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Ameteur music production thread?
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>>48174015
Tips on triphop production? I can't get drums like Nujabes or Fat Jon. Any tips on trip-hop/lofi drums? Any good free drum kits? thanks
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>>48174015
bump
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>>48174110

use swing, use dirty samples, bang shit with a condenser mic near what you're banging, google for some drum kits, quit being lazy. you can't find shit and you want to be a producer. i'm not saying making a beat is the hardest thing in the world but if you can't teach yourself how to fish it's going to seem like it for you.
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Bump for the thread.

>>48174110
Buy an MPC or an MPD on ebay (I have an MPD24, it's awesome and cheap). Search for some free drums or torrent hip hop packs. Load them into a sampler (or the MPC) and get a groove going on, record it and don't quantize.

Saturate drums or add light distortion, compress and side-chain random stuff. It's not hard to figure out.
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>>48174015
what's the best DAW to download? I'm torn between FL Studio and Ableton
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>>48175140
I'm biased to Ableton but to be honest it was confusing as fuck so I didn't start using it until later on.

I'd say start with FL and move on if you need to.
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>>48175119
diff guy, what does saturation do exactly? and i plan on getting 26 soon, how are the pads?
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>>48176410
Saturation is a type of harmonic distortion caused by analog equipment. Its purpose is strengthening frequencies across the board on a signal, making it more prominent in the final mix without raising the volume too much.
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I need a good piano vst on tpb someone help please
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>>48175181
do you have any tips for switching over from Fl to ableton. I've used fl for 3 years, I've made a few songs in ableton, it's has a warmer sound but I'm just not used to it yet.
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>>48177049
Kontakt + any of the numerous Kontakt formatted piano samples
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>>48177183
Anything else, I've been through kontakt and it never worked
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>>48176646
teach me moar?
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>>48175119
Tyler?
>>48174110
Layer your drums you lazy fuck. search urban fire drums
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>>48177439
This is what it sounds like in practice. The first four crashes are dry and the second four crashes are running through two saturators.
https://soundcloud.com/hollywisemedia/dkasfdflas/s-LoWmu
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>>48174110
I watched a video on how to get j dilla type drums but I think nujabes does the same thing. go to the piano roll and start the snare just a tad before the line starts. gives it a certain type of homemade mpc type groove.
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I produce dark synthwave stuff that sounds like an 80s sci-fi horror movie soundtrack using the Korg Gadget app for iPad.

I didn't get an iPad to do music production but I was surprised as hell at the amount of quality music apps, especially considering how inexpensive they are compared to desktop music software.

You could compose/record an entire album using just an iPad. It's crazy.
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>>48177784
>>48177587
>>48175119
>>48174708
Thanks very much guys. THANKS!!
Also check out pic related. Nujabes mixtape. It's awesome
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>>48177610
Dank lesson bruv
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Composing music is very frustrating for me. I can pick a scale come up with some melodies but said melodies are not cohesive to make things worse I can not come up with a harmony or bass that goes with the melodies

I have been doing ear training but this is also frustrating as hell

Any tips?
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>>48178476
keep doing it. you'll get it.
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>>48178487
Thanks, will do.

Just realized that I sound like those guys over /ic/ who say that they keep drawing and drawing but do not improve.

It baffled me but music made me feel more empathy towards them
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>>48178870
don't sweat it. it's a reasonable question, but the truth is, the answer is just simply, just keep at it..
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>>48175140
Cubase 5/6 is the professional shit. FL Studio 11 is passable (and I still use it)
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What do you think /mu/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGbO8UHb7rs
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>>48181053
Very nice!
Tidy production
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>>48181075
there's a whole lot more on the channel.
feel free to get downloads here:
http://nsfhiphop.bandcamp.com/
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Does anyone know any AC powered USB hubs that could support powering a keyboard, Launchpad and other musical stuff? I don't want to dry out my motherboard's power.

>>48177049
EZKeys is my favorite one right now. If you use Reason, get the Reason piano refill. If you use Kontakt use Alicia's Keys but I personally hate it because it has some glitches in its programming.

