Let's have a /prog/ thread and see how it goes.
Everything slightly related to Prog counts. So feel free to post Avant-Prog, Math Rock, "Experimental/Art" Rock, even Jazz, Fok and Metal!
What have you been listening to recenty?
Favorite prog rock albums?
Post Youtube/DL links so that we can discover new bands easily.
And remember guys, Prog Rock is not dead!
Haven't heard him yet, but there is probably something after it that you would like.
What do you usually like in Prog?
Reminder to you that you have no way to know what gender I am.
Jazz has been my favorite genre of music to perform and listen to for years. A friend of mine thought that I'd really like Soft Machine upon listening to them. So, I listened to pic related, and this is what I got: a band that can establish a groove, but sometimes has difficulties transitioning from one major idea to another. Additionally, I don't think these guys are the technical wizards that my friend said they were, but I was impressed by a lot of the drummer's playing.
You might like Henry Cow's first album then. Similar sound, but with less vocals and even better drumming (imo).
Here's a post from the archive
"The Henry Cow Legend.
Already listened to the full album like 7 times, and songs like Nirvana for Mice and Teenbeat like 12 in less than two weeks. That album is just so comfy I want to listen to it all the time.
It also predicted "Post-Rock" 20 years before Post-Rock was even a thing.
For fans of Soft Machine, Zappa's Uncle Meat and comfy Jazz-Rock.
Here is a sample
Make a Rising then. They have slightliy GG influences, together with Yes, and Modern Classical.
>Make a Rising - Bradford's Big Boatride [Beyond (the Dawn)]
Just wait until 2:40, one of the most intense feels I have ever heard.
Yes makes some of the most beautiful melodies I have heard.
Those drums a little bit past the minute mark are pretty rad.
It's not considered prog, but have you listened to any of the pieces by Brian Ferneyhough? I got into him a few weeks ago, and a lot of his pieces just feel so demanding from the performer, and I really liked them.
I've just listened to this album and It's really great, easily one of my new favourites.
Anyone knows similar albums?
>Those drums a little bit past the minute mark are pretty rad.
Just wait for minute 4. That part makes me lose my shit.
Yeah, listened to it one day, but can't remember how it was.
Could you post a link?
has there ever been an album like this since
i guess if not screamo, any sort of punk-rocky prog
>Yes makes some of the most beautiful melodies I have heard.
They have some frustratingly catchy hooks. What I really like about them though is the sheer fluidity of their playing. I like to think of them as the English version of Can, not stylistically or ideologically but in terms of their band mechanic.
I honestly think Scaruffi does a really good job of describing Yes's music.
>If the fusion [of genres] was not unique, the glacial composure certainly was: Yes albums sounded more like scientific experiments than party music. The Yes Album (1971) introduced their schizophrenia: Yours Is No Disgrace and Starship Trooper went for strenuous instrumental bravura, while I've Seen All Good People revolved around a catchy refrain. The virtuoso performers (particularly drummer Bill Bruford and keyboardist Rick Wakeman) achieved a sublime degree of balance on Fragile (1971), whose Roundabout, South Side Of The Sky and Heart Of The Sunrise flowed like clockwork mechanisms. The apex of the Yes' apparent contradiction (a style that was both frigid and romantic) was reached on Close To The Edge (1972), whose Close To The Edge and And I And You were lengthy, complex and densely chromatic fantasias, and the very definition of "art-rock".
His pieces seem to be all about the composer's control over the performers. Like, the rhythms and accents aren't really left open to any interpretation.
Anything similar to early Rush that I should check out?
Yeah, something that I really like about some of their songs is how they sound like a clockwork, but very freely, like water sometimes, at the same time.
I have heard that Atomic Rooster has a similar sound and it's even from an earlier era, so maybe check them out.
No. Check those
Pak, Grumpf Quartet, Make a Rising, Koenjihyakkei, Blast, Mars Volta, Rich Woodson's Ellipsis, Alamaailman Vasarat, and Harpy.
All from this millenium, very varied and original, and of good quality.
Checking it right now.
Listening to this right now. Been digging Yeti a lot too, along with most of the Can and Popol Vuh.
Krautrock is my favorite nostalgic gettin' high music.
Reminds me of this, but without the catchy hooks.
Is this supposed to be enjoyed after subsequent listens? I'm liking the sound so far.
If you post a less known album remember to post links!
I'm glad you like them.
Keep in mind all of those are very different to each other, but at the same time considered Prog.
Not GJ, but I just wanted to interject and say they've had some of the best drummers I've ever witnessed or heard of. Omars mixture of frivolity and dictation with his songwriting gives it an endearing uniqueness, even if clumsy and wanky at times. Cedric comes up with the most bizarre and drugged out lyrics that mean nothing only half the time, but are genius the other half. I feel like he's pretty honest about it and has a good sense of humor, while his melodies are on point literally 99.9% of the time.
