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>>13824689
does he kill more stupid zeke cripples?
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>>13824716

Yes.
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>>13824729
great
dwing now
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>>13824689
>50ShadesofShading.jpg
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>>13824689
>hates AoZ
>likes Thunderbolt

Kekekeke
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>>13824781
I never said I liked Thunderbolt.
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>>13824789
hypocrite
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>>13824716
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>>13824689
>vlc
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>>13824807
Gundam Blunderdolt
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I really hope the main character dies and Zeon gets the Gundam. It'll never happen but that's what I want
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>>13825332
>liking the stupid cripples
I hope you are an amputee
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HG Dom and Gouf when
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>>13825332
But Daryl is the main character
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>>13824818
Are you telling me that they killed Sean on the OVA version? Jeez, that's brutal, man.
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>>13825332
You are a faggot. It's Daryl the main character ( and it's a terrible boring guy).
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>>13824689
Wait, is it out?
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People actually like that cocky ass fed pilot?
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Am I supposed to feel for Darryl?

I mean, i get he got shat by everyone including Zeeks. But I don't feel much emotion from reading the manga.

>>13826409
Watching him is more entertaining.
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>>13826373
>>13826393
non-shitposting aside, I thought the manga employs more of a duo-protag system.

The focus is on Daryl in the anime though.
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>>13826410
You know what you're right, I love watching him get jobbed by a cripple
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>>13826409
Cocky is at least a personality trait.

Darryl's as generic soldier as they come.
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>>13826409
Pretty unique as far as Gundam pilots go, and he's entertaining.
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>>13826409

He's great. I honestly wish more protagonists were like him. Io is actually a very complex character, but he hides it beneath bravado. Also, he can back that shit up with piloting skills, while Darryl is a Newtype.
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>>13826439
>while Darryl is a Newtype
am I supposed to think less of him or something
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>>13824689

Hey, so Io was the one who cut off Darryl's arm? That's great, actually. The one thing I didn't like about the manga was that Darryl lost his arm in an unrelated incident (When the ship was shelled, I think?)

Having Io be the one to hack it off makes for a more condensed story. I also like that Io gets saved by the lightning bolt, the way Darryl is also saved later. Everyone gets one!
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>>13826409
Most people here are Federation lap dogs, they could have Federation main character who eats kittens and the people here would find a way to defend it.
Incoming deflections

>>13826390
He died in the Manga too, they just didn't make his death that elaborate

>>13825332
I've come here to tell you
One of your wishes does come true
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episode where?
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>>13826409
I love him. I can forgive his cockiness due to the fact that Zeon forces destroyed his home and wiped out the population with no quarter or concern for civilian lives. It's not surprising he treats massacring Zeon Soldiers like a sport, since they treated the defenseless people of Moore very much the same way.

That's not to say I don't like Darryl; I just find him less interesting.
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>>13826467
Sean survives and ends working as scavenger/bodyguard on earth, in the manga.
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Which one more entertaining: Yazan or Io?
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>>13824818
Wait I didnt watch this but what the fuck, why does that gundam have tech not even zeta had. Its fucking way too fast.
Also I thought this anime was about the OTHER char, you know the one who was about as fast as char but not and had a red zaku also.
I dont know much about him, only by video games like g-gen and such. did look up a wiki a while back though.
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>>13826555
> about the OTHER char
That's origin, I think?
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>>13826555
johnny ridden? Nah this is an au of the UC era so the tech level and history is completely different than the normal OYW timeline.
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>>13826575
Oh I thought I remember johnny ridden was called thunerbolt , so I thought it was about him.
>AU of the UC era.
What the fuck does that mean.
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>>13826559
He's talking about the OTHER Char, the one with a red MS.
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>>13826582
It's an alternate universe
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>>13826409
Yes.
In the manga Io become a very likable character to follow. Yes, he's an ass, but complex and very human one, not the kind of character in which you can insert self.

Darryl is the classic Shone bland character for teenagers, with self sacrifice spirit.
I personally find a bit disturbing how the manga try to show Darryl morally superior and kinded heart, with the story that begins with him kill enemy soldiers almost smug.

if he was a rookie soldier, I could understand the bitterness, but at the beginning of the story is already a fucking reputed killer.
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Ah johnny was called Crimson Lightning. My bad. Too bad was gonna watch this.
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>>13826555
>Its fucking way too fast.
That's just the high quality animation and battle choreography.

V Gundam is older animation under a different staff, but doesn't Char's Zaku II from Origin ep 1 intro is faster than the Victory Gundam, or that Sinanju outperforms the V2.
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>>13826669
I would have loved to see Victory Gundam era OVA with Thunderbolt's budget and choreographer.

