[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vip /vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y ] [Search | Home]
4Archive logo
Serious question: is there another hip-hop...
If images are not shown try to refresh the page. If you like this website, please disable any AdBlock software!

You are currently reading a thread in /mu/ - Music

Thread replies: 122
Thread images: 13
File: 41CQRWK0JBL.jpg (30 KB, 300x300) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
41CQRWK0JBL.jpg
30 KB, 300x300
Serious question: is there another hip-hop artist who composes beats anywhere near Kanye's level?
>>
Young Chop
>>
Madlib is beyond Kanye's level
>>
>>47189572
Pete Rock, Madlib, Q-Tip, J Dilla, RZA, El-P, DJ Premier to name a few. All better than Kanye imo.
>>
>>47189658
>>47191246
*tips fedora*
>>
The Bomb Squad, 40, early TImbaland
>>
>>47191913
This has just become a one size fits all response for whenever you disagree with someone.
>>
>>47191913
you're a fucking lame-o i hope you know that

like i understood the whole fedora comment but now it just means "i don't agree"
>>
>>47189572
Pretty much everyone lol. Kanye's best beats of aren't even produced by him, instead they go to guys like Common.
>>
>Electronic music is crap and repetitive and made on computers so it's not real music
>Doesn't Kanye make teh good beats?

/mu/ in a nutshell
>>
>>47192014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvhOVkH-2z4

this is kanye's best beat imo
>>
>>47192065
GARBAGE ASS TASTE
>>
>>47192065
So many nights I was fucked up listening to this song.
STRAIGHT OFF THE BLOCK WIT IT
This is actually a really good song, I dont care what /mu/ says.
>>
>>47192194
you're worthless
>>47192258
wait deezle lemme just get the 808

as i hit the killswitch

now that's how you let the beat build beeeeeech
>>
tyler the creator :^)
>>
>>47191246
>>47189658
fedora as fuck
>>
>>47192065
Wow this is complete garbage
>>
>>47189572
Just Blaze would be the closest comparison
DJ Paul and Juicy J were revolutionary
>>
The worst part about being a Kanye fan is when you see delusional people shit on other artists you like in an attempt to make Kanye seem better than he is
>>
>>47192688
tru
>>
>>47192065
I like Kanye but that beat is awful. Out of the few of his collabs I've heard, this is my favorite and one of my favorite beats of his. It also takes me back so hard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSYDbpOuYUE
>>
>>47189572
Even Dilla was better. Terrible question.
>>
>>47192763
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaIq-RAYK8M
>best Kanye beat
>he barely did anything to it
>>
>>47192763
This is also one of my favorite kanye beats.
>>
most underrated and almost always forgotten kanye beat coming through
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPFW1RWBFd8
>>
>>47192922
i just listened to this like 5 minutes ago, shit was so cash
>>
This has always been my favorite Kanye beat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba-6niOoR_U

Pretty much everything on LR was immaculately produced
>>
>>47192811
Sure is summer in here. This post is the only correct answer.
>>
>>47192977
So Dilla is good, so is Kanye

Why do you want to prove yourself as a non-fanboy when you are wearing that shitty username

You're fucking disappointing, just drop the trip already
>>
I wasn't aware that re-purposing stolen samples constitutes "composing"
>>
File: phone throw.gif (1 MB, 245x170) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
phone throw.gif
1 MB, 245x170
>>47193096
>>
>>47193096
you need to get a hold of a dictionary as soon as possible then
>>
>>47193135
I do, actually
>>
>>47193087
What's your problem man?