>tfw one day this chalk outline will circle the city
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>favorite time signature
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I'm not sure how the composer intended his piece to be enjoyed. I like Ferneyhough's usage of rhythm though. He's capable of being sparse at times and extremely busy at others, but despite these shifts it feels like he's mastered flow, at least for his arrangements.
Thank you for your recs, man. I've enjoyed them.
Well, it has been keeping me interested for more than 20 minutes, and I'm already downloading it.
Maybe that Quartet has some hidden trasures that reveal over time. Who knows?
And yes, the rhythms and dynamics are great. It reminds me to this too, but it's less chaotic. Also, best crescendo ever at the end.
>Tetsu Saitoh - Introduction
I'm actually listening to this masterpiece.
VUVR=Vyzkumny Ustav Vodnich Radosti (institute of research for aquatic amusement) mix jazz, prog, bossa nova and Death Metal. I'll link a song below
It's "poorly done", but I love it!
The end of Tendon is also great, reminds me to the intro of Chain by Melt Banana
Ron Jarzombek's Solitarily Speaking
The Moody Blues is god tier prog rock. being one of the first bands to mix classical and blues rock, their sound is pretty unique for their time.
I just finished listening to this. The longer, jammier tracks like "God Took a Picture...", "Escaped and Lost..." and "Ganagmanag" were really great, but the other more straightforward pop tracks were pretty boring and a little grating.
Do they have anything more in the vein of those three long tracks, or should I be listening to a different band?
Was going to post in the Bandcamp thread, but this seems more relevant.
One of my bands is releasing a prog rock album very soon (today or tomorrow). There's some noodley jazz, ambient, noise rock and doomy riffs.
Just put out this live video the other day:
>ctrl+f Van Der Graaf
Come on guys, step it up. Pawn Hearts is easily a top 10 Progressive Rock album, and the rest of their catalog is consistently excellent as well.
Camel are great too. Not legendary or anything, but Mirage is a strong release.
No ELP either, as usual. Never seems to be any love for them.
Both very solid albums.
Post Youtube links!
>Come on guys, step it up. Pawn Hearts is easily a top 10 Progressive Rock album, and the rest of their catalog is consistently excellent as well.
DL'ing right now.
>Camel are great too. Not legendary or anything, but Mirage is a strong release.
The only memorable moment for me was the heavy synth from one of the songs.
>No ELP either, as usual. Never seems to be any love for them.
I like them.
GOAT tull album
hi mister math god,
a week ago you recommended me to listen to Make a Rising based on what i posted in a chart thread
I quite liked it, it's like AnCo mixed with Can and Yes, but nothing really stood out to me. is this an album that should 'click' or should i wait until band reaches their perfect sound?
I once saw an album at a thrift shop that had an overall light blue colour with objects painted in it, one of which is a pack of cigarettes.
I don't remember the name but i'm almost certain that t was prog.
Can anyone help me?
>is this an album that should 'click'
Definitely. You should at least get chills when listening to the Boatride song.
>or should i wait until band reaches their perfect sound?
That album was their Best, and is probably going to be unmatched.
Be more specific if you can.
I can't really remember more of it and i'm afraid to be specific because i might give the wrong impression. it may has wel been a giant wave on the cover, with a pack of marlboro's on it
i do remember one thing though. the name sounded japanese to me
who /progarchives/ here?
that site is honestly the best place ive found for prog besides actual record stores.
the only drawback is that its like reddit, the most popular records get reviewed the most so its hard to find obscure gems. but they're worth finding on that site.
love Canterbury Scene.
I do occasionally, but never to find things, always to learn more about albums I know.
Steve Hillage was the first progressive rock I ever heard, still have the original Green vinyl from my childhood.
That site is pretty bad, imo. Especially the rating system. But it has some nice features too, like the best albums with few ratings. Try gnosis2000. That site is pretty good, and it's a lot more updated to wghat it seems to be.
Their forums are cool it seems
Bands/Musicians I'm currently in love with:
If anyone can rec something similar to any of these (emphasis on Opeth and GG) I'd be eternally grateful. I know many of the well-known prog bands so, y'know, don't rec Dream Theater or Camel.
I realise walking into a prog thread and announcing this on /mu/ is akin to suicide but here goes - I quite like the new Opeth album.
One of my most recent favorites. This album is so happy. Totally worth the buy
hmm, then it might not be for you. But the least you can listen to is Red Queen to Gryphon Three, one of the best prog albums ever made
Not sure if serious... Listen to the album in OPs picture if serious (Yes - Fragile). Then you'll have an idea what prog(ressive) is. It is, however, a very expansive genre with many sub-genres.
If not serious, fuck you.
I can't stop listening to Cardiacs.
This one is pretty underrated.