Shit would be crazy tense, especially with all the techniques involving splitting/combining they can do.
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>>13826500
Who was this then?
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>>13824689
subs out yet?
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>>13826700
Gotta go fast... very fast... especially V2.
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>>13827151
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>>13827057
Lockon Stratos
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>>13827057
He mentioned later, in his special chapter on earth, that he used a escape pod. Now, I really doubt that the OVA version will use the escape pod excuse.
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Since this is a alternate OYW that lasted longer than one year. Think they could give us a Cima that has defected to being a Feddie?
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>>13827276
How the hell did his escape pod get from the Thunderbolt Sector, which is presumably somewhat near A Bao A Qu, all the way to Earth
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>>13827300
When will this meme end
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>>13827300
Have you actually read thunderbolt or are just parroting things people say off their ass?
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>>13827390
haven't read it yet. just watched some of the anime so far.
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>>13827409
Read it and see how wrong you are
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I just finished up reading Thunderbolt. Have to say while and enjoy it the story kinda drags after a while

It's fine that the story and characters are simple (in fact to many stories shouldn't try to force all other shit when it isn't needed) but when that goes on for a long while stuff sort of has to develop a bit more. It feels very back and fourth
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>>13824689
Scratched up FA Gundam looked pretty sick
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>>13827515

>full armor gundam 4

is that number actually mean its the 4th FA or is it something else
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>>13827360
>>13827390
Id this isn't an alternate universe how do they explain the atlas?
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>>13827623
The Thunderbolt Sector are the left overs of Side 4 hence the 04.
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will we ever see best girl?
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>>13827707
Thunderbolt hows Feddie aqua suits in action?
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>>13827731
Yep driven by Buddhist monks
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so, do you guys like when they add or make minor changes from manga to ova adaptations? I kinda enjoy it especially if the fans get some sort of input like in unicorn with possible remnants suits. Its not like a book to movie though.where allot more detail is lost.
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>>13826588
>I personally find a bit disturbing how the manga try to show Darryl morally superior and kinded heart, with the story that begins with him kill enemy soldiers almost smug.

I find it disturbing how /m/ adores Io despite him openly enjoying torturing disabled soldiers to free-form jazz music and abusing his superior officer in an entirely selfish misogynistic relationship.

Both men are flawed characters obsessing over the other in the end to engross you in this rivalry.
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>>13824843
You're welcome for that meme.
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>>13827943
to be honest I just hate feddie scum cause Zeon is way better with mobile suit designs and ideology
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>>13827943

What comrades? You mean the one mechanic who gave him a drink or the female captain he's abusing in secret?

Io even belittles his wing mates as he sorties, he doesn't give a fuck.
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>>13827360

It's official you gay nerd, read interviews
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>>13828097
>Better ideology
>Muh glorious imperial Japan.
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>>13828097
>zekescum
>ideology
fuck off cripple
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>>13828097
I've always hated that the Feds are such a superior choice yet they're given such shit designs.

I imagine be a fed and use a captured suit.
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>>13827943
>belittling the men that just killed a decent number of his comrades from the comfortable safety (and I mean literally comfortable, Darryl had his gimp legs up on his monitor, for fuck sake) of their sniping positions

In fairness, it's not like he gave a shit.
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>>13828229
>>13828109

Whether or not he cares about them is irrelevant; you're insinuating that Io has any reason to treat the sniper team with any respect or dignity given their tactics and the fact that they took plenty of his own down.
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>>13828109
>female captain he's abusing in secret?
I don't think you understand the dynamic of their relationship at all.
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>>13828188
>they're given such shit designs.
Technically it's true due to logistics. The GMs and Gundams are near-twins with parts that can probably be traded in and out with minimal effort, since they're all descendants of the same Federation V project. You pilot one, you've essentially piloted them all.

Conversely, Zeon MS are all private contractor bids, each with their own technology and parts (Zeonic, Zimmad, MiP, etc.) and entire model lines built for specific purposes (like the Gouf being a near-completely close-combat MS). It wasn't until the final stages of the war that Zeon gets its shit together and demands the contractors stick to the United Mainenance Plan to simplify the logistical train and so that pilots don't get a different operating system each time they pilot a new machine..
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>>13828188
Liking Zeon designs is one thing; I love them myself...but hating GMs is the telltale sign of a shit taste-having pleb.
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>>13827357
don't know but the author's canon in ch43.5 is that he survived in a escape pod and ends up working as a scavenger's bodyguard on earth.
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>>13828320
might ave even got him self a former feddie pilot girlfriend.
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>>13826555
>tech not even zeta had
I thought that too but its not like hard points is a foreign concept
the Ball CLEARLY has room for it in those holes that arent thrusters
still if this gundam moves like this the problem is fucking F91 should move at something visually similar to 1/4th the speed of light
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REMINDER

http://otakumode.com/news/52fc76ef80cd488c6b00068f/Interview-with-Mobile-Suit-Gundam-Thunderbolt-Author-Yasuo-Ohtagaki-3-3

>YO: I’m humbled [laugh]. I think in that sense Thunderbolt started off in a very fortunate position. Just as the lack of attention given the first Gundam TV series allowed it some freedom, my Gundam series is on a unique platform with Shogakukan’s Superior, so it’s not as tied down. In the beginning, I told them that I wanted to be able to work freely, even if that meant it wasn’t part of the Gundam canon, and they told me I could do what I want. However, that makes it difficult to adapt into anime and Gundam models... I suppose [laugh].

CS: So it wasn’t that they approached you and said, “Do it at this point in the Universal Century calendar.”

>YO: It’s a bit off from the so-called “correct history,” but I did that on purpose [laugh]. I started off on the sidelines without much attention, which actually allowed some freedom as I wrote and I didn’t have to defend myself, so I decided to change what I wanted, and I think it was good that I could start that way. Being in that position is similar to how it was for the first Gundam, so I’ve been happy with it.
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>>13828339

gundam needs more of this, it's way more interesting when it's not jammed into the real UC timeline

also I have no idea how people thought it was the same timeline when every machine is totally different than the true UC versions yet has exactly the same code numbers. Those nips change code numbers when they paint a stripe on or whatever.
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>>13828318
im still sad they didnt use the gm striker mold to make this guy.
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>>13828116
>Interviews just say that the author has the freedom to do what he wants and can take artistic liberties.
No where does it say that the war goes on into 0080. It officially ends with the armistice after the Battle of A Bao A Qu. There are only remnants left who refuse to stop fighting, just like Delaz's group from 0083. They're not even the main antagonist of the 2nd part.

