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Which head type is the ultimate?
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>>13817897
Visor
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Visor>Mono>Mask>twin eye>Gundam>Brave
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Brave head with a faceplate that closes over it to make a Twin Eye or Gundam head. That way when the final battle gets really serious the faceplate can break and you have the Brave head underneath.
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>>13817910
So F91, G-Self, and Crossbone?
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Twin eye if you can find a clever way to combine it with sensor mask (Valvrave making the eyes and the v-fin loop for the titular machines one in the same come to mind)

Otherwise visor or monoeye. Actually, combine the two and do a compound eye band like some of the NEXT cores in Armored Core 4/4A have.
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>>13817897
Either mono eye or visor
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sensor mask, but only if it's smaller than 9m
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All of them, that's the only correct answer.
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>twin eye, gundam looks almost the same,
"gundam" head should have V-fin and faceplate, it's more defining that way.
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>>13817949
> tfw no six-headed mecha
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>>13817897
DUAL MONOEYES
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>>13817897

There is basically never a reason to make the robots face look human, so don't. If I wanted to watch what looked like giant people fighting, I would be watching Ultraman. I want robots, so they should look like robots.

Sensor Mask, Visor, and Monoeye are great.

Twin eye and Gundam head are lame.

Brave is everything I dislike in robot design.
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>>13817961
autist
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>>13817961
there's no reason to give the robots arms or legs, either
why don't they all have tank treads and stumpy shoulder turrets?
oh, because it looks fucking cool
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>>13817961
There is always a reason, and that reason is FEED ME CHECHENS
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mono eye and visor combo like the unicorn jegans
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>>13817961

How to save Transformers
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>>13817961
>being this much of a hipster piece of shit.
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>>13817936
Blocky AC monoeye head >Zaku monoeye head
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>>13817971

At least arms and legs theoretically fill a function. Most mecha shows don't bother justifying it, but some do.

Making the robots head have a face on it is is purely so that kids can identify which one of them is the hero unit. Its a stylistic choice, 100%. And since damn near every show does the same thing, it gets boring.
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>>13817985

It always did weird me out that everything about the transformers was super mechanical looking and made of clearly distinct parts, until you got to the face which was perfectly flexible roboflesh that can make facial expressions and shit.
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>>13817996
Geara Doga > Zaku FZ Type B > Armored Core > Zeta 'crosshairs' Monoeyes (Ricardo Diego/Gaza Strip)
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>>13818002
What if a face-like structure actually breaks up radar reflections better than a smooth faceplate?
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>>13818002
>Making the robots head have a face
>purely so that kids can identify which one of them is the hero unit

Optimus Prime has a mask and Megatron has a brave face.

Optimus was the bad guy after all!!
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>>13818013
You got that backwards. Faces would scatter radiation to the winds, the faceplate would be stealthier from a RCS standpoint.
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what would this be? Sensor Mask?
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Sensor Mask #1
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>>13818002
A head that can turn is the more "stylistic choice" thing actually. just having camera in all direction would be way more pratical than having the robot turning it's head.
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>>13818020
If it's angled properly, the math should work out regardless of how jagged it is.

But hey I tried, that's what counts. Personally I don't care for humanoid sensor setups, periscope cuboids are more my preference.
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>>13818024
Featureless heads are the best
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>>13817897
Frame Arms pls. None of the above.

Zanscare type head is clearly the best!
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>>13818039
>laser canon
>featureless
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>>13818033
Omnidirectional vision is hard to intuitively process without breaking it up into slices, at which point you just end up with the same result a rotating head would get.
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>>13818033
Zeke skunk detected. Take your "sensor positivity" drivel elsewhere, vermin!
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Movable mono-eye > static mono-eye > twin-eye with pupils > emotive Brave > sensor > static Brave > visor > rotten horse manure > Gundam / twin-eye (it's the same shit)

>>13818002
>Its a stylistic choice, 100%
So is having mecha at all.
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>>13817961
>I would be watching Ultraman


Yeah about that....
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>>13818024
Armored Visor
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Anybody else got a huge boner from Op's pic? My favorite are visors and the mono eye.
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>>13818032
It's a fucking crime Nintendo keeps perpetuating the SNES/GCN control configurations. Hunters desperately needed better controls. And a higher resolution.
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>>13818076
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The best answer is always change. Put masks and visors on supers, put Brave faces on reals. Have the robot change heads midway through the show. Combine two styles (Banpresto got that with their love of mecha goggles).

