It's been about 9 months since this was updated and with season 5 over I think it's about time for another of these to be made.
So lets see whats changed in the past 9 months and where the new season will fit into the rankings now that it's had roughly five weeks to settle.
Just to note. This survey assumes you've at least seen all the episodes, so feel free to make a list if you haven't seen them all and want to see how yours turns out. It just won't be included.
1) Use the episode sorter and post the results as text. I won’t bother with adding your results manually if you post them as a picture.
Please try to avoid the I like both and No opinion options for more accurate results.
2) Age, gender.
3) When did you become involved in the fandom? (Try to
4) Rate the quality of the show [1 to 10].
5) How optimistic are you about the future of the show? [1-very pessimistic to 10-very optimistic]
There's a little less than 4 days till this hits the month mark that I said I'd stop at to make the final charts, but I may go one to two days longer if people Anons are still working on charts by then.
So at most you guys have 6 days left to finish if you want to contribute a list.
Here's how I'd like responses to look:
1 2x03 Lesson Zero
2 5x18 Crusaders of the Lost Mark
3 2x04 Luna Eclipsed
4 5x12 Amending Fences
5 2x02 The Return of Harmony - Part 2
6 1x23 The Cutie Mark Chronicles
7 4x12 Pinkie Pride
8 2x26 A Canterlot Wedding - Part 2
9 2x25 A Canterlot Wedding - Part 1
10 1x26 The Best Night Ever
11 2x01 The Return of Harmony - Part 1
12 4x18 Maud Pie
13 2x18 A Friend in Deed
14 1x11 Winter Wrap Up
15 4x21 Testing Testing 1, 2, 3
16 1x14 Suited for Success
17 2x23 Ponyville Confidential
18 2x11 Hearth's Warming Eve
19 4x25 Twilight's Kingdom - Part 1
20 2x09 Sweet and Elite
21 2x14 The Last Roundup
22 1x09 Bridle Gossip
23 1x25 Party of One
24 4x01 Princess Twilight Sparkle - Part 1
25 5x21 Scare Master
26 5x26 The Cutie Re-Mark Pt. 2
27 5x25 The Cutie Re-Mark Pt. 1
28 4x26 Twilight's Kingdom - Part 2
29 5x01 The Cutie Map - Part 1
30 1x10 Swarm of the Century
31 1x08 Look Before You Sleep
32 1x16 Sonic Rainboom
33 2x15 The Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000
34 4x08 Rarity Takes Manehattan
35 4x09 Pinkie Apple Pie
36 4x03 Castle Mane-ia
37 4x02 Princess Twilight Sparkle - Part 2
38 5x20 Hearthbreakers
39 5x03 Castle Sweet Castle
40 5x02 The Cutie Map - Part 2
41 5x14 Canterlot Boutique
42 5x13 Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep?
43 5x08 The Lost Treasure of Griffonstone
44 4x14 Filli Vanilli
45 1x07 Dragonshy
46 1x06 Boast Busters
47 3x13 Magical Mystery Cure
48 4x06 Power Ponies
49 1x15 Feeling Pinkie Keen
50 1x20 Green Isn't Your Colour
51 2x22 Hurricane Fluttershy
52 3x01 The Crystal Empire - Part 1
53 2x19 Putting Your Hoof Down
54 2x16 Read It and Weep
55 2x10 Secret of My Excess
56 2x05 Sisterhooves Social
57 1x19 A Dog and Pony Show
58 1x17 Stare Master
59 1x13 Fall Weather Friends
60 1x02 Friendship is Magic - Part 2
61 1x01 Friendship is Magic - Part 1
62 5x24 The Mane Attraction
63 1x05 Griffon the Brush-Off
64 4x16 It Ain't Easy Being Breezies
65 4x11 Three's A Crowd
66 4x22 Trade Ya!
67 5x16 Made in Manehattan
68 5x15 Rarity Investigates!
69 5x04 Bloom & Gloom
70 5x07 Make New Friends but Keep Discord
71 5x11 Party Pooped
72 5x09 Slice of Life
73 2x20 It's About Time
74 3x06 Sleepless in Ponyville
75 3x05 Magic Duel
76 3x04 One Bad Apple
77 3x02 The Crystal Empire - Part 2
78 2x07 May the Best Pet Win!