Maybe you should actually read the manga instead of parroting bullshit you read on /m/ months ago. I bet you also think that the Zeongs were mass produced
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>>13828339

In other words, it's an AU, but based on UC. That's not a bad idea actually. It takes the Godzilla 2000 approach. In that it's based off the old source material (In this case One Year War), but does not try to fit in with everything else. It goes off and does its own thing)
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Is Thunderbolt even getting many Gunpla?
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>>13828684

it's had them for years my lad

they are doing "anime color" versions which are like SLIGHT color corrections and almost nothing else
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>We will never get a UC slice-of-life that slowly morphs into a political thriller that helps to explain some of the shitty decisions the Federation made over the course of early UC.
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>>13828700
they announced a mg at the end of the first didnt they? also it depends on how far the ova goes, we may get gm cannon, guncannon, dom etc now that they were animated.
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>>13828326
Second time reading that, and only now do I realize she's missing her leg.
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>>13828813
I hope they get to the part with the Royal Guard Zakus, Gelgoogs, Assault Guntanks, and Gundamheads
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>>13828744
It is all the Jovians' fault.
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>>13827799
You can adore somebody for being utterly fucking ridiculous. I adore Dio Brando for being so utterly cartoonishly evil, I can like Io

Wait

_Io
Dio

>blonde hair
>immortal
>can change his appearance a bit if he wants
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>>13828320
>>13828326
>Using an online manga reader rather than downloading from Zeonic directly.
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>>13826669
No way, that thing really does look just way too fucking fast, like how fucking fast do you want these battles to be? fucking dbz? Thats what it looks like. Its not like i'm watching this but they could at least make sense.
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Ok so major changes are:

-Fight at the start was new
-Parts of chapter 5 are used in this episode
-Chapter 6 is almost completely omitted, I think only his addicted line made it through which makes Io seem like a worse person than he actually is.
-The Sniper battle between chapter 7-9 has many alterations, notably Shawn dying, Io being way more blood thirsty, and Daryl losing an arm in the battle (he originally threw the cracker before Io got near him, getting away unscathed).
-The fleet battle in chapter 10 happens at the same time as the sniper battle in the anime. Notable alterations are the Federation steamrolling Zeon in this version (draw in the manga), omitting a few cool sequences, and Daryl not losing an arm while staying in a capsule (the capsule area is still hit in the anime, however).
-Chapter 11 had minor alterations, but nothing of note.
-Chapter 12 had a chunk of it happen at the start of the episode (Io's fathers suicide), the rest hasn't happened yet.
-Chapter 13 didn't have Daryl's promotion party, an cut straight to his amputation sequence (it was less solemn in the manga), and the launch sequence for the Psyco Zaku with a few bits omitted.
-I think the amputation sequence was new?
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>>13828153


The EFF was modeled after Imperial japan
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>>13826555

nigga this is alternate universe UC , not checkers
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>>13829307

Er, Zeon was.

People tend to not see past the more overt Nazi symbolism and forget that, at least in First Gundam and The Origin, that the Principality of Zeon was a good mix of Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany.

Then again, thanks to Izubuchi, most dudes think that they're just space Nazis.
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>>13826555
>Its fucking way too fast.
The zig-zagging trail is just a visual effect. If you ignore it and just follow the movement of the MS, it's really not moving that absurdly fast.
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>>13829124
Bow before the Lord Dio!
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>>13828229

he explictly says 'this is for my buddies' when he bows up the doms cannon sniper thing or w/e
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>>13829166
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>>13829431
We're talking about Thunderbolt, not ZZ Gundam.
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>>13828318
I don't necessarily dislike the GM line, depending on who is illustrating them, but all my favorites are zeke.
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wait im looking everywhere where/how do I download the new episode
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>>13829609
He said not canon not, not anime.
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>>13829646
clearly you're not looking in the right places
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>>13829669
daddy please
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>>13829695
https://mega.nz/#!wB1CzBSI!fIOxYJ3u6ZPP7VWsIgYZKkBbuCSXSFcxMuDcp6jAqe0
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>>13824689
It's really nothing more than a demo reel for studio 1.

Can't wait for the last episodes.
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>>13829719 thanks dude
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>>13829307
Nope. Zeon was, and Tomino strongly criticizes this in 0079. Ironically the sense of criticism has been lost because Japanese identify with Zeon.
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>>13829166
Mk-II flew past the entire distance of a colony while only accelerating for a matter of seconds, turned on a dime, and flew back over the span of three seconds or so, and that suit is considered only marginally faster than the highest-tier OYW suits, thruster output and weight-wise. This isn't new animation either; this is Zeta.

