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19ep."The Gravity of Wishes" preview pics
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>>13871960
she's dieing soon right?
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>>13871979
There are only six or seven episodes to go - the best she could do is last three.

Unless, of course, she survives a one-episode fight and shows up in the final confrontation. You never know with this show.
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>>13871985
At the rate things are going, all the noteworthy antagonists will survive. Sort of like Wing, but shorter.
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>>13871985
her secret brother will show up first
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>>13871985

Really six or seven, they should have paced this out better. Just fucking around in space with filler and having one battle every 4-5 episodes is just terrible.
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>>13872015

It's hard to believe the atrocious pacing was actually planned.
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>>13871979
Yes
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>>13871979
She'll get the same amount of lines as Fumitan and you'll see the tumours on the internet and /a/ posting
>Wahhh best girl died!!! Curse you Okada!!!!!!!!
>When were you when best girl died???
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>>13872015
Sorry, I wasn't including the new ep. So we've got possibly eight in total. Either way, we're still, somehow, going nowhere fast.
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>>13871960
Wishing weighs your soul down with gravity.
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>>13872015
You just don't understand what IBO was trying to say. Real war isn't battles every day; it's politics, diplomacy, and achieving real goals. Just shooting and killing doesn't change anything.
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>>13871960
Another preview pic
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>>13872081
How can a show with such great sakuga look so shitty normally?
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>>13871960
>STARES

For fuck sake, it looks like even the mecha are staring at nothing.
Jesus, this is supposed to be an action episode, can't they just fucking show the mecha not staring at nothing?
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>>13872088
>a show with such great sakuga
Did you post in the wrong thread?
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>>13872088
>IBO
>sakuga

What?
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>>13871993

Only four antagonists survived in Wing though.

Treize, Quinze, Dermail, Tsubarov, Trant and all the other Oz grunts got killed.
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>yfw Pirate arc felt like filler because Sunrise had to shoehorn a Grimoire knock-off after seeing how much it sold
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>>13872126
Pirate arc gave us a third Gundam.

Can't have only two Gundams in a show, now can you?
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>>13872118

Treize wasn't an antagonist.
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>>13871979
>dat fuck awful design
So that's how they make sure people understand that a woman is a villain without making her into a landwhale.
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>>13872079
>it's politics, diplomacy, and achieving real goals.
barely any of this has happened though, it just alludes to stuff that happened in the past or stuff that people plan to do in the future.
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>>13872079
>Just shooting and killing doesn't change anything.

Changes a lot in reality, given how a lot of wars tend to turn out.
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>>13872506
>it just alludes to stuff that happened in the past or stuff that people plan to do in the future.
IBO really is shallow as a puddle

It has a lot of ideas that are very obvious, but doesn't build them up in an interesting meaningful way. There is no actual political thinking and strategy going on, the most it get is "I want to kill woman to start war" "what if we don't?" "good idea!" None of these parts have interesting interlocking threads, we don't even know what the old men do in any detail. Kudelia can just phone up a old man and because he is old and rich he has contacts and powers to effect news a whole fucking planet away in no time at all. There is literally nothing more to that bit, there is no how just the story needed it so he has a contact and enough power.

It's even too shallow for most viewers. Generally people want stuff basic but obvious as they find that easy, but IBO is so plain and has so little intrigue it is hard to hold anyone
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Is S2 confirmed yet?
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>>13872126
>>13872137
The only important thing the pirate arc achieve was, capturing the Gusion and getting the MS AV system they installed in their Graze, they could have try to put that in other more meaningful ways
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But how amazing is Kudelia tho
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>>13872562
>dialog is coherent
>BAWW IT'S TOO SHALLOW EVERYTHING IS TOO EASY TO UNDERSTAND TASUKETTE TOMINO-SAN!

Wew lad.
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>>13872585
From the sound of things, it's not coming.

At all.
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>>13872611
There's a pretty wide gap between 'what does that even mean?' and 'keeps repeating things to be sure you've got them like you're a slow child'

For as many problems as Tomino has, he at least trusts his audience more than IBO seems to.
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>>13872614
BUT THERE MUST BE AT LEAST 12 MORE GRAZE DESIGNS WITH ONLY MINOR CHANGES BANDAI HAS LAYING AROUND!
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>>13872611
die
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>>13872081
Because the """sakuga""" is literally a powerpoint
See: the first fight in the show
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She wants Guts's dick so badly
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>>13872999
Guts doesn't have a dick
he cut it off and stuck it to his back to impress mika
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>>13872999
I feel like the Tekkadan boys might get some of Naze's harem After he dies
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>>13872999
It'll be forced drama since she is barely relevant. Her relationship with her husband isn't even built up so you can't even call it NTR. I really hope they don't try and force this. The most I see coming from this is her dying to protect Guts and her husband snapping and getting pissed at Tekkadon.
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>>13872091
Obviously there are so many exciting plot developments happening they are only showing scenes that won't spoil the surprises.
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>>13872562

EVERY GUNDAM is like that, when you get down to it. This is the same as Gundam 00, and deeper than entries like AGE, Seed, and so on. (Not that those are good examples, because fuck those shows.)

I seriously have no idea what you guys want, really. Politics in a show can be fucking boring, because things just come down to "LOOK, WE NEED TO DELIVER THIS WOMAN TO <PLANET>, AND EVERYTHING WILL WORK OUT."

I'm watching it to see Mika kill things with glee, to be honest. I'm too old to be concerned about things being all deep and subversive and so on. I mean, I couldn't make head or tail of G-Reco, and the random physical comedy was annoying as fuck. I'm just up for more serious Gundam shows, like this one and Thunderbolt.

