/srwg/ Super Robot Wars General #842

>>13873005
Only played Z1, so I don't know. Still, we don't even know if they're gonna put Z games in there or not, if they do, they should go in order and on the other hand K is pretty much guaranteed to be in the next game.

>>13873013
How about dropping the whole real robot facade and make a super robot that looks like the Alt?

Astranagant when?

When are we going to get OG Tryon 3?

>>13873039
Soon after the OG Eldoran and the OG five combiner.

>>13873028

Is it strange I keep mispronouncing that? I keep thinking it says Astragant.

>>13873081
Give them to the Rakuen kids.

>>13873085
>Gakuen
D'oh.

>>13873088
Sure, the Gakuen kids get Gakuenger. Why not?

>>13872812
Bleh, I'll have to try fiddling with reinstalls then. Thanks for the help, though.

So what OG knock-offs do we already have and what OG knock-offs do we need/ want?

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BEOWULFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDOx5F9eDgw

THANK YOU BASED AMARA

>>13873158
We're still missing the classic 5 pilot Super both appearance and gameplay wise, relying on spirit spam to make up for having no mobility and meh armor.

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Which Original

>>13873190
Gespenst.

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would you Generation?

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>>13873168
We can rebuild them. We have the technology. We can make them better than they were. Stronger, faster, cooler.

>>13873190
>>13873198
Goddamn, mate, they're both so damn cute and hot it's not even funny. I can't choose! Don't do this to me!

>>13873190
>>13873198
Festina.

>>13873018

True. For OG, there's no such thing as too many bullshit asspulls. For OG, crossgate is the favorite excuse for any interdimensional happening, and it wouldn't surprise me if the shuras when they return they do it through the crossgate instead of using the swordian

>>13873212
>For OG, there's no such thing as too many bullshit asspulls.
There is. It'd be bringing the EF people, since they don't even have giant robots.

>>13873212
Are the Swordians good at exact teleportation over extrasolar distances?

>>13873212
Don't forget several dimension hopping or breaking events on their way with K, L, and Z coming up soon. On top of Crossgates always being a possibility.

>>13873158
We still don't have a Getter or Tekkaman, insert "I bet Tokusatsu Taisen 2001 has legal problems" comment ehre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_4o3WRaTIw

WHY IS THIS ALLOWED?

>>13873158
We're still missing a Valk knockoff, but after the whole Huckebein problem I guess the Lions and the Wildraubtier are the closest we're gonna get

>>13873216

Easy, they just bring the EF people at the very exact moment they were creating new mecha (Which due a banpresto brand asspull, resembled the ones they controlled in the endless frontier and had the same system dygenguar and valsione uses for ease of use), after all that's how it happened for a fuckton of the pilots who casually appeared at the right time and in the right moment to pilot mecha

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>>13873190
>>13873198
All

>>13873320
>not waxing your pubes before forcibly throat fucking your waifu to her breaking point
Who would be this cruel?

>Download Aquarion Logos batch from nyaa
>Episode 1
>it's an hour long

Is that supposed to be there?

>>13873286
surely you mean Ibis has us covered. Pinpoint attacks, gerwalk, itano circus and then some

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>>13873168

>>13873338
Yeah but nothing that flat out turns into a fighter plane. Yet we'll always have that shitty jet keeping the bench toasty.

>>13873332
Logos had BDs?

>>13873346
Why wouldn't it?

>>13873350
Dunno.

But that sounds like a 1080p download time to me.

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>>13873320

>>13873320
Who the best on the bed? Calvina looks be the borest one

>>13873364
>Translation: I'd never be man enough to satisfy Calvina.

>>13873367
Cal can only ever be satisfied by the Orgone Sword F, anyway.

>>13873345
Don't the Altairion, Vegalion and the Hyperion transform into fighter planes

>>13873367
Can't compete with billion year old alien dick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHas_nFL2cM

SOON

>>13873377
i think he means straight up being a near real world jet like the VFs do

>>13873400
>Caring about a holiday that isn't even a holiday and is nothing but a waste of money

Remove yourself from this plane of existence.

>>13873320
Damn. They looked like they stepped out of an Teruaki Murakami hentai.

>>13873412
Hello, virgin.

>>13873177
That was the SRX in OG1.

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It's not Valentine's here yet, but have some love anyway.

>>13873320
This was deleted last thread so what's the point of posting it again?

>>13873444

Hello, retard that makes baseless assumptions.

>>13873464

Nope. You're still a retard though, so good job on that, I guess.

>>13873476
I'm sorry I hit your nerve so hard.

You were probably a dick to her.

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>>13873464
>>13873476
Get a room, you two, Jesus.

>>13873478

You keep on projecting anon, I'm sure it'll get you somewhere.

>>13873447
Not enough pilots, not enough weaponry based on children's toys

>>13873481

I'm not shacking up with the cuck who projects his failures onto other people, thank you very much.

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So how annoying are the Azazel types going to be when you fight them?

>>13873492
Just send Kazuki/Sushi on them.

>>13873492
Is this thing supposed to be scary? It looks more comical than anything else.

>>13873464
>>13873476
Just kiss already, christ.

>>13873484
>>13873490
>Projecting
>Projects
Shiro, plz

>>13873159
Game name?

>>13873533
>Shiro

Literally who/what?

>>13873539
Final Fantasy Tactics.

>>13873543
This guy >>13873481but less emo.

>>13873026
You've already played the best part of the Z series, that's a good place to stop.

>>13873492
Just another run of the mill boss class Festum. Cast Strike/Flash/Fortitude etc and move on.

Might be semi annoying if they bring Stun along with them.

>>13873590
But what if you only had OE's Strike/Flash!?

>>13873596
OE's Strike/Flash don't run out until when you actually dodge/hit something anyway.

Strike kind of deserves a nerf anyway.

>>13873603
>Strike kind of deserves a nerf anyway.
Fuck off
Strike not canceling out Double Image was fucking bullshit

>>13873611
>Strike kind of deserves a nerf
>Automatically jumps to the worst possible scenario

Anon pls.

Wait.

OE's Strike only lasts one hit and doesn't negate Double Image?

It better cost like, 5 SP, tops.