This can be very subjective, but for me it's Rock with "more elements". For example, different time signatures, instruments, multiple sections, complex chord progressions, or anything like that. Almost anything that isn't conventional rock could be considered Prog Rock, but again, that's my personal view.
Why would someone do that? ;_;
Don't be rude, please.
Check this chart (It's awful though)
Look at this, maybe you'll enjoy it.
I already know it, and it's a good album
they were several times in sharethreads
I think nah, but i feel you.
I also think that the chart had a serious lack of univers zero, or was it under 70s?
And i like that 7 idiots is there, amazing album. But i feel that prog rock is an extremely vague genre.
Because of this, i'd rec pop tatari, mong hang (that pink album), LSD march and AMT to anyone itt.
Any idea where I can find the Dieu est Fou album?
lots of pro-rock fans seem to enjoy it, but I've been unable to find it myself.
Other than that, great zeuhl list, although I'd add Les Morts vont vite, The Magus, and K.A. :)
what are the three albums in your 90s prog-rock section?
>I think nah, but i feel you.
Oh, well. Still, I feel that, if you consider Post Rock a real genre, it would have started with the RIO bands.
>I also think that the chart had a serious lack of univers zero, or was it under 70s?
What chart? If it's the essential it was under 70s
>And i like that 7 idiots is there, amazing album.
I'm glad you like it!
>But i feel that prog rock is an extremely vague genre.
That's how it should be, imo. You also have the different sub-genres to describe them better.
You mean the Boredoms album?
>mong hang (that pink album)
That one is great! Thanks for reminding me, because I deleted it.
Will check the rest, thanks!
Get Soulseek, seriously. It will make your life a lot easier.
Well, for the Zeuhl section I took some albums from Boku no Tripfag's chart. And K.A no, only one album per artist.
>what are the three albums in your 90s prog-rock section?
Tipographica - God Says I Can't Dance
Il Berlione - s/t
Harpy - Speech on the Radio
Yes the boredoms album, it's not prog rock, but it's pretty progressive. I have a huge bias towards it though, as it was the album that got me into experimental and avant garde music.
But definitely check out LSD March (under milk wood is great) and AMT if you want some amazing (progressive) psych rock
Pascal Duffard - Dieu est fou
at glorious 192kb/s straight from the golden days of Mutant Sounds
I have listened to AMT too before, but it was too slow for my liking as far as I remember.
And remember, anything goes in these threads. So feel free to post whatever you want!
Henry Cow's Legend! >>48863559
Haken is fucking incredible if you guys haven't heard them, I highly, HIGHLY recommend them. They're more of a metal band though.
if you don't want to listen to the intro skip to 3:15
I'm really digging this, sounds like yes when they play happy song parts but more modern. Do you have a download link? I'm having a hard time finding one.
Do you guys like Marillion? their career is truly impressive and in 3 decades they made quite a few classic albums
Alright mu, you're gonna have to trust me on this one, I can't link anything so you're gonna have to go out of your way to discover these amazing bands and albums.
If you like progressive jazz and fusion you must be aware of these gems:
CAB by CAB
Mystical Adventures by Jean Luc Ponty
Szobel by Hermann Szobel
Lingua Franca by TRAM
Elektric Band by Chick Corea
Arc of the Testimony by Arcana
Brain Salad Surgery by ELP
Separate Realities by Trioscapes
Have fun :)
This is a classic. I couldn't get into VDGG until I heard this. Lots of dark feels.
Any fellow Yes fans absolutely love this album? I think it is probably the most underrated Yes album of their entire discography.
So, I've been really digging Tool recently, especially this album. What are some other bands I can listen to that sound similar?
Bats - Red In Tooth and Claw
It's Post-Hardcore with weird time signatures, but it has a very similar sound imo.
I heard that their first album was their best. I enjoyed it a lot the first time I listened to it.
UFO 2 Flying
"One Hour Space Rock"
The only hardcore tool fans I know irl are fox/dc tier bros and stoners, this tipping shit is ridiculous. I know it's this blown out meme but seriously it doesn't fit this band. I'm not even a fan, but this is some stupid shit.
No, it lacks the things that make Yes truly remarkable IMO (namely Wakeman's arrangement of the material). The eponymous track is one of my faves though.
>If you like progressive jazz and fusion you must be aware of these gems
>no Arti e Mestieri, Area, Return to Forever, Mahavinshu Orchestra, Tipographica, Henry Cow, Rich Woodson's Ellipsis, Korekyojinn or Perhaps
Nah, your list is okay. Be sure to check the ones I mentioned too though. Those are also gems.
Also, Szobel is fucking great!
It definetly shows off what the band was in their formative years, before their next album "The Yes Album" made them huge and popular. BUT I still think it is an amazing album, and I'm always sad that it is frequently over-looked. I think it has a more scifi, more psychedelic sound than most of their albums. That's what appeals to me the most I guess.