I mean, you can't get away from Gundam-isms like the compulsory peace princess. But I'm glad that we don't have non-lethal-kos, a child soldier protagonist who hates fighting, and the other parts of the franchise that got in the way of smashy robots.
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So whats Gali-Gali going to do this episode?
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>>13873108
Hopefully die.
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>>13872585
That's really all he ever does isn't it.
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>>13873116
why? Ein needs that honor
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>>13872452
That's pretty rad. I mean, since you're posting it and you sperg out over anything that isn't Greco I assume it's supposed to have a point that I'm not getting. But hey, at least it's cool champ, gold star.
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>>13873120
Ein is going to be saved by Gali-Gali and get his Gundam. His hatred for this kids will grow again and he'll be the one to kill a member of the main cast before Mika and Barbatos unlock their super mode to beat him.
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>>13873140
>Ein
>Final boss
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>>13873144
Who else? Char is helping the main cast. Gali-Gali has no real personal interest in the main cast and new bitch doesn't have enough time to develop as a villain. Ein is the only one with a personal grudge against the cast.
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>>13873147
You're thinking with too much common sense. Ein is the character who says he'll get revenge for dead Gaelio as the final episode credits fade to black, who then appears in Season 2 and is forced to begrudgingly team up with Tekkadan to fight a greater evil, but only following a fight.

Also I'm calling Not!Char as having a secret grudge against Gaelio's family. Perhaps they murdered a family member who was about to make a world-changing speech about oh god fuck me why do I care anymore.
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>>13873147
>Who else?
Someone's long-lost sibling, who shows up in the last episode without warning.
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>>13873147
>Who else?
its going to be char dude. Just because he's working with tekkadan now doesn't mean it'll last.
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I dropped this show at episode 3 but does Mika ever have character development beyond le ice cold killer child soldier
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>>13873203

No. There are some hints of internal conflict or some out of character moments but he's mostly the same.
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>>13871979
The new Barbatos parts looks like it came from her Graze so yeah, she going down.
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>>13873068
I want House of Cards but with Giant Robots. Is that TOO MUCH TO ASK!?
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>>13871979
>"unique" character design.
>thinking because of this she'll be important
I thought this with snake man thinking he'd be important being a weird evil design and flying a gundam
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>>13873068
>it ok to be shit as long as the main character kills without remorse because that's all I care about in a story even if the action itself is as exciting as watching paint dry
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>>13873170
>season 2
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>>13873068
>I seriously have no idea what you guys want, really.

A plot that moves forward
Characters with defined motives and development
Mechs that actually fight
Battles that are important to the plot
Battles that happen more than once every 4 episodes
Battles that last longer than 5 minutes
Battles that aren't just pose offs
Drama for characters that are important to the series
Drama that isn't forced like Fumitan's death
Characters that don't stand around for 90% of the series doing nothing
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>>13873295
Nice exaggerations. Not to say you are wrong, but you are overemphasizing the negatives more than you should. Then again, I should realize where I am.
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>>13873305
Why don't you point out where instead of being passive aggressive?
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>>13873305
Those issues might be exaggerated, but they are all very apparent problems with the show.
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>>13873295

Is there a single Gundam TV series that did that? As, in ever?
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>>13873147
>literal char clone is going to work with the main characters and not betray them
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>>13873372
0079
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>>13873542

0079 had a lot of rough edges. In fact, I'll argue that it only got really good in the last third. Big Zam, A Bao Qu, Char and Lalah...all the iconic moments are from near the end of things.
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>>13872062
Except that Fumitan was actually best girl
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>>13873236

Not really. The copious amounts of hand-wringing in Gundam can get overdone at times, especially when there's someone who clearly deserves to die and is spared for no reason.

IBO seems to deliberately avoid this, like in Episode 13. Mika's revelation isn't that "Wow, war is awful." It's "Wow, this guy needs a good killing. That was deeply, deeply satisfying."

It's the little things like when he was going "What's your name again? Galli-galli? Well, it doesn't matter. No-one will remember who you were."
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>>13873617

I actually cannot remember anything about Fumitan, or why we're supposed to be sad that she died. I personally find Kudelia kind of insufferable, but this is mostly because I don't like peace princesses in general.

She does get a few points in that she's not Relena Peacecraft or Marina.
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>>13873613
I don't particularly disagree, but it's still the only one that truly fills all of those criteria.
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>>13873643
>why we're supposed to be sad that she died
Less T&A, anon
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>>13873147
>Char is helping the main cast

This isn't a Quattro clone like Harry, anon. This is a Char clone aka the least trustworthy people in Gundam.
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>>13871979
>Hey guys, remember that zeon girl you like??
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>>13873372
Most gundams are at least decent, IBO is below decent. No, it's not the worst thing in the world, but it's so hard to defend.
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>>13873613
>all the iconic moments are from near the end of things.
>Bright slap
>Ral
>Matilda
>Black Tri Star
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>>13873295
>Characters with defined motives


Kudelia's Motives are defined.

They're defined every episode.
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I want the fun Gundam, not the boring one.
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>>13874055
Don't forget

>WHOA HE IS MOVING THREE TIMES FAST
>Blame this on the misfortune of your birth
>MISS MATILDA SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
>Amruo's whole maturation arc
>SALT
>MOBILE SUIT MARTIAL ARTS

And more.
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Why is Okada putting so little effort in this? I mean there are a few episode that it's clearly her doing the writing but I hardly feel her in this show.
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>>13873203
He is developing at a glacier pace.
Only now we see hints he has his own opinion aside Orga's
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>>13873625
So two moments in between episodes with repeated amount of bad gut hand wringing. They didn't even kill pig guy or hitler
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>>13872562
Because coming up with ideas and themes is piss easy, developing them properly requires work and talent on the other hand.
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>>13872452
What is this even supposed to be?
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>>13873537
I need an exploitable for who is laughing at Kudelia.

It'll be more fun than the entire show.
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>>13872598
Ameijing.
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>>13873643
did she have more than one expression
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>>13874122
>Why is Okada putting so little effort in this?

