ITT: God-tier Shoegaze and Dream Pop
Nothing too well-known or the obvious (MBV, Cocteau Twins, Slowdive)
Have been seeing this alot lately, turns out, its GREAT
>Nothing too well-known or the obvious.
Not sure where this falls with that.
It's not really Shoegaze but it's God-tier Dream Pop.
Craft Spells is fantastic
Captured Tracks is the go-to label for Dream Pop
My favorite shoegaze/dream pop group. Almost entirely instrumental, very electronic. Start with Quique.
>/mu/tant made shoegaze from the old skool
You are sooo fucking wrong. Shoegaze was a term made in the 80's when bands just made beautiful noise on stage and stared at the floor because either
1) because too many pedals / effects
2) music was so slow you couldn't dance to it
3) so drugged out
dream-pop is a term made a couple years ago for when pop musicians started using delay / reverb.
Just because /mu/ fags label it the samedoesn't mean it's the same thing
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I think he was trying to say that noise and pop are just two very different things. you'd hear one on the radio and you'd hear another on your highschool dropout friend's record player (referring to myself)
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Loved SPC ECO from the first song I heard from them
>God-tier Shoegaze and Dream Pop
>Nothing too well-known or the obvious
but all the god-tier shoegaze bands are well known/obvious.
some good ones are Moscow Olympics, The Naked Souls, and The Ecstasy of Saint Theresa
>but all the god-tier shoegaze bands are well known/obvious.
What planet are you smoking crack on?
Most people I know don't have the slightest fuckin' clue in all of hell what shoegaze is. Or dream Pop for that matter.
This. Shame about they're latest album though. Anyone got recs of something similar?
>Most people I know don't have the slightest fuckin' clue in all of hell what shoegaze is. Or dream Pop for that matter.
not well-known in that sense, but rather in terms of the genre. Like it or not the best shoegaze/dreampop bands are gonna be the "essential" ones i.e. MBV, Ride, Cocteau Twins etc. Sure there's some good bands that are more obscure/recent but there's barely anything that manages to distinguish itself in a genre where so many of the bands are virtually interchangeable.
>thinking a 25 year old album of mediocre pop songs drowned in "effects" and expensive production is the be in and be all of a genre
Listen to more music and try to be more open minded. Failing that I would suggest a new hobby; maybe something like accounting.
I didn't say anything about Loveless being the "be in and be all" of anything. I'm saying shoegaze was cool in the late 80's/early 90's when it was fresh and exciting but seriously, there has been almost nothing since like 1993 that has managed to do anything significant or invigorating for "shoegaze". All these bands like Whirr, Nothing and Beach House are just imitations of older bands that get trumpeted by the music press for the simple fact that they sound like those bands.
The Empty Estate EP is also pretty good, though it doesn't really sound anything like Gemini or Nocturne.
Pic related, another great. Most seem to like Treasure but I prefer this.
Again. Listen to more music. You are seeing a small pixel of a much larger picture. Flogging a dead horse and saying stuff like "Oh My, Shoegaze was only good in the late '80s and early '90s" just shows how ignorant and close minded you truly are.
You get a "plebeian" on the test.
Care to join me?
>"Oh My, Shoegaze was only good in the late '80s and early '90s"
I said it was best during that time, and after that it's mostly shitty. Learn to reading comprehension fucker.
To further the genre as a whole don't you think a band should have a relevant following of both fans and press?
Significant amount of fan following/media attention.
>To further the genre as a whole don't you think a band should have a relevant following of both fans and press?
not necessarily. a band can push a genre forward with a single album, none of which is dependent on having fans or a following/press.
Right, so we've established
>in order for a band to further a genre, they must be relevant
>for a band to be relevant, they must have some significant following from fans/press either during or after the release of their seminal album
now how many shoegaze bands from after, say, 1995, can we think of that applies here?
this my favorite MBV ripoff
Fucking wrong in ever way. A.R. Kane coined the term Dream Pop in 1988 before anyone knew what the fuck shoegaze was. Learn your history before you start making bullshit claims.
Anyways, without caring about the differences between the two, here are some recs:
The Ecstasy Of Saint Theresa
Blind Mr Jones
early Brian Jonestown Massacre
A Place To Bury Strangers
Those will get you started, then just dig from there.
I'd also like to add that dream pop and shoegaze aren't just the rock and pop flipsides of a coin. Shoegaze-centric rockists like >>47045505 tend not to see what kind of phenomena the two are in the big picture. Dream pop is a large umbrella with roots in experimental music, new wave, ethereal wave and whatnot and nowadays you can hear it in everything from specialized metal fusions and all sorts of electronic music to mainstream pop and indie rock. Dream pop was an important influence to the shoegaze scene alongside noise rock and alternative rock, and shoegaze as a sound is more specific kind of a fusion.
XO - Heart came out earlier this year and its pretty good. Whether or not it can match the shoegaze that came out last year, I can't tell as I've only really listened to it once.
check archive for link
Wow this is the most right thing I've read on /mu/ in a long time. It seems like nobody here as any idea what the fuck Dream Pop is most of the time. Good to see at least someone else knows what they're talking about.
What about noise-pop shoegaze?
Anything good come out lately in that vein?
I'm dying for something new along the lines of Jesus And Mary Chain, The Raveonettes or The Vandelles
also: Opinions on pic related?
What's some amazing japanese shoegaze like Kinoko Teikoku? They're pretty much my favorite band right now?
I love MASS OF THE FERMENTING DREGS, but Tokyo Shoegazer wasn't really to my liking
I guess just "twinkly", noisy stuff full of very catchy and obvious hooks and moments of pure bliss
Anyone who likes Treasure should hear this
>it's popular so I'm not into it
no you just told me to listen to more music because I don't like the same bands you like
no that's not the same thing. I don't exculsively listen to first wave shoegaze/dream pop, but I prefer it immensely over modern bands
Matt Mondanile's (Real Estate) solo project Ducktails. /mu/ is probably going to dig his older lower-fi stuff ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ6wChLpGDw ) over the newer,cheesier stuff (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsSmhf3ENvY). The music develops really nicely across the album.