Dilla was incredibly talented, one of those virtuoso-type musicians who seem to have been born to create music. Undoubtedly, Kanye is a great producer, but he tends to rely on other artists to provide him with material to augment/alter to achieve his final product. The person who posted this is probably trolling, but to suggest that Kanye is the greatest producer in hip-hop is kind of disrespectful to the greats, like Dilla.
>>
>>47193143
>I do get a hold on a dictionary
>>
>>47193152
>you need to
>I do
>I do need to

Baka.
>>
>>47193157
i'm sorry based friendo but your post didn't make sense
>>
>>47191246
This is right though
>>
In addition to the aforementioned:

Mobb Deep, Mos Def, Digable Planets, The Bomb Squad, J-Swift, Clams Casino, Yung Gud, Friendzone, Yung Sherman, Suicideyear, MF DOOM, Blue Sky Black Death, Lil Ugly Mane
>>
>>47193193
dude

i like friendzone and a bunch of those producers but

lol
>>
>>47192763
I don't get why he's singing the hook. Did kanye not want to be in the video?
>>
>no Pimp C
fuck you simps doing
>>
>>47193211

Every single one is leagues better than Kanye.
>>
>>47191246
thanks you saved me time
>>
Eminem
>>
>>47191246
no but seriously
>>
Snowgoons
Whoever does Ka's stuff
Yung Gud
>>
Gang Starr
Mc Solaar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKCkgyZ78T4
>>
>>47193127
I want to know/see whatever this is from
>>
>>47193348
you need to relisten through Kanye's discog if you seriously believe that. Half of these guys don't even have enough material to be considered. They also pretty much all just have one sound. Kanye has made all sorts of beats that are all quality.
>>
>>47191913
>>47192436
>>
>m-muh production

Fuck off you memerap faggots.
>>
>>47194250
Has anyone ever found this joke funny?
>>
>>47194224
>Half of these guys don't even have enough material to be considered
quantity =/= quality
>They also pretty much all just have one sound
variety =/= quality
>>
>>47189572
Pharrell, but if we're doing Price is Right rules then he doesn't count
>>
>caring about memerap
>>
File: CS1320339-02A-BIG.jpg (676 KB, 700x700) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
CS1320339-02A-BIG.jpg
676 KB, 700x700
Nightmares On Wax

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hrz0UHhTkU8

That production.
>>
>>47189572
>omg the beats are amazing xD

To answer your question though; the Tribes and Main Source
>>
>>47191913
I don't understand you kanye fags, does kanye really have to be the be all end all of music and rap period? Any time someone even suggests that kanye is not the best by a landside, the kanyefag butthurt begins to flow. I mean he really can't just be a "good" artist you guys like, he literally has to be THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME?
>>
>>47191913
>Rap
>Ever fedora
Fedora really is just a catch-all response now, isn't it?
>>
>ctrl-f
>no Organized Noize

seriously?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW-9eOPAWdA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dzwWOSwNY8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znttboYNrbY

also, not rap, but legendary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WEtxJ4-sh4
>>
for that matter, Outkast themselves have made better beats than Kanye on a number of occasions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NywdVBwzurU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ypg_B2gfvM
>>
I produce beats better than Kanye every time I go to the bathroom and take a shit.
>>
>>47189572
every memerapper sounds the same
all rap is memerap, the only "music" basketball-americans can do is memerap
kanye "talentless hack" west is on the same level as all memerappers because all rap is memerap and that's cheaper/inferior version of music because they can't into real music, they can't into singing
all they do is memerap because all blacks are too dumb to make actual music
>>
i am being 110% serious right now
viper the rapper
god i wish there were spoilers on /mu/
>>
>>47197581
i wish there was no /mu/
>>
>>47194202
catfish on mtv
>>
>>47197559
this is a serious question: Do you not get bored of shitposting on a music forum?
>>
>>47197670
are you not tired of having shit taste?

ounsite i am le god hurry up with my croissant amirite guise
>>
>>47191246
>>47191970
*laughs*

>>47191994
this. It's fucking pathetic, I know.

>>47193150
>Undoubtedly, Kanye is a great producer, but he tends to rely on other artists to provide him with material to augment/alter to achieve his final product.
To not collaborate with whomever you think will make the final product better means you're not doing your job as well as you can.

