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>tfw trying to make a lot of different stuff
>tfw end up to trash everything
>tfw can't find my own style
How do you cope with these feels? I've tried to do some acoustic stuff, it sounded good but it didn't feel mine, I tried post-rock but it was shit, black metallish songs sound too generic and I always end up doing random harsh noise because fuck all. I lack inspiration.
>tfw drummer for like 3 different people's music
>tfw none of it is music i want to play on my own
i just want to be in a proper mathy noise band, i just want to hit bang the drums as hard and fast as i can for as long as i can. considering starting to do solo drum stuff, but i'm not quite good enough yet, a.k.a i'm not even close to good enough
>tfw trying to make a lot of different stuff
of course you're never going to get good at anything if you keep flitting about restless between styles.
focus on something you numpty.
it's much harder than what you're doing right now but it's the only way to get good at something.
80% of your time should be spent specialising - where you work your ass off to get really fucking good.
the rest of the time is your downtime, a chance to go exploring and have fun.
I don't do it for a living but it's like the only thing that doesn't make me feel useless, anyway I should try to give a rest nonetheless.
What if I don't know on what to focus?
>What if I don't know on what to focus?
flip a coin.
if you pick wrong, you'll find out in the long run but at least you'll be miserable and kind-of-good at something you hate instead of shit at everything.
plus, skills are translatable so it's relatively easy to take what you've learned while getting good at a certain thing and apply it to other things.
but that's only after like 3+ years of complete dedication to a certain thing.
you'll end up learning to love the thing you're focusing on anyway.
pick a genre you're very familiar with so you know the tropes and when you've ended up sounding like someone else. spend the first year and half listening to the shit out of whatever genre you pick - everything, with a fine tooth comb.
>tfw can't write an actual song that isn't awful or boring as shit so just hide behind pedalboard making soundscapes with guitar
>tfw the shit you do is a dime a dozen
>Get this incredible idea in your head
>Come home to work on it
>Get very frustrated because your idea isn't translating well into the program you use to make music or you can't actually figure out how to recreate the idea you had in your head
>forget the idea
>come back weeks or months later
>listen to the song, have no idea what you were originally trying to do but knew it would have been great had you kept going
The worse feel
>tfw trying to make bleeps and bloops on fl studio
>everything sounds like something a 12 year old would make
>i mean some beats are nice but the sound just seems like it was poorly made on fl studio (i don't know how to say it in a better way)
>i end up losing interest in the 30 seconds of beat i make
>have like 40 beats like this
>tfw used to record every day, sometimes full songs, sometimes little ideas
>tfw it was the only thing that was fulfilling
>tfw enrolled in audio engineering and got a macbook and Pro Tools from the school
>tfw mix improves exponentially with new equipment and software
>tfw expelled because I'm a lazy faggot who didn't want to complete the curriculum
>tfw laptop and Pro Tools is taken away
>tfw can't force myself to go back to a shitty old Intel tower running XP and using Mixcraft
>tfw haven't recorded anything in over half a year and it's my own damn fault
I need to quit being so shitty
Keep at it, when I first started using fl studio I used to make the shittiest shit in the world. As you progress and get a feel for the daw and know the ins and outs. It will sound much better. Then again fl studio might not be for you.
>I can only make good music if I'm on drugs
>Even then, I cannot fill the hole in my life
>about to release my first single
>can't come up with a band name
>want to learn bass
>afraid I won't be good and it'll be a waste of money
>I'll probably lose interest like I did with the guitar and just drop it
>can't stop listening to songs with a funky bass line
How much are the pedals you want?
Search some really obscure albums, choose the song titles you like the best and fuck around with the words until you come up with something that doesn't sound like you're ripping someone off. That whole the title has to mean something is complete bullshit.
>that feel when every song you listen to creates a situation in your thread where you and her are together
>tfw been in bands for years
>never do exactly what I want
>tfw last year have epiphany
>meet girl singer at local show
>tfw we get together and write songs
>teach her synth
>tfw find a skilled guitarist who plays for the song and is a pedal freak. has great tone, is dedicated, and adds great guitar counterpoint.
