Wrecking ball mecha and spider mecha are honestly the only not

>Space opera series
>Could have cool space fighters
>Nah just make a Gundam ripoff

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Wrecking ball mecha and spider mecha are honestly the worst most retarded kinds of mecha.

They should make more shows about humanoid mecha instead of stupid ugly mecha.

>>13817081

You love all those 2k sales mecha shows don't you?

You know they make this shit to actually sell money right?

What sells the most? Human designs

>Getting into /m/ for realism for any reason at all

>>13816981

Anon please, the penguins are the ones obviously pulling in most of the views.

>>13817084
>You love all those 2k sales mecha shows don't you?
You mean the ones about spider and ball mecha?

>>13817090
>selling money

>>13817093

Show me the last new mecha anime that became a hit. Go ahead.

>>13817097
What's the standard that we're using for a hit?

Also why don't you show me any mecha anime at all with spider or ball mecha that was a hit? You can't

>>13817076

>Make space fighters
>They are just space jets

Naw they're dumb too.

>>13817090

Cute girl PVC sell better than gunpla. Real models sell better than gunpla.

>>13817103

GitS

>>13817111
>GiTS
>About the Tachikomas
>implying they are the reason people watch GiTS

>>13817107
>Cute girl PVC sell better than gunpla. Real models sell better than gunpla.
How do you miss the point that hard? Should we just forgo mecha entirely and focus solely on cute girls then? That's what it sounds like you're saying

>>13817103

To be honest they never even really tried. It's always the humanoid mecha. No matter how many horrible flops they suffer they still push the humanoid mecha. Even when making serious war drama they push for the retarded humanoid robots.

People were saying that tanks are boring shit and have no place in anime. Then GuP happened.

>>13817132
>>To be honest they never even really tried.
Sora no Woto was the most earnest attempt at spider-mechs I've ever seen and that bombed ;_;

>dynamic and fully choreographed fight scenes
vs.
>two mostly static objects shooting at each other

I wonder which is more visually interesting?

>>13817164

For the vast majority of people giant humanoid robots are just dumb.

It works for series that don't really take itself seriously or don't give a fuck about realism. But not for serious shows.

>>13816981
Well the latest episode loli pandering was very rage inducing. I am a /m/an ffs and want my lady with G-Cup, not some smug loli who shouldn't be the one piloting a giantass tank

Which brings to next question -
Why everyone keep calling them mecha when they are nothing but glorified tanks?

Such a shame that this could had really good world building whether be it's faction or a more logical world map with geopolitics . It already has a central theme of defeating the undefeatable and a very David vs Goliath theme.

These "objects" will look great as tabletop figures.

Wish /tg/ could get them together get some hombrew shit done.

>>13817117
The question said with spider mechs not about spider mechs.

>>13817550

Actually, lolis work perfectly in setting. Because they are small and light they suffer much less from high G.

And that is the main problem HO pilots face.

It's that adult guy piloting the super fast HO in previous arc that made no real sense.

>>13817550
>anything over DD-cup
>ever
your shit taste is your own fault, not the writers. Go watch Valkyrie Drive again and don't fuck up better shows.

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>>13817550
>In today's news: Adult man stabs a little girl over fake breasts.

>>13817704
>DD-cup
Fucking stupid cup system. Just call it E cup

>>13816981
I know this is bait but uh no you are wrong. Even the more ridiculous scales like gundam are at least physically constructable(see 1to1 gundam). Where as that, whatever it is, appears to me a solid metal ball supported on terrible shopping cart legs. Supposing that thing is 18 metres (in line with gundam) it's centre would likely break the tiny joints and sink into the ground, that or the fuck huge cannons would likely tip it over backwards.

>>13817721
>Supposing that thing is 18 metres (in line with gundam)
It's 100 m actually

>>13817721

50m tall and using anti gravity engines. Those are not legs. More like Star Wars repulsors.