Kanye's beats to me are always way more interesting and memorable than Dilla's. To me Donuts is one of the most overrated hip hop albums.
>>
>>47193193
>The Bomb Squad

Their music has aged terribly.

>>47193348
okay I would love to hear you back up this opinion somehow.
>>
>>47196615
>le fedora early 90s jazz rap is better than everything now
stop pretending to like hip hop
>>
File: 220px-Bealbum.jpg (14 KB, 220x220) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
220px-Bealbum.jpg
14 KB, 220x220
>muh middle school days

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfUeLVTQVvM

man i was such a cool kid listening to this album on the bus
>>
Literally any instrumental hip hop artist
>>
>>47196768
just because a production team has made certain beats better than certain others of an artist doesn't make them a better artist.. Simon Says is my favourite beat of all time, but that doesn't make Pharoe a better producer than Premo
>>
>>47197985
kill yourself
>>
>>47198004
no u
>>
>>47198016
no, fuck YOU
>>
>>47191246
But this is objectively right.
All Kanye does it the exact sample of the songs. Only difference it he adds drum kicks and makes the vocals high pitched
>>
dj premier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXCo_lR3Pp0
>>
>>47198023
*unsheathes katana*
*tosses my fedora in the air*
u could have prevented this
*slices ur baka gaijin body with superior Japanese steel*
ur not fit for this world
*catches fedora and places it on my head like a gentleman*
hehehe
>>
>>47198028
>people on a music board who consider themselves music experts actually think this
>implying the actual digging to find said samples isn't half the skill
god when will moot make a /hh/ board so we can be rid of you morons
>>
any love for 9th wonder?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJaUd_ujx5Q&feature=kp
>>
File: rainforest ep.jpg (130 KB, 319x319) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
rainforest ep.jpg
130 KB, 319x319
clams casino, pic related is GOAT
>>
I think RZA is better.
>>
>>47198123
I wish he'd switch it up already. He's shown no type of progression as a producer for well over 2 decades. Not quite as bad as DJ Premier but he's getting there.
>>
>>47198076
>>47198076
>*unsheathes katana*
*swiftly pulls out throwing stars*
>*tosses my fedora in the air*
*do a 360 cape twirl*
>u could have prevented this
this is what you wanted
>*slices ur baka gaijin body with superior japanese steel*
*performs a matrix maneuver, dodges your weeb tactics*
>ur not fit for this world
*stares back with a grin*
>*catches fedora and places it on my head like a gentleman*
*immediately throws 2 throwing stars aimed directly at said fedora*
>hehehe
*fedora falls off head, torn to pieces by my euphoric throwing stars*
you may be a gentleman, but i am the supreme gentleman
*bows*
douzo yoroshiku
>>
>>47198141
I guess I must've been the only person to listen to that horrible mixtape RZA dropped a few weeks ago.
>>
File: roger checkm8.png (126 KB, 260x334) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
roger checkm8.png
126 KB, 260x334
>>47198076
>>47198154
>>
>>47196768
But Kanye has many beats as good as that

>Hey Mama
>Never Let You Down
>We Don't Care
>The New Workout Plan
>Two Words
>Through the Wire
>Addiction
>Heard Em Say
>Heart of the City (Jay Hyphen)
>Be (Common)
>The Food (Common)
>They Say (Common)
>Chi City (Common)
>We Major
>Celebration
>Gone
>Good Morning
>Homecoming
>Drunk and Hot Girls
>Everything I Am
>Welcome to Heartbreak
>Robocop
>The Cool (Lupe Fiasco)

It's like in the backlash and hate against his dickriders everyone has completely forgotten or ignored how many unique and and awesome beats Kanye has done
>>
>>47198028
While many of his most famous beats in the past have done that, you are totally ignorant to make that generalization.
>>
>>47198076
>>47198154
kek

>>47198141
he's great. Really influential but I'm gonna give it to Kanye
>>
So I finally listened to MBDTF and it was shit.

"Oh look at me I made a fool of myself at an awards show but I'm the victim holy shit look how many samples I can shove into this album!"

