Looking for 2014 EP recommendations
These are all the best ones I've found so far
Post your favorites if you can too
Godflesh - Decline And Fall
Perfect Pussy - Say Yes to Love
Gas Rag - Beats Off
Gridlink - Longhenna
Container - Adhesive
Donovan Wolfington - Scary Stories You Tell In The Dark
Fennec - Beloved
All of those are generally good, though some are better than otehrs
For me though, the EPOTY has been locked up by Priests - Bodies and Control and Money and Power. Nothing else has even come close yet.
do you guys seriously not know how to crop an image
Here you go lazy fucks
The Baddest Beams - Box Tops for Humiliation
Baths - Ocean Death
Fiendsh - Al Capone
Hell and Mizmor - Hell ::: Mizmor
Man Bites Dog - Man Bites Dog
Oneohtrix Point Never - Commissions I
Pearl White - Pearl White EP
Patch Kit - I Think I'm Going to Throw Up
Isaiah Rashad - Cilvia Demo
While I'm pleased you have a system that seems to work for you, I've always found it easiest to base my determination as to whether a collection of songs is an EP or something else to be whether it is released as an EP or not. As of yet, I've never found a situation where this admittedly simplistic method has failed me.
I dont think the entire concept lends itself to "failing anyone" except making things unfairly balanced when comparing albums particularly regarding a percentage of quality. its a lot easier to make a 20 minute album at 100% quality than a 40 minute one. so if both are being compared simply in a category of lp then thats not really fair.
I disagree. Even if I accept the idea that it is easier to make a nearly perfect 20 minute album than a 40 minute one (which seems reasonable, though I'd argue the variance in difficulty between the two is far less than you seem to think) the fact that both may be categorized as an LP does not effect a comparison. I'd be more impressed by a 10/10 40 minute album than a 20 minute one (although not by much honestly) because of the extended nature of the album. The fact that they are both labeled as LP does not and should not effect this comparison, as ultimately it is a label of very limited meaning in regards to the quality of the contents of a collection of songs.
so again how are you saying an ep is defined? you're saying that an ep is defined by how many songs it has?
I'm basing it solely on length determined by what I've found to be the average lengths and also I think classic examples e.g. polvo - new dark age ep 25:45
Whether or not a collection of songs is an EP is determined solely based on whether or not it was released as an EP. Bands and labels are remarkably good about labeling their releases. Clearly, length is the most critical factor in making this decision, but it is hardly the sole variable. For instance, Sufjan Stephen's All Delighted People EP clocks in a nearly an hour, which is lengthy by any standards. However, it was explicitly released as an EP rather than and LP, and this fact supersedes any squabbling about length.
Moreover, the fact that it (or anything else) is an EP rather than an LP does not matter in any way whatsoever in regards to their quality. They are merely imperfect labels the intersect various releases. The reason that there is so much disagreement about what constitutes an EP (as opposed to an LP) is simply that there is no concrete aspect that divides the two.
so gas rag is an lp
thats only ten minutes
well to each their own but no fucking way is it an lp when its shorter than the length of even the average ep. not to mention the songs arent even all that short but whoa holy shit its hardcore punk look out this changes everything.
I still don't understand why this bothers you so much. Does it really matter that much whether a release is labeled as an EP or an LP. How does that effect your enjoyment of the music on it?
Yes, in this thread, you are limited to talking about released categorized as EP's. So talk about things that are categorized as EP's. The fact that this is a largely arbitrary label doesn't matter, and outside the confines of this thread, whether something is an EP or LP really has no impact on its quality.