>>13873619
You're the one who brought up OE jackass

>>13873611
OE has the bug fucks broken version of Exhaust and not many bosses actually had Double Image/After Image/Bunshin.

>>13873620
It also isn't a guaranteed hit

>>13873623
An anon was the one who inquired about OE Strike/Flash in the first place retard.

>>13873630
So it literally does not do the sole thing it was designed to do.

Welp, glad I never touched OE then.

>>13873630
>>13873635

Because it doesn't wear off until when you hit something and can be casted in the enemy phase.

Its almost impossible to miss things in OE once surround is up anyway.

>>13873620
It lasts one hit and costs like 10/20/30 for 30/60/90% increase (selectable, NEO/OE allows you to choose how strong of an effect you want your Spirit Commands to be in return for paying more)

Like >>13873603 said though, there's a bit of a small mercy in that if you somehow manage to miss with the additional % increase, it won't get used up.

The "ignore special defenses" part got moved to a Weapon Property called "Lock-On", but I'm actually unsure if Bunshin is something that property ignores. Nevertheless, there's not really that many places when it's a concern anyway - Ru Kain, non-Hyper Zwarth and that's about it

Still glad I never played OE; its mechanics sound like an absolute shitshow.

>>13873645
Lockon is the Critical Rate + Damage boosting one.

Ignore Special Defenses is with Barrier Pierce. Which is basically one of the few weapon properties worth a damn in the end anyway for the defense reduction property/

>>13873657
It's actually the other way round - it generally has pretty good base mechanics ruined by terrible mission design and forced grinding.

(Generally because I suppose the leveling mechanic is one of the bad ones I can think of. Not that many though)

>>13873645
The old Direct Attack/'Fury' seishin that ignored other special properties never negated Double Image in older games, but no telling with this madness.

>>13873657
Its not that hard.

People also keep crying about OE Bunshin when there's hardly bosses with the thing and Exhaust is fucking absurd.

What you should be complaining about is if you're the kind of person who doesn't like to deploy a varied team since the game is designed to make people switch characters up or else you'll get heavily punished for being below the level average.

>>13873667
Did they at least change the name? Because having the 'sure hit' seishin not doing that one thing is just sad.

>>13873670
So you have to rotate in all the shitty benchwarmers you hate using or the game fucks you over?

Not touching OE ever, then. Thanks for the warning.

>>13873668
Direct Hit was always a weird spirit since Banpresto could never decide what all they wanted it to ignore.

>>13873671
You have to try really fucking hard to miss a boss with Strike up especially when you have so many different ways of inflating your accuracy in addition to the spirit.

>>13873681
Jokes on you, some of the traditional bench warmers/midgame filler are really good in OE like the NT-1 Alex.

Now that there's upgradable accuracy, Strike isn't necessarily "required" but there's still cunts like the School assholes in 2ndOG that are a massive pain in the ass to hit without it

If you absolutely HAD to nerf it the only change that should be made would be limiting it to a single attack I guess, but if they did that please for the love of god make it cheaper.

>>13873689
Strike is already for only 1 attack though?

>>13873686
It's kind of funny - there's kind of a clear tier list in OE which consists of the multi-unit supers and a bunch of units with Pierce/Barrier Pierce, but even the lower tier units feel like they're a lot more usable compared to your average SRW benchwarmer.

I think the Hyaku Shitty was the only unit I thought was pretty unsalvagable.

>>13873694
>Strike is already for only 1 attack though?

until the player's next turn

>>13873694
Strike lasts a whole turn. What series have you been playing?

>>13873689
Strike - 15 SP for 60%
True Strike - 25 SP for current effect

I am the spirit of Sanbondo from the future

>>13873689
I always felt like 10SP Strike was too cheap for something that lasts the entire turn.

>>13873683
I guess, as far as bosses go, but half the use of the bloody thing was for letting Supers hit swarms of speedy things over a turn, especially in some older games where you really can't upgrade accuracy.

I really hope that OE is very lenient on accuracy issues, because - even getting to use it on enemy turns - having to pay 10-30 SP every time you want to hit something if you're unlucky enough to be mobbed by dudes sounds absurd.

>>13873700
10 SP for a guaranteed hit.
30 SP for the entire turn.

Done.

>>13873701
Very few pilots get a 10 SP strike. It's 20 SP on average.

>>13873701
And I don't have a problem with it at all. Life's weird like that.

>>13873698
>>13873699
Guess I never noticed.

>>13873686
I don't just mean 'subpar units'; hell, some of those I try to pump up and keep relevant if I like 'em.

I consider Kamille a benchwarmer any time Zeta shows up in the series list because I fucking hate both his autistic ass and the show that spawned him, so he gets to rage to himself offscreen and I don't have to deal with him unless plot drags him back in.

>>13873702
OE has a bunch of command auras and accuracy boosting parts.

>>13873707
Benchwarmer is a term for mediocre/bad units, not units that you don't like.

>>13873702
What you might be missing from the picture is the flanking system - unlike the regular SRW games with a really puny 5/10% damage increase, flanking the target grants huge accuracy and damage bonuses - and surrounding a unit on all 4 sides gives like doubled damage and hit rate... hell, maybe even more because my memory is kind of fuzzy on this, but it's hella high

>>13873701
>>13873704
Yeah, 10 SP strike is like Axel and Kou from AP territory.

>>13873704
I dunno, in OG2nd, it felt like 15 was the average point for Strike.

>>13873715
OE's damage and accuracy boost from flanking cap at 60%.

>>13873712
Well he's fucking warming the bench in all my games, so what do I call him? Other than a waste of space.

>>13873715
And games with fixed SP costs for all pilots, like the Nintendo handhelds, it's always at least 20 as far as I can remember.

>>13873715
Well unless all the grunts on the enemy turn kindly nestle themselves into a flanked position on their turn, that doesn't really help my point.

>>13873720
You call it, taste getting in the way of you using a perfectly capable character.

While Zeta might be midgame filler tier in some games, Kamille is always one of the best gundam pilots whenever he's around.

>>13873723
The fixed cost games use 20 which is okay for my tastes.

10 SP Strike just feels absurd because of how powerful Strike is as a spirit.

>>13873726
This is going to be a shock but perhaps you should try to maneuver your units into a position where they can flank the enemy.