79 4x15 Twilight Time
80 5x05 Tanks for the Memories
81 5x06 Appleoosa's Most Wanted
82 4x19 For Whom the Sweetie Belle Toils
83 4x05 Flight to the Finish
84 4x10 Rainbow Falls
85 5x23 The Hooffields and McColts
86 4x07 Bats!
87 3x11 Just for Sidekicks
88 3x10 Keep Calm and Flutter On
89 2x12 Family Appreciation Day
90 3x08 Apple Family Reunion
91 3x07 Wonderbolts Academy
92 3x03 Too Many Pinkie Pies
93 2x24 MMMystery on the Friendship Express
94 2x21 Dragon Quest
95 2x17 Hearts and Hooves Day
96 3x12 Games Ponies Play
97 4x04 Daring Don't
98 5x17 Brotherhooves Social
98 5x19 The One Where Pinkie Pie Knows
100 5x22 What About Discord?
101 2x13 Baby Cakes
102 2x06 The Cutie Pox
103 1x22 A Bird in the Hoof
104 1x21 Over a Barrel
105 1x04 Applebuck Season
106 4x23 Inspiration Manifestation
107 4x24 Equestria Games
108 1x18 The Show Stoppers
109 1x03 The Ticket Master
110 4x17 Somepony to Watch Over Me
111 4x20 Leap of Faith
112 Mx01 Rainbow Rocks
113 1x12 Call of the Cutie
114 1x24 Owl's Well That Ends Well
115 4x13 Simple Ways
116 2x08 The Mysterious Mare Do Well
117 5x10 Princess Spike
118 Mx02 Friendship Games
119 Mx00 Equestria Girls
120 3x09 Spike at Your Service
September 2011 (You can say the season or hiatus instead if you'd like, but try to be specific to the month otherwise)
Here is what the completed chart will look like once all the data is compiled if the one below ends up not being used.
Any suggestions on layout or whatnot would be appreciated if you have them.
Another Anon suggested that season and episode numbers be added to the table, so I'm going to put what that looks like here if you guys could tell me if that looks like it's too much for one table or if it would be useful to have.
Here's the ranking chart to >>26025287 with 64 Anons so far.
I'll dump the older episode charts here too for reference.
Feel free to discuss the seasons and movies in general too if you'd like.
Who is a main character? Also, what about the plot specifically rubbed you the wrong way?
well, not main, but important character, like cadence and twilights brother, they should have been introduces earlier
and what was chrysalis plan? who made the "thread against canterlot"?
considering that there was an army of changelings ready, was chrysalis intent to just attack canterlot? dont the feed on love?
it's seems kinda odd that they introduced a creature with certain characteristics, and didnt even maintain consistency of those characteristics in the episode that they introduced them in
For what reason would they need to be introduced earlier? I cannot remember an instance that would have needed the mention of SA or Cadence.
The changelings were shown making Cocoons for those they captured. It seemed to me that it is more effective for them to directly drain a pony rather than feed off it passively as is often the case for creatures of similar design. I assume it wouldn't be easy to mass a large amount of flying loud bug ponies without someone in Canterlot catching wind. Attempting discretion is not necessary when their queen and several others had already successfully infiltrated the city.
Feel free to point out flaws in what I'm describing, I just honestly did not see much issue with the plot. As for the main characters, obviously they were not initially planned out, but I didn't see much of the earlier episodes changing with knowledge of their existence.
>spent all day watching pony for this
I love this show
1 5x12 Amending Fences
2 5x20 Hearthbreakers
3 2x15 The Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000
4 4x12 Pinkie Pride
5 4x18 Maud Pie
6 5x05 Tanks for the Memories
7 5x01 The Cutie Map - Part 1
8 1x18 The Show Stoppers
9 2x02 The Return of Harmony - Part 2
10 4x09 Pinkie Apple Pie
11 3x07 Wonderbolts Academy
12 1x25 Party of One
13 2x01 The Return of Harmony - Part 1
14 4x11 Three's A Crowd
15 1x13 Fall Weather Friends
16 3x06 Sleepless in Ponyville
17 2x26 A Canterlot Wedding - Part 2
18 1x26 The Best Night Ever
19 5x21 Scare Master
20 3x13 Magical Mystery Cure
21 2x19 Putting Your Hoof Down
22 1x14 Suited for Success
23 1x02 Friendship is Magic - Part 2
24 1x01 Friendship is Magic - Part 1
25 1x06 Boast Busters
26 Mx02 Friendship Games
27 Mx01 Rainbow Rocks
28 2x20 It's About Time
29 5x02 The Cutie Map - Part 2
30 4x26 Twilight's Kingdom - Part 2
31 5x13 Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep?