>>48174110
http://www.mediafire.com/download/csplaxey8avus6a/The_Machine_A-E.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/download/nkc72701ous8t8c/The_Machine_F-O.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/download/171x74qsa9bt725/The_Machine_P-R.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/download/tiv0fei3qpjrpb8/The_Machine_S-Z.zip
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i just started using REAPER

its confusing but i like it

no bullshit plugins that i will never use and nice clean interface
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>>48174015
https://soundcloud.com/haunted_refuge

this was recorded using no hardware (other than the recording interface)
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>>48181787
I've been trying to do the same thing except I sometimes don't even use my interface. It sounds good when you tame the noise.
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Where can you get samples aside from the classic sampling off records?
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>>48181634
>EZKeys
thanks but I'm on a PC
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>>48181901
It's available on Mac OS X. There's also a bunch of other stuff avaliable for it like Rhodes and CP-80 packs.
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>>48181917
guess I'm stuck with 'grand piano' preset on Ableton
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>>48181894
Vengeance ;^)
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>>48181937
Find a torrent. Nobody should be subjected to that.

>>48181894
Literally anywhere. I've sampled YouTube, Efukt and used my phone to sample a train station. You just have to have an idea of what you're going to sample. Or you just be like >>48181952
and top the Beatport charts.
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>>48181973
I can't! I've tried a few that don't work, its impossible I'm tearing my hair out over it, especially becasue its the only instrument I'm using
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/9cmoqmodgy6vkr3/2014.07.08.mp3
Any feedback is appreciated
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>>48182002
Fuck, man. I don't know. I guess use a Soundfont or Kontakt stuff. Try the Brunswick piano shit for Kontakt or Alicia's Keys.
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>>48178870
keep working hard every day, you will not improve unless you are constantly working.
we are all racing up the same mountain, every time you stop to catch your breath the rest of us are still working hard and still moving forward.
the reality of the situation is only a few of us will make it, before wasting your life on something you don't take seriously, you should ask yourself, do i have what it takes?
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>>48181973
lol, what video did you sample from efukt?
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>>48182133
The rap introduction in"Pocahontas Takes A Shit" and the transition music in "Porn Scenes Worthy of an Oscar."
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been learning a good bit recently about improving my sounds and production quality

if you guys could have a listen and tell me what i still need to improve on that would be great

https://soundcloud.com/huntr33/its-time-huntr
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>>48182178
songwriting

most importantly, however, know your audience, people like us, that listen to music everyday of our lives and view it as an art form, would be sick and tired by the generic one dimensional approach to songwriting, however normalfags in a club setting may still enjoy it.
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Just finished up with this.
https://soundcloud.com/inmindmusic/np_7-11-14
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>>48182391

to be fair people in a club i think would understand this music more than a lot of you guys, doesnt seem to be a huge fanbase for deep house on here

would you expand on what you just said about song writing?
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i think there should be a rule about posting soundclouds in these threads.
to help avoid shit like this >>48182485

or maybe we could all use vocaroo or something, that would mean less temptation for these idiots to promote themselves.


>>48182539
we here at /mu/ consider music to be an art form. some music may be well made but lacks any kind of innovation, when something lacks innovation it is merely imitation.
but i'm getting off track, you need to improve your ability to write captivating music.
key components of widely accepted "good" songwriting (aka critically acclaimed) would be stuff like eccentricity, flair, intricacy, complexity, etc.
all of this adds depth to your music, if you can apply all this AND still manage to convey emotion, then you are on to a winner.
people get attached to music that effects them, try creating something that conveys extreme sadness of the other way and make something happy. the point of this is to change your state of mind when you approach songwriting and allow you to create something that isn't a soulless exercise in monotony.
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>>48182837
Oh, shit. I forgot to add to give opinions. Not being sarcastic either. I don't usually post SoundCloud shit to promote myself and didn't mean to pass off like that.
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>>48181937
Piano sounds: Google around, or harden up and buy a nice sample pack

http://www.soundsonline.com/Pianos
http://www.jvxp.com/download/patches/piano.html
http://www.kvraudio.com/product/piano-one-by-sound-magic/downloads
http://www.supremepiano.com/product/piano1.html
http://www.productionvoices.com/
http://www.productiongrand.com/
http://www.acoustica.com/pianissimo/
http://www.rspeaudio.com/Ultimate-Sound-Bank-Grand-Piano-Collection-p/ult-grnd-piano-collection.htm
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>>48182837

ok thanks, obviously im not trying to make completely un emotional music, it is quite complex in some parts and it does have feeling to me and some other people, its maybe just not your thing, but anyway ive taken what youve said on board and will try give my next songs even more feeling and emotion
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>>48182932
drums are downright awful, completely uninspired. the samples are not offensive but could be much more interesting. everything feels quantised. song structure isn't even close to being captivating.