Y'know, seeing as how this is supposed to be a strategy game

>>13873645
Lockon negates Double Image, but it doesn't negate things like Curse of Geass which are tied to the pilot. As far as I know, you only fight one enemy with that once (Suzaku himself, of course, on one of the story missions - I think one of the 7s?) outside of the sim missions.

As an aside, as much as I hate the Strike nerf, I grudgingly allow the Flash/Alert nerf, because it was normal in Neo (so was Strike) and as it turns out, on command instant dodging is broken as shit, news at eleven. As for Strike, I'm annoyed at it, but I'm more incensed at things like, say, Kouji Innacurate Asshole Kabuto NOT GETTING ANY ACCURACY BOOSTING SPIRITS THE FUCK.

>>13873670
Exhaust is only on like four units though.

>>13873696
Solo units who are a part of squads tend to be that way. Especially things like the solo TC-ISS Scopedogs.

>>13873729
I can't think of a game where the Zeta itself was particularly amazing before Z1

I mean usually it's alright, but it'll have problems like not getting Waverider Crash until six stages from the end of the game and being pretty weak before that, or Waverider Crash only being available in MA mode for some reason. Or having an abysmal EN pool like most Gundams despite having 2-3 EN heavy attacks.

It's definitely a monster in the Z series though.

>>13873734
>Solo units who are a part of squads tend to be that way. Especially things like the solo TC-ISS Scopedogs.
Can't be helped, that's just the stupidity of the mission design in general forcing it on you - I wouldn't be surprised if unit design and mission design were done by two different teams

>>13873732
Well yeah, that's why it's mostly only overpowered assholes that get 10 SP Strikes. Or Lamia getting a cheap Strike as an apology for not having it in AP.

>>13873733
So I guess the enemy is so outnumbered you can afford to flank each and every grunt, no reinforcements ever respawn in awkward places, and they never focus fire or target things that have trouble hitting them.

...so what's the fucking point of strategy then?

>>13873734
Which is exactly enough units to use in the multi part missions.

>>13873738
Banpresto is really wishy washy when it comes to EN. Like how for the longest while, EN was dirt cheap to upgrade and gave you a 200% bonus at 10 bars.

>>13873742
OE much like Neo does not encourage the player to try and send out solo death gods to take on the enemy horde.

You send your characters as either one big death ball or a bunch of little groups in order to reduce the likely hood of you getting exploded by surround on enemy phase or asshole bombs.

>>13873729
Thankfully no SRW game I've ever played has had so few good characters I've been forced to use King Shitlord outside of plot events, at least late game.

>>13873751
I suppose this kind of thinking is why most people cry about Scene 9 in MX.

>>13873738
Where did the name for Waverider Crash originate anyways? It's like one of the only Gundam attacks I can think of that's not mentioned by name at some point in the show. Was it called that in a Gunpla manual or something before it appeared in SRW?

I ask the same question about Big O's weapons too. Where the hell were those ever given names outside of SRW?

>>13873741
Or Vanilla A.

>>13873758
SRW usually just calls it Assault or Waverider Assault.

>>13873759
At least she was a Cyber Newtype there.

Although I did just realize that OG2 obviously came out before AP.

>>13873759
Man, Axel and Lamia getting Newtype/Enhanced Human retconned sure did a thing to them.

>>13873767
Only if you picked RR IIRC,

>>13873747
Yeah, except it also means you have to do things like keep the Axe Bomber or the Gawain in the line of fire taking hits to raise their SP, and that's not recommended at all.

>>13873754
Most likely.

>>13873758
>I ask the same question about Big O's weapons too.

Side material, if my memory serves. Most are references to literature or stage things though.

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>>13873738
For me Zeta has been a nice grunt killer in D, the Launcher is good enough since Kamille gets assault early and you need Newtype lv5 to use the Biosensor attacks (that's around lv20-25). Isn't Z1 Zeta but gets the job done.

>>13873780
I usually just craft SP items for them or have Quarter spam Sing.

>>13873750
So the enemy never focus fires or targets things that have trouble hitting them, ok.

I don't mean 'send Zeorymer in to solo the map', I mean sometimes shit happens like 'well this slowass unupgraded SR showed up and is probably about to take some hits, would be nice if he could hit back' or 'a bunch of grunts slipped past me in J and are going to rush the battleship, would be nice if all these counterattacks hit'. Or even just 'this bot is going to prolly take maybe 3-4 attacks and is kind of inaccurate; wouldn't it be nice if I could just pop 15-20 SP and not worry instead of 10-20 several times in a row?'.

Apparently though, OE throws out so many buffs you can just wad everything up in one super-squad and mash counterattack and never miss. I guess that's cool?

>>13873780
>Yeah, except it also means you have to do things like keep the Axe Bomber or the Gawain in the line of fire taking hits to raise their SP
Consume your SP drinks, Apollo

>>13873785
D and R have the Double Launcher combos, at least.

That said, if you want a game where Zeta is fucking great, F. Not Final, F by itself.

>>13873789
>>13873792
Oh right, items.

Yeah.

As for the Quarter, you only get that in one out of the many story stages, so Sing isn't always an option.

>>13873751
>King Shitlord
Who?

>>13873795
MX has Double Launcher as well, and @DC has a Triple Launcher adding GP-03.

>>13873813
Pick your least favorite robutt pilot.

In this case Kamille.

>>13873790
OE is about taking advantage of the many different mechanics to boost up unit hit. Otherwise get get Kouji Kabuto cannot hit anything as Matt described earlier.

>>13873813
I think he's still talking about Kamille.

>>13873759
Mobility was your accuracy modifier instead of 140 in Advance, so you technically-had upgradeable accuracy. So it was possible to get good hitrates on people who tended to have shitty ones.

>>13873754
Also 'oh hey? you know how routes split and you normally can just take the one that has most of the units you like? well TOUGH SHIT you get to babysit everyone now'.

Even then MX was generally fairly easy enough for it not to be the end of the world.

>>13873836
>Also 'oh hey? you know how routes split and you normally can just take the one that has most of the units you like? well TOUGH SHIT you get to babysit everyone now'.

