ITT: God-tier Shoegaze and Dream Pop Nothing too well-known

but OP DIIV is well known and obvious

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Have been seeing this alot lately, turns out, its GREAT

>>47045113
shoegaze and dream-pop are two completely different things

>to here knows when, shoegaze
>golden haze, dreampop

>>47045481
Shoegaze and Dream Pop are just about the same. You have bands like Beach Fossils being labeled as Shoegaze smh

>>47045113
diiv is stinky ballsack for dumb nerds tho

>>47045155
Welcome to a /mu/ thread

>>47045505
Too bad it's like how Glam and Glam Metal are labeled the same- as in they're not at all the same, but they're labelled as such.

the swirlies

>>47045481

Even though they are different, OP was just asking for both. He wasn't saying they are the same thing.

I think /mu/ might know Asobi Seksu, but I'll mention them because I love their stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPmQ1OWt17Q

DIIV was in the new spiderman movie you pleb.

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>Nothing too well-known or the obvious.

Not sure where this falls with that.

It's not really Shoegaze but it's God-tier Dream Pop.

>>47045635
Definitely god-tier Dream Pop, I listen at least once a day

>>47045173
Definitely!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdjy9u7p1kQ

The ecstasy of saint theresa

>>47045613
Shit, really? Well in that case I'll delete all my 1000k diiv scrobbles and burn my tapes and records

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7TCYM-QYww

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc-F5VTBJyA

SPC ECO

>>47045173
this is shit whoever made this needs to kill themselves

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>>47045113
Craft Spells is fantastic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyCv_X0oe38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aUgPuIhfVY

Captured Tracks is the go-to label for Dream Pop

probably my favorite shoegaze song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU5PVFjsQG8

Miracle Fortress and Moscow Olympics are great stuff.

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My favorite shoegaze/dream pop group. Almost entirely instrumental, very electronic. Start with Quique.

>>47045635
gemini is the superior album

>>47046029
gemini bored me aside from a few tracks

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this EP is goat dreampop

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http://heavyghost.bandcamp.com/


>/mu/tant made shoegaze from the old skool

>>47045505
You are sooo fucking wrong. Shoegaze was a term made in the 80's when bands just made beautiful noise on stage and stared at the floor because either

1) because too many pedals / effects
or
2) music was so slow you couldn't dance to it
or
3) so drugged out

dream-pop is a term made a couple years ago for when pop musicians started using delay / reverb.

Just because /mu/ fags label it the samedoesn't mean it's the same thing

dreampop wasn't coined a few years ago. that term came before shoegaze I believe.

>>47046229
even if the term dream pop was "only made a couple of years ago", that doesn't mean the genre (which you have a very poor grasp of) hasn't been around for a long time

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Morpheme
infec t i o n
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6_lWyS_vYw

>>47046295
fuck genres

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>tfw the band is no more

>>47046295
I think he was trying to say that noise and pop are just two very different things. you'd hear one on the radio and you'd hear another on your highschool dropout friend's record player (referring to myself)

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C U R V E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kLsLnZkBQE

>>47046229
>Cocteau Twins made dream pop before the term existed

I fucking doubt it, dude

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjwDkuXLIys

>>47046029
no

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>>47045823

My nigga.

Loved SPC ECO from the first song I heard from them

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>>47045635
>>47045113
>>47045870

kill yourselves

>>47046355
>>47046081

good choices

>>47045113
>God-tier Shoegaze and Dream Pop
>Nothing too well-known or the obvious

but all the god-tier shoegaze bands are well known/obvious.

some good ones are Moscow Olympics, The Naked Souls, and The Ecstasy of Saint Theresa

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Does this count as Dream Pop?

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>>47046614
>but all the god-tier shoegaze bands are well known/obvious.
What planet are you smoking crack on?

Most people I know don't have the slightest fuckin' clue in all of hell what shoegaze is. Or dream Pop for that matter.

