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>tfw no one will hear your changeling song take shape in shadow time ;_;

GOTH/DARKWAVE, INDUSTRIAL, WITCH HOUSE, NEO-FOLK, DARK POST-PUNK, DARK SYNTHPOP (AND OTHER RELATED /DARKSHIT/) THREAD GENERAL
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Time for the classic 3-in-1 mashup!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IauSFFpBg5Q
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can anyone recommend /darkshit/ similar to thoushaltnot or seeming?
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>>48391571

bela lugosi's love will fucking tear you apart again
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--7bemJNeG4

>tfw jokingly call this band "Death to Jews" on the internet based on their /pol/shit imagery and philosophy
>tfw few people get the joke
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I've been really digging these guys and their pronounced edginess lately:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-Idrild_Xs
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>tfw adult mallgoth
>tfw have Celldweller and The Birthday Massacre playing in frequent rotation
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>Siouxsie Sioux

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvQkYfG2hsA
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbJva7DOSVo
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/darkshit/ threads are mah shit
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Always loved the fuck out of all versions of this song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDHqywS6un0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iypUpv9xelg

It's a dead man's party. Who could ask for more?
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nobody even mentioned joy division.
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>>48391949

>mashup of Joy Division/She Wants Revenge/Bauhaus posted
>NIN cover of Dead Souls posted

That is a great album though. I have the t-shirt of it. Though Closer is in many ways a more interesting album, /unpopular opinion.
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Have some Depeche Mode

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDlQKhdo2eQ
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I've become a huge AAIMON fanboy these days. Plenty of witch house influence but so much more than just that.
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Here's a pretty cool industrial artist I found on soundcloud. I really like his vibe.
https://soundcloud.com/fannsmusic/a-reason-to-wake
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How

do I goth?
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>>48392516

Do you mean the clothing style, music genre(s) or both?
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>>48392516
Dress in dark clothes, listen to industrial, go to the goth nights at your local nightclub
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>>48392516

See thread for music reference, see OP's pic for fashion reference
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>>48392535
Yes.

>>48392538
>local nightclub
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This is an embarrassingly pleb thread.

>>>/r/music
>>>/f/acebook
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>>48391531
Current 93 makes the best Industrial / Neofolk music.
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>>48392616
Obviously.
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>>48392538
>listen to industrial
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What Martial Industrial do you like?
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>>48391531
>INDUSTRIAL
KILL YOURSELVES THIS INSTANT.
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>>48392577

Music essentials:

>Goth: Christian Death, Sisters of Mercy, Bauhaus, Joy Division
>Darkwave: Clan of Xymox, The Last Dance, Bella Morte, ThouShaltNot, Ego Likeness, Cold Cave
>Industrial Rock: KMFDM, NIN
>EBM: Nitzer Ebb, Front 242, VNV Nation, Assemblage 23, Covenant
>Witch House: AAIMON, Salem


Clothing

>Hair: Dyed black or an unnatural color
>Jacket: Black leather jacket, black trenchcoat, or band hoodie of a well-known goth or industrial band
>Top: black band shirt or black button-up shirt
>Pants: Black jeans or other black pants, some people who dress goth really like to mix it up with bondage pants, leather pants, Beetlejuice-esque pinstriped slacks etc.
>Shoes: Black leather boots (typically lace-up) or black converse sneakers

>Other accessories: fishnet gloves, piercings, jewelry or neckties featuring "gothic" imagery

There are a bunch of variations on the style, including some (like "Corporate goth") which are actually modified to look socially acceptable but still identifiable as goth. /fa/ and 4chan in general thinks of goth style as /cringe/core, fedoracore, manchild etc. but fuck their opinions
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>>48392726

I quite like Emilie Autumn. Right up there with The Birthday Massacre and One-Eyed Doll as one of my favorite over-the-top mallgoth artists.
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Does Type O Negative count?
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>>48392701
>>48392681

