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Sure the show sucked but the gundam itself was okay if you ask me.

what does /m/ think about this?
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>>13861834
Shinn pls
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>>13861834
>MUH WINGED GUNDAM

Never truly understood why this gets a pass, but Wing Zero Custom gets constantly shat on.
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>>13861843
>ever truly understood why this gets a pass, but Wing Zero Custom gets constantly shat on.

Because the Wing Zero TV is infinitely superior but the "custom" is often used as "final version" of the Wing Zero, taking away this role to the TV ver. This is annoying
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The wings being made of beams is a bit too much
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>>13861834
>what does /m/ think about this?

This what? The Destiny itself or the MB?

The Destiny Gundam vanilla is a ridiculous design born to suit the need for recycling the Strike animations. It's not atrocious as the Strike Freedom, but it remain a bad design.

The Metal Build does a miracle, adds a more pointed line, redefines the concept of "edgy", bringing it to the extreme and Destiny acquires a personality that has always lacked.

I still do not like the colors choice, but the result is remarkable for a diecast figure.
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>>13861906
I should have clarified this a bit more, but what I meant was the gundam itself not the MB.

That being said, what you said about the MB was spot on. MB's are almost always amazing,
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>>13861834
The actual design was fine, but in the art style of the series it looked amazingly fugly.
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>>13861834
the MB gave the Destiny the personality it lacked in the whole series
>tfw I preordered the october reissue of this baby
feels good
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>>13861920
A Destiny with detailed art is acceptable, but the wings of light seem gratuitous in any case. If the Destiny was like the MB from the beginning it would be a different matter, but using the canonical anime style, I think the Destiny Impulse would have made more sense (and more elegant).

At least it did not have a green cannon and a gray sword for no reason.
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>>13861834
It's like some retard at Square Enix took a somewhat acceptable RX-78 pasta and stuck stupid edgy wings on it to sell it to the /v/ermin.
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>>13861956
>preordered the october reissue
>9 months of waiting
>feels good

Practically, you will have it in a year. Enjoy the wait.
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>>13861834
It's okay. Not my favorite or anywhere close, but I don't mind it. Has a bit more style than the Strike Freedom at least.
>That guy that made an hour long video complaining about the Destiny's design
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>>13861982
I didn't enjoy that much having to pay that much for it but meh, I can afford it
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>>13861872
>TV Wing Zero is superior!
>posts a redesign because he knows the actual thing looks painfully toyetic
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>>13861906
>The Destiny Gundam vanilla is a ridiculous design born to suit the need for recycling the Strike animations
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>>13861989
Every gundam are toyetic, anon, after all, they are fucking superheroes.
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>>13861989
Wing on robots are cool (see V2), but when they go all out and have feathers and shit it's just dumb
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>>13862006
Yes, but Wing Zero has terrible color balance.
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>>13861834
I don't like it at all
I wouldn't go like "holy shit this is the worst design i've ever seen i'll make it my life's mission to fucking kill everyone at sunrise for allowing this to happen"
but it doesn't really draw you in, just looks like rx-78 redrawn to be edgier and modern, you can tell by how much it still looks like it if you remove the colors
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=lD5OJd6i1uM

:^)
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>>13862035
In the franchise there are Gundams with way more worse combinations. Anyways, I think it's just a matter of color shades.

I like the blue and white of the wing Zero Custom Custom but the Proto Wing Zero colors, which are the same, just lighter, work equally well.
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>>13862103
Pic related.
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tv wing zero and ova wing zero custom where both 10/10.
Haters need to get some taste.
And if you really hate those wings so much then just dont think of endless waltz as canon.
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>>13861834
not a huge fan, when I first saw this design I imagined someone trying to put ALL the cool stuff onto one gundam and see what happens. You get the signature gray-ish blue anti ship sword and green cannon from the strike packs, boomerangs, beam shield, physical shield, fuckhuge wings that are also wings of light, it's pointy, it's kinda slim, it's got fucking tear lines on its face.
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>>13862130
And Shining Fingers!!

What was the point of this weapon? It seems like some kind of signature weapon, but Shin does not use it almost never.
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>>13862130
>>13862151
this is exactly why I hated it
the destiny is all over the place, it tries to be a jack of all trades that does not really shine in any area
the striker packs are all different because they are intended to fill a specific role
packing everything and expecting it to be good wasn't a good idea, even more when Shinn's style makes emphasis on melee
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>>13862099
>when someone goes full weeb
you never go full weeb son
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>>13861834
when will they make a metal build Wing series gundam or a metal build God/Master gundam? think how awesome a metal build God Gundam would be.
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>>13861834
I quite like it, or at least certain renditions of it.
The RG design is pretty excellent, but the original Okawara lineart and HGs are lacking while the metal build is a bit much.
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>>13861834
It did a little better in Build Fighters Try. But given how laughably it was treated in Destiny, that's not exactly hard, nor was it by much.
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>>13862151
I think they just couldn't think of a gimmick/special weapon for it, so they decided to 'borrow' one.

