lets do this
>been browsing /mu/ one day
>get into a /bleep/ thread
>read it backwards
just checked and it literally got posted just now lol
i think this is the first rip i've seen... sure ur not thinking of
I'm doing a demo for my uni's radio with a mate on Sunday. We're doing a techno show. They want you to be good at talking and presenting as well as just mixing bangers, so we were thinking of doing a "track spotlight" type feature where we talk about a specific new track we like before playing it in full, and maybe doing a weekly free track mention, as well as promoting local DJs and nights. Anyone got any other suggestions?
i just don't like how insy and centralised it gets
you can't post a single club track in any other thread now without being told to go to /bleep/
it wouldn't surprise me if i found out that someone like p4k created /bleep/, as a way to deal with the massive wave of interest in dance music which they haven't got a clue about
These threads and the insurgence of things like /soulfunkr&b/ and /acidfunkgroovejazz/ etc are because a thread about the majority of artists mentioned in those threads would 404 in a sea of shitposting, hurr Jenny Death When, >muh Kanye, [meme]genre is shit, tapmusic and last.fm spamming, where do I start with [popular artist with 3 albums] and what do you think of [insert chart topping band], 20 different rappers, arguments about whether electronic and rap is a genre etc, etc, etc same old absolute utter dogshit bollocks for /mu/drone, Twatano watching, P4k dick sucking dumb ignorant children.
well weve contained ourselves for the greater good
do you really want more people like the guy asking for burial clones to come here
>see how separate jungle threads do happen sometimes and they get +100 responses
thats cos we samefag them to bump them, only other people who come in are the ones asking whats jungle lol
i dunno i think i'd prefer it if the rockist pleb mafia didn't have the rest of the board locked down, considering how many people here actually like dance music, it seems a bit shit that they have to come in here and then get bullied for not knowing every single uk reference point or whatever
kicking people out for showing an interest in dance music, when it's the only thread they can ask about it, i don't know if i like that really
You could always start a thread on the board and talk about Daft Punk, Justice, Aphex Twin and Burial if you want, only albums ofc and only these with an 8/10 or above by both Pitchfork and Fantano, oh and call it all electronica as actual genres confuse them.
their interest is begging for charts and recs
i mean theres plenty of linkspam and shit in the threads they could at least play a few and see if they like them then look up the artist and the genres but thats too much work for them
the "rockist pleb mafia" is consisted of trolls and genuine /b/tards who came to /mu/ a week (or even an hour) ago who think that all dance music is EDM and big room hence they shit on it
an isolated general like this is the best option left for us because it's the way this shitty website operates, thanks a lot moot
God forbid you aren't told who to listen to, what albums by them and who they sound like. How ever could you discover music otherwise if its not been preapproved with a chart by some kid on 4chan?
I'm not arguing the qualities of said artists, just /mu/ in general can't stop circlejerking around the same 5 artists in any genre because they got the music from here/p4k/Twatano and its 'patrician' approved.
also u guys dont realize that this has happened
the nudes shit drew in a lot of people and eventually they get tired of /b/ and start wandering
yeah fully agree, i just think it might be more positive to let more of the good stuff drift out there
anyway some good points being made all round, sorry for being such a boring old cunt
/b/ is a shit hole but everyone starts there so im sure theres a general influx of new people to all boards rn
might not be as easy to spot just cause of how shit mu has become so it seems normal
>posting on /mu/
>implying /bleep/ is part of /mu/ or 4chan
I'm fairly new to electronic music in general and the lads have taught me a lot in these bleep threads and I've never been bullied, they've usually given me very helpful info and been very patient. Shit, first time I came here I was one of those "begging for Burial clones" and now I can at least identify most genres and I know a bunch of labels
post beautiful techno
Wow, just wow.
terekkes never gonna drop that LP is he
i feel like if he did an album an did it properly it could be an instant classic
lol christ, this is all unbearably awkward
what was the gig you were at?
it was only a matter of time before a bleep meetup but i figured those of us on here that are willing to leave the house and go to clubs and take drugs etc. aren't going to be that awkward in real life. how did you manage to find the weirdest outgoing guy on here lol
what did you guys talk about after he approached you at the bar?
yeah he's never gonna do it
would be goat if he did though
why's he so good though, i don't get what it is about his tunes that gives them that special touch (hopefully not just hype )
Pangaea in Leeds
It wasn't a planned meet up or anything I just posted to see if anyone else was going
He just made small talk for about 30 seconds and then looked sheepish when I asked him who he was with lel
I am so fucking jealous of britbongs and people who live in big US cities. The only recognize electronic act in my entire state this month is the fucking Glitch Mob, who aren't /bleep/ at all
>"Inspired by intense rhythms and rolling grooves he likes to combine old school with contemporary sound. Driven forward by enthusiasm he is in a constant search of rare tracks and unknown gems."