And even though you could build a full scale Gundam it would be a clumsy mess completely unsuitable for anything that's not parades.

There is a reason why there are no giant humanoid animals.

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>>13817084
They should make more tank shows

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Clever of you not to base your argument on using the word "realistic", op. As for "retarded" and "stupid", I say to thee nay.

My counter-argument is that these balls lack romance, and thus are not fit to even enter the category of mecha!

I can accept a spidermech every now and then, though. Some of them have the right attitude.

>>13817778

They really should. GuP fights were far more exciting than Gundam ever was.

>>13817738
Oh jesus christ is it at least aquatic?
>>13817740
You do not seem to be understanding my point, even if it could use bullshit magic to to move around unless that ball and the back cannons are hollow the entire centre of mass would collapse , unless it has even more bullshit magic drives in the ball section in which case what is the point of those legs anyway?

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>>13817919

Oh wait, it gets better.

>>13817919
>is it at least aquatic?
It can float on the water with a different set of feet. The feet in that picture are for land only. The legs are just just the direction tech moved in for this fictional series.

>>13817740

There are no giant ball animals either, last I checked. Pretty much everyone recognizes and is perfectly okay with the fact mecha are unrealistic, but you seem to think a giant ball actually is. It isn't, not without a lot of magical technology. Which you could also say about Gundam.

>Entire seasons went by with people trying to get GuP off /m/
>Now it's so realistic and more series should be like it

>>13818087

Well, one wouldn't really call GuP ironclad realistic in any sense. Should more shows be as entertaining as it is, though, and/or feature tanks? Wouldn't mind it one bit.

>>13818000

Gundam will literally never ever become realistic. Just due to things like ground pressure. Or how not aerodynamic humanoid shape is.

A giant ball of armor floating with anti-grav tech is far more realistic.

>>13818087
There isn't as much backlash against it when it's not getting constant threads anymore.

>>13818121
>anti-grav tech
>realistic

>>13818099

It's not exactly horribly unrealistic either. These tanks are running on modern engines.

>>13818130

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zpsEO5t-TM

>>13818146
Tanks performance in GuP are exaggerate for entertainment's sake.

Like how Churchill and Matildas are faster than irl but still slower that the Panzer IV.

>>13818214

And it's still approximately 10000 times more realistic than average mecha.

>>13818124
So literally reverse hipsterism

>>13818248
No. The people complaining were complaining because of the constant threads. That stopped so they have nothing to complain about anymore. I'm sure there are people who don't like GuP in general bu there isn't really a reason one of them would post in this particular thread.

>>13818172
That's superconductive electromagnetism, not anti-gravity.

It levitates bullet trains from Tokyo to Osaka.

>>13819296

Obviously. But at least it's something similar. Giant legged robots make literally 0 sense thanks to ground pressure.

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>>13817937
>>13817948
Oh look fixed structures with a bottom heavy centre of mass and don't use bullshit magic, similar to this entirely unrelated static structure with a bottom heavy centre of mass.

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>>13819472
>Thanks to ground pressure
>T h a n k s t o g ro u n d p r e s s u r e
>T h a n k s t o g r o u n d p r e s s u r e

What would you say the material of Wrecking ball meck is? Aluminium? steel? Bullshit techno magic?

Because we have a weight for Gundam 43.4 metric tons, that is a little over twice that of an f 22. The most unbelievable technology needed is compact reactor(which your retard ball would also need, unless the huge sphere is filled with gasoline) And wait for it! Lunar titanium a moderately improved version of titanium, wow how far fetched, humankind sure does not have a history of gradually developing better metal alloys.

Now stupid world building justification of mecha aside, if you boil it down to pure necessary sciences you need to quite literally fuck the laws of physics in the ass to justify a 100m tall metal sphere that probably weighs in around a 100000 tons WITHOUT the fuck huge guns on the back.

>>13816981
You honestly think the shape of a giant robot somehow makes it more realistic?