I remember that split. 90% my good people were on one split so I had:
Getter G for the Dragonar finale due to the Dragonar MC being a total idiot
Rom for the Nadesico finale
Domon for the Grendizer finale

>>13873747
How much of a difference does 15 bars make in SRWZ1?

I'm trying to get to the Special Mode and throw God Gravion at ZEUTH (in Hard Mode, of course) to see how well it does, how well do you think it will do?

>>13873858
At 15 upgrades? Borderline unhittable and anything that does hit will barely scratch the paint.

>>13873854
It got even worse in Impact, dear god. MX wasn't as dedicated to hating you and everything you stand for.... especially if what you stand for is completionism.

>>13873858
>How much of a difference does 15 bars make in SRWZ1?
EN: +50
Mobility: +25 (1:1 with Evasion)
Targetting: +30 (1:1 with Hitrate)
Attack Power: +1500 regardless of tier, this includes map attacks
I can't remember if HP and Armor have different upgrade tiers. Either way it's probably something like 1500-2000 HP and 300-400 armor.

>>13873854
I always make a note of trying to make use out of every main character unit unless I REALLY don't like it, or think it sucks.

>>13873865
Impact wasn't bad

then again I cheated and had all the dosh.

>>13873874
that's true, For my first UX run I think I put every lead unit to 5 bars and had enough for Demonbane, Odyessa, and Liber Liegis to get to 10 bars

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HAPPY SINGLE AWARENESS DAY FROM ARKANSAS

>>13873901
I like how, even past the point of no return, Kyosuke still doesn't look sure that this was a good idea.

>>13873332
It's actually the EVOL/Sousei crossover OVA plus the first episode of Logos.

>>13873908
Even a man who doesn't mind betting on tough odds has his limits, huh.

>>13873908
He's probably worried about having enough ammo for the wedding night

>>13873911
or maybe at the crazy shit Excellen planned for the party.

Like having it at Shine's place

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>>13873924

>>13873924
Level 1 friendship

>>13873999
You think OGMD'll fix that?

>>13874036
If Banpresto doesn't just copy-paste the relationship values from the first half of OGG with minor edits maybe

>Rei Ayanami Valentine's Day Eva 00
>if you do the 50 cost drop, you get a Rei Ayanami Valentine's Day Support Unit

Something here deeply unsettles me.

>>13874085
Could Rei have been like a mother to you?

Huh, new update to SRC Dungeon, nothing too big, and a new update for SRW GS, by the same guy who's been doing SRW NOVA, glad to see he's still keeping up with it. Latest entry in GS seems to end with Quattro getting the Gundam Tyrant Sword and Amuro getting the Gundam Killer.

>>13874152
Adding to that, the most recent stage put Burn Burnings in the Deceive IV...the Machina known as Pretender.

I assume besides being an example of the kind of thing this guy likes to do with his scenarios, that's a VA joke, yeah?

>>13874174
> that's a VA joke, yeah?
Yup.

>>13874174
>Deceive IV

Speaking of that, do we ever see Deceive II or Deceive III?

>>13874184
Not in the manga, that I ever saw.

Speaking of Aoyama, I actually think he looks better when he's scruffy and allied with you than regular and your enemy.

>>13874256
Well yeah, friendly trucker or smug asshole CEO. Which would rather not punch in the face?

>>13873911

All he has to do is penetrate.

>>13873908
Someone post that 4koma where Kyosuke says he doesn't mind betting on tough odds.

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Good morning /srwg/, and happy valentines day!

I hope you have a great day with your loved one.

Who do I put in the GP02 in @?
I was thinking either Judau or Four

>>13874152
>Gundam Killer.
I'm surprised anyone remembers what that is.

>>13874414
It's from Gaia Saver or Battle Dodgeball, isn't it?
I think only Ace Killer was in Hero Senki.

>>13874439
I know, I just that only a few ultranerds remember what that is.

>>13874446
I mean, I honestly don't remember where he's from, only that there are three killers... or was it just Ultra Killer and Gundam Killer? I don't remember there being a Rider Killer.

>>13874391
>tfw no platinum lucifer to revolve your stake into

>>13874439
>Gaia Saver

Oh, did Euzeth filch the name for that from something else he was in, too?

>>13874411
Whoever has a Spirit bank you like I guess.

>>13874453
It's a SNES game. Mio even references it in Dark Prison, when other people explain who Alteur's soldiers are. Mark Hunter (guy in golden armor that is playable in Endless Frontier) is originally from Gaia Saver.

Euzeth wasn't in it, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCRm5IG0Grg

>>13874462
>Mark Hunter
His song is fucking awesome.

>>13874411
Four has Miracle, doesn't she? So she could probably pop a shitton of enemies at once with the mapw and rake in a ton of cash and then get hilariously-overlevelled.

>>13873199

They'll be exactly the same just with different heads because the Gundam branch of Bandai are whiny little bitches that are too lazy to actually put effort into their work.

>>13874461
Then which is your favourite girl
Puru or Chris?

>>13874566
I guess Chris but only if we're talking non-gameplay cuz I don't remember her being good in Alpha 1

>>13874572
All right Puru is going to nuke some suckers then

>>13874508
I put a severely underleveled Burning in the GP02 on I think the next to last stage of @1, where you fight Scirocco and Shapiro. He had the 2x EXP seishin, and he ended up jumping like 40 levels.

It was amazing.

http://superrobotwars.wikia.com/wiki/Skill

Most new games don't have the Special Spirit Commands except Love?

>>13874684
Courage is in some of the newer games; didn't even exist until @2, IIRC.

There was a new (fairly useful) one introduced in the OGs games as a twin seishin; Ing has it. Forget what it's called but it casts Accelerate, Assault, and Fury.