32 5x15 Rarity Investigates!
33 4x20 Leap of Faith
34 3x05 Magic Duel
35 5x09 Slice of Life
36 4x14 Filli Vanilli
37 2x18 A Friend in Deed
38 2x08 The Mysterious Mare Do Well
39 5x04 Bloom & Gloom
40 5x14 Canterlot Boutique
41 4x07 Bats!
42 3x10 Keep Calm and Flutter On
43 1x16 Sonic Rainboom
44 2x04 Luna Eclipsed
45 4x25 Twilight's Kingdom - Part 1
46 4x04 Daring Don't
47 1x20 Green Isn't Your Colour
48 4x21 Testing Testing 1, 2, 3
49 2x03 Lesson Zero
50 1x23 The Cutie Mark Chronicles
51 1x17 Stare Master
52 4x03 Castle Mane-ia
53 4x02 Princess Twilight Sparkle - Part 2
54 1x10 Swarm of the Century
55 5x23 The Hooffields and McColts
56 1x07 Dragonshy
57 5x03 Castle Sweet Castle
58 2x24 MMMystery on the Friendship Express
59 5x07 Make New Friends but Keep Discord
60 1x09 Bridle Gossip
61 3x04 One Bad Apple
62 2x05 Sisterhooves Social
63 4x13 Simple Ways
64 1x03 The Ticket Master
65 4x23 Inspiration Manifestation
66 3x08 Apple Family Reunion
67 3x02 The Crystal Empire - Part 2
68 4x01 Princess Twilight Sparkle - Part 1
69 2x22 Hurricane Fluttershy
70 5x11 Party Pooped
71 4x22 Trade Ya!
72 4x19 For Whom the Sweetie Belle Toils
73 1x15 Feeling Pinkie Keen
74 5x17 Brotherhooves Social
75 5x25 The Cutie Re-Mark Pt. 1
76 5x26 The Cutie Re-Mark Pt. 2
77 1x04 Applebuck Season
78 3x01 The Crystal Empire - Part 1
79 1x12 Call of the Cutie
80 4x10 Rainbow Falls
81 5x08 The Lost Treasure of Griffonstone
82 2x07 May the Best Pet Win!
83 2x14 The Last Roundup
84 4x06 Power Ponies
85 2x09 Sweet and Elite
86 2x11 Hearth's Warming Eve
87 2x12 Family Appreciation Day
88 5x24 The Mane Attraction
89 5x16 Made in Manehattan
90 1x21 Over a Barrel
91 2x16 Read It and Weep
92 3x12 Games Ponies Play
93 1x11 Winter Wrap Up
94 4x05 Flight to the Finish
95 3x11 Just for Sidekicks
96 4x08 Rarity Takes Manehattan
97 4x15 Twilight Time
98 4x17 Somepony to Watch Over Me
99 3x03 Too Many Pinkie Pies
100 1x22 A Bird in the Hoof
101 2x23 Ponyville Confidential
102 1x19 A Dog and Pony Show
103 2x10 Secret of My Excess
104 5x06 Appleoosa's Most Wanted
105 4x16 It Ain't Easy Being Breezies
106 1x05 Griffon the Brush-Off
107 2x17 Hearts and Hooves Day
108 Mx00 Equestria Girls
109 5x19 The One Where Pinkie Pie Knows
110 5x18 Crusaders of the Lost Mark
111 1x24 Owl's Well That Ends Well
112 2x21 Dragon Quest
113 3x09 Spike at Your Service
114 1x08 Look Before You Sleep
115 2x06 The Cutie Pox
116 2x25 A Canterlot Wedding - Part 1
117 5x22 What About Discord?
118 2x13 Baby Cakes
119 4x24 Equestria Games
120 5x10 Princess Spike
Bumping with the hard truth
Bump with the series and season trends to >>26037121 with 65 Anons so far.