She doesn't give a shit ? The team doesn't give a shit ? Sunrise doesn't give a shit ?
All of them don't give a shit about IBO ?
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Is Sunrise out of juice? Can they stop milking Gundam and make something original again just like Code Geass?
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>>13873643
Kudelia is insufferable but she is not a peace princess
And Relena was far more entertaining and had better development
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I'll be honest, this ep's fight scenes were good if only to see people ACTUALLY struggling rather than being one shot or doing some move that finishes the fight
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>>13874573
Eins wire shit was cool
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>>13874122
90% of her shows, she does the writing with 2 to 4 writers and it seems like Nagai keeps her on a tight leash.
Other than perverted humor and angsty teen drama, I have no idea what she's into. She doesn't do interviews all that often.
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>>13873372
Even Reconguista does that
Except the battles being important for the plot bit, up to episode 15 it was old school MOTW stuff
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>>13874581
Or rather until the episode where Dellensen dies, which was 11 or 12, can't remember.
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>>13874585
I was fucking salty over that
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>>13874577
Ein was cool this episode, completely out skilled Shino
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>>13874577
>>13874594
I'm impressed. I hope he lives.

Also I like how Gali Gali was just caugh off guard. He wasn't really outskilled.

God I wish the ep was more of fights like these rather than MUH TALKING for 3 straight eps
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>>13874598
Thats the problem, is ok to have no MS in one episode, but complete arcs without them is sad
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>>13874598
i'm even more impressed by that random ass graze pilot who had the balls to sword fight mika during re-entry. Fucker wasn't bad either.
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Good episode ayy.
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>>13874122
Okada putting effort into something only equals to more idiotic teen drama.
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Wait, where was the brewer ship these past few episodes?
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Really enjoyed that.

I want to fuck Carta.

>>13874614

Teiwaz dock. Hammerhead was over somewhere else at Dort with it.
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Pew pew
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I enjoyed this episode, but the next episode appears to be talking again.
>>13874617
Same
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>>13874614
The Hammerhead had it anchored most of the time
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Is the grimgerde the main reason why the fareeds are part of the 7?
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They crash into that big space ball at full speed and the ship isn't even scratched.
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>>13874625
>grimgerde
I'm not confussed. Enlighten me but WHICH side is Chocolate Char with now?

>>13874621
>I enjoyed this episode, but the next episode appears to be talking again.
This one I feel is a bit needed. They just arrived at earth and of course we need a bit more exposition rather than LOL SUDDENLY EARTH FIGHTS out of nowhere
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>>13874627
I agree, but I'd imagine someone would be on their ass soon
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>>13874626

We've already established the Isaribi is thick-hulled. It's rammed and scraped shit before.

I would have liked some exposition like "the ball thing is a fragile hollow colony thingy" though, that would have made it less of an issue.
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>White haired chicks harem was murdered the episode after they were introduced

.....this show
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What was it's name again?
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>>13874632

I think some of them survived. I laughed that they were all blonde officers because she obvious promoted them due to their hair colour.

>>13874633

Rouei, I think?
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>>13874632
Thanks Okada. She writes this episode.
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>thanks for the ride and the shoulder armor that we will gonna pick up later
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>>13872999
For real? What did she say in the last episode about him?
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>>13874632

They were murdered by the original too. They also all use one sword, while Chocolate Man has two.
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So far this is the only episode I've really liked. Sadly, it's Team Gjallarhorn that's fun to watch, rather than Space Rats.

Ein finally got to shine. Doubt he'll die. Gali Gali will probably use him to fill the hole in his heart now that chocolate char is away frolicking with space rats (he even dinked backs with Barbatos).

I wonder if Akihiro is ever going to tap silver haired Teiwaz girl.
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Can't stand Not-Haman. Just same old from everyone else

Fighting looked good at times and very bad at others. Fighting that low in reenrty yet able to move around a lot was just stupid as was using another suit as a surf board which didn't even seem to burn up that much.

A lot of the dialogue was terrible like "your big hands will surely grab something important"

It was an average episode which is better than most for IBO. Next episode looks like nothing
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>>13874648
What silver haired Teiwaz girl?
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>>13874648
>I wonder if Akihiro is ever going to tap silver haired Teiwaz girl
His dick is probably long enough to fuck 3 at once.
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>>13874656
the boring one
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>>13874641
Nano laminated armor sure is hard. Survive atmosphere entry without exploding
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>>13874641
Most of the underside isn't even damaged, why were they all scared and backed off?
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>>13874650
Thrusters dont do shit
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>>13874656
The one who doesn't talk.
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So are Ein and Eugene dead or not? it was really unclear.
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>>13874667
They are sentient.
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>>13874667
I think they were trying to do a raise eyebrow but are just super lazy
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>>13874673
Crank is one hell of a crack
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>>13874667
Her eyebrows are glued in.

Seriously what the fuck is happening on the production side?
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>>13874667
They did a close up of this? Christ.
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>>13874667
This is disgusting.
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we got the first mobile suit battle with several opponents at once which was supposerd to be epic but wasnt. It's all posing again, Except for the grunt stock bunshin no jutsu.

The highlight of the episode was the green Graze grunt fighting Mikazuki in orbit, and even that didn't carry any suspense at all.

as much as i loved the concept of the show the execution has been terrible and boring since episode 3.

this show is like Mr. Satan incarnated, all talk and no show at all.
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>>13874689
>was supposerd to be epic but wasnt.
This is as much because there is so little reason to care any more. The choreography was actually quite good in between the QUALITY but I was unable to care for any of these boring characters in a badly fleshed out point that only just feels like it is getting going

I said this last week but this again feels like I watched half an episode worth of content
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>not this shit again
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>>13874689
Meh it wasn't that bad, but most here are way to poisoned with hatred
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>>13874689
>this show is like Mr. Satan incarnated, all talk and no show at all
Mr Satan is awesome though.
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Can anyone explain what changed from the first time Kudelia asked to shake hands?
I think it is supposed to be important, but the anime didn't explain it clearly.
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>>13874700
Honestly, the choreography isn't really that good either, Gundam Age had better choreography with the AGE-2 vs zeheart's first battle.