What Full Armor TB Sector Gundam did was just make a lot of turns while already at a decent speed (keep in mind, you only slow down in space if you decelerate in the opposite direction, changing direction doesn't do much.) You could do that shit in the vanilla RX-78-2 if really necessary. The issue is you also can't shoot anything because you're moving at a rate where the targeting computer can't compensate for movement at that speed, so nobody really does unless they're pulling evasive maneuvers against an enemy that can snipe them (like Io was.)
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>>13829819

The problem with this theory is that zeon is the side that seems morally justified; not always in their actions, but in their cause.
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>>13830004

First, it's not a theory. Zeon Zum Deikun was a philosopher and his ideas were certainly inspiring and shareable, but then the Zabi comes and everything ended in shit. The "noble" cause that the soldiers follow faithfully was just a facade to mask the hunger for power, nothing more, nothing less.
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>>13830004

Are you serious? Zeon is basically full of shit. Their philosophy is as morally bankrupt as, you guess it, Imperial Japan's.
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>>13830004
>morally justified;
>space Arianism made up by a mad guy
>wah we have to pay taxes to people that built where we live
>lets gas other spacenoids to prove we are right
>lets drop our homes that the earth built for us and we didn't want to pay for on earth killing millions
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>>13830167
The others are true, but
>wah we have to pay taxes to people that built where we live.
The US should have remained a british colony then. Got it.
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>>13830372
Yes, and?

Even less justifiable as this is like if Britain had made America
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>>13829650
Sunrise says it has to be animated to be canon. If it's not anime, it's not canon.
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>>13830408
It's more like if it's animated it's canon. If it's not animated, it may not be canon.

eg Gundam Sentinel is not animated but it's considered canon.
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>>13830372
Say you're going to work and there's bad traffic every day. So you invent a car that hovers, and let a bunch of other people use them so A: easier life for them and B: less congestion for people who stay on the road. Then these people decide they don't like that they still have to pay road tax, claim ownership of the car and tell you to stick it. You tell them that no, the car isn't theirs and they're just using it, and they have to pay the same taxes as everyone else. So they crash the car into your house and kill your family.

Seems perfectly reasonable when you put it like that.
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>>13830408
F91 and Victory are animated and it seems almost that they are no longer canon
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>>13829719
kinda anon any subs?
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>>13830408
But anon, ZZ was animated.
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So... this is a... UC Gundam!

I know there have been several designs over the top in some comics and novels, but now I have truly the impression that a 00 Gundam Raiser could easily be accepted as UC Gundam if it had been created for a show in Universal Century.
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>>13830533
if this doesn't have the best articulation in hg then bandai should go bankrupt
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>>13830533
It's just a rounded out UC gundam. I don't see the big deal.
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>>13829894
You're half-right, if it makes a 90 degree turn it has to come to a halt in the forward direction entirely, so it will be slowing down a lot, but if you fired thrusters in both directions it would appear to not really slow down.
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I can't wait when they show those kids dying and or are they even going to animate that?
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>>13830447
Then it would be anime. But it's not anime. Ergo, it's not animated and not canon.
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>>13831072
>infant mortality: the franchise
>afraid of showing children dying
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>>13830533
The Atlas is one of my all-time favourite Gundam designs. I wholly agree that it's out of place in UC though, I feel like the idea of having extreme emphasis on joint flexibility would make for a good AU groundpoint. Fuck me if I know what conditions would make that the ideal design though.
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damn he looks so badass its shame wasting a character like him
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>>13829290
Forgot to mention that for those who think they won't have time to animate everything, a good chunk of chapters 13-27 is just straight up fighting, so it probably will fit in the 2 remaining episodes.

It's a bit disappointing episodes have 19 minute run times. With 5-10 they could almost do a perfect adaptation of those early chapters.
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>>13832450
>With 5-10 more minutes
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Could someone explain to me why she puts a gun to her head? Is she afraid of being taken by some unsavory types?
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>>13828744
That image made me think of UC Mad Men, now I have a hunger for UC Mad Men
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>>13832475
Yes. To her they look like a bunch of desert bandits with possible Zeon affiliations with that Gouf
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>>13832475
Afraid of them having their way with her, torturing her, or using her as a hostage.
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>>13832496
I've been reading the manga and got to the Desert Rat chapters. Is the Federation pilot suppose to be the Guncannon pilot from chapter 17? I know she's wearing a helmet, but aside from her tits, she kind of looks the same.
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>>13832874
I'm stupid, disregard my post.
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>>13828318
It's funny people say that but never post the original GM, it's always some modified designs of it.
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>>13828353
Is Origin a different UC too?
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>>13833391
Original GM's head is pretty dopey looking, but if we remove it...
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>>13833395
Yes and no. What we see as animated, sunrise is inserting it into the original gundam lore to make it fit. For example the guntank and its history are different in the Origin Manga compared to the original MSG. To reconcile that, in The Origin animation, the guntank is referred to as the "early type" to differentiate it from the classic guntank yet both design exist now. Similarly, for TB sunrise cut out all the parts that may interfere with the original series. In TB the thunderbolt versions of zakus and gms replace what we see in the tv series. For the anime, they are just variants those existng units.
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>>13830438
That analogy is incredibly retarded and is in no way representative of the relationship between Side 3 and the Federation.

Like, not even fucking close, jesus christ.

>>13830408
That rule is meant to apply only to individual mobile suits and MSVs, not actual stories.

>>13830440
And you, what in the buttfuck are you talking about?
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>>13833391
Probably because all GMs save for maybe the RGM-79[G] are essentially the same suit with swapped parts.
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>>13834717
>And you, what in the buttfuck are you talking about?

I think he means that despite the whole 'animation equals canon' policy, F91 and V, two animated products, have received so little attention in the years since their release that they've virtually been forgotten about.