Being stuck on campus for that long sucks. Thanks as always for keeping the thread alive Anons.
I need the time you joined the fandom Anon.
Preferably the season or hiatus if you please.
I know the goal of this particular chart is to spot trends, but it may be nice to be able to spot individual episodes in here too now that I see how hard it is with no smaller tick marks.
Does this with minor ticks on the x axis look better to you guys?
I'll be out for a few hours. Keep those lists coming if you have them /mlp/.
1 2x03 Lesson Zero
2 2x20 It's About Time
3 2x26 A Canterlot Wedding - Part 2
4 2x25 A Canterlot Wedding - Part 1
5 2x02 The Return of Harmony - Part 2
6 2x01 The Return of Harmony - Part 1
7 1x02 Friendship is Magic - Part 2
8 1x01 Friendship is Magic - Part 1
9 5x02 The Cutie Map - Part 2
10 5x01 The Cutie Map - Part 1
11 5x26 The Cutie Re-Mark Pt. 2
12 5x25 The Cutie Re-Mark Pt. 1
13 4x26 Twilight's Kingdom - Part 2
14 4x25 Twilight's Kingdom - Part 1
15 3x02 The Crystal Empire - Part 2
16 3x01 The Crystal Empire - Part 1
17 2x15 The Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000
18 1x22 A Bird in the Hoof
19 1x10 Swarm of the Century
20 1x07 Dragonshy
21 5x12 Amending Fences
22 1x09 Bridle Gossip
23 3x10 Keep Calm and Flutter On
24 5x20 Hearthbreakers
25 5x07 Make New Friends but Keep Discord
26 4x12 Pinkie Pride
27 4x18 Maud Pie
28 4x11 Three's A Crowd
29 3x12 Games Ponies Play
30 3x03 Too Many Pinkie Pies
31 2x06 The Cutie Pox
32 2x22 Hurricane Fluttershy
33 1x20 Green Isn't Your Colour
34 1x26 The Best Night Ever
35 1x14 Suited for Success
36 1x25 Party of One
37 1x11 Winter Wrap Up
38 1x23 The Cutie Mark Chronicles
39 4x21 Testing Testing 1, 2, 3
40 4x16 It Ain't Easy Being Breezies
41 5x22 What About Discord?
42 5x23 The Hooffields and McColts
43 5x21 Scare Master
44 5x15 Rarity Investigates!
45 2x14 The Last Roundup
46 2x07 May the Best Pet Win!
47 2x05 Sisterhooves Social
48 2x10 Secret of My Excess
49 2x19 Putting Your Hoof Down
50 2x18 A Friend in Deed
51 4x09 Pinkie Apple Pie
52 2x04 Luna Eclipsed
53 1x19 A Dog and Pony Show
54 1x03 The Ticket Master
55 4x02 Princess Twilight Sparkle - Part 2
56 4x01 Princess Twilight Sparkle - Part 1
57 1x17 Stare Master
58 1x08 Look Before You Sleep
59 5x24 The Mane Attraction
60 4x03 Castle Mane-ia
61 1x15 Feeling Pinkie Keen
62 3x13 Magical Mystery Cure
63 5x08 The Lost Treasure of Griffonstone
64 5x04 Bloom & Gloom
65 1x12 Call of the Cutie
66 2x12 Family Appreciation Day
67 2x16 Read It and Weep
68 2x11 Hearth's Warming Eve
69 2x24 MMMystery on the Friendship Express
70 2x17 Hearts and Hooves Day
71 5x06 Appleoosa's Most Wanted
72 5x03 Castle Sweet Castle
73 4x07 Bats!