What a tool.
I am in Wisconsin. Which means I could go to some of the Chicago clubs. Lone was at a club in Chicago a couple of months I ago but I was broke at the time.
Yeah I just forgot about Berghain and other mainland venues.
nice - i only know dario zenker through his release on the trilogy tapes. i'll check out him & his brother's work
here's a good one from the trilogy tapes if you're not already familiar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTKrQ6CPPM0
I will have to check those tapes out. I enjoyed the Naples tracks on Brothers and Sisters.
I love the whole dusty house sound thing that seems popular now. Here is another track that has that sound that I like. https://soundcloud.com/meditations/d-tiffany-tranq-moon-from-st-cassette
yea i kno he is hilarious
everything he says is hilarious
hes such a weird motherfucker hes the type of guy you always thought would end up murdering their family at school. i love him tho
Thanks again to whoever posted this yesterday. I saw it on FACT but specifically ignored it because they used the phrase 'london rapper' and I figured it was going to be some shit UK Hip-Hop type thing. Some of it kind of went that way but the Grimier tracks went in.
Listening to Distal's album now, it's alright.
what when did this happen
yea of course hes based. its impossible not to like him he is an absolute legend. i rate him because hes awkward as fuck but hes still sucessful so that gives me hope
What's /bleep/ all about? electronic?
The reason IDM is not allowed in these threads is because it would turn into an Aphex Twin/Boards of Canada/Warp General circlejerk like the rest of /mu/.
EDM isn't allowed because it's a highly popularized watered down type of dance music that shows little respect for or aknowledgement of dance music history and only serves to be the soundtrack of frat bros getting drunk and "popping mollies".
Haha, wow, okay...(!) I guess I'm not working class English enough for these so-called "threads". Maybe I would understand 'English Techno' better if I was part of the un-educated proletariat from whence it came but maybe not for I think it's just too repetitive to withstand any focused or repeated listens...(!)
Yes, I agree in part but at the same time non of the music brought up in conversation in these "threads" (Haha...!) would likely exist were it not for electronic dance music pioneers such as Boards of Canada and Aphex twin.
>BoC and AFX invented Techno, House and Breaks
Dude your trolling technique sucks
different guy but they were arguably the first to bring, err "new age" elements into dance music
also interesting description of their live sets from before the release of MHTRTC, taken from the IDM mailing list (had to find it via the twoism forum)
>From: M.A.J. Huffman ( [EMAIL REMOVED] )
>Date: Nov 4, 1997
>Subject: (idm) Blech last Friday
>[ -- snip -- ]
At around 11.15 Boards appeared to perform a half-hour set. They had three TVs showing their own cut-up style material. This was okay but I've seen so many of those things that it didn't really make any impression. However, the music: firstly, I should point out that there was nothing from Hi-Scores. There were 3/4 main songs with a few fills inbetween. I recognised one of the fills and one of the songs. No radical departures from what you will have heard but the beats were a little more incisive timbrally. Lots of nice pad sounds as you'd expect. Not a set you could really let go to, but that's not necessarily a criticism. I don't think their music will ever drive a crowd wild. It was the same when I saw them in Manchester earlier this year. Shame the set was so short though.
As far as my research can goes I know that to be true... fortunately it was created by ostracised minorities and it soon died out and moved to England where it was totally re-vamped and re-vitalised by Aphex Twin and Boards of Canada (and to some extent, Autechre). Unfortunately it has been a slippery slope back into the mundane and the repetitive with only a few worthwhile names in the last 20 years or so (i.e. Venetian Snares and The Flashbulb).
I would like for you to prove to me how the founders of "Ambient Techno" are not electronic dance music pioneers, haha...(!)
Boards of Canada certainly paved the way for Techno having re-vamped the degenerate Ghetto music of the US in the 1980s. Aphex Twin obviously pioneers Broken-Beat music... I shouldn't have to tell you that, haha...(!)
My good man! Thank you for providing the necessary evidence to educate these people! If more people were like you and I... then these "threads" (and indeed, the rest of The World, no less!) might be somewhat bearable, haha...(!)