>he knows a drummer
>tfw when drummer has a practice space, fantastic attitude, is willing to play to a click and loves the songs we're writing
>play a few shows with guitarist filling in on bass
>tfw bassist from semi-successful local band hears us and wants to join
>he's super subtle but creative, locks in dead tight with the drummer and can sing harmony
>play a lot of shows
>yesterday got recognized at starbucks, last week at record store
what the fuck is happening?
>but no friends to make a band
>soundcloud comments all shit on my voice
>mfw i'll never make music again
just get the behringer copies of what you need. depending on the type of dream pop you'll only need delay, reverb and maybe chorus and phase.
don't get caught up in the internet pedal game. the biggest names are using BOSS and other cheap shit.
i'm scared you guys will hate and I'll get dox'd
we only have a few OK sounding recordings on our soundcloud at the moment anyways. we've been playing live and saving to do some good recordings.
>tfw make really weird / experimental music
>tfw never show it to friends for fear that they think i'm losing my mind
>tfw make weird electroacoustic stuff and people seem to enjoy it, even who's not into that stuff
I was considering to send something to a label but nothing of what I do satisfies me, I'd burn everything after two days.
fine. recommend a hosting site where I can post an mp3 to stream or something
Yo working on your voice is so straightforward. Listen to singers you like, try to imitate them, get close, but also add in what you think you want with it. Keep working on it all the time, get your unique singing voice, practice that into infinity
Best part about doing it is your voice is always there to practice with, don't have to go home and get your instrument
damn. thanks anons.
we're debating whether to record an EP or a full length at the moment. we got an offer last weekend from a pretty successful guy who engineered some very big name records that /mu/ loves.
we really don't know the next step to take. a full length is a lot of money and a lot of work. we genuinely have 12-15 songs that i feel are strong, but it might be wiser to record the best 6 or something. I don't know.
>tfw all my producer friends are getting radio play and signed to major labels and generally becoming really successful
>tfw the only claim to fame i have is that i made a bunch of silly mashups that got popular on Soundcloud
>tfw it'll probably define my entire musical career
6,000+ followers on Soundcloud isn't bad but not when none of them actually care about your real music
I explained it here:
I was kind of a poacher tbh
Go to a lot of local shows and find the people who are good players but not being fulfilled or appreciated in their bands. Or maybe they like dream pop but are playing in a punk band or a metal band.
Also I think it helps to have some material ready to work on immediately. Even if you don't end up using it, it cements bonds and you'll be able to quickly tell if you guys work well together.
or just be lucky idk
>tfw can't find anyone interested in the same music I am
>tfw those who are don't play [well]
>tfw I can't find anyone on my level and on the same wavelength
>tfw can't afford to move anywhere else until maybe next summer
Fuck dis gay earf.
Fuck, man. Me and a bunch of people wanted to follow you guys because we liked your stuff and you don't even post links because you are too scared of fucking photoshop. Who the fuck cares?
Unless you are rusing us.
yeah that's what i was thinking
the chick's going to have to work on hanging on to those notes, though i don't like her tone in general
but otherwise it sounds pretty cool. i'd take drugs to this
saint pepsi, spazzkid, absrdst, bo en
I'm not really like, *really* close with any of them, but I've done remixes for a couple of them and I was supposed to collaborate w/ saint pepsi once but that never happened
This might not be the best example, but the guy that posted the original 'justin beiber slowed down 800%' went on to collab with two steps from hell and celldweller. He claims he had the same problem with it being almost career ruining because no one wanted to hear his original music.
So keep trying man, it's definitely something you can break out of.
