hey fellow wannabe producers!
what's your opinion on reveal sound spire (pic related)?
whats your favorite plugin/soft synth?
>not using a powerhouse like zynaddsubfx
>so many more features than propiterary synths
>actually realizes it's on a fucking computer and uses more than one window and not slap a shit ton of knobs everywhere on a single window
seriously why are all these producers so pleb and want to pay so much money for inferior synths?
I love using Massive and Anatares! definitely alot to choose from and to create your own
it has so many features it does everything that a lot of producers I know use 5 different types of synths to do while zyn can additive, subtractive, fm, vowel filters, shit like that.
Yeah. Like I only use those synths that can be versatile
I even used a lot of different ones on this beat and went from there
I fucking hate it when shit has more than one page of controls. I feel like that might be different if I were really really into sound design but when that shit is too complicated and my only option is to stop everything else to work on a sound, it's like "ugh" and don't even get me started on what a bitch it is to start expressing the sound with automation.
I'm a really lazy sound designer. I mostly use Synth1 and Romplers.
I mainly use Bazille (fm-synth) with the Eventide Ultrachannel (it was free a few months ago). Sometimes i use some free Glitchmachines plugins which are pretty cool.
Does anybody here use MAX/MSP? I'm really on the fence about it since it's 20% off. My main conceirn is that it's so vast and flexible that i will never get things done. Which was the problem i had when i still used a modular system.
>tl;dr can you actually finish projects with max or do you just use it to experiment and play around?
I haven't used those but I've used the glitch! alot. Check some videos out! and for it being so big I think you should just work in sections!
I would also like to say that you NEED to make the sound YOUR OWN! always! so people would:
>wonder how you did it
>and be jealous(lol)
Be creative with it
yeah well one thing I didn't consider when talking about Zyn is that the documentation is pretty poor, there's not enough tutorials on it. So I guess I can understand others shying away from it.
I had to learn really just from fucking about. It was worth it though, learned a lot about synthesis in general and made synths like Massive or Synth1 look like easy shit.
you're right! forgiveness?
keep it in a soundcloud/bandcamp thread bruh
i used it for a while - the main thing max/msp has going for it are the extensive help files tbh. i made a little shitty automatic glitchy drum sequencer with it
i'm not sure it's worth the price point. get the free trial maybe and see if something comes to you. but i'm just going to use supercollider for the rare times when i need to do something that precise
one of my secret weapons audio damage's Replicant
it's got some really cool delay effects and when you figure out how to use it to your advantage it's da bomb
other than that i pretty much use all native plug ins
Anatares have some crazy good presets. it also does a sample play. kinda like playing some chords for you so you can see how it rolls!
and anytime! thanks for the network! sorry about annoying people with my link!
I've messed with almost everything in the box now, but unless I need sample libraries the only synth in there I use much is Absynth. It's cool, but the interface is absolutely fucked.
Im sorry I kept telling everyone the wrong plugin!
It's Sonic Academy ANA. not Antares
I apologies. even though they make great vocal plugins. apologies
It's important because it really helps step outside of your box. But It's good to learn how to make your own sounds using those software
no links lol
I usually get in this weird mood that makes me wanna make music for a few weeks, like 3-4 and I make 4-5 songs and one of them always stands out compared ot the others. Then I get bored and stop for a week or two.
I usually make songs in under 3 days technically, then I go back and touch em up and maybe add something here and there then
mix/master them and I'm done.
I got like 3 projects underway and i go through the same process. I asked a girl that was on Flying Lotus album for advice and she just said to keep at it. EVEN when you don't feel like it. keep pushing it!
I try to do so. just never overwhelm yourself
HAHAHA Sorry fam. I annoy you with links and now with my projects.
> I have one where It's all samples
> I have one that's all original instrumentation and some vox
> and I have one that is just pure hip hop at its finest
It's pretty trivial to recreate a drum machine like the 808 in a a standard subtractive synthesiser, you'd be surprised. You don't need a special synthesiser to do that. Ableton actually supplies an 808 knockoff that's just a drum rack where each pad is connected to an Operator instance.
The 808 kick isn't FM or subtractive. It uses a circuit called a bridged-t network. It's a special oscillator that makes noise when it is excited by a trigger, and responds dynamically to bigger triggers. The decay time is controlled by a feedback loop. It also goes slightly flat at long decay settings.
That's why they're a bitch to emulate.
I run ableton. It has everything you need for sound generation. The only really weak link is the reverb, and M4L solves that issue with a convolution plug-in. People say that the sounds and effects are weak, but that is because they are meant to be layered and stacked in racks.
>some weird little plugins I've downloaded somewhere
>Kontakt 5 with some pretty basic libraries
>Nexus just to be able to open older projects
These are the ones I use most commonly anyway.
I don't think an amatuer using a sampler is going to equate professionals making multi samples and releasing a plugin based off if those sounds.
Also, you have yet to name any 70s synth sounding sample banks.
>Also, you have yet to name any 70s synth sounding sample banks.
You have yet to even answer anon's question. The point I'm getting at is that there's no shortcut for authentic retro sound. I love digital and softsynths, but I don't use them to imitate vintage things.
Really almost any synthesizer.
From up up in the thread, ZynAddSubFX is super-powerful and free.
From my own experience, Tyrell and Synth1 are also powerful but much easier to use.
It takes time to get the most out of your tools tho so pay attention to what you're doing, what you're doing wrong, and what your heroes are doing right.
zynaddsub looks really confusing
I have synth1 but I neglect it
I think a lot of it has to do with my chords to like I make something then play it back to myself and it sounds so amateur
Operator is an FM synth. Look up how to learn any FM synth. There are some really good tutorials out there but I'm much too lazy to go link you one.
Yeah, I don't actually like Zynblablabla either.
Try writing your parts monophonically. Just as an exercise, don't make any one synth do a whole chord. Give each note in the chord to a different synth. Maybe put at least one of the notes in a different octave.
Also, use your I-V! If you don't understand that and use it, you're gonna have a bad time.
25 keys isn't enough for two hands, and you're still pretty limited using one hand. Sure you can make the argument of having octave buttons and using your daw to add notes, but at that point, why bother with a controller.
My point is that, if you're getting a midi controller, you might as well get enough keys to make it worth the money.
I was. It's incredibly helpful to understand that the I chord creates an expectation that you're going to eventually hear a V chord. It's one of the easiest ways to build tension, tease at resolution and then release the tension. It's a formula but it's an almost unavoidable and an extremely powerful one.
It's the other way around dingus. The I is stable, you don't expect it to go anywhere. You're going to expect the V or V7 to lead to a I, though it is often more interesting when you don't, leading the listener on.
You should check out theoria.com for some good exercises and basic theory stuffs.
Meanwhile Avicii (that was his nickname?) and a few others have music mag studio videos where you can clearly see they use cracked software (for example there was "licenced for Team AiR" on Nexus). It's not like he couldn't afford it.
>still in box
Then why don't you just go ahead and send it my way?
remove the mac symbol at the top if you have a pc... free plugs for everybody!
1. make a 16 bar loop with at least 5 parts
2. copy paste it a few times
3. add and subtract parts to make the track evolve
this is how most dance music is made (excluding "drop" centric tracks). once you master this then you start experimenting with song structure.
I'm trying to buy Komplete 10 in the next couple of weeks. I found a good torrent of Massive but I can't find good ones of any other NI plugins. I mainly want to play around with FM8 and Absynth. There are just so many plugins that I feel like I'm going to be overwhelmed as fuck