Or hell, just go wacky and start doing things like Aquarion's head that has like eight eyes.
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>>13818102
Hunters' controls were fine unless you really bought into the idea that the only viable way to play was with carpal tunnel stylus aiming.

What it needed was a campaign that wasn't "fight the same two bosses four times each, then play Simon says with the final boss." Even Quake had more compelling game design going on.
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>>13817897
Gundam < Shit < the rest
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Sensor Mask with Mono-eye underneath.
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>>13818110
Jesus, I can't handle that. Unicorn mode face just looks so nice and clean.
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>>13818724
>flags had twin monoeye pupils,sensormasks and monoeyes
>somehow made it all work
I'm not even that much of a Flag,but damn if that design wasn't the apex of grunts I don't know what is
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>>13817897
Visor Head > Sensor Mask > Monoeye > Twin Eye = Gundam > Brave
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>>13818724
>not Brave underneath and never revealed in series
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A visor or mask type with eyes visible behind it will always be my favorite.
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>>13818763
The Den'an Gei. Flags are straight twigs with no room for the machinery inside them.
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>>13817985
mmm love that Alex Milne style
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Twin, Visor, Gundam or Mono-eye. Slight edge to Visor or Mono-eye.
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>>13817985
How to save transformers and gurrenn lagann
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>>13817897
Twin eye>Gundam>Visor>monoeye>brave>sensor mask
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>>13818039
Yeah agree
Also i like how sidonia no Kishi rendered heads like a secondary feature.
Heads in mecha shouldn t be as "big" and as detailed as they are mechas like gundam. They should just implement sensor of sight and maybe a secondary weapon so there shouldn t be any reason to give them a human shape
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>>13817897
Sensor Mask that gets broken to reveal terrifying bio-mechanical amalgam
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>>13817906
Yeah pretty much
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Visor is my personal favorite, love them all though.

>>13818076
>>13818107
It took me a full minute to realize that was a mouth/hole/whatever and not a moustache.
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Visor = Twin Eye > Gundam > Sensor Mask > Monoeye > Brave
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>>13818888
This
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>>13817897
Big O is the only place I've seen Brave that didn't look like shit, and that's because it matched the general 20's aesthetic of the rest of the setting.
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>>13817897
I'm a Visor kind of guy personally.

Next is either twin or mono eye.
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>>13819805
Newfag detected
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>>13817956
Mecha Orochi?
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>all these Brave haters
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>>13818010

Cybertronians are silicon-based lifeforms.
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>>13818019

Optimus started with a Brave face (Orion Pax) then went to the (final) upgrade Brave face with the face plate.

All Braves' upgrade forms have the face plate.
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stop being contrarian and just pick one already

>muh muh unique combination of faces
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>>13818010
>It always did weird me out that everything about the transformers was super mechanical looking and made of clearly distinct parts,
Not really. They were kind of just boxy dudes made of metal.
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>>13817897
They're all pretty sweet

Someone hire this guy as their mechanical designer, I'd probably watch whatever he tosses out there
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>>13818002
So why exactly do the robots need heads at all? Explain that, Captain Realism.
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>>13817961
>shitting on twin eyes
enjoy your no depth perception fgt

>wearing goggles makes something look like a robot
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>>13820100
>enjoy your no depth perception fgt
Just about every piloted robot has a flat screen inside for pilot sight. There's no depth perception regardless of head design in that situation
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>>13820420
>Just about every piloted robot has a flat screen inside for pilot sight.
[citation about imaginary robots needed]
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>>13820420
Your response simultaneously makes perfect logical sense while being completely fucking retarded.
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Gundam>Twin Eye>Visor>Monoeye>Sensor Mask>Brave
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>>13820450
Disregard that, I suck cocks.
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>>13820447
Explain yourself. Surely any need for depth perception could be filled by a range finding sensor. What's wrong with my post?
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>>13818002
>mecha for realism
nigga
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>>13820457
>range finding sensor
You mean like, I don't know, two eyes?
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>>13818789
I thought we saw under the mask at one point.
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>>13817897
Visor > Static Brave > Kawamori-style Monoeye > Non-static Brave > Mask > Eyes/Gundam > Zeon-style Monoeye.
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>>13820466
And how does that get translated to the pilot? Mech setups usually don't have them wearing Oculus
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Brave heads have zero personality
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>>13820520
At best I think it was only at some angled shots. I don't think the mask ever fully came off.
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Sensor mask, emotive. Like King Gainer's.
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>>13817897
M O N O E Y E B O Y S
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RCWS head
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>>13817910
This.
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Box with cameras head
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>>13817910
That's not enough, we need a sensor mask that breaks to reveal a visor that breaks to reveal a twin eye/gundam face that breaks to reveal a brave face that breaks to reveal a monoeye.
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>>13820538
3D screen that can adjust it's viewing angle by tracking the pilot's face/helmet. This technology already literally exists on a consumer level.
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I like this head, it's cute.
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Visor Gundam
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>>13821081
>modular wrists accept 3rd party hands
oh wow that means there are other companies makes hands for robot.
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>>13817985
I'm usually against mouths on transformers but I really don't like the edit.
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>>13821100
So there is a market for ROCKET PUNCH manufacturing?
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>People ITT hating on mouths on robots