The problem this show has is that it has it's characters act surprised and caring while the viewer sits there rolling his/her thumbs going "ok". The show has no suspense at all.
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>>13874705
Lost her innocence, it wasn't even fucking subtle.
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>>13874709
>Lost her innocence
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>>13874705
She learned how to wipe herself instead of asking Fumitan to do it. She's using her bare hands for that by the way.
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>>13874705
>the anime didn't explain it clearly.
Now I understand why the show repeats itself so much when people miss something so heavy handed(literally)
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>dat disgusting squeal
They managed to make a character more cringeworthy than Pigface and Lizard. AWESOME!
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>>13874703
i'd say it leans more to indifference, people don't really care since there isnt alot to care about in this show, its all wasted potential. More so than AGE in my eyes

>>13874704
i stand corrected anon.
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>>13874716
>people miss something so heavy handed(literally)
But what is it? I can't really think of anything that changed for Mika to accept.
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>>13874722
Probably because you are a moron.
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>>13873372
>Turn A
>Gundam W
>G Gundam
>00
>Age (Fucking Age)
>GBF
>G-Reco
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Isn't it kind of pointless to order a halt in space? Halt relative to what? And what if they have the intent to halt, but don't have the fuel to cancel out their momentum?
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>everything so far has been useless
Comedy gold.
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>>13874722

The first time they met, Mikazuki's hands were literally dirty, while Kudelia's were clean. Now, Kudelia's hands are also "dirty" from all the deaths and bloodshed she has indirectly caused because of the revolution she has started.
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>>13874681
Oh shut the fuck up, now you faggots are just nitpicking and complaining about everything. There is nothing wrong with the eyebrows. I would complain more about this fucking shit
>>13874701
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>>13874740
>Kudelia's hands are also "dirty" from all the deaths and bloodshed she has indirectly caused because of the revolution she has started
Deep, but she actually started jack shit because dock workers were going to riot anyway.

Also, she is still stupid and naive. Nothing really changed.
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>>13874738
To the space station, then they get fired for somehow managing to waste an entire tank of fuel in a short battle.
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How exactly did the other ship save them from being hit?

Like head on it makes some sense but the further out they got they'd just have been able to hit both with ease

Though their ship also seems impervious to damage of any type, not even a scratch on it
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>>13874742
>There is nothing wrong with the eyebrows.
It literally shrinks and moves with her face not moving at all, yes there is something fucking wrong with it you fag
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>>13874742
>There is nothing wrong with the eyebrows
Said the blind tripfag.
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>>13874742
Found the retard.
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>>13874747
That's why they let the ship full of chaff blow up when she changed from 'straight line' to 'encircle them'
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They battle between the ship is disgusting. I don't know what is worse, the lazy debris, White-hair being an idiot, White-hair's voice or that almost nothing was animated except Eugene.
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>>13874756
They could have easily shot them down before that, yet they seem unable to hit it with like 10+ ships and it only took a second to clear the chaff as well.

It just makes them look useless and stupid
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>>13874763
>White-hair's voice
I seriously hate how she randomly goes higher pitch and sounded more "anime." The direction the VAs are getting is awful
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>>13874765
Well they are supposed to be stupid and useless, they literally said that the fleet was looked down on by all the rest for being a mere ceremonial position and she was put in command of it to keep her out of the way. Nevertheless 5 ships left or right probably still wasn't far enough to get a good angle.
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>>13874742
The eyebrows look like shit and can't even tell what they were going for.
The handshake callback is good, it shows that Jewdelia and Mika have formed a genuine connection and it's just some phony formality like the first time.
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Come on, Sunrise, doing a bit of quality check didn't kill anyone.
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>>13874780
Tell me this is an in between.
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>>13874775
>they literally said that the fleet was looked down on by all the rest for being a mere ceremonial position and she was put in command of it to keep her out of the way
Then what is the point of even trying to stop Tekkadan?
Seriously, at this point between Tekkadan's luck and Ganjajohn's stupidity everything feels like a joke. Atra making them thing she was Kudelia was stupid enough, now we are going to remove stakes too?
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>>13874787
Because they thought that even she couldn't fuck up badly enough to fail with the disparity in resources and she thought she could win and increase the her reputation and that of her fleet.
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>>13874795
>Because they thought that even she couldn't fuck up badly enough to fail with the disparity in resources
Oh, yeah, that worked so well so far.
They had an entire army after Kudelia and they only got Atra for 10 minutes. Talk about effective.
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>>13874775
>Well they are supposed to be stupid and useless
That just makes the writing incredibly dumb, the trained force of the last barrier to earth is full of complete idiots who can't shoot a ship down?

> Nevertheless 5 ships left or right probably still wasn't far enough to get a good angle.
Yes it was. look at this, they are in space in huge ships meaning they are stupidly far apart here. All of them with many guns spread far apart. The fact they struggled to shoot down one ship is ridiculous
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Fuck I miss quality gundam shows like 00. Quality doesn't exist anymore.
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>>13874743

They were given weapons under the pretense that Kudelia was sponsoring them. The weapons gave Gjallarhorn a reason to kill the rallyists. Granted, Gjallarhorn could've come up with other ways to frame them up without using Kudelia, but she obviously still feels guilty about it though.

>>13874747

The front of the ship is heavily armored, as evidenced by them being able to use it as a battering ram. The sides and rear aren't, which is why they needed the chaff to blind the enemy when they got near them.
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>>13874808
That's not even indirectly.
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>>13874808
The fact the front is so heavily armoured yet still fine is stupid enough with the amount it's been through, but spread out they'd be able to hit it at multiple points not just the front
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>>13874801
>ceremonial troops who haven't seen combat in 200 years aren't crack
http://www.newsinenglish.no/2011/04/14/royal-guards-apologize-to-their-king/
Reality confirmed for having terrible writing.
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>>13874625

This fucker retreats at the beginning of reentry, he has to have mad mobility/fuel, or a reentry shield or another Morgan shuttle to escape in though.
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>>13874820
There is a difference between standing around a palace and protecting FUCKING EARTH. And no these people should have to deal with people trying to sneak in every day, they are basically like space border patrol. They didn't even need to do much just shoot at the fucking target