>and to some extent, Autechre
>to some extent
lol they literally started out as an electro/b-boy band what are you saying
>Venetian Snares and The Flashbulb
people like those are exactly the reason no one takes IDM seriously anymore (especially the latter guy, fuck that talentless hack)
>Boards of Canada certainly paved the way for Techno having re-vamped the degenerate Ghetto music of the US in the 1980s
>Aphex Twin obviously pioneers Broken-Beat music
who is Meat Beat Manifesto
who are the plenty other jungle and breakbeat hardcore artists that didn't get much of a name for themselves due to relying on singles and EP's instead of the album format
mate please stop embarrassing yourself
>fortunately it was created by ostracised minorities and it soon died out and moved to England where it was totally re-vamped and re-vitalised by Aphex Twin and Boards of Canada (and to some extent, Autechre). Unfortunately it has been a slippery slope back into the mundane and the repetitive with only a few worthwhile names in the last 20 years or so (i.e. Venetian Snares and The Flashbulb).
That's wrong though. What have been reading? "The History of Electronic Music According to Warp Records" or some bullshit?
>Boards of Canada certainly paved the way for Techno having re-vamped the degenerate Ghetto music of the US in the 1980s.
>Aphex Twin obviously pioneers Broken-Beat music
Dude, you can't be serious
even warp can't be this ignorant considering the /bleep/ classics that they hosted during the late 80s and very early 90s
my bet is the guy is some redditor who's fresh to electronic music (alternatively an epic trole)
first breakbeat hardcore track, recorded in 1989 and released in 1990
fortunately it was created by ostracised minorities and it soon died out and moved to England where it was totally re-vamped and re-vitalised by Aphex Twin and Boards of Canada (and to some extent, Autechre)
>this break is faster
>this break is slower
>this break is jazzier
>this break is bassier
Techno and other genres have this too but holy shit they keep it simple. Otherwise we'd be flooded with bullshit genres like jazz techno and funk house.
Fuck breakstards so fucking much.
>Broken beat is a music genre that can be characterized by syncopated rhythm typically in 4/4 meter, with staggered or punctuated snare beats and/or hand claps.
>Breakbeat hardcore is a derivative of acid house and techno music, of the late 1980s and early 1990s, that combines four-on-the-floor rhythms with breakbeats.
>Drum and bass is characterized by fast breakbeats (typically between 160–180 beats per minute) with heavy bass and sub-bass lines. The "bass line" is usually done with sampled sources or synthesizers.
>Nu skool breaks is a sub-genre of breakbeat. The style is usually characterized by more abstract, more technical sounds, sometimes incorporated from other genres of electronic dance music, including UK garage, electro, and drum and bass. Typically, tracks ranged between 125 to 140 beats per minute (bpm), often featuring a dominant bass line.
>Big beat is a style of music that typically uses heavy breakbeats and synthesizer-generated loops and patterns common to techno and acid house
Its all the same.
>what is funky house
>what is UK funky
>what is jazzy techno
This problem is not exclusive to breaks.
>this guitar is jangly
boom, jangle pop
>this guitar is slower
boom, drone metal
shitty examples, but you get the point
>Broken beat is a music genre that can be characterized by syncopated rhythm typically in 4/4 meter, with staggered or punctuated snare beats and/or hand claps.
that applies to most every breaks genre, it's pretty much what makes the breaks. This helps a bit:
>Artists in this area mostly have a drum and bass, house, hip hop, techno or acid jazz background. Broken beat also has its roots in 1970s jazz fusion and has been influenced by artists such as Lonnie Liston Smith, The Mizell Brothers (producers for Donald Byrd, Bobbi Humphrey and Johnny Hammond in the mid-1970s), Herbie Hancock, George Duke, and others. One might also hear echos of disco, 1980s contemporary R&B and funk (Shalamar, Prince), early electronica (Kraftwerk), hip hop (Planet Rock), 1980s new wave (Depeche Mode, New Order), house and techno in broken beat.
Its all just post African repetitions.
some more 1990 hardcore/early breaks tracks:
and these are 1989:
and this is just good - 1991:
>Electronic Dance Music Origin 13/14
>The real inventor of electronic music was Grog, who in 65,000 BC started banging his stick against a rock in a rhythmic, synchronous repetetitetitetive motion, thereby producing the first tribal track. And what, pray tell, is so electronic about that?