>implying goth and industrial don't have a hugely overlapping fanbase
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>>48392825
Did they even consider themselves goth related? I thought goth kids latched onto them because of Bloody Kisses
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGN48S9otWo
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>>48392825

Yes! Metal but also definitely goth.
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Everyone shut the fuck up and WAR DANCE.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JUFdQ2p6Gg
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>>48392616

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kseiBNhNqwg
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>>48392825
twitching tongues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8h9x-fW7Ss
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>>48392538
>>48392577

goth-themed nightclub events are fun, and it's nice to know that there are events like that attracting other people into the same music

maybe less so if you're a music elitist who thinks of anything danceable or over the top as "entry level" or "pleb"
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any love for Ego Likeness here?

Gonna go see their guitarist's experimental-ambient side project Stoneburner live in a couple months
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can some on rec me more synthgoths like XYMOX?? pls
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>>48393112

Frozen Autumn has kind of a similar style

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChhXdUQkS7c
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>>48393112

I can give you plenty of darkwave/synth-goth recommendations, but most of them won't be similar to Xymox...
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How goth do you have to dress to be considered goth? Like, do you have to have black eyeliner and leather everything, or can you just wear dark jeans, a dark green military-esque jacket, and have some chains and accessories?
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>>48393003
There are no night clubs in my area, especially nothing goth.

Also, yeah, danceable music is plebeian as fuq,
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>>48393128
thanks
>>48393248
oh i like only the dark synths..
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>>48393274

This is kind of ambiguous, but to keep it short you can look gothic without going over the top 24/7 with eyeliner/fishnets/leather
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>>48393309

Dark synth/dark wave stuff:

>Cold Cave
>Beborn Beton
>London After Midnight
>The Cruxshadows
>The Birthday Massacre
>Bella Morte (their earlier albums)
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The vocalist is the one hot motherfucker.
Btw they are from France.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XImwQFU_YTA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u8uja7jvTM
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>>48393346
Thanks.
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qt goth girls lemmie get them digits
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>>48391667

Death in June are actually pretty decent. It's Boyd Rice who's the /pol/-tier weirdo in that subgenre imo
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>>48393420

There's a thread for that on /soc/ right now I believe
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Writ on Water - A Wingless King
I heard these guys on some college radio in Germany. I got their album on iTunes as I couldn't find it anywhere else. They're like a mix between goth and shoegaze, with some pop thrown in there. Here a tune: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFfU98uCQm8

If anyone is interested in the album I might still have it somewhere and I can upload it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1cRGVaJF7Y

1. Lock the target
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I always wondered how goths see people from other "dark" subcultures/fans of a certain musical genre.
For example, what are your views on Noise, Dark Ambient, Neoclassical Darkwave and Black Metal?
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saw this band play the other night.
the bassist is a qt
http://healers.bandcamp.com/
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>>48392825

TFW listening to October Rust for nostalgia right now and it still sounds good.
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>>48393455

>tfw no qt goth gf
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So, what does /darkshit/ think is the worst gothic subtype. I'd probably have to say cybergoths, EBM is shit and they look like idiots.
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what is some good coldwave or shit similiar to Asylum Party, Coldreams, and 17 seconds era of The Cure.
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>>48396197

>EBM is shit

Gonna disagree with you on this one, unless you're talking about stuff "hellektro" stuff like Suicide Commando and Noisuf-X. If you're talking about VNV Nation and Assemblage 23, that's actually decent synthpop/futurepop stuff imo.

I remember one of my best friends in high school dressed cybergoth a lot. He used to wear orange or blue camo pants every day and wore goggles on his forehead. It's an interesting style but one of the harder appearances to pull off.
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>>48396197

>the worst gothic subtype

Neo-folk and Noise fans with a hard-on for Nazi/Fascist imagery, especially the ones who also buy into the ideology. Typically not goths thankfully though you do sometimes see some overlap.