I like the Destiny Gundam, but to me, it always felt like something was missing. I guess I would have really liked it if it had a loadout more like Destiny Impulse Custom, and could still separate into 3 parts.

But I think the big killer isn't whatever special weapon it has, just that because it doesn't have a decent fight scene in the entire series.
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>>13862846
It's partly that most all it ever did was shoot at things impotently, or whiz around with both hands on the sword. About the only use it got out of the palm cannons was that time it caught Athrun's GOUF whip and zapped it.

Thing had lightwave shields in both hands, it could have easily been tossing the shield at people, even doing the richochet-shot thing off the shield that Impulse did, and still been protected. Or it could be decking people with the shield. Or hell, cross sabers with someone, and shoot their suit to shit with the palm cannon while their arms are occupied with their saber.

Even in the boxing stuff in GBFT, they dropped the ball because while they had it using its wings while punching, they didn't replicate the after-image effect. Sure, maybe snap build doesn't get full effects, but think about it. After-image as fuck every motion it makes, and it's lobbing flurries of punches and palm-shots at you. It could be a completely broken brawler bruiser if they'd only let it be.
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>>13862908
it is a real shame how the Impulse did much better stuff than the Destiny
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>>13862936

So did every other characters first unit. By the time they finally rolled out the upgrade Gundam's the show was almost over and they didn't have the budget to have them do anything.
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>>13863155
Cagalli's Strike Rouge didn't.
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As someone who hasn't watched Seed and doesn't plan to, some of the mech kits look pretty good. Such as the MG Strike Noir.
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>>13861834
I agree, the Destiny was okay, but I'd say not a notch higher. The Metal Build design is fairly sex though, the overdone details and sharp edges really lend well to the silhouette of the base suit.
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>>13863292
The MGs are pretty nice, most of them do deviate quite a bit from the original lineart.
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>>13862130
I'll be honest, that's the exact reason I like it. It's so fucking outrageous.
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>>13862108
The only good wing is a Fenice wing.
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>tfw you kinda like Destiny Gundam
>hoped that it would get a cool custom version in Build Fighters
>It doesn't
>Ok maybe in Try it'll...
>tfw it shows up as regular ass Destiny
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>>13861906
>>13862049
I think it'd look a lot better without the traditional parade colors, yeah. Heine's is a vast improvement, but it needs to just go white-fin and maybe change the body color to something more flattering to the red.
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>>13863378
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>>13863357
At least there's the Honoo version?
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>>13863391
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>>13863395
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>>13863400
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Destiny > Strike Freedom
Discuss

>>13861872
>Wing Zero TV is infinitely superior
Wrong.
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>>13863406
>red and grey

meeeeeeeeeeeeh
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>>13863407
Eh
Strike Freedom hits all the right spots for me, but Destiny's at least as good for sure.
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>>13863407
>Destiny > Strike Freedom
I'd agree with that.
Strike Freedom's garish gold frame and chest cannon ruin it for me.
The original proportions are also bad to begin with, though the MG rectified that issue.
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>>13863444
It looks miles better with a muted frame.
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>>13862130
And then you stop being 14 years old and realize how much of an abomination this thing is.
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>>13861834
My main complaint is how it feels like it draws the eye away from the Gundam itself and forces it on the wings.
Which is why I slightly prefer Strike Freedom.
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I Still prefer this >>13863378 over this >>13863391 This a white-fin would be perfect.

The Destiny need the edgy line too be sexy. I also like the Real grade that has excellent proportions, but the sharp shapes are exactly what this gundam needed.
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>>13863378

Is that a custom job or official merch? Because if it's the former it's a great paint job but if it's the latter fucking laffo at Heine and his I-must-go-my-people-need-me giant-head-in-the-clouds death getting more toys.
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>>13863777
It's a Metal Build limited that was sold at Tamashii Nation. It is deliberately an homage to TM Revolution and his Heine faggot. Bandai thought only to sell it at the exhibition, but it was literally assaulted by people who wanted this model, to the point of making three different Preorder.

I do not care about Heine, but i like this color scheme. If it had the white-fin and more red would be perfect, but the deep orange is acceptable.

I bought this one because get the Normal Destiny at decent price is almost impossible now, at least you could pre-order this variant with 160 euro and it's different from the usual blue and red parade.
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>>13863777
It's an official variant of the MB. Every time a Destiny comes out, there will inevitably be a Heine version because people like it I guess.
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Destiny could use a better color scheme, like the Strike Freedom. A bit of tweaks to the design and it'll be pretty good.
Its concept is essentially the Perfect Strike, but with none of the awkwardness of the Perfect Strike(that some may feel makes it charming, ya know, jury rigged together weapons and all).
The original design doesn't do it justice, thats for sure. It either needs to ditch the edgy tears or go all the way with the edge, which the MB did and actually made it rather menacing from some angles, so I'd say it kind of benefited from the edge.
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>>13863809
>Destiny could use a better color scheme
>like the Strike Freedom
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>>13863811
As in they both share the same color problem.