How would you remake MX /srwg/?
Here's my idea:

スーパーロボット大戦MXR

マジンカイザー
マジンカイザー 死闘!暗黒大将軍
● ゲッターロボ大決戦!
● グレンダイザー ギガ
勇者王ガオガイガーFINAL
闘将ダイモス
マシンロボ クロノスの大逆襲
GEAR戦士電童
● ゼノギアス
冥王計画 ゼオライマー
勇者ライディーン
● REIDEEN
ラーゼフォン
機動武闘伝Gガンダム
機動戦士Zガンダム
機動戦士ガンダムZZ
機動戦士ガンダム:逆襲のシャア
ガンダム・センチネル
機甲戦記ドラグナー
● ファイブスター物語
機動戦艦ナデシコ -The prince of darkness-
ヱヴァンゲリヲン新劇場版

Some series like Mazinger, Eva... are replaced by their newer version, but some original elements are still retained (Mazinger movies' plotline, End of Eva still happen)
Some other ones get upgraded (Great Zeorymer, Hi-Nu, G Gundam manga units), and especially Raideen will get a new gold/silver form kinda like Chouja Raideen, and a combination attack with the full gold one.
Animation will me a mix between 2ndOG and Z3 quality, Arios-san is gonna have a lot of fun with UC Gundam and Dragonar units this time .
New music for old series, preferably vocal ones.
TRI system will return and reworked, and capture system from GC/XO will make an appearance.
How do you guy think about all this?

>>13874699
MX was one of the better ones; why remake what ain't broken?

A new SRW with some of these might be fun. Lord knows another shot at RahXephon and Zeorymer would be appreciated.

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>>13874712
>all boards

>>13874699
Why don't we remake IMPACT instead?
Followed by the classic timeline and Z3

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>>13874712

>>13874721
>Remake Impact
>Remove the shit loading times
>Newer animations for everything
>Put back Minerva X

Sign me up

>>13874707
Maybe it's kinda the same reason why they decided to remake FF7.

>>13874727
Money?

>>13874730
They would have remake Alpha trilogy if thats the case

>>13874730
Is it ever not money?

>>13874726
The loading times weren't nearly as bad as the ACCESS THE FUCKING MEMORY CARD times. You could take a shower or eat dinner between telling Impact to load up your list of savefiles and it actually doing it.

>>13874733
No no no; I meant BRING IN money, not piss it away.

Now that Giant Robo costs a bazillion dollars to license good luck ever seeing it in SRW again.

>>13874726
Also trim about 10-20 stages off.
And have the rag tension mechanic to speed up everything.
Also Valour is back to doing 2x damage and Banjo gets Soul back

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>>13874741
Just remove GR and add TTGL and Diebuster

>>13874748
What the heck is "rag tension" mechanic?

>>13874750
Those wouldn't even fit the hole Giant Robo left, I'd say Shin Mazinger or G Gundam could maybe do it.

>>13874750
Wasn't one (or two) Z3(s) bad enough?

>>13874767
>implying its not Evol that killed Z3

>>13874764
That thing you do with Rag.
And no its not sex

>>13874690
Courage isn't in @2: http://srw-alpha-2.seesaa.net/article/6950107.html

>Forget what it's called but it casts Accelerate, Assault, and Fury.
強襲 (Assault/Violent Attack)? It's in BX, too.

>>13874771
Make her my co-pilot for the early-game because she has Focus while Jiron and Chill doesn't?

>>13874764
You wash your partner with a rag on a stick.

>>13874774
Now that would be a fantastic mechanic.
Actually wouldn't it be nice if you could wash your favourite OGs back.

>>13874764
Attach an object to the rag, then let it hang. Upward force is now rag tension.

>>13874766
They tried filling that hole in @2-3 as it was to varying success.

GoShogun and its Docougar assholes really feel like they were just around to fill in the absurdly powerful mafia/weirdass psychic powers hole left by the BF and Big Fire himself. imagine how much more messed up the whole GanEden incident would have been with another ESPer monster on the loose.

@1 setting up the BF as SEELE's big rivals and then dropping the former completely really took the wind out of Eva's sails when it returned in 3. It was really telling when they phoned it in so badly the second half of Eva's lone stage of plot relevance was 95% copied from @Dreamcast's additional end stages, battle in the LCL lake and all. I suppose you could try to fit in some new group of assholes to piss off SEELE and fight Angels on foot, but, uh. Good luck with that.

>>13874766
You mean like in terms of popularity or something? I mean, I thought it wasn't that much of a big hit in Japan and was only slightly more well-known in the west.

Or if we're talking about story... well, Giant Robo didn't end up amounting to much anyway because they couldn't get it back for Alpha 2/3 - with that in mind I would say it's actually more removable/rewritable than figuring out where the hell F91 and Victory fucked off to.

>>13874788
Then let's ask the general.

Which OG's back would you wash?

>>13874796
Aqua, Carla and Katina's.

Kai, Land and Crowe for manly bonding and bromance.

>>13874796
Sanger or Ibis

Get in, kid.

The sahib institute has chosen you to pilot one of its new robots.

But do you have the balls to be the one who will save the world from Dinosaur Hebrews from Neptune?

>>13874792
F91 turned into Crossbone, and its cast retired to bake bread and/or be students, all while banging their respective waifus.

Victory's surviving cast retired after they managed to make Katejina's fate somehow even more depressing than in the show.

>>13874792
F91 turned into Crossbone and then they quit, the real question is why they didn't use Skull Heart or Steel Seven.
I think Uso quit the team after Gaiden and so he took his show and all the future tech with him.

But I mostly meant those two shows to fill in the Imagawa super human hole and maybe upgrade Sayaka's mech to not complete trash

>>13874805
Which Neptune?
The planet or the multimedia franchise?
Either way yes

>>13874805
Sure, why not.
What do I have to do, old man?

>>13874809
They didn't use Steel Seven because FUCK Steel Seven.

>>13874769
>implying that Evol was the lone cancer, or even worst of it

>>13874814
It's not like they wouldn't have saved everyone considering they only died due to the lack of time and fighters.
When you think about it those seven pretty much got stuck in a Musou with no army to back them.

>>13874772
Oh right; @3 introduced it didn't it.

Also haven't played BX yet, but 2nd OGs predates it anyway.

>>13874805

Of course, old man. However, I don't know sahibspeak, so probably I will have to improvise and learn by trial and error how the machine works

>>13874818
Non-DLC Crossbone appearance with at least half a dozen units and characters in DW Gundam wheeeeeeeeeeeeen.

>>13874819
I was pointing out it's in BX because it didn't vanish completely from the series, since none of the SRWs released after 2nd OGs but before BX had it.

>>13874790
>Goshogun
I'd say "Fuck you, now I have that song in my head", but I really like it, so it's cool.

