
Is there an oscilloscope for android that I could use with OTG USB and a synth?
Well you're straight up wrong and this is coming from someone who regards JS Bach as the probably the greatest.
A solo that might sound a bit boring on piano might sound great on a woodwind/brass/stringed instrument because of the added expression that the player can put in.
A note with a slow attack is different from a note with a fast attack, it makes you feel differently.
The spectral make up of sounds are massively important. People thought sine waves were going to be the way forward in the early days of electronic music, that it'd be pure music but they soon realised that it lacks so much.
>I mean yeah people do, but drums need to kick and software lacks the warmth and richness of analog to give it that
Most people mistake Scott hulls drums in Pig Destroyer for real drums they're that well programmed. I did at first until I read it was all drum machine/programmed.