Die.
>>
>>47189572
Dilla, DJ Premier, DJ Shadow
>>
>>47198320
they're as good, but how can you claim they're better?
>>
>>47197948
I don't like most hip-hop, though.
>>
>>47196674
I'm a huge fan of hip hop in general but I do legitimately believe Kanye is the best producer in hip hop. I've just never heard anyone with the ability to make beats as consistently excellent as his are, I don't dislike a single beat on any of his albums and none of the ones he's worked on outside of his own albums.
But I liked Yeezus so feel free to disregard my opinion completely
>>
Flying Lotus
>>
>>47196724
TLC was pretty good for a woman's band
better than destiny child
>>
unironic answer of flatlander
>>
File: timba.jpg (56 KB, 520x455) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
timba.jpg
56 KB, 520x455
if we're talking mainstream
then pharell and timba
have been more influential than kanye in the last 15 years
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcIvIladNnQ
>>
underrated kanye beats?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-2KHxPsBEQ
>>
Thelonious Martin, Spaceghost Purp, Lex Luger
>>
>>47198431
He's honestly got the most unique source of samples that I'm aware of. Looking at DG on whosampled is entertaining. Kanye just uses soul music for the most part, besides a Daft Punk song, Can, and that Romanian song at the end of one of his.
>>
File: PieceOfStrange.jpg (105 KB, 500x514) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
PieceOfStrange.jpg
105 KB, 500x514
I remember this album blowing my mind and thinking Kno was the best producer since Primo
but his sound never really changed
>>
>>47189572
RZA, Primo, Madlib, Stoupe, Dre, the list goes on
>>
>>47198668
Dre was great originally but 2001 sounds generic by today's standards.
>>
>>47198693
Still D.R.E is timeless and The Next Episode, Forgot About Dre and The Message all have fantastic beats too. There's not a single track on 2001 that doesn't have a dope beat.
>>
File: 1381451672394.png (18 KB, 267x200) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1381451672394.png
18 KB, 267x200
>>47192058
>>
>>47198721
One of those Kanye claimed to have been originally inspired by. Oh, I remember, it's Xxplosive
>>
>>47198757
Yeah he sampled the drums on Xxplosive for when he made the beat for Get Your Mind Right Mami on Jay's Dynasty album
>>
>that 21st century schizoid man sample on power
still an amazing surprise to this day
do you think kanye actually listened to the whole in the court of the crimson king album? i'd love to hear him sample the court of the crimson king somehow.
>>
>>47198821
He at least claims to listen to buttloads of rock music.
>>
File: 1397656927430.jpg (59 KB, 525x650) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1397656927430.jpg
59 KB, 525x650
>>47198844
>mfw kanye rock album after the graduation sequel
pls don't be lil wayne
>>
>>47198844
oh yeah he's sampled Mike Oldfield, Crimson, Can, Emerson Lake and Palmer (I think) and a cool band called Mandrill

>>47196674
People on /mu/ say Kanyefags are like that way more often than Kanyefags are actually like that.
His resume commands respect >>47198180
>>
>>47192763
>that twista song
hng
>>
>>47191994
>>47192011
>>47194239
>>47196674
>>47196680
*tosses trilby*
>>
>>47192975
huh I never realized how amazing this song was before
>>
I'm the real gene, these other ones are all imposters.
>>
>>47199348
Good to know...
>>
>>47189572
I'm surprised Just Blaze hasnt been mentioned yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkwQbuAGLj4&feature=kp
>>
Just Blaze, Heatmakerz, Alchemist, 9th wonder
Thread replies: 122
Thread images: 13
Thread DB ID: 1120



[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vip /vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y] [Search | Home]

[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vip /vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y] [Search | Home]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the shown content originated from that site. This means that 4Archive shows their content, archived. If you need information for a Poster - contact them.
If a post contains personal/copyrighted/illegal content, then use the post's [Report] link! If a post is not removed within 24h contact me at [email protected] with the post's information.