>get a band together
>all likeminded musicians
>jam sessions go great, everyone's good buds
>jam a few times and then everyone just kinda stops talking to each other, stops hanging out, stops jamming
>rarely does the band ever make it to the gigging process
>the worst part is people always like whatever band I'm in, if it actually made it to a gig or two
>tfw want to just do a solo folk/blues thing but can't into lyrics and too shy to sing in front of people
Why is life so hard
This is some pretty gorgeous music, I say. It's generic indie bullshit but somehow way better than that, like that's what you guys play but you make it actually sound good, to the point where I can call it indie and not mean it as an insult.
ty anon. I get what you're saying. I actually enjoy a lot of generic indie so it makes sense.
Yeah I am. I think you're right. These recordings were the first batch of songs we arranged together. I think the newer ones are better.
>tfw i put an album online last year and have been procrastinating physical copies of it since then
>tfw i'm finally going to devote all my free time to actually finishing them
>tfw it's going to be so fucking cool to sell my music on cassette
sorry for shitty pics, i didn't feel like finding the good camera, taking pics, plugging it into my computer, and resizing the pics, but i'll do that when i put it up for sale
no more than $5, i guess. i don't care about the money, i just want to share my music. i'll also be giving it to local record stores if they'll take it.
>singer / songwriter in a prog metal / grindcore band
>get a deal with a small but well known label within the community
>recording a concept EP
>label doesn't want to put it out due to the controversal nature of the concept
What should I do? I'm proud of the lyrics and i don't want to rewrite them.
The concept in short is this:
The hero is a young man who builds a time machine. He travels back to the time of his childhood to rape his then six year old sister. This changes the course of time forever and creates a discontinuum. When he travels back his sister has grown up to be in an incest relationship with his alternate self. The hero kills his doppelgänger self and takes his place. To cope with the shame he has kinky sex with male crackwhores with the hope to get Aids. When he finally gets Aids he also infects his sister. Then they both travel back to the time of her their childhood and rape their child selfs so they will die of Aids before they get into incest. After that the hero lets her sister die and travels into the far future and gets a cure for his Aids. Finally cured he goes back to the jurassic age to live with the dinosaurs.
both sides will be spray painted with fluorescent yellow, but i didn't do it on side b of this prototype because i decided to practice the drawing before i spray painted it.
i know side a looks kind of dumb here, because i didn't know what to draw on it at the time, but i decided on what to do with it now, and it'll look cooler when it's done.
i'd like to put extra stuff on the tapes with all the free space i have, but i haven't decided what to do yet.
They should've known this from the start. I guess try and talk it out and if they say no
>change the lyrics (keep these)
>use the new lyrics for the ep
>use the old lyrics for another ep (distribute it yourself if your contract allows it)
last pic, a close up of the cuban werewolf drawing.
That's what I was thinking. It just kinda sucks because we put a lot of work into music to go along with the music.
thx. I wanted to go a bit over the top with the concept.
I make shitcore. Shitcore is me screaming and playing random guitar notes really fast. It makes me happy. I'm also working on 5 IDM albums, a noiserock LP, a drone album, and an hour long cover of Wish You Were Here.
You can listen to my garbage here and here
Feedback is appreciated
Happens to every instrument related with "classical" music. You have to start at age 4, or resign to be mediocre (I could still study a shitload of years at uni, perform with local orchestras, even teach, but never be "world-class" or something memorable). It's a tough, full-time dedicated career or nothing.
Agree with everyone else. It's not perfect but its very catchy and you guys have a lot of potential, something about it pull you in.
>Try hard as fuck to git gud
>Have no natural talent whatsoever
>I'm meh, but definitely the worst player in my band
>Play a show
>Hear hostess saying "Yeah, the band was great except for that talentless bassist"
Contemplating quitting music
you'll be ok, anon. use this.
don't overplay. concentrate on locking with the kick drum at first then slowly add transitional walks. work on timing. work on muting the strings lightly and getting a nice "thump".
Keep in mind that a lot of successful singers, songwriters, musicians and etc have received their fair share of harsh criticism. Don't wait on natural talent. If you love music, don't give up on being a bassist. If you have the passion, you have the means to achieve your true potential.