>Well....he was struck by lighting at the time. It really gave an analogue warmth and fullness to his sound.
hardcore breaks was heavily hip-hop influenced from the beginning, using hip-hop breaks in club productions. there is a pretty obvious continuation from some of those tracks onto hc breaks, no need to be so anal about it.
the video I linked was to a radio program run by Hyperdub and the track has an unknown artist. Burial said that in his early days he sent some tracks to Hyperdub way before being signed, so the speculation is that this is one of those tracks.
>Wire: The tracks you made and discarded. Do they still exist?
>Burial: Some of them I lost because my computer’s dead. But I’ve got a few of them and I might resurrect them. I lost faith. I want to learn but its difficult, I've made mistakes. Next album maybe I'll gather my forces, make a true darkside Burial album. Step up and do it.
Apologies, I had some dinner to attend to...(!) Now that I'm back and you 'English Working Class' types have had time to formulate a proper response to my argument, I am weary (but, not shocked, indeed...!) to discover that you "mates" have not managed to prove any of what I have said to be wrong. Rather, you have resulting to insults and mindless posting. Proof that this thread is the least intelligent on all of /mu/...(!)
At least, to my knowledge, in threads about Jazz Music and Experimental Electronic Music the user-base there is capable of at least engaging in discussion. Here, I feel that the repetitive and un-nuanced music you "mates" love so much has rendered you all to be idiots... Or, maybe, that's because of all the drinking you have to do in order to enjoy this music! Haha! Pathetic!
One day you will learn the errors of your ways and migrate back to the founders that birthed this music. But remember, you can't fully appreciate the intricacy of Venetian Snares if you are drunk...(!) First step, I'd say, is to stop dulling your minds. Then you can open your minds with pioneering, interesting, and innovative musics such as that of Richard D James or Aaron Funk...(!)
In the mean time, however, I will be monitoring the thread for any worthwhile comments regarding my aforementioned argument regarding the history of electronic music (as you see it)!
Mine is exclusively filled with '24-bit FLAC Rips' of intelligent music that has been burt to vinyl records...(!) I don't need Soulseek because I've got 'top-of-the-range' speakers and a brilliant set of ears!
-The .jpg is related!
>multiple formats / bit-rates
>everything is there but if it's not just request it and someone will get you it
>faster than some retard russian connection
yeah loads of hassle to leave something seeding mate, wish i used soulseek!
I saw Four Tet in Sainsburys the other day.
I told him how sick it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a prick and nag him and ask him for photos or nuffin.
He said, “alright lad”
I was proper sketched, and all I could say was “u wot m8?” but he kept cutting me off and going “hey, hey, hey!” and coming up with a new melody on the laptop in his trolley. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw Four Tet trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen cans of stella in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “brer, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be Burial and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the cans and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent me naming my war dub "send for you”," and then turned around and gurned at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each can and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by finishing a new collab he was working on.
Hey yall. I wanna get into bleeps. I want something that's a little more upbeat-sounding, like pic related. Skynro sounded amazing on the bus today. What would be similar to this?
Fuck Ron Morelli, he is a massive prick. I know he didn't start the label but I am sick of his L.I.E.S. bullshit. Releasing a bunch of records, most selling only on hype, with a stupid amount coming out last year. Most were shit. His music will be forgotten in the near future.
that's great and everything but what's that got to do with DJ Harlow (aka pearson sound)
i agree with you about morelli and lies (though lies is home to some seriously good stuff too)
I guess it really has to do with this lo-fi house and techno sound that is dominating right now. The stuff just sounds lazy. Compare a l.i.e.s. record to a record by donato dozzy. dozzy's productions are so much more beautiful and well produced
not all lies stuff is the same tier though. check out terekke or torn hawk or something for some luxury sounds
to compare one guy to an entire label is a bit ridiuclous. moreso for the fact that lies favours a rougher sound, which can be beautiful and well produced in it's own way (see terekke or something)
yeah, 90% crap to be honest
lol, wouldn't be surpirsed if he was a porn star. it's your job to find his scenes m8, get to it
i would if stephen (who is in charge of echospace the label btw, rod isn't really involved) was sensible about it.
i would buy the cd if i could, but for some reason he insists on making each release limited to like < 100 copies. just checked the bandcamp. SOLD OUT.
furthermore, have u fucking read the discogs thread about echospace? people are waiting MONTHS to receive their orders.
i would give stephen my money if he wised up and entered the 21st century
>where do I start with [popular artist with 3 albums]
oh god these sorts of threads annoy me more than they should, i don't know why but they get on my nerves more than most shit threads