You really need some more Giant Robo and Texas Mack in your lives
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>>13817985
>edgierstarscream.jpeg
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Semi-transparent sensor mask with 4 eyes behind
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>>13821270
I like this nigga.
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7 eyes
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>>13821094
Surprisingly, for an age suit, this one doesn't look like complete shit.
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Four eyes are pretty exotic.
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>>13821350
6 eyes are even better.
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>>13821355

Is it too much to have 16 eyes, though?

... shit this is actually under the sensor head category, isn't it?
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>when head is damaged it reveals a brave style face under the armor
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>not wanting robot knight helmet shaped heads
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>>13817897
Sensor mask over a visor head with a Gundam mouth cover over a Brave face with a monoeye underneath
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>>13821395
I fucking loves Armored Core V for all the knight style heads.
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prefer my compound sensor or mono eye/visor combo
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Whatever this is.
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>>13821360
There's no such thing as "too much"
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>>13821464
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>>13817961
>people responding to this /lit/ autist
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>>13821142
>You really need some more garbage and trash in your lives
Ftfy
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>>13821878
He wasn't talking about Gundam though.
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>>13821898
You're right. He was talking about tube bots, which are garbage and have been discarded in all forms save for parody, just as it should be.
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>>13821907
At least you're dedicated, anon.
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>>13821142
>Hating
I don't hate it, I just don't like it as much as the other head style.
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>>13821360
Not once you get under the helmet.
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>>13821911
I don't understand what you mean.
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>>13821956
Shh, it's okay, don't deny it.
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>>13822113
Try again.
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Sensor masks a based.
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>>13817961
thanks for making /m/ into /m/ - generic sci-fi
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>>13822163
You mean actually good? Yeah, that would be a real shame.
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>>13817961
thanks for making /m/ into /m/ - sci-fi
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>>13822163
I like how people ignore that /m/ has been a "generic Sci-Fi" board for years. In 2006 /m/ was having threads about Tron and Star Trek.
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>>13822173
>le make shit up even though i got here in 2014 face
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>>13822173
Dude, there was a time when people caught 3-day bans for making threads about pilots. It was robots or nothing. And even back then, when Kamen Rider Kabuto was on the air, there was a steady following of that here.
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>>13822202
Sounds more like a shit moderator on a power trip.
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>>13817897
I like all of those except the sensor mask.

Monoeye is good when it's done in Armored Core's style, like in that pic, but I don't like monoeyes from Gundam series.
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>>13822202
>Dude, there was a time when people caught 3-day bans for making threads about pilots
Yeah, it was called 2004-2005

>And even back then, when Kamen Rider Kabuto was on the air, there was a steady following of that here.
Okay now you are contradicting yourself. You admit there were Kamen rider Kabuto thread on /m/ in 2006. There were also Star Trek Threads, Star Wars threads. Hell I even remember Doctor Who threads with Otaking video bitching about Nu-who which he has since deleted since he likes BBC money.
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>>13822219
Supposedly moot himself had to step in to get pilots allowed on the board. Before then pictures of pilots were only allowed if the mech was in the background.