>>13874796

Naked back washing? If true, all the OG females.

>>13874828
uchuu spehss namba wan

>>13874805
>do you have the balls to be the one who will save the world from Dinosaur Hebrews from Neptune
As long as it isn't Jupiter I'm on, Sahib.

>>13874828
GASHIN GO GASSHIN GO
SENGOKU MAJIN GOSHOGUN!

>>13874838
GoShogun's fancy title always confused me. Did the Good Thunder at some point actually teleport them back to the Warring States long enough to scare the piss out of everything, or was it just tacked on to make the name sound cool? Knowing what little I know about the show makes it sound both possible and hilarious.

Did anyone update the OG female tier pic?

>>13873452
Thres dick,pussy or nipllein this pic

>>13874842
It is apparently a parody, so it's likely to make the thing sound even sillier. This is the same show with a general whose ambition is to start a fast-food chain.

>>13874796
Soulgain.

>>13874805
Depends, does it look cool?
Knowing you it's probably a shitty Astranagant/R-Gun rip-off.

>>13874712
Well, you just need to report problematic posts and the mods will get to it sooner or later.

>>13873492
I suppose if they made them really dodgy and tanky, they'd be annoying.
Though I'd assume that while Walker would be present on the field, it'd be all the way over on the other side of the map and you aren't supposed to kill it/ be able to kill it in the first place (though killing it on these maps will probably be a requirement for secrets.

>>13873510
It's more creepy when you consider that this thing does nothing more than stalk the island at all times.

>>13873320
OG anime made by Murakami WHEN?

>2 years later
>still no full PV

https://www.youtube.com/user/nbgi/videos

Why is Banpresto so lazy?

>>13874449
According to the data files for Gaia Saver units made by the SRC community, there was a Rider Killer as well.

Speaking of, since Amuro's Gundam Killer sparked a little bit of discussion about him, that same SRC game had Mark Hunter playable, in his own Gespenst and Gespenst Mk. II.

>listening to random things on youtube

> Mattman324 6 days ago
>As an aside, "Flying Shadow" is "Tobikage". The proper translation is probably something more along the lines of "Tobikage Has Arrived".

WHO CARES

>>13875113
>Flying Mattman Spotted!
Hide your YGO cards

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>>13875116

>>13875131
Oh Odd-Eyes Rebellion, you gloriously ridiculous clusterfuck of a design

>>13875064
I'd rather have them do things slowly than rush it out the door. There's other things you can do while waiting but a rushed game can't be fixed easily.

>>13875116
HOROBI NO

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAASTO STOOOOOOOOOORIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMU

>>13874830
Naked back washing is only for your other half.

The rest of the time, it's normal back washing.

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>>13875204
>normal back washing
>not naked

>>13875208
I don't know how you wash your backs, but I do mine with some clothes on.

>>13875204
>>13875216


SRW is anime as fuck, and in anime almost always the back washing is done naked.

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>>13875216
>but I do mine with some clothes on.
Lame and gay.

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>>13875131
>>13875155
Clear Wing best Dragon, others can go away.

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>>13874830
>ALL the OG females.
Very well dear, I'll go get ready.

I want to smother Alfimi is liquefied chocolate.

>>13875220
I suppose, but back washing is not common in anime... I think.

>>13875227
Then I'll do it naked next time, geez!

>>13875360

Good thing she's dead. I dodged a bullet there

>>13875372
That's pretty irrelevant for fictional characters. Doesn't stop me from fantasizing about Ouka.

>>13875384
>That's pretty irrelevant for fictional characters

Indeed.
All the crushes I've ever had on girls were ones who got killed off.

How does a terrain affect the damage output in these games, anyway?

>>13875424
In games where it goes up to S, S is 1.1, A is 1.0, B is 0.8, and C is 0.6. And it's used to modify the damage before armor.

(((Stat+Will)/200)*Attack Power)*Terrain Adjustment

For pre-damage armor, just replace "Stat" with "Defense" and "Attack Power" with "Armor".

>>13875424
Some terrain gives you more EN back per turn, which means you can use more damaging attacks. Other terrains give a bit of HP back, which mean you have to hit things or be hit by things harder.

That's about it I think.

>>13875429
How does Valor or Soul affect this?

>>13873190
Bellzelute.
I wished there was an option to jettison the co-pilot during the space stages, but no such luck.

I am dying in a month Banpresto where the fuck is the PV

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>TFW No Zillion in SRW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfxI1jTn-jM
Would be good alongside Megazone and Moespada. Sadly is more easy a shitNatsume Miku robot.

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>Yukarin will never voice a OG character

>>13875442
Hot Blood is a 2x multiplier of... final damage before Barriers, I think? Except in A, Impact, and C3, where it's 1.5x, Neo and OE, where it's 1.5/2/2.5x depending on cost, and a few early games where Hot Blood was a guaranteed crit and crits were 2x (which I think meant the same thing in terms of end damage).

Soul is the same, but with 3x/2.5x/2.2x damage depending on game.

>>13875442
I believe it's the very last thing calculated because it multiplies the damage you would've done by whatever the game's deciding Valor and Soul are.

>>13875487
Yukari Tamura? She's Mii in Project X Zone if that counts. If not, then no, she hasn't voiced one yet

>>13875490
so it would be (1.5x, 2x, 3x, etc.) times what >>13875429 said, before or after defense stat?
Did defense even exist in Winky era?

>>13875501
She's got a cute voice, at least she got to stick around the PxZ zone by voicing that Star Gladiator girl. Even uses Mii's verbal tic at least once.

>>13875509
It's calculated in-between Terrain and Barriers, I think, both of which are after passive attack power modifiers.

>Did defense even exist in Winky era?
No. Not until @G. Which is why Armor is mostly-useless in Winkysoft games unless you cast Iron Wall, which would double or triple your armor. In those games, Armor was a function entirely of your Will and the terrain you were standing on, and it was 1% up or down per point of Will, I think.

Speaking of which, the formula I told you is not the Winkysoft formula.

>>13875532
What is the winkysoft formula, then?

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>>13875473
>Excellen VA
Best girl!

>>13875553
What a shitty face.

>>13875532
>which would double or triple your armor.

And it still means fucking nothing once enemy power reaches a certain point.