74 4x08 Rarity Takes Manehattan
75 4x23 Inspiration Manifestation
76 4x14 Filli Vanilli
77 4x19 For Whom the Sweetie Belle Toils
78 1x18 The Show Stoppers
79 3x04 One Bad Apple
80 2x23 Ponyville Confidential
81 3x06 Sleepless in Ponyville
82 3x07 Wonderbolts Academy
83 1x16 Sonic Rainboom
84 2x13 Baby Cakes
85 1x04 Applebuck Season
86 1x06 Boast Busters
87 1x21 Over a Barrel
88 1x05 Griffon the Brush-Off
89 3x05 Magic Duel
90 1x13 Fall Weather Friends
91 2x08 The Mysterious Mare Do Well
92 3x08 Apple Family Reunion
93 2x09 Sweet and Elite
94 5x14 Canterlot Boutique
95 1x24 Owl's Well That Ends Well
96 4x06 Power Ponies
97 4x20 Leap of Faith
98 4x13 Simple Ways
99 5x19 The One Where Pinkie Pie Knows
100 4x15 Twilight Time
101 5x16 Made in Manehattan
102 5x17 Brotherhooves Social
103 Mx01 Rainbow Rocks
104 Mx00 Equestria Girls
105 4x22 Trade Ya!
106 Mx02 Friendship Games
107 4x24 Equestria Games
108 5x10 Princess Spike
109 5x11 Party Pooped
110 2x21 Dragon Quest
111 3x09 Spike at Your Service
112 3x11 Just for Sidekicks
113 5x18 Crusaders of the Lost Mark
114 4x17 Somepony to Watch Over Me
115 5x13 Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep?
116 5x05 Tanks for the Memories
117 5x09 Slice of Life
118 4x10 Rainbow Falls
119 4x05 Flight to the Finish
120 4x04 Daring Don't
Bump with the writer averages to >>26046539 with 66 Anons so far.
Berrow dropped a spot since the last one with 61 Anons.
I have the Daring Do series and still haven't gotten around to reading those, so I still think her best book is one out of the Celestia, Luna, or Rarity books. If she's still on for S6 I think I'm just going to reread through all her stuff again since they're short enough.
1 2x02 The Return of Harmony - Part 2
2 1x09 Bridle Gossip
3 3x05 Magic Duel
4 5x02 The Cutie Map - Part 2
5 5x01 The Cutie Map - Part 1
6 1x01 Friendship is Magic - Part 1
7 2x15 The Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000
8 2x22 Hurricane Fluttershy
9 2x01 The Return of Harmony - Part 1
10 1x10 Swarm of the Century
11 5x25 The Cutie Re-Mark Pt. 1
12 5x26 The Cutie Re-Mark Pt. 2
13 1x03 The Ticket Master
14 4x14 Filli Vanilli
15 1x23 The Cutie Mark Chronicles
16 3x06 Sleepless in Ponyville
17 1x20 Green Isn't Your Colour
18 1x18 The Show Stoppers
19 5x18 Crusaders of the Lost Mark
20 1x16 Sonic Rainboom
21 1x25 Party of One
22 1x07 Dragonshy
23 1x17 Stare Master
24 1x26 The Best Night Ever
25 1x08 Look Before You Sleep
26 2x09 Sweet and Elite
27 2x23 Ponyville Confidential
28 3x02 The Crystal Empire - Part 2
29 3x01 The Crystal Empire - Part 1
30 1x12 Call of the Cutie
31 1x11 Winter Wrap Up
32 1x15 Feeling Pinkie Keen
33 4x05 Flight to the Finish
34 4x07 Bats!
35 4x26 Twilight's Kingdom - Part 2
36 5x24 The Mane Attraction
37 Mx02 Friendship Games
38 2x05 Sisterhooves Social
39 2x20 It's About Time
40 2x25 A Canterlot Wedding - Part 1
41 2x26 A Canterlot Wedding - Part 2
42 3x03 Too Many Pinkie Pies
43 1x22 A Bird in the Hoof
44 2x06 The Cutie Pox
45 5x12 Amending Fences
46 5x13 Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep?