Not sure if the moot part is true though. You know how /m/ is with it's rumors.
>Go Nagai said that Mazinkaizer and Grendizer can never be in the same SRW
and all that.
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>>13822129
Your shoop won't fool anyone, samefag.
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Mazinger head is best. Makes the robot look like a badass knight and gives it Photon Power beams and Rust Hurricanes
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>>13822129

To be fair, he was only half wrong. Roughly 50% of those posts were in fact you.
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>>13821898
操你妈
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>>13822559
His implication that I was responding to myself to fake an argument was wrong, though, which was his point.
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>>13817897
Depends on the mech as well as it's execution
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Multi-cameras or more satellite array than head.

Also dig V-shaped visors like from Dexter's lab
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>>13821907
>tube robot
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Sensor-style mask for eyes and nose, Brave mouth.
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>>13817897
top three and bottom right
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bio-head.
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1>3>2>4
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>>13823929
I don't see a monoeye there. And we all know that monoeye>everything.
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>>13817897
all of them except the mono-eye
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>>13823943
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>>13823943
Get out!
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>>13817906
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>>13823942
>>13823943
Them sure are some hot conflicting opinions
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>>13817897

Sensor mask that can be removed to reveal visor, that face opens into brave head, that gets damaged in battle into mono eye
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>>13824074
YOU MADMAN

That is indeed the best
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Part sensor mask, part Brave like >>13823757 says

Mono-eye and visor are for srs business plebs
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>>13820651

This guy knows his stuff.
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Brave face that opens to reveal a mono eye for maximum spoop.
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>>13817897
Sensor mask which retracts to reveal brave head with visor eyes.
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>retract this and retract that to reveal diladoo
Fuck that shit, let's go with no head or face at all!
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I can enjoy all of them except brave
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Brave face all day every day. The mouth needs to move when the pilot speaks, too. Your machine is the manifestation of your soul and spirit!
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>>13817985
From starscream to a protoss?
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>>13824662
>Your machine is the manifestation of your soul and spirit
YOU FOOL
The machine has its own soul and spirit! You are its PARTNER, it's not just another part of you made manifest.
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>>13824662
I can agree that Brave faces are great, but I actually prefer the non-moving version. I have nothing against the more expressive Brave faces, but there's something wonderfully majestic about having a humanoid face simply sculpted onto the machine.
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>>13817897
Gundam > Twin Eye = Visor > Monoeye > Sensor > Brave
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>>13817961
>this stale pasta

Every time OP's photo makes an appearance, so does this asshole.
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>>13825661

I know what he said made you mad, but you still shouldn't tell lies. Or maybe you don't know what words mean?

Either way, that isn't pasta.
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AC-style monoeye>Visor>Sensor mask>Twin eye=Gundam>Brave
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>>13827658
>revoltech never
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>>13821115
Of course, what is Starscream without his mouth?
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>>13827800
"Star" I have no mouth but I must scream?
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>>13817897
Gundam>Twin Eye>Brave>Visor>Sensor>>>>>>Monoeye
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>>13825627
I agree, nothing like a big FUCK-YOU robot with a stone cold stare.
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>>13827658
Most underrated frame of ZoE, I forgot it even existed until I saw this because I never see it anywhere else. Prophet, was it? I think that was the pilot's name, that guy was fucking awesome.
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>>13817985
>remove mouth
>improve starscream
oh megatron
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>>13818864
this shit right here is my jam, I love when mechanical things are revealed to have unsettling biological internals
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>>13827658
>>13827862

Who funds this. Who the hell do they have in the Oversight Committee that looks at the proposal of something like this and goes yeah, aight.
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>>13817897
Twin eye/Gundam heads and Sensor masks have always been my favorite.
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>>13827862
Inhert piloted by Lloyd
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>>13828522
Yeah, my mistake, been a while since I played. not sure where I got prophet from.
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Best head coming through
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>>13829224
>fuckhuge camera on top where it'll do no good
>best
Yeah, naw. Go wank about how symbolic it is somewhere else.
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>>13817985
>I have no mouth and I must Starscream
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>>13821299
AGE has probably overall the best designs out of all gundam series though.
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>>13821026
YEAH
IN REAL LIFE
SO WHAT DOES IT FUCKIN MATTER TO MY FUCKIN GUNDAMS
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>>13821409
nigga that's iron tarkus
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>>13820546
PHG speaking the hard truth
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>>13829231
Ask your mom about the symbolism when i jizzed all over her tits last night.
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>>13829244
Are you kidding me? They all (with some exceptions) look like children's plastic toys. Big, simple and flat forms, no seams, no details. I dropped AGE ONLY because of shitty MSs.
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>>13829662
>the series explicitly designed to sell children's plastic toys has mecha that look like children's plastic toys
Holy shit Sherlock got reincarnated.
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>>13828105
>>13827658
The great thing that makes the inhert so unique is that it's designed by Kaneko Kazuma of Shin Megami Tensei fame, which explains the valkyrie hood ornament, slick angular body, and really unconventional weaponry.