Now, that point changes depending on game - Shin runs on Winkysoft, but it gets away with much lower armor because the general power is much lower - but in general, after 5000+, you've already gotten to the point where you can blow things out of the water, and enemies can blow you out of the water, regardless of your defensive measures.

>>13875501
>Embryo and Hilda are the main characters in PxZ
Well both wants Ange pussy so hard

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>>13875556
>Hating 1980 girls
Faggot, pls

>>13875571
It's not the era I hate.
It's how her head is drawn in one perspective, but her face is drawn in another.

>>13875543
((Stat/100)*Attack Power)*(Will/100)*Terrain.
I think DR is just "((Will/100)*Armor)*Terrain". I have no idea what the Winkysoft terrain modifiers are.

>>13875604
That's why Will is the god stat in Winky games, right?

>>13875611
Yeah. It increases the derived value. So at 200 Melee+150 will, Dankuukougaken in @1 has 18600 damage before spirits and Ferocity.

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>>13874790
>imagine how much more messed up the whole GanEden incident would have been with another ESPer monster on the loose.

Wasn't the rumour that Irui was a sub for Big Fire anyway?

Speaking of, do we have the rest of this manga anywhere?

>>13875634
18900. Sorry. Because it's 6300 at max upgrades.

>>13875634
And before upgrades?

>>13875634
Well damn.
What would be the lowest damage possible with the same stats involved, using the Vulcans on a GM Custom or something? Still around Breast Fire's base?

>>13875649
Fuck if I remember. I never saved the strategy guide pictures.

>>13875654
Aren't Vulcans 900 or something? In which case you'd barely have enough to get through the enemy's armor.

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HERE WE GO
COUNT ZERO

>>13875661
A few are 800, a few are 900, a very small number are stronger.

Smallest attack I can find is Drill Missile, which is 700 on normal Mazinger Z and Mazinger Z JS (Powered is at 900, so eh.). Jinrei Robo Mk 1 also has a 700 power attack.

>>13875695
COUSTWELLFAGS BTFO
Are there people who actually like vanilla Coustwell? It's ugly as fuck. Brachium is fine though.

>>13875713
I thought it was okay, no strong feelings either or

>>13875501
>>13875562
Too bad the PxZ OGs were pretty shitty in general, I'm glad they didn't return for PxZ2.

>>13875604
If that's the case, , let me do some math..
Let's assume the game is Compact, wherein we have Daba with a ranged stat of 150 at max will of 150 in L-Gaim outfitted with 4 V-UPS, while fully upgraded(Buster Launcher- single target mind you, map does more damage- has 6500 Attack Power) on A terrain.
So, ((150/100)*6500)*(150/100)*1.0 , which means 14,625 damage before calculating defense
Assuming he uses Soul, multiply that by 3, you get 43,875, which is enough damage to one shot Don Sauzer, the final boss of the game.

As for the map, that does 7300 at max upgrades, ((150/100)*7300)*(150/100)*1.0 , which yields 16425 damage, and after casting Soul, results in 49,275 damage on a MAP
A little underwhelming, but it is Compact

>>13875725
I liked them.

>>13875686
>Jinrei
You mean Ginrei. And those shitty attacks aren't even worth spending money on because they cap at some retarded low number like 2050.

Is Dankuukougaken non-pointblank? Because I think Dankuuhou Formation MIGHT do more due to it not being pointblank and @1's weirdness about attack ranges affecting power.

>>13875695

Damn, I never noticed how slim its legs were. I wonder how the hell they can resist the whole weight of the mecha. And they kinda remind me of the legs of the upgraded mecha from K

>>13875737
You're one of the few who did then.

>>13875735
>results in 49,275 damage on a MAP
>A little underwhelming

...You do realize that in those games, the max possible HP was like 65525, yes?

That's not underwhelming. That's fucking terrifying.

>>13875737
>You mean Ginrei

Yes, her.

>Is Dankuukougaken non-pointblank?

It's 1-3, and base Dankuukougaken is stronger than Dankuuhou Formation at like 50%.

>>13875750
subtle sarcasm, dear matt

>>13875756
Don't worry, Matt can't understand stuff like that.

>>13875740
>I wonder how the hell they can resist the whole weight of the mecha.
Orgone, son.
And that ain't a problem for an airborne unit anyway.

>>13875713
>Are there people who actually like vanilla Coustwell?

It's okay, like Shining Gundam with a few differences here and there. Design-wise, I wish it was red instead of purple.

>>13875896
Speaking of purple, if we ever see the third Grungust Type 2, would you all rather it be @1's Kai in terms of coloration, or black?

>>13875906
Black, I guess.

You just reminded me that I still want to see the Type 3 with OGIN's alternate paintjob for it.

>>13875926
I don't think that exists in OG? We're on the third and final of the Type 3s.

>>13875940
I know, but I still think it looks better than the red ones we're always stuck with.

>>13876004
Ring a CUTE
CUTE

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>>13876022
Not with that character design.

>>13876058
Grace is my favorite. I like Mefill, too. Man, that's two strikes against me already, so here's the third one: I think Ruri is cuter than Al.

After playing a few SRWs with them included, I'm currently downloading Nadesico.

Because that's what you do if there's a show you have interest in, right?

>>13875896
It actually reminds me of a bulkier Tekkaman with Shining moves

>>13876113
Pretty much, yeah. Nadesico is a hell of a ride, so have fun!

>>13876113
That's how 60% of the shows on my Hard drive came to be,

>>13876113
It is.

>>13876113
I really need to watch more stuff. My experience of actually watching stuff so far is 90% of Godannar, all of Kotetsushin Jeeg, SKL and Gun x Sword, and I've got Gorg still sitting around unwatched.

>>13876160
Everyone starts small, don't sweat it. You'll watch a lot more over time.

>>13875558
Oh look mattman's talking out of his ass again.

Doubling Mazinkaizer's armor in Alpha 1 (last hurrah of the shitty winkyformula) meant the difference in the endgame between getting one-shot and barely scratching the paint.

Nearing the end of Z2.1, while I'm happy DMs aren't a pain and I'm surprised that Zuell isn't a pain as Lorgenorme (What is the ideal strat for him anyways?). I feel like that for bosses like that the accuracy is mostly 0% them, then again, for the entirety of the first part most of my upgrades were to get God Mars to maximum, any tips for the end?