47 4x08 Rarity Takes Manehattan
48 1x02 Friendship is Magic - Part 2
49 1x05 Griffon the Brush-Off
50 2x03 Lesson Zero
51 2x14 The Last Roundup
52 3x10 Keep Calm and Flutter On
53 3x11 Just for Sidekicks
54 3x13 Magical Mystery Cure
55 4x03 Castle Mane-ia
56 4x15 Twilight Time
57 4x16 It Ain't Easy Being Breezies
58 4x18 Maud Pie
59 4x19 For Whom the Sweetie Belle Toils
60 4x20 Leap of Faith
61 4x25 Twilight's Kingdom - Part 1
62 5x06 Appleoosa's Most Wanted
63 5x08 The Lost Treasure of Griffonstone
64 5x09 Slice of Life
65 5x11 Party Pooped
66 5x14 Canterlot Boutique
67 5x20 Hearthbreakers
68 Mx01 Rainbow Rocks
69 4x01 Princess Twilight Sparkle - Part 1
70 4x02 Princess Twilight Sparkle - Part 2
71 2x24 MMMystery on the Friendship Express
72 3x07 Wonderbolts Academy
73 1x04 Applebuck Season
74 1x13 Fall Weather Friends
75 1x14 Suited for Success
76 4x23 Inspiration Manifestation
77 2x04 Luna Eclipsed
78 2x12 Family Appreciation Day
79 2x16 Read It and Weep
80 2x17 Hearts and Hooves Day
81 2x19 Putting Your Hoof Down
82 5x04 Bloom & Gloom
83 5x15 Rarity Investigates!
84 2x11 Hearth's Warming Eve
85 3x12 Games Ponies Play
86 5x03 Castle Sweet Castle
87 5x10 Princess Spike
88 5x16 Made in Manehattan
89 2x21 Dragon Quest
90 3x04 One Bad Apple
91 4x21 Testing Testing 1, 2, 3
92 4x22 Trade Ya!
93 4x24 Equestria Games
94 4x06 Power Ponies
95 1x19 A Dog and Pony Show
96 1x21 Over a Barrel
97 2x07 May the Best Pet Win!
98 3x08 Apple Family Reunion
99 4x17 Somepony to Watch Over Me
100 5x23 The Hooffields and McColts
101 4x10 Rainbow Falls
102 5x07 Make New Friends but Keep Discord
103 1x06 Boast Busters
104 4x09 Pinkie Apple Pie
105 5x19 The One Where Pinkie Pie Knows
106 5x22 What About Discord?
107 4x04 Daring Don't
108 5x21 Scare Master
109 5x17 Brotherhooves Social
110 4x11 Three's A Crowd
111 2x18 A Friend in Deed
112 4x12 Pinkie Pride
113 2x10 Secret of My Excess
114 1x24 Owl's Well That Ends Well
115 2x08 The Mysterious Mare Do Well
116 2x13 Baby Cakes
117 3x09 Spike at Your Service
118 Mx00 Equestria Girls
119 4x13 Simple Ways
120 5x05 Tanks for the Memories
2) 26, M
3) December 2010
Took a while to rewatch all episodes. It was stunning how poorly some of my old favorites held up and how surprisingly good other episodes I didn't initially like were.
Pinkie Pride and Secret of My Excess are rather low.
Princess Spike is your favorite Spike episode? Inspiration Manifestation is more of a dual episode.
Okay, two questions: why did you put Brotherhooves Social so low and why did you put Friendship Games so high? Just curious, you have some opinions that could make good discussion. Sorry you're not too optimistic.
Season averages to >>26047663 with 67 Anons so far.
I'd say S1 and S2 are tied at this point.
I know a lot of people love this one, but I personally just didn't like the songs, which pretty much ruins most of the episode seeing how it's a musical. Also, Pinkie is my least favorite character since s2, so her episodes were kind of a chore in general. AFiD would be lower as well if it weren't for the Smile Song. That one feels just as good today as it did back in the days.
>Secret of My Excess
To begin with I don't like Sparity shipping and I'm not exactly a fan of Spike if an episode is about him. For some reason he's a pretty cool, rational character in a lot of episodes where he's just a side character, but as soon as he's in the spotlight, he seems to lose his common sense. Also, I'm not a fan of monster movies, so most of the second and third act, which are mostly him rampaging through Ponyville, fell completely flat for me too.
>Princess Spike is your favorite Spike episode?
I ranked Just For Sidekicks above it (53), but Princess Spike wasn't all that bad either.
>why did you put Brotherhooves Social so low
The beginning and the speech at the end were okay, but other than that I just didn't find Big Mac pretending to be Apple Bloom's cousin funny. Not because of lgbt/SJW-moral-bullshit or anything - the jokes just didn't work for me, which resulted in an overall very boring episode with a lot of cringe moments (sorry, I know that's an overused buzzword, but it really is how I felt).
>why did you put Friendship Games so high?