Just from a story prospective it is awful. The Orphans are meant to be struggling against a large and harsh army yet with little struggle can fly past a fleet of their ships, it kills any tension. But yeah one time in Norway a royal guard fucked up so it is fantastic story telling
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>>13874832
Yeah, the difference is that you get to sit down if you're in a ship PROTECTING EARTH from threats that haven't been existent in centuries.
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>>13874832
>There is a difference between standing around a palace and protecting FUCKING EARTH.
What world are you even living in? Faulty border protection is a major issue for both US and EU.
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>>13874843
Not after Emperor Trump gets ordained.
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>this fucking series

LMAO
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>>13874807
>00
>quality
Top kek
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>>13874853
Hey, I hate 00 but even I can admit it at least had SOME quality. Mostly in the animation not looking like shit.
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Cyborg Ein with AV incoming
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Not a bad episode, can't say I'm a fan of Carta Issue she looks weird. When Lafter and Azee (who got in on the group hug so she is part of the harem?) showed up in the modified MS the head made me think of one of those AC3 head's the old bucket head one
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>>13874862
The episode preview for next week has her talking to Naze and promising him she won't cheat on him with some rambunctious shota cock.
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>>13874859
AGE, Build Fighters and G-wrecko all had animation that looked good. 00 is definitely not an outlier
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>Chocolate Mask is an ally

Why?
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>>13874871

He's playing them to create chaos in the earth sphere for his own gains, duh.
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>>13874865
Never said it wasn't. Just that 00 at least had that going for it, so it can't be said to be qualityless.

Fuck IBO has nothing going for it, does it?
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>>13874609
Nah NagiAsu and HanaIro are masterpieces
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Ein got pierced by Gaelio's lance on Valentine's Day, hoho.
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no, it's just "the scene is fast, anybody in our target audience intelligent level will not notice it"
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>>13874881
They will have to give him the Alala Vagina to save his life now.
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>>13874879
They're overly melodramatic and both deal with the exact same themes, but I can't say they were bad. Just needlessly frustrating at times with some incredibly annoying characters
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>>13874876
>IBO has nothing going for it, does it?
But it's the best Gundam in years!
It's got a main character who kills people!
The drama and characters feel real!
It has a compelling story!
The art is good!
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>>13874894
>The art is good!
You got me until here.
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>>13874888
As long as his ass is intact, Gaelio won't care.
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>>13874894
What I love about IBO is the focus on grunts, it's such a down to earth and real series

The politics is so deep and interesting as well. Kudelia may be one of the most interesting gundam characters in a while cause she has had so much development
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>>13874888
That's not how it works.
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>>13874906
So what?
Okada's stellar writing will turn the implant into a life-saver just for Ein.
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>>13874889
>they really weren't. It's just the right amount of heightened emotion
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>>13874908
Okada is busy writing Kiznaiver then this.
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>>13874905
>Kudelia may be one of the most interesting gundam characters in a while cause she has had so much development
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... this is NOT how it works.
What the hell? It is the opposite of what a reentry should be, you don't fucking surf the atmosphere on a piece of heat conductor.
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>>13874900
Sarcasm on the internet is hard to detect, I know, but I was just echoing some of the "praise" it got on /a/ in the beginning and that it gets on other Western anime sites.

>>13874909
Who are you quoting?
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So when does robo-Ein return and leap out of his Graze to deliver a beatdown by hand?
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>>13874916
Well actually you do.

You use an ablative bottom of some sort, the space shuttle had tiles lining its belly for that purpose.
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You know what I really liked in Thunderbolt episode 2? That bit where Daryl first got in the psycho zaku, no words just a song as we go over events. No one tells us what to think you just figure it out and it is framed nicely by him being able to now run again in the suit.

IBO never does this, you never get a second to actually breath and just see what is going on. It feels like when you are a little kid and your parents make you hold there hand to make sure you don't get lost
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>>13874813

The small blurbs in Kanetake's artwork of the Isaribi (Tekkadan's ship) indicates that it's painted with Nano Laminate armor. So yes, just like the mobile suits in the show, it'll actually take a lot of direct hits to damage it.

>>13874832

The Isaribi flew by the fleet while they were blinded by chaff grenades. Nothing the enemy could really do about that. By the time they had recovered, it was already ramming into the Gjallarhorn space station and was well on its way far away from them.

Also, you are forgetting that these idiots have literally almost no combat experience. Gjallarhorn has exclusive monopoly on the production of new Ahab Reactors and mobile suits. There are small groups like Teiwaz and Brewers that make mobile suits using salvaged Calamity Era stuff, but they never tried to go up against Gjallarhorn since they're either affiliated with or are afraid of them. At most, Gjallarhorn's troops have dealt with puny mobile workers in the past. It's literaly only now that someone has tried to take on Gjallarhorn with mobile suits and large ships.
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I care way more about whether or not Gaelio is going to get Garma'd, which he is because not following archetypes is for chumps, than I do about anything else in this show.
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>>13874905
Yes... so much... And I'd probably appreciate the focus on grunts (I love badass grunts!) if they ever did anything in reality.
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>>13874930
>There are small groups like Teiwaz and Brewers that make mobile suits using salvaged Calamity Era stuff, but they never tried to go up against Gjallarhorn since they're either affiliated with or are afraid of them.
why?

One ship has the ability to do whatever it wants. Does just no one ever try to go to earth in this world?
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>the whole sequence are copy-pasted Grazes

SUNRISEEEEEEE
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>>13874807
>00
>quality
S1 was better than IBO at least.
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>>13874894
They really wanted the SnK audience.
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>>13874916
I watched Aldonah Zero and can rightfully tell that you're wrong.
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>>13874953
nicely done
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>>13874929
Even Comet Lucifer was a better mecha show that this piece of shit.
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>>13874916

Someone needs to write "Haters gonna Hate" or "Deal with it" on that pic
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>>13874925

I wonder if the Graze's Nano Laminate Coating counts. It's apparently a form of ablative armor. You can see it getting eroded during the re-entry sequence.