'No longer canon' is a touch hyperbolic.
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>>13826409
everybody normal loves a chad
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Has it been subbed yet? I don't see anything on Nyaa.
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>>13834748
Thank, that was not so hard to understand.
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>>13834757
No you fucking retard.
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>>13834748
Well, what are you expecting to see? Every animated feature produced since then has taken place before those entries, chronologically save for maybe G-Reco which, if I'm not mistaken, makes use of some tech from Victory.
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>>13834757
No one is going to sub it, we're waiting for Crunchyroll or Daisuki or some other official service to release it with subtitles. Only then will you see different groups "subbing it", and by subbing I mean slightly altering their script (more often than not not altering it at all) and changing the font around.
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>>13834939
Turn-A comes after Victory.

So does X
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>>13834957
>So does X
found the retard
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>>13834957
>X
>after victory
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>>13835082
>>13836324
LoL
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>>13838355
X's technology points to it being a what-if spinoff happening sometime in the 0080s. Jamil Neate is !Amuro.
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Is it out already? I thought the new episode wasn't due until May?
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>>13838383
It was set for February 13th (I think), but leaked.
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>>13838383
I think there was an early stream, but no subs yet that I know of
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>>13827799
He's not likable but he's interesting and fun to watch
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>>13824689

LINKS NOW.

Can't find it on YT anymore. Is it on Crunchy or Funi?
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>>13843017
I would rather murder you than give an anime-on-youtube watching faggot any help
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>>13843025

Same to you and I hope it festers, bub.
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>>13843025
You know your precious torrents are just YouTube rips in this case, right?
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>>13843048
It's hilarious how /m/, a site about technology and robots, is the most techno-illiterate and ignorant board on this site.
>umm hello, first post here, but are there any good youtube channels where i can watch Gundam animes in HD? My parents dont let me torrent >.<
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>>13833391
It's because the GM is essentially a stripped-down Gundam for mass production purposes, and the design reflects that. In comparison, Zeek suits look like a completed design, although the Zaku I looks somewhat like a stripped-down Zaku Ii (but not to the same extent as a regular GM and the RX-78.
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>>13830372
Are you implying it shouldn't have?
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>>13828326
Wait, was she going to shoot herself?

Context, please?
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>>13843814
A case of better to kill oneself than get raped repeatedly.
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>>13843814
read the fucking manga
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>>13843834
sounds like someone has never been raped repeatedly
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>>13843794
not even sure what your suggesting, but space colonies (artificial ones) rebelling against their homeworld is an asinine plot anyway. There IS NO way a space colony could ever be self sufficient, it would always require resource flow from earth in order to survive. Colony on another planet yeah sure, but not an artificial space colony.
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So with the way people here where talking about this I was expecting EDGY MATURE ANIME.

But I just got a nice looking vertical slice of the war the fedy ace is a tad of a dick and the zeek is a tad arrogant.

So does it just stay as a story about two guys doing their jobs?
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>>13843025
>>13843055
i want them to show that people are actually watching it and still care about gundam. pretty upset the U.S IBO episodes are blocked here....in the U.S
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>>13844360
ye
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>>13844360
And getting fucked over by their respective factions. Io is given the Gundam and sent out on suicide missions so that he can die as a glorious hero for the Moore Brotherhood while Daryl is used as a labrat after losing his legs in service of Zeon and eventually his arms as well.
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>>13828473
-squints- is that a Pegasus class among the salamas?
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>>13830533
>2SWOLE2CONTROL
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>>13844468
Its not blocked its available on hulu for fucks sake along with a bunch of streaming sites. Anything thats on youtube isn't allowed to be on network tv. We know from the fact that they are giving it a u.s. Dub means they are intending to have it on network tv.
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>>13844592
>-squints-
go fuck yourself
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>>13834949

why was 01 subtitled then derpface?
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>>13845419
Because that got official (badly timed) subtitles.
Like the ones he's saying people are waiting for here.

These days, if it's Gundam, there's a pretty safe bet there will be official subtitles coming shortly, so most people are just going to opt to wait for those and then retool from there so the work's half done.
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Which episode do we get deep fried zeeks?
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>>13829315
Everyone says its AU UC, but there's no proof to that
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>>13848439
The Manga itself is Alternate UC. However, the animation has made a number of changes to make it fit within the UC timeline, therefore it's not alternate.

The opening pages in the manga replaced all the mechs with the dust covered arm joint and fancy pants propellant tanks used in Thunderbolt. Even char's Zaku had it.
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If anyone can translate EP 2 via manga, guessing, or legitimate moonspeak, I will hardcode subs into the OVA and upload it to NYAA.

Anyone /m/en want to help?
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Do you guys think they'll cut the scene where Io kills like 5 Zeeks naked?
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>>13845419
It was officially subbed
With bad timing
Then people took that script
retimed it, maybe an edit here or there, font change
and released it under their own name
That is fansubbing in 2016
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I am going to do a shitty fansub of episode 2. Will these rage /m/? I am sorry, but it needs to be done.
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>>13850393

Well, I imagine, unless there's an anime-exclusive ending on the horizon, it'll end where the Feds surrender to the Zeeks.
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>>13850393
I require evidence of this.
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>>13850238
Or you can wait 5 days for official subs
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>>13850723

Really? how so? A company is doing this?
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>>13850524

>>13850523
We might not get to A Baoa Qu
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>>13851050
Well the video we have now was an early japanese streaming. The official streaming starts February 12
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>>13851085
the absolute madman
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>>13851131
A true free-jazz patrician
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>>13851085
he was captured and stripped naked?
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>>13851430
you know it's just torture and humiliation by bored, horny, vengeful people
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>>13851085
>mangafox
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>>13850518

Ok I did this. I just made up subtitles. Pic related.