Maybe you'll find that bass isn't for you. But there is so many possible things you can do in music I would keep looking if I were you.
spending your hard earned cash on a new instrument will encourage you to learn it
Trust me, it's the same thing with DAW's. If you pirate an expensive one you won't have any drive to git gud at it, but if you drop hundreds of dollars for it you'll want to get your money's worth
If /mu/ is hating on you, you probably have mainstream potential
You're gonna make fun of it
>Work on a post-rock project
>Get samples talking about a specific event distorted and some aren't audbile becasue of alot of effects, think it sounds really cool
>Add a simple drum beat over it, really slow
>Add a piano thing that I wrote myself, It's nothing amazing but sounds pretty eerie so it fits perfectly
>Want a guitar riff or something over it but don't play guitar
I'm gonna buy one in like a week, but I've been playing drums and piano for years so it feels like I will never be on the same level with all the instruments. And I really want to do this alone
You fucking wat m8. I pirated my daw and I put in work 24/7, its all about motivation. Spending money on an instrument you don't like to play is just depressing. You shouldn't force yourself to like an instrument.
Yeah, the truth is I probably don't gel well with the guys. They're really awesome people and good friends but definitely not my best music experience.
Tonnsss of EQing and sound problems for that show. Guitarist brought the wrong gauge strings so his guitar kept slipping out of tune, making our sounds clash a lot. I might have been too loud as well.
i promise that if you post your music i'll only give criticism if it's constructive. i want to hear what you have to work with so i can give you some advice. we're all friends here.
ignore them. As a musician you will always run into cunts, you have to learn to ignore them. If we are just trolls you can ctrl+w, your self worth shouldn't come from trolls online.
if you want i could help you out with guitar riffs. i really want to try playing post rock sometime, but i can't find any other musicians to help me with it, and all i play are guitar and bass. pls respond.
I'm a gear fag so I have drum machines out the ass, but unfortunately they leave a bit to be desired...
The robotic precision works well for my music (early post-rock) but they sound a bit cheese
I think ur trying too hard. no one really knows they have a style to begin with, just do things the way you want and before you know it, people will say: "hey i like your style man"
Then it will just click
i'm so jealous. i really need a mic. my dad apparently had a couple of old mics that are really popular for recording blues apparently, but i wasn't into recording music at the time, so he sold them.
Please don't, I don't even trust them with chargers anymore. Here's an infograph with some cheap mics you can get.
It seems everything I do with major keys sounds corny and cheesy unless it's some sort of baroque counterpoint masturbation
I mean, i managed to pull two semi-decent pieces in C and A but it seems I can't repeat it
Sorry I wasn't the other guy- I have tons of mics in my locker. But $50 for a condenser and shockmount is ridiculous! I'd totally drop that out of sheer curiosity, even if the mic sucks.
>listening to some rock music
>hmm this section would sound really nice as a hip hop beat
>try to into hip hop production
>look up how to cut up songs in to samples
>cut up all the pieces i need
>hey this is pretty easy
>yeah this trumpet part hear, if i could put the drums under it then..
>drums are out of time
>try to clip the sample, speed it up, slow it down, try fucking everything
>still doesnt sound right
>m-maybe i'll sample something else and put it over my trumpets ;_;
>nothing sounds right
>being so close to sounding good but no matter what it doesn't sound right
>hear a gorgeous r&b song on the radio when at work with female vocals that would sound great as a beat
>try to shazam it but its too quiet
>try to hear lyrics
>go home and google the lyrics
>lyrics are too vague to find anything
>e-mail the DJ of the radio station that I think was playing it
>he sends me the wrong song
this shit is just saddening
I used to feel like that too. I remember one soundcloud thread everyone got praises but my songs were "ok" "could be better". Used that as motivation and I couldn't be more thankful. I needed that push.
