>Mirage in the VF-31C
Can't deny she'll lose the bowl now, Miragefags.
Oh, and Macross thread.
The VF-31 is the flagship of the show but it still comes in several variants based on performance and specs.
The flagship of Delta is the VF-31J while the flagship of Frontier was the VF-25F. SDFM was VF-1J.
VF-31A a shit. They didn't even bother to change the wings from the YF-30! Pathetic!
Damn it, anon, pull yourself together and pay attention!
Mirage loses the bowl because she has a variable fighter that is just a hair off the base model! Everyone else has role specific valkyries and she gets the simple one.
How can she even win the bowl if she can't even keep up in combat? Face it, she lost.
>Also she's not the commander
Why do you think that is? You can't be making the mistake of thinking they'd make her a commander with her skills, would you? Because you have to prove yourself before you get your S variant and she doesn't seem to be leader material or good enough.
yeah not really sure why people are assuming its the worst when it has more head lasers than any other variant on delta besides the 1S, and they have always been indicative of someone with higher rank
>Why do you think that is?
Well I'd guess it's because this guy is since he's the oldest and his designation is Major
>Mirage loses the bowl because she has a variable fighter that is just a hair off the base model!
Bullshit. That has absolutely nothing to do with it. Max used the base model VF-1A through most of the show but ended up with the best girl the series.
>Everyone else has role specific valkyries and she gets the simple one.
No they're not. Messer's valkyrie is no different in role as Arad's or Mirage's. Only Chuck's has the specific role of surveillance. The S variant is merely a distinction as the squadron leader.
>How can she even win the bowl if she can't even keep up in combat? Face it, she lost.
The fuck are you talking about? She does can keep up in combat as she wasn't shot down just like the rest of Delta squadron.
To be fair, almost no one got a VF-19. Those not named Isamu, got really watered down versions. Because the YF-19 tended to kill test pilots, from being difficult to fly.
Backwater planets don't generally get the high end shit unless necessary. Give them a while to develop their industry and stuff because they get the more expensive shit.
But that's wrong. The VF-19kai and VF-19F/S models had improved performance compared to the YF-19.
I've been out of the loop, who pilots this beauty?
The prototype(and VF-19A) have better performance than F variant only under a good pilot.
The F variant has a more controllable airframe for not so skilled pilots and compensates by having improved avionics or something, iirc.
>It's one step away from scrub status. Even Hayate has a J variant like Hikaru did.
Actually, it is a GOOD thing that we have a major named character flying a C variant. That means it would get to do something other than exploding, and it would sell better as an independent toy.
Arad's role is a commander as S is the commander variant.
Messer's role is assault as F is usually an attacker variant.
C is usually a slight variation on the A variant with updated Avionics (and wings in the case of the VF-31C).
Actual tuning and performance-wise it should be >>13851816
I want a Mirage pillow to hug. She's so cute!
We don't even have any read outs that specify yet which variant is better than the others performance-wise. The only variant that's a given is S since they are always given to squadron commanders, Even then the difference isn't that significant. And if the VF-31J has superior performance it doesn't make sense to give it to Hayate who'll be the newbie in the team.
It's easy to infer the performance of specific variants from the several generations of master files we've gotten. This isn't dowsing or fortune telling, we know these variants' roles and performances just from the letter alone.
There's only one exception to that rule and that's the VF-31E. The VF-25E was somewhere between the F and S performance wise and was supposed to use the Armored Pack as standard.
Recon/AWACS craft are usually designated VE or RVF if they have a built in radar and a massively improved Avionics suite. But all that really tells us about the VF-31E is that it's either meant to only use the radome container pod or that Chuck was using it specifically because the mission dictated it instead of a different container.
I still like Chronos more but agree that A is best 31 variant.
It's the position of vertical stabilizers. It works for VF-4 because of engine placement but here it does not click. Again, Chronos design sits with me better.
It actually works better with forward swept wings - but only if stabiliser were also swept in that direction.
Nobody, preview episode showed only forward swept variants. Probably same as with vf-24
It still doesn't change the fact that they would give a better variant to a complete newbie like Hayate. He may seem like a gifted pilot but his rank and seniority doesn't justify it even if he is the MC.