Shack Tatti by Mats/Morgan.
Fanfare du Chaos by Rhun is also good, but from 2013.
So, Prog Rock is not dead.
Depends on what you mean with pathetic, because I don't consider myself one in any way. But well, at least I'm not a bitter asshole and instead decided to live a happy life.
Symphonic classic-style prog with loads of instrumentals. He was the Genesis guitarist so of course he has a bit of a Genesis sound, but on Voyage of the Acolyte at least he sounds more like early King Crimson with the harder sound.
Please people I am dying, I can't find a (free) download link for the Moon Safari (Blomljud) recommended before. I listened to it in bandcamp and was great.
Please welp, anyone willing to share it?
I did see some difficult stuff from your list, but this is even more difficult. It's by far, together with another album, the most difficult and challenging albums I have ever heard.
That one makes Trout Mask Replica sound like Early Beatles.
Any proggy punk-rock in the vein of Pere Ubu and This Heat? Or for that matter, any punky prog-rock?
Is Nomeansno prog-punk, or just very complex hardcore?
What is post-hardcore, and how does it relate to prog, if at all?
>Is Nomeansno prog-punk, or just very complex hardcore?
Punk with complex rhythms.
>What is post-hardcore, and how does it relate to prog, if at all?
Honestly, I have no idea. I don't listen a lot of that stuff, but it just sounds like it.
I don't think it really related to prog though.
Pink Floyd (WYWH-Animals)
Manfred Mann's Earth Band
The Mars Volta
practically any modern prog
>anything that's not my favorite is objectively shit
Have you guys heard omar's other material? Highly recommend pic related if you want feels, recommend Old Money, Xenophanes, Absent Makes The Heart Grow Fungus, Se Dice Bisonte No Bufalo, and Calibration for prog insanity
i love cantebury intensely but you're being an entry level narrowminded fuck anon.
there is good modern prog, just like there is obscure 70s prog that outperforms any of those you listed
Just wondering: Miranda, That Ghost Just Isn't Holy Anymore is one of my favorite TMV tracks, especially with that huge spaghetti-western horn sound; does ORL have any solo material in that sort of Morriccone-esque vein?
Anyone here listen to Ayreon? Arjen is a pretty goofy guy, but the music is pretty fun and engaging.
he doesn't use that specific horn sound much in his other material, but the sort of somber mood can be found scattered throughout, like near the end of Megaritual ("Dispanec Triage"), in Solar Gambling ("Los Tentáculos De La Libélula"), in Se Dice Bisonte No Bufalo ("Thermometer Drinking the Bussness of Turnstiles", "Lurking About In A Cold Sweat (Held Together by Venom)"), on Calibration ("Cortar El Cuello"). It might not be exactly what you're looking for, but i REALLY suggest you give these a shot, they're great moments in these albums (which are themselves great journeys if you ask me)
>queen is prog rock
the only thing progressive about them was the fact that they had an openly gay front man
I don't think so, no. not even completely sure of that term hahaa, but if you mean to say like the use of the horns and the whole spaghetti-western deal, then I don't recall anything like it, no , sorry
A favorite. Worth checking out, especially if you are into the Canterbury scene
Aha, glad I'm not the only one! Everyone I show him to can't dig it either because they try to take it seriously, or treat it like a joke, there's no middle ground.
Really dig that song btw, thanks for posting.
If you haven't listened to Steven Wilson's solo albums yet, there's a solid start
Dude, you are crazy to say there have been no good prog releases lately.
Animals as Leaders, IQ, Mastodon, Sleep Party People, Haken, Leprous, Birds and Buildings, Nemrud, The Psychedelic Ensemble, Riverside, Scale the Summit, Steven Wilson and United Bible Studies have all created great albums this year and last.
Anathema, Astra, Echolyn, The Flower Kings, Kayo Dot, Marillion, Motorpsycho, and The National Orchestra of the United Kingdom of Goats have made great albums in 2012.
Not to mention the debut albums made from Perfect Beings, Pervy Perkin, Telepathy and Pomegranate Tiger in 2013/14.
I hope this list gives you some awesome new prog to listen to
I'm not an expert on prog at all, but I think that Electric Moon is the best modern prog I've ever heard.
Hiromi Uehara, Pekka Pohjola, Colosseum, as well as Italian Prog (It's a thing, here's a link: http://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=28)
Frank Zappa has some great jazz albums too. Hot Rats, Grand Wazoo, Waka/Jawaka, and One Size Fits All are all excellent albums.
I should also mention that ProgArchives.com is the ultimate site to find Prog from any genre or era.
Any rush fans here who likes the 80s era?
i feel like the few ones that actually likes it, my top 3 albums of all time are: Grace under pressure, Signals and Power windows, The 80s was a great time for the holy trinity