>listen to a release of mine i haven't heard in a while
>expect to hate it
>it's actually pretty good
>tfw literally every fucking drummer in your city is some try-hard drummer who doesn't know what dynamics are and can't play anything that isn't fast and hard
Why can't more drummers be like Ringo Starr?
These days the only musician related feels I get are in regard to how I produce my work. I still havent decided if I want the sing entirely in the left channel for one song or the acoustic guitar and have a panning synth. Ones more work than the other and in theory sounds like a great idea but the success rate is low
I think you should end it with him getting a cure to AIDS, to be honest. Living with the dinosaurs is just random bullshit in my opinion, whereas ending with him getting AIDS after going through all that has more punch to it--it almost seems like he's redeeming himself, but he's actually still a shithead.
>tfw when my cat doesnt come home in 4 days and i imagine his body everywhere
>tfw in mom's house for two weeks
>I have my first old beat up bass and acoustic gutiar
>literally I've come up with more parts and song ideas than I have in six months in my apartment
>inedible urge to record
>no recording gear here
>can't fucking wait to get back, it's actually quite frustrating
>taking a shit
>suddenly incredibly beautiful and crystal clear song pops into your head
>like nothing you've ever heard before
>realize exactly how to make it
>rush to finish up while trying your hardest to remember it
>as soon as you flush the idea is completely gone
>can never recall even a glimpse of it again
>she texts you everyday cause she wants to be friends
>tfw still love her but hate her even more
>pic related, Power For Power is the best song ever
the song was inside the poop logs, anon.
it was inside the poop logs.
Smart phones were created by the devil himself but iPhone voice memos are a wonderful thing
>get song idea while shaving
>whistle, hum, record
>playback and hear the awesome acoustics of your bathroom
i tried but its hard to know how much to slow it up or speed it down by. ableton has a setting where you can alter BPM, i set the BPM of both tracks to be the same and it came out sounding like that, which isnt right..
thanks man. here they are. i really appreciate your help.
this happens to me all the time but ive started recording myself humming on the iphone memos thing whenever it does.
its frustrating when it happens when im in a public place though as people would think im a freak if i did it.
>mfw i thought i was the only one that did this
>tfw i have been making music for 10 years
>tfw every month or so i change style because i cant stand what i did last
how do i fix this, how do i settle down
THAT FEEL WHEN NOBODY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT YOU
that feel when 1,000 twitter followers but none of them are fans
>tfw some uni girl add you on fb but never even say hi in real life
Guy's I don't know what to do
I wanna learn piano but buying a real piano is expensive as fuck and I don't have money and room for that
Can I learn piano on a 88 keys keyboard? What is a recommended keyboard to start learning on? Preferably not too expensive (price range up to 200 euro, maybe a little more if necessary)
I do have some experience with music but it's been a few years and it was on guitar so idk if it's relevant
Anyone can help me out? I'm sad because idk what to do so that's why I post itt
>be bass player in a band, just for fun, for 4 years
>write our own songs but the writing process is slow as fuck
>become good friends with bandmates through the years
>me and lead guitarist actually become quite decent at playing
>rythm guitarist and drummer are very hit-and-miss, one day they're good and the other day it seems like they don't know what the fuck they're doing
>they are both stubborn as fuck
>don't have time to start/play with a 2nd band
>feel like leaving the band and starting something serious with people who do know that the fuck they're doing
>if I leave the band the lead guitarist will probably follow
>tfw don't wanna let my mates down
The problem is that it was some weird complex mix of synths and acoustic guitar with Autechre-esque glitches. I don't think the human voice could replicate any of it.
Get a cheap yamaha or casio for about 200 if you just want to learn. They are usually not weighted well but they definitely are better than no weight. Most around the price are about 76 key but they usually have midi so hooking it up to the computer with a DAW can make it sound a lot better.
Oh of course, I don't fear that I'll forget the stuff I've come up with, it's just that I can't scratch this itch to record my stuff. Also that I hate it that when I have access to all my stuff everything I come up with sucks and I just feel like lounging around, and when I don't I suddenly have this creative outburst.
pic related. tomorrows people is the track name. one of the guys in this band is in king crimson, cant remember which.