Links:

h**ps://DUBDUBDUB.wetransfer.com/downloads/daa407abf4a785e17657ea11e76b2c8c20160208023430/023edcd37bfe5b3241b7fb605210434a20160208023430/441258

h**ps://myaccount.dropsend.com/file/d984dcfaa5d0435e

h**ps://transfer.pcloud.com/download.html?code=5ZoriLZxIPOpMGoNfFZOQNVZRnJ3EowdkOQlLFRx3j1qFJakyvgk
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>>13851843
soory it's not clear, but by "shitty" and "made up" do you mean they're poorly translated or actually jokesubs?
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>>13851928

Not jokesubs. I used the translated manga as a source. I just made up all the battle scene yelling, etc. Let me know what you think.

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>>13844491
>Io is given the Gundam and sent out on suicide missions so that he can die as a glorious hero for the Moore Brotherhood
I thought this was more or less what he wanted, with the exception of being a glorious hero.

Dude just wants to be on the battlefield.
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>>13851975
He's an adrenaline junkie with an addiction to combat, but that doesn't mean that he intends to die. The Moore Brotherhood wants him dead because he's the son of the man in charge of the old regime of Side 4 and martyring him would give the Brotherhood leaders more power in the eventual post war period
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Gundam. Not even once.
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>>13852033
let him. Good to know that man has his priorities straight
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>>13852053
This is a huge spoiler for those that haven't read the manga. Why in the world do people keep giving Io so much shit overgetting his Gundam destroyed, when the people who give him shit also know that the unit that beat him also took out an entire fleet by itself, and Io manage to tie with it despite that?
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>>13852285

Because the Gundam is supposed to be invincible. No, it's not fair to Io. But he's being upheld as MU'S GREATEST HERO EVER, so he's held to incredible standards. (Also, the Gundam got captured.)

I say that he actually won the fight. If not for the lightning bolt, Io would have killed Daryl stone dead.
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>>13852285
Because he didn't die with it. See: >>13852023
They never intended for him to survive the war which is why his sister gives him shit
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>>13852522
You can say the same thing about their first fight. If the lighting didn't block the shot, Daryl would have kill Io.
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Welp, /m/ didn't care about my made up subtitles, but somehow South Korea did. They took off the "Bullshit made up subs" part and just put "ENG SUBS" and the Koreans are downloading it like mad. I just uploaded it last night around 8 or 9 hours ago and there's already over 100 seeds.

Do most people in South Korea speak/read English as a second language? That's the only reason I can think of why they're downloading this so much.
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>>13852522
>MU'S GREATEST HERO EVER
Ultimate free jazz patrician
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>>13852685

I'm not actually sure if that's in the manga. Pardon me if I'm wrong, because I can't check right now. But if the same thing happened for Io, it's a lot more fair: Everyone gets one serving of plot armor.

But yeah, Io is unfairly getting a lot of shit for what happened. Technically, the fight was a draw: If the Federation had shown up first, Io would've won AND they'd have captured the Psycho Zaku. The result was completely out of his hands - In fact, it could have been either of them.

It's funny in that I don't really understand WHY they're so focused on the Psycho Zaku. Zeon has a captured Gundam; The Federation already has the Psycommu, as they have captured Zeong Units 2 and 3.

Like, the P Reuse Device is likely one step below the Psycommu, and it comes at a permanently crippling price.
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>>13824689
OST when i need more freejazz
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>>13853504
Ditto. I want them to play some goddamn Sun-Ra
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>>13828097
>Feddie Scum
>That Scum who rally their fighting forces to defend your home when your neighbor decide to attack it.
>That Scum who try their best to protect its people
>That Scum who were talk down and criticized because they failed to stop a maniac drop colony on Earth even though they tried to stop it.
>That Scum who gave their life to push an asteroid just to save your goddamn ass
>That Scum who you said to get lost came in with soldier to protect you home again from psychotic killer using flower MS
>That Scum who have the chance to bow down and surrender to their foes but instead keep on fighting for the sake of humanity.

The Feds have done so much protecting Earth and all it gets was "muh zeon idealogies better" and even that they still protect your goddamn ass fro 200 fucking years.
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>>13853608

Yeah, the thing is: The Federation is the default. Like, it's the system that has been working. Zeon has NO PLAN.
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>>13824818

Why can't all Gundam protags be as rad as Thunderbolt's protag.....
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>>13853707
UNDERSTANDING and being flat like okada boobs
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>>13828320
>this art
Is Thunderbolt drawn by Jamie Hewlett?
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>>13851430
Pretty viciously beaten on top of that.