I used to say emo/goth hybrids are a close second because I was on the "emo sucks" bandwagon but recently I've actually come to like that blend of styles and subcultures.
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Do you guys like blvck ceiling? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONjesT18bVQ
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>>48393711

>Noise, Dark Ambient, Neoclassical Darkwave

A lot of that falls under the /darkshit/ umbrella. Like for example if you're talking about neoclassical darkwave like Saltillo.

Black Metal is kind of its own thing. It's not my favorite genre but I don't hate it. It is a touch more in-your-face and edgier than /gothshit/ or /darkshit/ in some of its themes, which could be seen as obnoxious, but the music itself isn't bad.
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>>48396548

More witch house plz :3
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Anyone has an essentials chart of Dark Ambient? Or some recs on where to start? I have heard only By the Throat and want to explore the genre
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>AAIMON + 3TEETH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I1GX3Gk1zY

>NIN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDhbdRGaCmg

>Gary Numan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8579wjzQHEk

>Cyanotic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFC7apJ6LKY

>Rabbit Junk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr1Y8GVByR4
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>>48391571

this is too good
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>>48393711
Well I can tell you tat there's probably a lot of bleed over between the scenes, I for one have /noise/ and /metal/ open at the moment.
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>>48396548

YES!!! :D
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Favorite synthpop angst theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTTwlAT_AwU
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>>48393711
As a noise fan I see goths as sorta poserish but as a /darkshit/ fan I see noise as a genre for weirdos and social outcasts for example a /darkshit/ artist has never asked for my nude selfies in exchange for a cassette
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>>48391685

>pronounced edginess

I feel like 3Teeth are a little tongue-in-cheek and self-conscious about their "edgy" lyrics and image. Maybe not quite to the extent of KMFDM-style self-parody but that attitude is still present.
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Thank my lucky stars this is becoming a thing on /mu/ now! Second goth thread I've seen this week.
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>>48397522

The "dark" genres are neglected a good bit by /mu/, probably because a. Those genres don't usually get a write-up in Pitchfork or similar with a couple of exceptions and 2. Those genres are auto-dismissed as "edgy teen/mallgoth shit" (not gonna lie, though, I quite like mallgoth) or not-to-be-taken-seriously by the music elitists that /mu/tants often fancy themselves
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>>48397656
How goth is "Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima"?
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>>48391775
oh dear, you're quite a character aren't you
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why are all their other albums shit /mu/?
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>>48397901

>Catastrophe Ballet
>Shit

To differ I do beg
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Polish Slug - Demos 2014
>local to cincinnati, gothic, darkwave, free music, ramones cover, whatever
http://polishslug.bandcamp.com/
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>>48397776
What are you, an idiot?
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I'm so glad /edgy/ is a thing now

what else sounds like early Death In June with the murky, post-punky folk sound?
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Here's a classic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9g0f-YT9f4
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>>48398042
Y
e
s
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Now, answer the question.
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Skippy Puppy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS-gGYaA8F0
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>>48398796

best south park minor characters
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>>48392789

>/fa/ and 4chan in general thinks of goth style as /cringe/core, fedoracore, manchild etc. but fuck their opinions

this too fucking much
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>>48392789
>/fa/ and 4chan in general thinks of goth style as /cringe/core
You act like those are the only places that don't. Everyone does. It's like a big in-joke, where everybody both the goths are in on it.
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>>48397776
Not really Goth, but I'm pretty sure since it's basically avant-garde noisy stuf it would fall under /darkshit/
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>>48393128

The Frozen Autumn is ridiculously underrated/underlooked
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anyone got any recs for good playful tongue in cheek death rock or psychobilly?
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>>48392789
>/fa/ and 4chan in general

its everybody in general m8
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>>48401334
I've been listening to the Quakes lately.
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I love darkwave and specialty Gothic clothing stores are a(n admittedly overpriced) goldmine for me.