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This. Shame about they're latest album though. Anyone got recs of something similar?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbk8mCtGjZw

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>>47046655
>>47046655
>Most people I know don't have the slightest fuckin' clue in all of hell what shoegaze is. Or dream Pop for that matter.
not well-known in that sense, but rather in terms of the genre. Like it or not the best shoegaze/dreampop bands are gonna be the "essential" ones i.e. MBV, Ride, Cocteau Twins etc. Sure there's some good bands that are more obscure/recent but there's barely anything that manages to distinguish itself in a genre where so many of the bands are virtually interchangeable.

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>>47046806
>MBV fans
>thinking a 25 year old album of mediocre pop songs drowned in "effects" and expensive production is the be in and be all of a genre


Listen to more music and try to be more open minded. Failing that I would suggest a new hobby; maybe something like accounting.

>>47046769
I like it

Radio Dept. - Lesser Matters

>>47046586
>you will never direct a high school coming of age story where the protagonist and his love interest have their first emotional dance together set to "What's"

feels bad man

>>47046858
I didn't say anything about Loveless being the "be in and be all" of anything. I'm saying shoegaze was cool in the late 80's/early 90's when it was fresh and exciting but seriously, there has been almost nothing since like 1993 that has managed to do anything significant or invigorating for "shoegaze". All these bands like Whirr, Nothing and Beach House are just imitations of older bands that get trumpeted by the music press for the simple fact that they sound like those bands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftMC_LMwctQ

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>>47045635
The Empty Estate EP is also pretty good, though it doesn't really sound anything like Gemini or Nocturne.

Pic related, another great. Most seem to like Treasure but I prefer this.

>>47047034
were you born in the wrong generation?

>>47045113
I'm not going to ctrl + f, but if Medicine hasn't been mentioned in this thread, well it indicates /mu/'s poor taste.

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>>47047034
Again. Listen to more music. You are seeing a small pixel of a much larger picture. Flogging a dead horse and saying stuff like "Oh My, Shoegaze was only good in the late '80s and early '90s" just shows how ignorant and close minded you truly are.

You get a "plebeian" on the test.

>>47045173
this fuckin rules
thanks anon

>>47047081
dont have anything to say i see.

if you think shoegaze is still cool and relevant, then you're no better than a dadrocker.

>>47047099
does it need to be relevant though?

>>47047099
what do you mean by relevant?

to me it's relevant because it sounds good and i like to listen to it

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>>47046586

>kill yourself

Care to join me?

>>47047096
>"Oh My, Shoegaze was only good in the late '80s and early '90s"
I said it was best during that time, and after that it's mostly shitty. Learn to reading comprehension fucker.

>>47047108
To further the genre as a whole don't you think a band should have a relevant following of both fans and press?

>>47047152
Significant amount of fan following/media attention.

>>47047247
>To further the genre as a whole don't you think a band should have a relevant following of both fans and press?

not necessarily. a band can push a genre forward with a single album, none of which is dependent on having fans or a following/press.

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ITT: gay

shoegaze is bad

>>47047273
Okay but after they released that album there should be some reaction by the public right? Or at least years later a wave of bands that cite that album as an influence?

>>47047097
No prob m8

>>47047283
Right, so we've established
>in order for a band to further a genre, they must be relevant
>for a band to be relevant, they must have some significant following from fans/press either during or after the release of their seminal album

now how many shoegaze bands from after, say, 1995, can we think of that applies here?

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this my favorite MBV ripoff

http://fleetingjoys1.bandcamp.com/album/despondent-transponder

>>47046229

Fucking wrong in ever way. A.R. Kane coined the term Dream Pop in 1988 before anyone knew what the fuck shoegaze was. Learn your history before you start making bullshit claims.

Anyways, without caring about the differences between the two, here are some recs:
Lovesliescrushing
Swirlies
The Ecstasy Of Saint Theresa
Blind Mr Jones
Medicine
Sweet Trip
Drop Nineteens
A.R. Kane
Starflyer 59
early Brian Jonestown Massacre
A Place To Bury Strangers
Whirr
Luna
Moose
Asobi Seksu
Colfax Abbey
Julee Cruz
Chapterhouse
Astrobrite
Teenage Filmstars
Pasteboard

Those will get you started, then just dig from there.