>>13874945

Tekkadan has Kudelia, who has political leaders on Earth who are willing to shield her from Gjallarhorn. The only challenge is getting her to them. Other groups wouldn't be able to seek asylum like Kudelia, if they actually do manage to reach Earth.
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>>13874905
> Kudelia may be one of the most interesting gundam characters in a while cause she has had so much development

Are....you an idiot?
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>>13874916
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>>13874955
I think 4chan has misguided you in thinking that "quality" applies only to this meme we made up about inbetween frames in anime. Quality is an actual word, used by people on a day to day basis, which makes his statement agreeable to yours so there is no reason to disagree.
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>>13874994
>Other groups wouldn't be able to seek asylum
who cares if you are a criminal? Meet up with other criminal and then leave to do more space crimes and probably transport more good back

Do you think smugglers go "oh they probably won't like us in this country lets not do it"?
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>>13875004
I think the point he's making is that while they have MS they are still vastly outnumbered by gjallarhorns army and going up against them is suicidal. Especially right in their front lawn.

Tekkadan has only gotten away with it because of politics.
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>>13875013
>Tekkadan has only gotten away with it because of politics.
How is flying straight at them politics? Kudelia literally did nothing to help them get past. The only thing she has done was stop fighting which alerted more attention. So in fact most people would in fact have it easier to get past thus unless they wanted a huge amount of criminal activity they would need a good fleet stopping any arse coming to earth

No politics got them in at all, they charged head first with a shield and left some chaff out, that's all it takes when a big fleet is in your way
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>>13871979
>>13874667
>>13874676
>>13874738
THICK PUBES
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>>13875018

The point is that they can go to Earth but they'd just get massacred by Gjallarhorn's overwhelming number of MS once they actually reach Earth. There is practically nowhere they can try to seek ayslum at. Tekkadan, on the other hand, has people waiting to receive them in territories where Gjallarhorn can't legally attack because they have legally accepted Kudelia as their guest.
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>>13875032
>but they'd just get massacred by Gjallarhorn's overwhelming number of MS once they actually reach Earth
There is no evidence of that as they can't even patrol there fucking borders when they have a fuck load of ships and units and only one ship to catch.

Go to a remote location, meet up with other criminal organisations. They don't need to go knock on the front door and say yes hello we are criminals on earth is that okay?
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>>13875022

There better be
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>>13875013

Exactly. Even Tekkadan can't go up against an entire army of hundreds of mobile suits. The only reason they're going to Earth is because a country on Earth has invited them, and Gjallarhorn does not have authority to attack them there.
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>>13875047
>Even Tekkadan can't go up against an entire army of hundreds of mobile suits
They just went up against a whole fleet of ships today, them seem to not be having a trouble with anything no mater the number or fire power
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>>13875053

That was more of a hit-and-run operation though. They killed like ten or so mobile suits. They were not actively seeking to massacre Gjallarhorn's entire fleet. Other people can attempt to do the same exact thing, but they'd just get killed by hundreds of mobile suits once they actually land on Earth. Tekkadan can land on their host country's territory and Gjallarhorn wouldn't have any authority to attack them there.
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>>13875063
>They were not actively seeking to massacre Gjallarhorn's entire fleet.
Neither would most people just trying to get to earth

> but they'd just get killed by hundreds of mobile suits once they actually land on Earth.
Again actually support this. When they had one very important ship to catch, with knowledge of what it is doing long before it tries and a huge fleet they could do fuck all. What evidence is there they could easily mobilise hundreds of suits and actually be effective this time instead of completely fucking useless?

>Tekkadan can land on their host country's territory
Land in territory they don't have great control over. If they are unable to patrol the space around earth they are unable to patrol all of the land
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So, what do you think his story is?
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So when's the galahorn propaganda machine going to start its engines and start telling everyone that kudelia has hired a former mercenary group who are child soldiers no less, who are in possession of stolen mobile suits, taken from Gallahorn and also only on those terrible weapons from the calamity war one of the 72 gundam. That they're a group who are also now in league with the infamous space crime organisation known as two wax and have been transporting weapons to colonies. Weapons that were used by colonists during the violent dort 3 riots. And I don't think anyone needs reminding that despite these being a supposed peaceful protest, guns and tanks were brought. Unsurprisingly violence ensued.
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>>13875089
>two wax
Well auto correct fucked most of that up
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>>13875088
Probably an orphan.
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>>13875089
It will probably be about the same time they mention how they have murdered many poor soldiers just doing their job of protecting loyal citizens. May from in a bit of Mars racism as well about this is what happens when you give them an inch, whorish women, violent neanderthal which is there even when they are children. You know usual stuff used n racism, can even say they want independence to try and hurt earth economy and maybe even emigrate to earth cause they hate that

Propaganda is so easy
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>>13875088
The oldguy voice by Sho Hayami fucked him
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>>13875097
confirmed to be an orphan adopted by Izunario who seems to be a pedo
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>>13875088
Kudelia's secret brother.
I called it now.
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>>13874736

GBF yes, G Gundam yes, 00 maybe. GBF is a comedy series, so it gets a pass.

The rest, fuck no.
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>>13875079

Did you somehow miss the part where Gjallarhorn launched its space fleet to quell the riots in the Dort Colonies? Gjallarhorn's entire space fleet consists of literally hundreds of ships and mobile suits. Tekkadan would've gotten wiped out had it not been for Kudelia's TV broadcast. Political influence is what saved Tekkadan from getting killed in space, and it's what they're counting on to save them once they land on Earth.

Also, Not Haman's Border Protection fleet consisted of just a dozen ships and mobile suits, at most.