Thanks for this thread, OP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1AD-vozeCg
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More like this ya?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLn0fXxIMDs
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>Faith and the Muse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NaWMH0CrRU
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I've been listening to older 4AD stuff a bunch lately and have really been digging Dead Can Dance, Cocteau Twins, and This Mortal Coil. Any reccs in that area? (doesn't have to be on 4AD)
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>>48402756
up for something gayer?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofwxBYFvdGg
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>>48393939
I came to America with the promise of a goth gf. Why don't I have one yet?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsTjGWs2vx4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAB4BP7rtkc

>>48392516
http://www.gothic-charm-school.com/

It's been a while since I've even thought of this website.
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>>48402756
>>48402843
also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqKDhmR8l1M
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>>48402843
I already listen to Coil and DiJ, so gay doesn't even matter. This is cool.
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>>48402893

I love the Lady of the Manners!

Her persona is ridiculously charming in a dramatic, over the top kind of way. I'd love to meet people with that kind of personality in real life.
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>>48402950
I have met people like that! They're a pleasure to be around if they're not fat or ugly!
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>>48403043

>if they're not fat or ugly

I'm not one for body-shaming so things like that don't typically bother me

I do have a lot of friends in the gothic scene, having been a regular at darkwave/industrial shows and clubs once upon a time, but I find that the gothic charm school style of dialogue and attitude is a bit rare even amongst that crowd
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Has there been any good witch house in 2014?
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>>48403273
...good? I thought witch house was an ironic meme genre like vaporwave. Are there actually good albums?
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>>48403443

Witch House is a name ascribed to a genre of music that emerged from a blend of different influences in the late 00s/early 10s.

/mu/ only treated it ironically because /mu/core hipsters don't want to confess to liking a genre that isn't Pitchfork-approved or /mu/-approved "unironically." They treated it as a joke for a while because they thought it was too over the top to be taken seriously. After they got bored with it it found a serious and very unironic place in the hearts and minds of goths and fans of gothy/dark genres.
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>>48403443
There are good albums from both of those genres actually. What have you been listening to?
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>>48403443
ignorance is bliss
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>>48403443

elitists and people unaware of how to genuinely appreciate a genre love to perceive media as "ironic" that actually isn't
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I love these guys. It's a real shame they broke up. Synthy/Romantic gothic metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPHwPxOv_J4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llkFCi3Q8Y8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxaLhlkz_xQ
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No way there are goth threads now? Last time I frequented the board was when that Tourist tripfag shitted up everything all the time and constant circlejerking over Burzum.
I dont even know why I came to the board. Goth senses?
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>>48405388

You're welcome ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XyELyu18NI
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>>48405388
Speaking of Burzum, did you know that apparently The Cure and Dead Can Dance are two of Varg's favorite bands? I wouldn't be surprised if gothic music was actually a pretty big influence on BM, despite how different they sound and how much BM fans would probably want to deny it.
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>>48405506
The Celtic Frost frontman is a self-proclaimed fan of bands like Christian Death, Bauhaus or Siouxsie and the Banshees.
Monumentum has ties with the extreme metal scene but their music sounded like a hybrid of ethereal, Dead Can Dance-esque neoclassical/world fusion and doom metal.
Bands like Moonspell or Theatres des Vampires have tried (and succeeded IMO) to mix gothic rock with black metal.
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God I love this style of gothic rock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iTwZwNyztM
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>>48405664

>Theatres des Vampires

They're even cheesier than the average mallgoth band, but... the gimmick actually kinda works
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>>48405506
Darkthrone covered Siouxsie and the Banshees some time.
Carpathian Forest covered The Cure.
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>>48405691
They're so bad than they're good. I actually like them a lot.
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>>48402756
Discovered this band recently, they might appeal to you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y17Uan4Ks8I
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>>48393570
this is pretty good.
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Some Industrial Rock:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XrO37CAgo8

I actually have their best-of album on CD iirc
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>>48401334
The legendary shack*shakers
The Koffin kats
The horrorpops
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>non-anglo goth music
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