>>13852285
One thing I'll give TB so far, it's interesting that the super gamebreaking unit this time out isn't a Gundam, but the Psycho Zaku that apparently everyone and their mother is ready to murder Hell and creation to possess. Which is getting a little silly in terms of how people are now on the verge of going to war for this one suit's info, but hey.
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>>13853500
It's probably because you could feasibly turn just about anyone into a P. Reuse Device user, while with Psycommu you gotta wait for some Newtypes to pop up. I'm wondering how many volumes until we get a Psycommu + P. Reuse Device monstrosity.
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>>13853504
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rPcQAiPCQc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_evr5Sfc_YY

Check out Naruyoshi Kikuchi if you like the style of free jazz in Thunderbolt

Obviously not all the songs are as fast paced
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>>13855349
oh my this sounds cool af

thanks anon
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>>13853504
The manga explicitly references Giant Steps as what Io and Bianca listen to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr0Tfng9SP0
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why everyone in this anime look mentally retarded and has some kind of physical disease?
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>>13856088
because they;re not moeblobs

go back to IBOthread kid
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>>13856088
they look like jojo
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>>13851085

Hmm... i wonder.....
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model kit when
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>>13856525
>beats
What song is he listening to? Haven't read Thunderbolt, how patrician are his tastes?
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>Reading though Volume 5 finally
>The whole Desert thing going on with the different groups of post war scavengers

This is neat, wish we could get more things like this Gundam or otherwise. Also I really like this Gouf.
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>>13856749
Flight Type Gouf Custom? Those fans look pretty weak and probably disadvantageous in a desert environment tbbqh
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>>13856756
Nah they're used to make it skirt about like a Dom now instead of hover. It's pretty neat.
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>>13855852
damn that sound cool too

Jazz>spanish weeb guitar
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>>13856749
Reminds me of Vultures from Gundam X. Loved that side of the show.

YOu know what I want? An AW Gundam X about normal scavengers doing mad max things in the ruins of the world in the first few years post war, well everything is still super fucked from the dozens of colony drops.
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>>13853608

The Feds do nothing but keep their corporate masters in power. I'm happy that Thunderbolt finally depicts the Feddies as the true monsters that they are, instead of this secret organization bullshit which excuses the Feddies from being labeled the true villains of the franchise.
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>>13857249
Reminded me of that as well, and yeah I'd like a scavanging AW show as well.
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>>13855852
Manga also references Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue earlier on too.
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>>13858554
>as the true monsters they are

Ironically, Zeon's the side being seen as using its own people as guinea pigs.
Let's not forget that Daryl lost his remaining arm not by choice, but because the higher ups wanted to just take 'em all so he could be set up for the Reuse P.
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>>13859022
stop spamming your shitty meme picture
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>>13856749
too bad the anime killed the fuck out of sean
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>>13859015

An Earthnoid coward like you will never understand something as pure as devotion. No, you just sit around and wait for some newtype kid to come out of nowhere and save your comfy life style.
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>>13859499

Devotion to mad science? Pls Zeek scum, go shove a colony up your ass.
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>>13859022

Should both be crying wojak, Gato wasn't that cool
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>>13859499
>devotion

Is it really devotion if he never effectively gave his consent and openly admits he's prettymuch only still there because otherwise Zeon repossesses his prosthetics?

Sounds less like devotion, more passive aggressive indentured servitude.
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>>13859558

If Spacenoid children could live in peace and happiness for just one more day, I'd take your limbs too.
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>>13859005
What went wrong?
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>>13861571

You posted.
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>>13861571
Pretty cute sister, hope Io fucks her.
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>>13861571
They didn't finish sending in the Zakus before dropping ground infantry to hold the area.

Which makes no goddamn sense, considering even pre-ground-type-revision Zakus (even Magellas, early-OYW) are murder upon anything that's not another mobile suit or a Big Tray.
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Thunderbolt ep.2 airing in less than 20 hours, and yet it's not appearing on anichart front page of currently airing shows, instead it's still hidden among the fall anime. Why is this?
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>>13861617

Generally speaking, Zeonic planetary invasions have been traditionally portrayed as one big diarrhea landing with shit landing all over the goddamn place. Its not out of the realm of possibility for paratroopers to miss their landing zones or for captains or commanders to enter the LZ earlier than planned.
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>>13861722
In the manga it was an orbital drop
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>>13861732

Orbital drops do not imply clean, orderly landings. Clearly things went wrong in that particular landing zone.
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>>13861743
Orbital drops would probably be even messier since so many more things can go wrong.
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>>13861617
>Which makes no goddamn sense

It doesn't have to. Thunderbolt's not about logic or realism. It's war as misery porn that can be mistaken for said realism.
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>>13861803

The Japanese forced women, children, and cripples to become suicide bombers during the invasion of Okinawa. The thunderbolt sector is a stand-in for Okinawa in many ways.
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>>13827057
This confused the fuck out of me too. I just binged all 6 volumes like 10 minutes ago all at once so no way in hell was I senile.

But then again the manga kept trying to act as if the girlfriends were dead and both are alive.
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>>13826531
>implying Io isn't Yazan's original name
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>>13827707
She may have lived this time, but I wonder who Io will choose between when he's gotta save either her or Claudia at the Shaolin temple? I have my doubts Io will get a successful harem even though polygamy is clearly thriving on Earth.
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>>13828744
>What is MSVR: TRoJR?
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>>13829719
Are there subs on that?
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>>13828097
It's terrible hard to take /m/ seriously when half the board always role plays.
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Just stumbled upon this season. I'd only watched OO (S1 and 2) and some episodes of Wing 8 years ago and don't really understand what they talk about. What do I have to know/ watch before I understand setting, references etc?
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>>13826409
Yes? atleast he's interesting
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So many EFF commies in this thread.

I am disappointed.

You don't understand that EFF is controlled and governed by jews, who send out nationalist whites into space, so they can make people lower their borders, racemix and persuade into giving them more shekels on earth, because jews take full control of world's economy. Terrorism was indeed needed strategy for spacenoid aryans to prove that EFF kikes aren't in control of their lives anymore.