unless your goal is to make inoffensive safe completely generic pop music, i would start over.

those are my opinions.
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>>48183147
The song structure is kind of just laid out as it was recorded. I'll be going back to see what I can do with it.
I don't know about making the drums sound more humanized but I'll see what I can do.
This was meant to be pop. Hopefully I can get the generic sound out of it by the time I'm done with it.
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>>48183086
thanks for not getting too offended. create whatever kind of music you want, express yourself.
its just... everything about your track is so painfully obvious... the generic sample offends me the most. track is even named after it, its difficult to be less inspired. your music isn't deep and it doesn't necessarily need to be, but god damn it is fucking boring. get out of your comfort zone, i think you should try expanding your music taste.
ps: sometimes its good to have a concept before you start writing, your track feels like the opposite of this.

again please don't be offended by anything i say.
i'm doing my best to give useful advice despite my sub-par grasp of language.
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>>48182124
shut the fuck up you faggot
not everyone is in it to "get big" or "get famous"
and usually those are the ones that do
i don't disagree with the working hard part but don't tell people they are wasting their life if they are deciding to take up a hobby with their recreational time, a lot of people could take you seriously and there's time they could regret they didn't "waste"
i make music for the sake of making music, not to get famous and i enjoy knowing the technicalities of sound engineering to help me express myself better, i'm sure im not the only one
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>>48183487

ok thanks but you are going a bit over board. My music is definitely not boring and i enjoy it and apart from you i have got nothing but good feedback so far, so i think i will keep doing what i am doing

i couldnt disagree more with everything you are saying now

could you link your music because im now interested to see if you are all talk
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>>48183258
the drum sounds are shit, remove them.
the patterns are worryingly basic, especially if you are honest about recording those lovely samples

remember to challenge the listener, not hold his/her hand, then it will naturally become less generic
try to take the listener on a journey, build up to something, be unexpected!
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>>48182485
reminds me of this song strangely
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMGgi4VhfQo
>>48183552
not him but it is pretty cliche and repetitive
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I am a complete noob, please rate my <2minute shitty productions, please.

I need passion and tips, I'm just messing around on cubase for the moment really

https://soundcloud.com/boro-van-hout/sets/stuff
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https://soundcloud.com/robscire
did everything in fl studio
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>>48183732
Tips: Spend more than 1 minutes on it.

A finished minute worth of music should take a total time of about ~4 hours.
The better you get, the faster you will be
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>>48183552
>"thanks for not getting too offended"
>proceeds to get offended

may i remind you, that you purposely came to this thread looking for advice on becoming a better artist.

the sample "its time" what is it purpose? time to party? it not exactly going to have someone relentlessly pondering it at 4am unable to sleep is it? your music lacks complex emotional or philosophical ideas, that means when you post it somewhere like /mu/ you're going to have insufferable artfags like myself deconstructing it, and devaluing it due to the lack of thought put into it, i'm sorry but its inevitable.

>could you link your music because im now interested to see if you are all talk
i'm not looking for any advice atm and i'm not interested in promotion until i have a complete project, sorry but the answer is no.
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>>48183801
>A finished minute worth of music should take a total time of about ~4 hours.
That's already what's happening bro, it's one of the first times I'm even touching these programs

rip me
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>>48183825
Nah its all practice m8, don't worry too much about things sounding good, just experiment and make shit up. Once you have the basics of using the DAW down, then you can worry about getting the best production out of it
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>>48183932
DAW?
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>>48183969
Digital Audio Workstation.
"music program" Essentially
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(Hardwarefags) get in here
>>48183988
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Can anyone tell me what kind of drm, if any, Renoise has?
I'm thinking about buying it, but i'm against that kind of practice.
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>>48184357
I have a cracked version of it, if you want to try it over the demo span. Not sure what you mean by drm though. Its like octamed but more liquid and advanced.
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>>48184441
DRM as in have to connect to the internet to use it/tied to a personal account or so on.
And the demo is pretty good sans export feature, so I'm good.
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Anons of this imageboard. i need your help. I'm new on computer made music, i'm hoping to do disco house music. Any sampling tips? Anything could help. and i'm using ableton and flstudio.
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