If they were able to mobilize a hundred ships to quell a stupid riot, rest assured they can do the same if some space pirates or rioters actually landed on Earth, their home turf, and tried to attack people.
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>>13875132
Here's all the gundam I've seen
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>>13875138
>Did you somehow miss the part where Gjallarhorn launched its space fleet to quell the riots in the Dort Colonies?
You mean the one that they fought off with 3 suits for a long ass time? And that was only because they made the presence very known and staid in the same spot for a long time. these events do not play out the same at all. If you were getting into earth you would no make yourself super known like that but do a direct route meaning less time to get a force ready

Now lets say they get past the idiot border patrol and now enter the atmosphere. They then have to track where they will land and locate the ship. They then have to find where it is in that location cause at best they will get sort of where it enters and then they could fly wherever. Then they have to justify sending hundreds of ships to get these smugglers. And then they have to actually be effective fighting them for once in

>Not Haman's Border Protection fleet consisted of just a dozen ships and mobile suits, at most
Which did fuck all. yet you are saying if someone got onto earth they'd straight away and easily mobilize a lot more which could actually do something this time despite them never being useful. Your argument suffers greatly cause you have to argue that one part is super amazing yet the other is weak and useless

Again you did not support they could do this and would be effective

Why not just send the ships so they don't even get to earth?
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>>13874676
>All on ship bridge are blond guys.
So Kabuki Hamam lust chocolateman dick so hard?
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>>13875000
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>>13874598
I hope so too, but only because he got fucked up so hard that he'd have to come back as a badass cyborg. He's fucking dead son.
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That ending song was sick as fuck. I hope its the ending theme going forward.
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>>13875088
he is the char to kudelia's sayla.
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>>13874594
So Ein will get advanced alae vagina system for final fitgh?
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>>13874657
>TFW Azee Saying in preveiw to not cheat
So Rafta will ntr Felline Fedora?
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>>13875238
It really depends on the size of Guts' dick.
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>>13875236
Almost sure he will end up piloting this thing, looks twisted enough to be piloted by an AV system equipped madman
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>>13874549
>Is Sunrise out of juice? Can they stop milking Gundam and make something original again just like Code Geass?


IBO is Sunrise's New Coke. Looks like old Coke, tastes like shit.
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>>13875263
At the final battle will be Martian vs (Half)Martian
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Fantastic episode. Gets better every week. Can't wait for next week to see what happens to Tekkedan.
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>>13875289
Surprise plot twists, Mika is actually Ein long lost brother
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They finally made a reentry episode that wasn't cool
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>>13875297
You forgot add "/s"
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>>13875198
>Barbatos literally styling on that Graze
kek
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>an episode i didn't dislike Ein
>some decent fights even though they were kinda short
>Choco-char did nothing and left
and man Gali-Gali got surprised good 2 times. wonder who many times more that will happen. Ein is going to run out of body parts jumping into to those shots to save him.
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>>13875390
Doubt he will survive a third time, so Gali-Gali better step up his game, or things will get ugly, Ein can’t save him forever
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>>13875298
>both with blue eyes, black hair, from mars
>both crazy loyal to someone
why not, might make a interesting move. probably won't happen but it could
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>>13874952
Straight outta Space Harrier
>>13875088
Illegitimate Child or Kudelia's long lost brother
>>13874738
I wonder if she also arranges gangbang with her underlings.
>>13871960
Felt it picked up steam a bit.
Now lets see what they do in 6 episode when little has advanced and developed in span of 19 episodes.
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>>13875398
That’s the sad part, as someone said once, they should have reach this point by episode 15 at most, they have way to few time left
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>>13875398
>>I wonder if she also arranges gangbang with her underlings.

She is so obsessed with chocolate char that she have a personal group of mobile suit pilots where all are tall blonde mens, I don't doubt nothing.

WHERE ARE MY DOUJINS?!
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>>13875420
>WHERE ARE MY DOUJINS?!
Pray to Slaneesh and your wish will be fulfilled

>>13875398
>Straight outta Space Harrier
>Green Snake/Dragon Boss in stage 1
>Space harrior is Blonde,wears shades and a red full shirt
>Those mechs were also green and moving in same pattern
>Choco-man is also blonde and a red mobile suit that is not-epyon
>shots down the green graze squad

It has to be most elaborate homage to Space Harrier. Hell,even the game's BGM started playing in mind during that scene for a moment.
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>>13875408
>That’s the sad part, as someone said once, they should have reach this point by episode 15 at most, they have way to few time left

Make it ep 13.At this point I am just waiting for something crazy announcement to happen.
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At least Ebikawa and Gyoubu are still somewhat enthusiastic.
Washio gave a fuck on occasion.
No idea about the rest.
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>>13875448
because they need gunpla royalty revenue

Washio was never a prolific poster anyway
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>>13875198
>corpseboarding
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>>13875286
New Coke actually was alright supposedly.
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>>13875450
Well, sometimes they post cool shit.
And Ebikawa loves toys.
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>>13875396
well gali-gali is a good pilot he can go toe to toe with mika if he actually doesn't get surprised. I'll give him the first surprise with the purging armor, that would have surprised anyone, but the wrist missiles and lance throw he should have been able to dodge that or see that coming...shouldn't he have a device on his gundam that tells him where his lance landed so he could go back and pick it up?
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This show plays a lot better when you binge it.
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I love how Garma-Bro has become the one character most people seem to be gravitating alot to in these IBO threads.

Hopefully he isn't going to share his fate but damn if his Gundam doesn't look cool at least.
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>>13875535
Everything is better binged.
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>>13875541
Garma is a fun character in this show, he isn't an evil adult, kinda to his subordinates, has a badass gundam, nice character design. and so on, hopefully he doesn't die cause that'd suck, hes one of the few good things about this show.
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>>13875550
>>13875541
How long until McGillis kills him? At the current pace it almost feel like he will survive
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>>13875541
Well, he went from a unlikable character to a somewhat likable one. It's a minuscule amount of character progression, but still better than most characters so far.
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Are we really not getting anymore gundam frame ms?
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McGillis is fucking hilarious. I really want a scene of his coming up with and creating that disguise.
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>>13875557
>How long until McGillis kills him?
Hopefully never.

that one girl that was just introduced... its pretty obvious she's got a raging boner for McGillis so i wonder where that will go?
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>>13875541
The head is growing on me. Not sure about its inner skull though.
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>>13875577
Supposedly this is the reason why his head is different from the other Gundam frames

Ippei twitter:
-Kimaris' head has a group of high sensitivity sensors that can correct the course during piercing in milimeters
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>>13875560
Maybe?
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>>13875541
I dunno, I think its colour scheme could use some work. Bit too purple for my tastes.
Now the Kabakali, that was one hella sweet suit.
Whatever you think about IBO or GReco, no one can deny Gyoubu does some really good designs.
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>>13875599
>Bit too purple for my tastes
>too purple
heathen there can never be too much purple.
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>>13875152

Well, the show has already established that people in this era are reliant on the small shuttles docked at the space ports in order to re-enter and exit the atmosphere. I'll concede to the fact that an undocumented re-entry shuttle could probably get to Earth undetected, but even then it'll have to make use of a Gjallarhorn-regulated space port on Earth in order to launch back into space. I don't think undocumented smugglers with illegal goods can just keep on re-exiting through these ports without being flagged eventually.