Also funny that you should post that, I've always felt like Destiny Gundam channeled the GX.
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>>13861834
It's pretty fugly. The rifle and sword on the back are fugly, the head is fugly, the color scheme is alright but badly applied.

I guess it's not the worst design I've ever seen or anything, but it's still very unappealing.

Strike Freedom is really much better, golden joints and all.
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>>13863476
That's actually really good. It could even take a splash more of gold here and there and remain rad-looking. It looks so good I'm surprised they didn't consider or straight up use it for the design of the actual series.
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>>13863799
>>13863801

Had no idea Heine was based on a real person but now looking back that giant goofy death scene makes so much sense now.

That said I like the autumn thing that colour scheme has going on so errrr give us more cameos like that I guess.
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>>13864069
Fuck off, Kira.
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>>13864368
It's a little retcon, but to justify the existence of this variant, created like for a joke, in the video games for ps3 they came up with the idea that Shin and Heine had been selected for the Destiny. Two units were initially planned, but then Haine dies and therefore his unit is left incomplete.

In short, the Destiny was not a planned for Shin in particular, It was a generic machine designed to hold together all the Strike pack and fit any pilot good enough to control it. The funny thing about all this is that ZAFT has never captured the Strike Gundam, so the fact that it is developing a ZAFT version like that has always been controversial.
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>>13861834
Agreed.

Unfortunately, it's a great unit in a shitty show with dumbass pilot and bad fight scenes. It's best moment was in Try, when Shimon crushed Babilonia Team in 30 seconds with some creativity. The rest was just a big waste of potential.

Destiny is not original, but it's a very nice mix of early Seed concepts (sword backpack, blaster backpack...) wrapped with some cool edgy details (wings of lights, zeta colors, palma fiocina, talgeese II eyes). In terms of weaponry, only weak point I think is the total absence of explosives (missiles, rocket launcher, shit like that).

However, in general, it's a great suit. With Dragon Momoko's MB version, it'll be even more popular.

>golden joints and all.
Nigga, please... Even Okawara hated it. It's a terrible unit, specially for a protagonist MS.
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>>13864511
>Destiny is not original, but it's a very nice mix of early Seed concepts (sword backpack, blaster backpack...)
This. Destiny was the real sucessor of Strike and Impulse, not Freedom.
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>>13863476
Yeah, the SF is actually a pretty sexy design, but the default colour scheme is hideously garish and mismatched. Just about any alternative scheme can make it look good.
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>>13864524
> Blue
> Destiny
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>>13864524
The funny thing is that the Destiny makes a good successor for Strike, while Freedom makes a better successor for Impulse. Just look at its equipment as a miniaturization of the Impulse's.

Also the names flow a lot better.
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>>13864524
I Like this color scheme.
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>>13863313

Have to say that I love that photo anon. Its yours?
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>>13863313
it's San Marco what I see behind your Kits? Excellent Real grade, among other things.
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>>13864370
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"Hey, guys, did someone remember me?"
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>>13868419

How come Kira never got serious with Shinn?
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>>13868829

Because he wouldn't stand a chance against him.
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>>13864524
Probably the best Destiny scheme I've ever seen.

>>13864665
>Destiny makes a good successor for Strike, while Freedom makes a better successor for Impulse.
Hmmmmm.... I don't think so. Strike, Impulse and Destiny are based in the same logic: multi-purpose suit using all sorts of backpacks while supporting other units around the battlefield. Each one is an upgraded version of the old one.

Strike and Strike F. are based in beam fire power and unlimited fuel while acting with their respective "partners" Justice and I.Justice (melee power and unlimited fuel).

For me, the only part where Destiny do a strange huge stepback is about the lack of a core fighter and deuterion beam. The rest is ok.
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>>13868795
Who's the pilot? Some rapper?
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>>13864487
>The funny thing about all this is that ZAFT has never captured the Strike Gundam, so the fact that it is developing a ZAFT version like that has always been controversial.
I like to think that the Strike's versatility in battle, especially with the Archangel launching Striker packs mid-battle(which the Strike and its packs weren't designed for) basically showed ZAFT and the EA what a proper multi-purpose machine with multiple loadouts can do.
The GINN had different loadouts, but the differences was literally the gun that they are using. GuAIZ didn't have separate loadouts. The ZAKU had Wizard packs and the Impulse had its sillhouettes.
The Strike Dagger was an interim design with no ability to mount striker packs, but its successors all could take different packs.