>give a better variant to a complete newbie like Hayate
He's just good, kind of like how Micheal purposely increased the difficulty of the simulators for Alto because he knows that Alto will steamroll easier enemies.
Or simply, since Delta squadron is supposed to work with Walkure, using the forward swept wing variants would be more uniform. Giving him the 31A that has the delta-wing while everyone else is flying the forward swept wings just makes him stand out for no fucking reason other than "We can't give him a good plane".
The differences between each variant is very minor outside of specialised stuff like RVFs anyway. You give the pilots the A variant and they probably wouldn't even notice the difference in performance unless they normally fly the specialised VFs.
The VF-25F is the more offensive based variant. The main difference with the 25A? It has 2 head lasers as opposed to 1?
The VF-1J's difference with the VF-1A? 2 head lasers?
>how does Chronos turn into Seigfried?
Siegfried was Leon's callsign.
The 25(And its prototype) and the 27 is the one that really shows the rivalry.
>Prophecy -> Messiah
Maybe the 31J is the only plane they having sitting around so they have to give it to him, but Hayate is likely going to be broken since it looks like he is the blue pilot of the show as well.
Valkyrie names don't really follow a pattern. The only exception were the Frontier VFs and those ended in 9 having forward swept wings and a sword name, but the 31 breaks that pattern too.
How do you even know that the J variant is Hayate's Valkyrie?
In most of the Macross series, the main character has a white valkyrie with black and red stripes. Which is the best color scheme.
I'm still not sure on what's going on with the arms, the new pics of Gerwalk (including the new key visual ) are using new arms, but every Battroid pic is using the arms from the first reveal.
>He's just good, kind of like how Micheal purposely increased the difficulty of the simulators for Alto because he knows that Alto will steamroll easier enemies.
With that logic they should've given a J variant to Max right from the start instead of the A. They always issued the better variants to the higher ranking pilots.
>Giving him the 31A that has the delta-wing while everyone else is flying the forward swept wings just makes him stand out for no fucking reason other than "We can't give him a good plane".
No one's implying that they would give the 31A variant to him. Going by rank and seniority they should give the 31J to either Mirage or Chuck and pass the 31C to Hayate.
VF-31C has dual head lasers and what looks like a sensor bar
i seriously doubt it is worse than the other variants
Look at this smug motherfucker.
That's the face of someone who knows he's the bowl of a Macross series.
We don't know who her father is so she might be half at worst.
Leon hasn't shown us any spectacular feats of piloting but he was alright. He has to be somewhat good since he was fighting pirates in a fucking VF-0D when they outclassed him by several generations of valkyrie. I liked Rod better though.
Fans went to a japanese fanclub event and Kawamori answered that Mirage is third generation Jenius but didn't specify who the parents were.
Reminder that it's very likely the knights of Wind will sing as well.
Besides pic related, all the voice actors for the knights are known singers, at least character wise. The red-head is even voiced by KENN, a quite popular singer/seiyuu.
So, Mirage can kick battloids?
There's a lot more pronounced red and white colors than on Shin's.
Also Blue was the only Sentai color not taken already
And red/black has been used how many times?
New art of Kaname too. Poor Reina seems to be the least popular Walkure.
But it doesn't make sense thematically. What does Chronos have to do with Seigfried other than being Leon's call sign which is otherwise unrelated?
That's like saying Prophecy -> Skull makes sense because Alto was Skull-4.
The YF-30 was the prototype design for the VF-31 and the YF-30's test pilot was called Sigefried-1. It's just named after him as a reference to Macross 30.
It's not thematic this time around. Well, not in that sense. Kawamori's rocking the knight and fantasy stuff this time around. But, just a way of honoring the dude who piloted the YF-30, which the VF-31 is derived from. And amping up that the Delta Squadron are gonna be vaguely knight-like heroes in contrast to the Aerial Knights.
The only time he really wavered was when he and Luca defected to the NUNS forces.
I'm surprised that nobody posted this already...
Its not supposed to make sense.
They are just names of VFs. The fact that the YF-25 was named Prophecy while the production model was called the Messiah probably was due to Kawamori(or whoever in-universe that names VFs) actually having themes with the names when he felt like it.