Naze himself has stated that Teiwaz, which is basically a Yakuza organization, has to play by the rules while they're operating within the Earth Sphere, since the environment there is more heavily regulated than in the Outer Sphere. I don't know how Kudelia plans on exiting back into space with Tekkadan, but I'm assuming she's either relying on the goodwill of her Earth-based political sponsors or she's willing to die on Earth trying to get these peace talks to proceed. You can't really say the same for smugglers though.
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>>13875575
>its pretty obvious she's got a raging boner for McGillis so i wonder where that will go?

killed by grimgerde
barbatos gets the parts for the armor for 6th form
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>>13875602
I mean, purple's the colour of insanity and mourning, IIRC. Neither particularly fits Gaelio at the moment, you know?
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>>13875613
dark purple is doom and gloom, light purple represent feminine energy and delicacy. or it can be the sacred, higher self, passion, third eye, fulfillment, and vitality.

but this IBO/Gundam doubt they made the color=character personality. made it purple because he has purple hair.
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>>13875613
>purple's the colour of insanity and mourning
It also means nobility, pride and ambition.
Ein piloted a purple Graze, too.
>Neither particularly fits Gaelio at the moment
>at the moment
Oh shit
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>>13875542
Nope.
In fact episodic formats get too repetitive when binged.
But IBO is built in a way where it's frustrating to watch it any other way.
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>>13875198
this scene made no fucken sense to me. the graze survived the atmospheric entry without blowing up only damaged so what the hell kinda of real danger was barbatos in? it would've just lost some armor and thats it. nobody would've even died what the hell
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>>13875647
>In fact episodic formats get too repetitive when binged.

This.
The middle section of Gundam X is a fucking slog for this reason.
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>>13875674
Do MS ever blow up in this show?
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So how is Ein going to show up in the next episode/battle. he looked pretty injured and i doubt he'd get the Tekkadan viga-system thingy in that state and i doubt they'd do something cool and make him a cyborg.
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>>13875698
>So how is Ein going to show up
Mostly bandaged in bed with permanent pissed-off expression
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>>13875698
He'll get his limbs sawed off to pilot a robot better.
Wait, shit, I'm thinking of another show.
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>>13875674

something something nano laminate paint magic.
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>>13875698

Or quite the opposite, he's too injured to use the physical controllers properly, so he ends up getting Alaya Vagina in order to be able to control a mobile suit again. Maybe he'll even get a special suit like Grimgerde, since the Graze is apparently not very compatible with the Vajayjay system. There's still one mystery 1/144 gunpla to be revealed, so it could be his.
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>>13875770
>new MS
>Eins
wouldn't mind that, he kinda needs his own MS considering he's survived this long. I'm Just worried about Gali-Gali. hopefully he doesn't do something stupid and die.
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>>13875448
Gyoubu seems pretty cool, was looking at his twitter and he retweets almost everything and replies to nearly everyone that comments on the stuff he posts too
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>>13875378
That was ugly.
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>>13875770
You telling me that Ein will do the operation to get the Vagina?
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EUGENE IS CUTE! CUTE!
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I haven't enjoyed an episode of IBO in a long time but I thought this one was good (finally).
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>>13875541

killed by mcgillis who will gloat about how he used him
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So now that they're on Earth, what will they do?
>>13875328
Shit, you're actually right
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>>13875328
SEED wasn't too good.
AGE was dumb.
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>>13875942
>Mick and Klim hug
>Mask and Manny decision to die together
>Salamandra exploding
>Bruzin and Megafauna going crazy
Man, that was a fucking reentry episode worth watching.
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I don't post often but I have to say this is a damn solid 10/10 episode for me, yeah yeah let the gnashing teeth commence but hot damn I liked it. Personally, I see this series as the zeta gundan of it's day, painfully boring for the first half or before paptimus shows up but kicks into gear for the second half.

Can't wait for my barbatos and kimahris robot spirits.
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>>13875942
>>13876056
Great episode. But to be honest every episode was awesome since the moment the GIT gang was introduced.
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>>13876282
>I don't post often but I have to say this is a damn solid 10/10 episode for me
Your socks, you need to wash them more than once a year.

>my barbatos and kimahris
>my
Guess the reason you don't post too often is because you're too busy circlejerking on MAL.
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>>13876282
Dunno bout everyone else but Kilimanjaro was the best bit in Z IMO
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>>13876282
>first half of zeta
>boring
Nah.
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>>13876334

Fair point but what the heck is MAL?
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>>13876541
MyAnimeList
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>>13875541
He has more depth than most of the heroic cast since everybody got shoved out of the way to let Kudelia's non-development take up all of the screentime.
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I swear to god that faggot ein better stay dead and not come back as a psychopath cyborg
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Holy fuck Montag is Chocolate's twin.
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Gali Gali is so weak, how many times must he be saved by Ein???!! I would rather see Chocolate man pilot the Kimaris and use it to its full potential...
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>>13878906
Chocolate Man has refused to actually be the series Char.
He's fought Mika exactly once and that seemed to be just for the lulz.
At this point, he's more like some kind of pseudo-Aizen where every fart anybody makes was predicted and planed out by him in advance.
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>>13878964
So we can assume that he is like Cumpa with his own style?
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>>13875919
A reminder that in original script draft Eugene was supposed to betray Tekkadan instead of Todo.
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>>13878045
>I swear to god that faggot ein better stay dead and not come back as a psychopath cyborg
This is an Okada show you know. I dare to bet my life saving on that shit actually happening.
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>>13879453
I doubt he'll die during a glider accident though.
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>>13879466
source?
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>>13880121
Space rats, obviously.
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