>>47047247
>Significant amount of fan following/media attention.
yeah that's kind of the opposite of the stuff im into

shoegaze= MBV

dreampop= 'real human bean"

>>47047247
And I told you in logical and comprehensible terms that you're blatantly fucking wrong.

>>47047247
>and after that it's mostly shitty
so you said the same thing, basically

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>>47047389

>>47047389
This.

I'd also like to add that dream pop and shoegaze aren't just the rock and pop flipsides of a coin. Shoegaze-centric rockists like >>47045505 tend not to see what kind of phenomena the two are in the big picture. Dream pop is a large umbrella with roots in experimental music, new wave, ethereal wave and whatnot and nowadays you can hear it in everything from specialized metal fusions and all sorts of electronic music to mainstream pop and indie rock. Dream pop was an important influence to the shoegaze scene alongside noise rock and alternative rock, and shoegaze as a sound is more specific kind of a fusion.

>>47046769
geographic is goat

XO - Heart came out earlier this year and its pretty good. Whether or not it can match the shoegaze that came out last year, I can't tell as I've only really listened to it once.

http://xotheband.bandcamp.com/
check archive for link

>>47047880

Wow this is the most right thing I've read on /mu/ in a long time. It seems like nobody here as any idea what the fuck Dream Pop is most of the time. Good to see at least someone else knows what they're talking about.

>>47045868
p sure guys been viraling it since he posted in a bandcamp thread and a bunch rec threads at like the same time

pure x
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2LgWQKwKsg

first album best album

what are they thinking ditching that sweet reverb drenched sound

new stuffs still alright though

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVZyKeFG1IE

Small swedish band called Spökraket:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl7518FjU00

no idea if they've released an album yet

>>47048242
Finest shoegaze with violins, highly recommended to everyone who hasn't heard it

>>47048242
That album art is fucking atrocious

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What about noise-pop shoegaze?

Anything good come out lately in that vein?

I'm dying for something new along the lines of Jesus And Mary Chain, The Raveonettes or The Vandelles

also: Opinions on pic related?

>>47048305

So is your face, but we still love you anon.

>>47048318
I never said I wouldn't listen to it :^)

>>47048250
They are from Denmark

>>47048327

okay we cool <3

>>47048242
>>47048318
good to see you posting dear <3

also le Blind Jones is top tier

>>47048333

aw shit, i was sure that they were from sweden. they're still great though!

Does anyone have a chart/collage of good tier shoegaze?

What's some amazing japanese shoegaze like Kinoko Teikoku? They're pretty much my favorite band right now?
I love MASS OF THE FERMENTING DREGS, but Tokyo Shoegazer wasn't really to my liking

I guess just "twinkly", noisy stuff full of very catchy and obvious hooks and moments of pure bliss

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Anyone who likes Treasure should hear this

been cringing this whole thread. another genre /mu/ apparently doesnt know shit about.

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>>47049833

>>47050815
i think this guy >>47047880 got it pretty much right

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Airs - Adore
>emogaze

>>47047503
>it's popular so I'm not into it

>>47047705
no you just told me to listen to more music because I don't like the same bands you like

>>47047743
no that's not the same thing. I don't exculsively listen to first wave shoegaze/dream pop, but I prefer it immensely over modern bands

>>47046355
holy shit that artwork is great
gonna listen to that based on artwork alone

Matt Mondanile's (Real Estate) solo project Ducktails. /mu/ is probably going to dig his older lower-fi stuff ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ6wChLpGDw ) over the newer,cheesier stuff (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsSmhf3ENvY). The music develops really nicely across the album.

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>>47049833

Sweet
fucking
Trip

>>47045990
YES. This album definitely needs more recognition around here. Good taste anon.

>>47045557
They are shit-tier live

>>47045113
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR0s2nI4q6g

The Futures Dust, and amazing band.

>>47052675
so is like every other shoegaze band

I've heard that Ride was the GOAT live shoegaze act