My favorite touch has to be the constellation motif, though.
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>>13829684
MECHA ISN'T SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE CHILDREN'S TOYS! It's fucking giant robots! "Mecha" from "mechanical". Not "Plast" from "cheap plastic"! Sure, this is a commercial. Sure, toys are made from plastic. But in-universe representatives of those toys are supposed to look great. They should be big, mighty, tough, powerful. That's what makes someone buy a toy version - because the "real thing" is so damn COOL! And it's not cool when in-universe "giant robots" already look like plastic toys. It doesn't make me wanna buy toys. Why would I want a plastic toy of a plastic toy? Plastic toys are not cool!
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>>13829662
>Big, simple and flat forms, no seams, no details.
Many real world vehicles are. Greeble is seriously the most retarded thing Hollywood and western plagiarists came up with.
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I choose Mao Dante.
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>>13820651
You mean a sensormask that cover the visor that covers the monoeye that covers the twineyes that has a gundamface under it and under the mouthpiece is a braveface but once you get past that is the skeleton rapefacemode
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>>13829776
Now that sounds nice.
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>>13829776
Make the sensormask look exactly like skeleton rapefacemode and you've got a deal.
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>>13829790
No fuck you.
It has to break through that many layers to reach the rapeface mode or else there wouldnt be the element of "remove the limiters" hype to it
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>>13829796
No fuck YOU.
Having the rapeface appear twice means that it gets forgotten and brushed off after the first layer goes. Then it's extra dramatic when it returns for the final go.
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>>13829716
>Why would I want a plastic toy of a plastic toy?
Hey, fuck you. GBF gave us some damn good gunpla.
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>>13830437
You got me there.
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>>13829662
>I dropped AGE ONLY because of shitty MSs.
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>>13829716
You sound like someone who builds Lego kits using the instructions.
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>>13825627
>>13827855
I like it in that it's more statuesque.
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>>13830453
Nope.
It's not like I hate fun, exactly the opposite, in fact.
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>>13830472
I mean if you're going to go to all the trouble of making a massive machine and give care to its aesthetics, might as well give it a fair face.
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Synthetic human face.
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>>13830486
Forgot my damn image.
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>>13830486
>>13830490
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>>13817897
You have no place here if you hate any of them.
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>>13818789
Suzaku a qt 3.14.
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>>13819914
I'm sorry that you have a shit taste. Brave doesn't push mecha design forward, if anything the bombastic demands either appropriate real robot tropes that innovate the genre or push the genre in reverse.

Brave is bad for mecha.
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>>13829231
That's not a camera
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>>13817897
Visor head with eyes behind the visor.
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>>13817897
Mono eye.
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>>13829301
>STOP PUTTING SCIENCE IN MY SCIENCE FICTION!!!1111 REEEEEEEEE!!!! 111one
Seriously, UC autist?
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>>13817897
Visor>Mono>Mask>Twin>Gundam>Brave

>>13817906
HIVE MIND

I'm surprised I ended up ranking Gundam type so low. I really do love Gundam style heads, but if it isn't a Gundam series, it really shouldn't be copying the style. I ranked them with a generic mecha genre form of entertainment in mind.
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>>13817897

Twin is roughly equal to Visor all things considered. Everything else is absolute garbage that has no right to exist., and anyone who likes them has awful tastes in aesthetics.
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>>13831164

Please, it's not like you're inherently superior for hating BRAVE. If anything, you're not that special for it.

It's an aesthetic that's not that popular these days but has a place. Don't be a sheep or a hipster.
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>>13832775
>but has a place
No, it doesn't. It was awful back when it was used commonly, and fortunately for everyone they realized how bad is was and it has almost phased out of common use, as it deserves.
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>>13832785
Thank goodness mecha has been phased out for moe SoL. Anime fans finally realized where the REAL quality is.
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>>13832785
>>13832802

Looks like you walked into that one.
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