This one's a guilty pleasure for me. Imho the story and pacing were much better than in EquGirls and RR, but other than that I'll admit it's a bad movie that I enjoyed for reasons I can't even quite comprehend myself. I always found Sunset Shimmer to be extremely boring, the songs are bland and some of the plotholes are ridiculous. I should hate it, but I watched it twice and enjoyed it both times.
Everything just imho, naturally. Tastes differ and all.
Personally, s3 really surprised me in a positive way when I was rewatching the episodes. The first half was fantastic. It's just the second half where it got weaker - especially SAYS.
I think it's OK to put there for reference. Most people will know the season of the episodes (and some turbonerds even the number within the season), but it's the kind of information that would belong on a well-done chart in my opinion. However, the column should be smaller in my opinion, perhaps you could shorten the title to just Episode # or maybe SxEP, it should be fairly clear what it means even for external readers since the chart is about a TV show.
Sounds good to me. I think this looks okay.
Alright. I mainly am just curious about Brotherhooves Social ending up so low. Personally I didn't like it that much because I have never, ever, ever wanted Big Mac to be anything more than a gag character. I really struggled to care at that big ending speech. All the SJW shit that his VA spewed not related to the episode didn't change my opinion either way but it wasn't anything but just "okay."
I think the concept and moral would have worked a lot better were it a Shining Armor/Spike episode that many people speculated it would be. Shining Armor desperately needs characterization and the moral that it went for would probably have worked better with him and seemed more genuine because he's not a gag character and it would probably mean more to Spike anyway.
>and some turbonerds even the number within the season
I don't know the numbers for most of S4, but I know all the rest.
Apple Bloom episodes are disliked, yeah. IMO pretty much all of them are mediocre. But I personally don't like Big Mac that much.
Brotherhooves Social would have been amazing were it an actual Brotherhooves Social and Shining Armor competed with Spike. At least there, him feeling inadequate compared to his sister would have made slightly more sense. Even the "pity party" at the end would have been stronger because you've got two characters that deal with those feelings rather than just one.
And of course we wouldn't have had to deal with some rather unfunny scenes during competition.
I greatly enjoyed the episode and I feel a large part of that is because I wasnt evaluating it based on humor. The episode dealt with Big Mac's desperation to be acknowledged and the cringe did a great job of conveying how little he cared about what he had to do to get that acknowledgment (as well as how much it meant to him)
I've seen a lot of people criticize the majority of the episode as a bad joke while celebrating the 'feels' ending, but the entire episode was a slightly more subtle delivery of that message. The ending is strengthened from the feelings developed throughout the episode and comedy seemed to not be the main focus of the episode.
So it's like Equestria Games, another episode that was "wasted" on a character, had a decent ending, but the middle was intolerable even if you had to have it to build up to the end.
Huh, it had the same writer.
I still like Equestria Games better and think it worked better. Mainly because I buy Spike's development/fears more than Big Mac's.
Forgot to mention that while Spike's desperation to not fuck up and seem useful is rooted in his sense of identity and his personal internal struggle with his role in the world and what he does, Big Mac's really can be rooted to what amounts to an irrational amount of entitlement that he feels as AB's big brother to her looking up to him. That and sibling rivalry. It's not like he's not close to AB anyway.
I was this anon >>26051475 and I hit enter too quickly but comparing the episodes really made me understand why I love Equestria Games and not Brotherhooves Social.
I do not understand the preference for Shining Armor. The Apples are heavily tied to family and greatly stress the bond they have. The episode has less to do with feeling inferior and more to do with not feeling as close to your kin as you used to. It's not at all irrational or entitled and it makes perfect sense to come from a character like Big Mac who has mostly been shown in his support of the family.
Again, I don't see how the middle is intolerable unless you're looking at it purely from a comedic standpoint.
Comparing it to Equestria Games, Spike does not want to be in that situation, he gains no potential benefit from it, and it stems from a situation that is mostly out of his control.
Big Mac on the other hand, knows full well he looks stupid, does not give a shit, and is doing so because he wants to impress AB more than anything
> The Apples are heavily tied to family and greatly stress the bond they have. The episode has less to do with feeling inferior and more to do with not feeling as close to your kin as you used to.