>Join a band with really talented people
>They ONLY want to play phish
>They kick me out because I don't like phish
I didn't even use a proper DAW, just Audacity.
Basically cut up the samples until you get a clean loop on both. take the longer one and use timestretch to make it the same length as the other
wow that sounds spot on. feels weird actually hearing it sound in time. thank you so much for the help, i will definitely try that method.
now it doesnt really sound in time with the horn. what DAW are you using? because if its ableton no matter what I did it wouldnt work. i never thought of using Audacity like the anon i replied to above used.
I used audacity too, I just sped the drums down 10%
This happens to me but with rapping. As I start walking to the toilet I start on an improv flow, heavy into the wordply while prairie dogging and by the time that wave of relief washes over I forget what I was saying.
>I dare you to find a worse one
okay! did you know that thanks to western music temperament, a standard guitar neck will never, ever, EVER be remotely in tune?
Barre the third fret, play a G chord and then a C. The C chord will sound like shit, so you flatten your B string-- and voila, now the G chord sounds like shit! on and on forever, and there's no easy cheap way around it
>tfw bass player
>haven't played with anyone in the two years since High School
>get worse everyday
>try to practice, but bass is boring without other members
>open up daw
>put down a beat
>tweak every sound and add effects until it sounds cool
>add some samples from my sample library
>fuck the shit out of the samples
>8 bars so far
>sounds pretty good
>slow down the entire song to 66bpm
>listen to the loop over and over again
>fuck up the samples and beat even more
>still sounds too conventional
>fuck it up all the way
>woah this shit is blowin my mind
>save loop as wav file
>go to bed
>listen too it in the morning
>tfw its just vapor merzbow inch nails again
>repeat again for 10 years and never release any because shame
Exactly easy or cheap way but there is a way
Well if your practice routine is about kissing your bandmates asses then no wondrr you cant play. No ones fault but your own
>written a bunch of stuff I think is maybe decent
>haven't recorded anything
>changing meds a lot
>afraid I'll go crazy or lose interest in music or destroy all my stuff before I can release it
Fucking tiny girly fucking wrists fuck shit fuck.
>Be me in highschool
>Only reason people talked to me was to help them during music periods cus i could play the piano
>End up doing all the work
>Knew they were only using me to get better grades.
>You will never cap off an album with a soaring vocal line
>Be friends with guitarist guy
>Positive dude, really good to be around
>Gets a band together in the last year
>Playing shows left and right
>Struggling to find my own music, he's always encouraging me but I just feel jealous
>They're playing at this real big place tonight
>Feel like shit since I'm in the same spot I was two years ago
I don't know what I agreed to go.
Me too man, I wish there was some way to mask your identity but it would just seem like a daft punk rip off
>/mu/ found a way
I don't want all the attention, I still want a private life and jb can't ever have that.
>after awhile get frustrated with apathy and try to force myself to write
>write nothing but garbage for a day or two
>completely give up
>truly stop caring
>when I stop caring I find inspiration
>make my best work so far
>artistically satisfied for a bit
>after a string of successful works get overarching satisfaction
>stop caring if I make music
>rinse and repeat
you know what I mean?
Unsure as to whether or not I would ever provide context for my music beyond just album art/videos.
Mystique surrounding a piece of musical work can be a really cool thing. You are free to interpret it in whatever you way you think is best - there is no interview butting in, or cheesy pictures of a band, or whatever.
Does anyone know what I mean? It's like the art becomes larger than life or something.
Like Spiderland when it was shrouded in mystery.
the lack of gimmicks can be as much a gimmick as any gimmick
with that in mind- I agree that the best choice is to put all your effort into the artistic content and none into the bs that surrounds it
probably the ones actually posting compositions.
yfw it's the bitter guy who posts nothing that makes it