Basically, the Strike's ability to take Striker packs, the jury rigged together striker pack launching they did in space, the Skygrasper, they all contributed to the whole backpack based designs in Seed Destiny.

The Sillhouettes having a fighter to deliver it was probably inspired by the Skygrasper, but I'd say the Skygrasper was better since it could use the weapons on the Striker pack its carrying to provide fire support, the Skygrasper with the Launcher pack would be pretty damn devastating if it hits something with that huge gun.
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>>13870280
The ZAKU Wizard packs are the direct equivalent of Strike's packs too.
Blaze = Aile
Slash = Sword
Gunner = Launcher
It'd be interesting to see if a Perfect ZAKU of sorts could be made.
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>>13861834
>what does /m/ think about this?
I dislike the palm cannon. It just doesn't seem to justify itself, as it is a strange weapon that was not superior to other available options, and itself never even done anything impressive.
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>>13864646
Even Okawara's colour?
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>>13863391
>Strike-style v-fin
You're ruining it!
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>>13870312
Unfortunately I think all of the ZAKU packs attach only to the back and not on the shoulder or elsewhere like they do for the Strike, so the equipment can't overlap.
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What's even the point of the sword? What's wrong with beam saber?
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>>13870524
In-universe explanation, ASS has higher output and the physical part can be used underwater. Otherwise, it just looks "cool".
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>>13870537
Doesn't warrant spending military budget on creating weapons for occasional use.
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>>13870540
Ship-cutting is serious business!
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>>13870543
Thinking about it, it's really a terrible idea to get so close to a ship instead of shooting it down from a distance.
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>>13870540
>Not cutting ships
A tough enough blade reinforced with a beam edge would fuck up the interior of ships.

A beam saber would cut cleanly, the anti-ship sword cuts and fucks the areas that got cut with its blade.
Cleanly cut pipes and shit that are probably easier to fix than fucked up pipes and cables in a huge mess along the entirety of the cut.

>>13870562
>terrible idea
Not exactly.
Considering that even top notch ships like the Archangel and Minerva has limited amount of AA guns(And they aren't everywhere), the MS would probably be relatively safe as long as they don't get in front of the AA guns. The entire bottom of the Archangel and Minerva has no fucking weapons at all, for example.
And the Destiny has VPS, which makes physical projectiles useless against it in the first place so those non-beam AA fire is gonna be nothing against the VPS.
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>>13870576
Aren't Seed ships protected by laminated armor thing that reduce beam attacks?
It sort of make sense that the ASS has physical sword if beam alone can't do the job in one swing, but that's just my guess
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>>13870597
>Aren't Seed ships protected by laminated armor thing that reduce beam attacks?
Only a few special ships are, like the Archangel and Dominion. The Minerva and Girty Lue don't have laminated armor.

The anti-ship blades aren't physical cutting weapons in and of themselves, you know. Except for the tip, there's no tapered or sharpened edge.
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>>13870647
>The anti-ship blades aren't physical cutting weapons in and of themselves, you know. Except for the tip, there's no tapered or sharpened edge.

What about Excalibur?
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>>13870656
From the United King, I'm looking for him
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>>13870663
FOOL
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>>13870656
What about it?
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>>13870524

It's stronger. It can cut through shields and large targets like ships and mobile armors.

With their sabers Impulse and Freedom could only deal chip damage to Destroy, with Shinn causing moderate cockpit damage and Kira needing to jam his sabers point blank into the guns to cause enough damage to slowly topple the thing. Meanwhile with the ship swords Shinn could slice the entire thing in half with one go.

The only problem is the swords are poor weapons for MS dueling as sabers can easily destroy the swords.
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>>13870656
Hmm, weird. I swear the beam reached the tip when Shinn stabbed Freedom. Maybe it's just GSD being off-model again.
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>>13871154
>I swear the beam reached the tip when Shinn stabbed Freedom
Isn't that from the Remaster?
When they realize ASS solid part shouldn't pierce Freedom's PS armor and fucked up?
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>>13871154
In the old version, excalibur beam was smaller. In the remastered version, the same beam is bigger, starting in the edge of the sword. They 'fixed' it because when freedom got stabbed by this weapon, the scene was strange.
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>>13871169
Eh in Seed Kira stabbed the Duel with one of it's dinky little knives and that pierced it's PS armor
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>>13871154
It's a legitimate animation mistake that basically got canonized with the MGs.
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>>13871840

He specifically targeted a spot he'd damaged with the saber prior though. Like how Raider knocked off Freedom's head with it's mace because half the head was already burnt off. Otherwise PS is impenetrable.

And the show confirms this since the Impulse gets a beam blade for one shot of footage that never appeared prior and never was used again just so it could take Freedom out.
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