He's with her all the time. If anything, he's around her MORE than Applejack is because she's going to save the world. It's his own damn fault if he doesn't feel close to her, which is already sketchy because of the whole oneness of the Apple family thing.
I mean if you're going to compare the two both are scenes that make the ending more meaningful. I will concede that. I just cannot shake the apathy and disbelief that I have for Big Mac's feelings in his episode while I can genuinely believe Spike's in Equestria Games. I will admit that I'm biased but still.
From the beginning it is made clear what the concern is. Big Mac feels he is losing his connection to AB and is desperate to preserve. The entire episode following that is used to depict Big Mac's character as well as hammering in the overall episode concept. The ending merely puts a bow on what the writer got across while allowing AB to respond to what BM was putting out the entire episode.
I simply don't see what the flaw is unless you just hate Big Mac. The episode is very coherent and well put together
Again, if anything he's around Apple Bloom more than AJ because he's always on the farm. It's his own fault. There's no connection to lose because the Apples are connected at the hip and probably will be forever. If anything it's AJ that should fear being distant from AB.
I was neutral to Big Mac before but this episode really made me dislike him, hopefully he's back to his two note self next season now that his fans got thrown a bone that few others asked for.
Speaking as a brother I completely disagree with your disbelief. The situation is a very believeable one and it is not as simple as just spending time with your sister. If you do not like the episode, that's fine, but I cannot at all agree with your evaluation of sibling relationship and I feel many people thought it was an accurate representation.
It is not an issue of spending time with each other, it is an issue of younger siblings growing up and relying on you less and less. What once impressed AB no longer does so and that is not at all an uncommon relationship depicted by writers. It is a byproduct of growing up and almost always the case with Brother Sister relationships
I'm a younger brother. I only have one older brother. I could see what you're talking about with sibling relationships but in my experience if two siblings are drifting apart even when they're together all the time it's the fault of both not putting enough effort in.
I also disagree with "it's not just as simple as spending time with your sister." My brother lives far away from me and when I feel distant and finally see him again, just being around him is enough for me.
Instead of trying to force things to be like they once were, you need to adapt to the new realities of the relationship. Sure AB needs Big Mac less, but she also needs AJ less now too. Because she's growing up and becoming a mare who has her own identity.
What she learned from her siblings is great and they did a great job being their siblings, but they should realize that she needs her own life and let her trot by. Things aren't going to be the same as when she was a filly but that's not sad. It's just how things are.
Again, it's a matter of growing up. Neither AB or BM disliked each other. AB was just less impressed with BM than she was when she was younger. They still loved each other, BM just felt that AB didn't see him as a "hero" anymore. Your older brother could likely do things you weren't capable of, as you got older, that wasn't as much the case.
Yes. That was the 'lesson' of the episode. It is still something many older brothers face as younger sisters tend to idolize them until they reach a certain age. It's not a negative relationship, but it's clearly a different one
Tying that back to the episode. It did a great job of conveying those feelings of trying to reestablish that connection before having the realization that things change and that they both still love each other
I never idolized my brother. I basically had an equal relationship with him, and we were pretty close.
It was pretty shocking when I had to realize that my older brother was changing and I kind of wanted the old days back. But I'm happy with our relationship now.
Maybe it's just the younger sibling in me talking but it's always struck me as pretty arrogant and entitled to assume that your younger siblings should just inherently look up to you. Maybe I'm an odd case. My view of a sibling's relationship was colored by a lot of things, and I have no clue how this is different with a younger female/older male relationship.
All I've got to judge this is my own experience. Maybe I don't know what an older brother would feel. I know what I feel and where that came from though. This discussion has been pretty good. I don't think we'll ever agree about Big Mac but I enjoy hearing about other interpretations.
That's what I'm getting at though. You feel that way because you did not have that relationship. It was made clear that AB did have that relationship with BM. That's why I keep referring to it being matter of getting older. Many siblings do look up to their older kin and that changes over time. BM isn't assuming she HAS to look up to him, it's that she did for a long time and he's learning to move on
And his crossdressing stunt was more about him vainly trying to hold onto the past by being what a much younger Apple Bloom would admire and showing that he's delusional about what their relationship is.
I suppose he learned his lesson in the end.
I'll be out for a few hours depending on how busy work is after I wake up.
Keep the lists coming if you have them /mlp/.