Walkure translates to Valkyrie, Siegfried fell in love with Brynhildr, a valkyrie. The theme here should be clear. The fact that its also a nod to the YF-30 is a minor thing.
>buttmad the most recent characters sold out instead of a character that hasn't been in anything since 1996
>Walkure translates to Valkyrie, Siegfried fell in love with Brynhildr, a valkyrie. The theme here should be clear. The fact that its also a nod to the YF-30 is a minor thing.
Also, Siegfried killed a dragon.
I'm surprised no one posted Freyja in her uniform yet, since we haven't seen it.
500 yen for these small fighter model kits. Might get one or two.
The Nighthawk was an unstable bomber wasn't it? Doesn't sound that great. At least we saw them do cool stuff a few times.
>mfw Diamond Force was still best squadron even after all those years
Emerald Force still exists too.
Cutest girl in Plus, that one bitch Isamu was fucking on the side voiced by Megumi Hayashibara, I don't even know her name, who even liked Plus for the characters?
Cutest girl in SDF, obviously Minmay, then all the bridge bunnies, namely the moe-moe one of course, then Misa. Maybe Gloria I guess?
Cutest girl in 7. Sivil, Rex,
Gamilin, Emilia, Mylene. In that order
Plus has a single cute/hot girl in it but nobody remembers her anyway
Why are you guys up about the nose? Everybody in Plus had noses like that
Yeah orange Sharon is pretty cute
Most designs nowadays are aerodynamically unstable since the flight computer is easily capable of performing the minute corrections of control surfaces that allows pilots to fly the plane as if it were a stable design instead of having them perform the fighter jet equivalent of counter steering when the tire alignment in your car is fucked up.
>Myung and Sharon basically had the same face. They were both great looking.
Oh boy is this going to be Frontier all over again?
>Oh, and Macross thread.
Okay then, I'll ask here rather than make my own thread.
Was there ever any single-engine VF designs?
Or do all designs have two engines because two legs?
>Was there ever any single-engine VF designs?
The newest one.
I think he means like the YF-21/VF-22.
I didn't meant any of those, but you're still right. I just meant that Kawomori could easily do a single engine VF, it's just that he doesn't because he's playing it safe.
In regards to the population of South Ataria relocating into the SDF-1 originally being 58,000, would the reduction to 56,000 be due to the first usage of the transformation sequence and later to 40,000 when Kamjin took advantage of the Daedelus Attack to sneak into the SDF-1 and attack it?
Milia is 15 in SDF Macross.
>By the time of 7, nobody knows what happened to the Megaroad-1
>By the time of F, nobody knows what happened to the 7th Fleet
If somehow they lost track of an entire Vajra planet by the time of Delta, I will be slightly rustled
So Gundam is for fujoshits and Macross is for faggots?
Left/right vectoring is a unique proposition, or I'm blind and can't see how it's doing the traditional up-down vectoring. Maybe it's 3D vectoring using the ankle joints, that would make sense too.
That's like saying that your aircraft has no fuel stores unless you strap external tanks to it.
It's all about built-in, Anon. Standard features shouldn't be restricted to disposable add-ons.
Are these all the main line variable fighters the U.N.?
VF-4 Lightning III, VF-5000 Star Mirage
VF-11 Thunderbolt, VF-17 Nightmare
VF-19 Excalibur, VF-22 Sturmvogel II
VF-171 Nightmare Plus
Are VF-17 & VF-22 counted as main fighters or limited productions?
It's said that "the U.N. Spacy adopted the VF-17 as a second line variable mecha and included squadrons on many of the colonization fleets" but also mentioned being replaced by VF-22 as spec-ops fighter, that's why I'm asking.
Isn't VF-19 a main fighter for winning Project Super Nova AVF in 2041?
The VF-5000 replaced the VF-4 as the main mass production VF for quite some time.
Just finished 7 and watched the "movie."
The fuck. That movie was better than anything in the show. Basara having a rock off with a sexy babe was fucking amazing. Why couldn't she be a main character in the show rather than that piece of shit Mylene?