>>13876189
>(last hurrah of the shitty winkyformula)

Oh look, Anon's talking out of his ass again. A, the later parts of Compact 2, and Compact 3 also had it.

And Kaiser (or Powered Mazinger, or Dancouga) will still die in one hit to most lategame bosses.

>>13876195

Z2.1 isn't that hard by the end, the only real curve ball is a new DM on the final stage plus a midboss.

Z2.2 is a cockslap though. You feel pretty overpowered until the Gold DMs turn up and wave their thunder erections around.

>>13876160

Find what sort of robot stuff you like. You sounds like a Super type guy. I'm more of a Real myself.

>>13876160
>>13876168
Shit man, I finished Z2 like 2 and half years ago and I just finished Gravion like 10 minutes ago. Zwei is next. At some point you'll watch enough shows to fill a cast list.

>>13876198
>playing the Compacts
>obviously hasn't played Alpha 1

A I never got around to before Portable, but who gives a shit.

>>13876210
Yeah, I probably am. All throughout my SRW experience I've more preferred the super types over the reals.

>>13876211
I probably should experience more before I go on about my own vague concepts for a SRW game. Though I do like my vague concept for a low power SRW, so I'll probably end up still trying to keep it together even though I've seen nothing from its prospective cast.

>>13876221
If you want to work on a series list but haven't seen the involved series, you should bump those up on your watch list.

>>13876236
Duly noted, yeah. Though I wonder about the availability of some of those, be it whether the subs are crabsticks or if the downloads are just hard to find. Where's that list so I can bump it back up...


スーパーロボット大戦TX

鉄人28号
勇者ライディーン
UFOロボグレンダイザー
無敵超人ザンボット3
機動戦士ガンダム
機動戦士ガンダムMSV
機動戦士ガンダム外伝
百獣王ゴライオン
六神合体ゴッドマーズ
巨神ゴーグ
機甲戦記ドラグナー
機動戦士ガンダム0080 ポケットの中の戦争
宇宙の騎士テッカマンブレード
機動戦士ガンダム第08MS小隊
地球防衛企業ダイ・ガード
マブラヴALTERNATIVE

Most of those are easy enough, I'd say. (Went ahead and removed the SD Gundam G series entry as well as Iczer and Dangaioh while I was at it. They probably didn't fit enough)

What's the plot of the Tetsujin sequel that had an older Shotaro? That might fit more in-line with the concept I had for Tetsujin in general in the story, but I didn't know if the plot might somehow clash with it. I could always BS an older Shotaro using classic Tetsujin for no reason, SRC scenarios do a lot weirder than that.

My SRW is going to have such a pedestrian cast.

MSG, 0080, 8th MS Team, OYW-related MSVs, Dragonar, Grendizer, OVA Mazinkaiser, Raideen, Godsigma, and some other stuff I haven't thought of yet.

>>13876304
Man I just realized I was working on mine. And the fact that I took out Lamune means I need to rewrite 90% of it's plot. Because it's various zones was how I was going to explain the various different series. And now I can't do that.

I think I may have screwed myself over.

>>13876382
Yeah, aside from Godsigma (which I bet is there because of Z rather than the show itself) it's way, way too vanilla if you ask me. Remember, a fangame's greatest strength is that you can do whatever you want without having to worry about execs or rights or whatever, so you can go a bit wilder than just a bunch of series that are already mainstays.

>>13876419
I want to start slow, and get used to the Eternity Engine (whenever that's done). I don't have this "SRW I've always wanted to make" in my head. I just don't think I'm capable of the same level of creativity as the rest of you.

>>13876506
If you don't have creativity in the series choice, make up with it in creativity with the events in the game.

>>13876304
You can find a summary of it at rokettopanchii blogspot /2012/11/tetsujin-28-fx

from there
>In the 21st century robot development has advanced greatly. Supreme Ruler Zone has created his own organization the New Black Army and has declared a war against humanity using his robots. The one to stand up against his army is the new Tetsujin robot: Testujin 28 FX.
>The series starts off at the World Robot Competition which is showing off various robots of the world which includes America’s Tetsujin 18 Iron Eagle, China’s Tetsujin 24 Sekiryugou, France’s Tetsujin 25 Mirage and Guiena’s Tetsujin 26 Jumbo. The first to be shown off was the original Tetsujin 28 and its pilot the famous Shotaro. Shotaro has continued to use Tetsujin 28 over the years and has created the Kaneda Junior Detective Agency and got married to a woman named Yoko who is robot engineer. Yoko is the one who created Tetsujin 28 FX but the Grid Lancer wasn’t completed in time for the show so it was to be a no show.
>During the World Robot Contest however the Neo Black Army appears with Devilcuto, taking this opportunity to declare war on the world and capture the robots shown at the show. However Yoko managed to finish the Grid Lancer on time which is taken by Masato who uses Tetsujin 28 FX to save the day.
>Mastao is the son of Shotaro and Yoko who went missing one day and tells his story of how he was on a plane which was captured by the Neo Black Army, trained by them to become a pilot (if you control a robot you are a pilot, regardless of being in the robot or not) along with others. However Masato tells a story of how he had a daring escape and returned that day to be the hero and pilot Tetsujin 28 FX. Masato afterwards included in the Kaneda Junior Detective Agency which includes Saburo, Futaba, Shiori and Genichi.

Has Raijin-oh been subbed?
Because I can't find jack shit

>>13877002
I think it might be a case where you need to buy the official DVDs still, unless someone ripped em at some point.

>>13877014
Fuck it's been officially released?

Every once in a while, I look at Impact, and I consider playing/recording it.
Then I remember its reputation and go back to recording random grunt mechs in Compact.
Speaking of which, what were Gavlet's and Olibee's mechs called?

>>13877031
Screenshots, please?

New thread: >>13877040

>>13875713

I'm glad that if Coustwell is in the game, that it's not with Calvina, Bellezute suits her much better.

I mean, ideally, Tenia would be piloting Coustwell solo for maximum ATATATATATATA without having to bench either of the other J mechs, but we already know shes gonna be part of the Granteed sub trio unfortunately.