Not to mention that humans evolve in space, by being born and raised there, and become "new types" of humans. So spacenoids are actual master race.

Most of you didn't even played Giren no Yabou games, fucking plebs. I bet you also don't vote for Trump.
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>>13864413
Fuck you, Gihren. We both know that you're just using Deikun's theories as propaganda for your war machine. You don't even believe in Newtypes -- you've done jack shit with Newtype research, and it's Dozle's Big Zam and my Flannagan institute that've been left to pave the way for humanity's successors to take over. Also, I know what you did to Degwin. Better watch your balls, Gihry-boy. I'm not about to let your patricide go unpunished.
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>>13864413
>>13864485
why can't you guys be nice and fair like Dozle
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>>13864492
You have better chances asking this milf, on how to be nice and fair.
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>>13826467
I bet one of your hobbies is colony murder.
>against the Federation
>tripfag
like pottery
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>>13864205
You kill yourself
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>>13864535
>milf
>20
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>>13861590
bellri get the fuck out of here
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>>13828097
the Zaku, it's blue brother and the gelgoog are the only things that zeon got right.
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i still cant get over the fact that a gundam protagonist actually said this.

makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
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>>13864746
>sides weren't prisons, and no one was suffering there or choking under the yoke of the federation's "totalitarian rule" or any of that nonsense

Well. When your whole earth becomes some sort of gigantic liberal shithole of NATO, you know that things are getting totalitarian. People were actually forced to live in space, while rich people and high class elites continued to fest on earth. There was resource shortage and overpopulation right before it was formed. Earth Federation completely destroyed borders of all existing countries, and placed one single totalitarian rule over entire Earth. In real world such thing would result in even bigger catastrophe, than some space war. National values are lowered, because there are no more nations that have power over politics of their own countries, this results in a lot of people migrating and racemixing, race and country concepts are completely destroyed, and all nations lose their individualism.

In real world this already resulted in muslims raping and sabotaging people of european countries, because stupid commies don't understand why borders are needed, people of their own countries were harmed by the results of economic greed of their rulers.

The whole argumentation of that picture reminds me argumentation that "Hitler was evil because of holohoax, you uneducated goyim!".

Now, when national concept was completely destroyed by communistic regime of Earth Federation, Zeon actually returned it to existence by giving spacenoids rights to have national patriotism of being born in space. And evolution into new types made them actually appropriate example of true master race.

Initially Giren planned to drop only one colony on secret base in jaburo, it was indeed justified act of terrorism, but it got off its course, because its separated during entering the atmosphere, this was told in Giren no Yabou Zeon Dokuritsu Sensouden. If he succeed that, and did not lost captured Revil, he could have won much faster.
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>>13865877
Blaze's subs are completely made up or just taken from the Manga. That scene wasn't in the manga
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>>13827300
>a alternate OYW that lasted longer than one year

Which manga are you talking about ?
In Thunderbolt war ends with battle of A Baoa Qu and what follows is post war mope up.
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I was so mad when the fed got saved by dumb luck again, other than that, my god this was just absolute perfection. This is how I've always imagined gundam should be, i actually FELT bad seeing that colony get fucked up. God damn man I just straight up felt all the feels in this episode.
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>>13852033
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>>13866118
That particular line at least is accurate, if stilted.
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>>13826409

his taste in music is shit and makes me root for the other guys
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>>13827799

Zeon lovers confirmed for faggy numales.
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>>13827799
>entirely selfish misogynistic relationship.

Not sure if tumblr or didn't read the Manga.
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>>13867110
see>>13867063
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Very disappointing. I can see now that I was right about this not going anywhere and using shock concepts to keep the viewer's attention.

Everything from the cringe worthy singing, to the blondie getting hard on for gundams, to the stupid "tissue" gag he has going, to the cripplies generic background story and his getting his arm chopped off was meh. I was bored the entire way through and didn't find any of this to be refreshing or even slightly cool.

Will wait for the next episode but this way to short and boring to keep me interested for the entire 4 episodes.
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>>13867186
>Will wait for the next episode but this way to short and boring to keep me interested for the entire 4 episodes.

Nobody, literally give a shit about you interested or not.
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>>13867186

By all means drop it, no one is forcing you.
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>>13867209

Naw I will finish it. I have this thing of me finishing what I will start. Thunderbolt is disappointing but it isn't the worst thing I seen all year. Let us see if they salvage this or turn this into one of the worst gundam in years.
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>>13867215
>one of the worst gundam in years.
>with IBO airing at the same time
I don't think so, anon
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>>13867186
you must have some super extreme adhd if fucking Thunderbolt bores you
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>>13851513
agh, how come manga fox have chapters batoto still don't??? FUCK
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>>13867186
pls go back to hellokitty and hellodanial
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>>13867238
>>13867239
he just trying to sound superior
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>>13867204
I don't think that has ever stopped /m/ before.
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>>13850238
>Hardsubs

Nah, senpai.
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>>13861617

Is there even a reason to have infantry in gundam when you can just mount machine guns on Zaku feet?
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Thread theme:
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>>13824689
Shit, they almost all of chapter 6, so the little backstory we get on Io is completely lost.
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>>13869845
I think they'll go into Io's backstory next episode
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That new zaku that requires pilot to cut off his legs and arms reminds me this.
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