You are dumb as hell. That giant golf ball strapped with a hundred dildos is bigger and way more impractical than any 'stupid humanoid mecha' you talk shit on. That thing would fall apart under Earth's gravity.

Why don't you go back to /k/ and jerk off to pictures of tanks like all the other dipshits?

>>13816981
You do realize that the 2nd opening actually shows a bipedal object?

>>13819788

We've had an influx of MUH REALISM fags lately.

>>13820563
We really have haven't we? I feel like I see more discussions about inane realism BS than ever, not to mention what feels like a suspiciously high number of video game threads. I will never understand why fools come to /m/ if they hate giant robots so much, much less cartoons in general. Maybe it's just me.

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>>13817550
It's already been done.

>>13817132
I hate to break it to you but spider mecha are even more retarded than humanoid mecha. Adding extra legs accomplishes nothing, but adding pointless complexity and cost to the machine. Not to mention bi-pedal locomotion is far more efficient than quadrupedal locomotion.

You can keep calling them "retarded" all you want, but it is clearly you that are the retard here.

>>13817132
>Then GuP happened.

You mean World of Tanks happened, and then GuP happened. Last time I check those shows use real historical tanks. If they had used sci-fi tanks then they would have flopped. Those products are successful because of the nostalgia and national pride aspects of them. Making it futuristic with fictional tanks would mean they would flop hard without an established market to target. They would have to make one out of thin air.

>>13817561
Except GitS is not a mecha anime, so the response still fails to adequately answer the question.

>>13820872
I'm pretty sure a large portion of Girls & Panzer's main demographic wouldn't have known very much about historical tanks.

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>>13817184
>For the vast majority of people giant humanoid robots are just dumb.

Then how do you explain the mecha genre being far, far larger than the tank genre?

>But not for serious shows.

Because GuP and Dominion Tank Police, the only anime series about tanks, are sooooooo serious and realistic right? You do realize you keep arguing yourself into a corner right? Retard.

>>13820892
Not him but at the same time pretty sure the stuff that made it interesting wouldn't have worked with made up futuristic tanks.

You'd be surprised at how popular WW2 shit actually is, also considering the fact that they they did put in plenty of popular tanks that even people disinterested would have heard of.

>>13817670
>Because they are small and light they suffer much less from high G.

It also means you can't withstand as much high G too. It turns out that having big muscles are more beneficial to withstanding high Gs than they are hurtful. This is because muscles can store oxygen which the body can feed off of without needing blood to flow steadily through your veins.

>>13817778
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY BD

>>13820791
>why fools come to /m/ if they hate giant robots so much

Because stop liking something I don't like so that I don't feel miserable watching you guys chill and having fun.

Source - used to be there before I /m/anned up.

>>13820794
Wow !

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>>13816981
The original and novel concept - so good

>>13820794
Well, any post xxv or something Bolo could solo all objects at the same time, there would be no real tactics involved.

>>13819582

HO's don't touch ground though.

>The Object floats through a combination of static electricity and a special static electricity repellent sprayed on the ground. This repellent has a distinctive smell, but breaks down naturally in a few days and is harmless to plants and animals. This is only to make the Object float, the actual forward movement system varies. For example, the Baby Magnum uses lasers to detonate the air

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>>13819788

50m tall ball would fall apart due to gravity but 500m tall buildings don't?

>>13820864
>Not to mention bi-pedal locomotion is far more efficient than quadrupedal locomotion

For small animals. Oh wait, no. Even then it's not true since almost all small animals have four legs.

And literally all large land animals in history had four legs.

>>13820872

WoT was never popular in Japan.

>>13821694
It would sort of matter on the manner of construction.

You could probably make a quite large statue of a Gundam - that had zero articulation or very little articulation.

Which they've done, actually. At least up to the scale of the thing.

You could probably even make one that wouldn't fall apart under it's own weight, but not walk well. Not with our technology anyway.

>>13821708
Guess which one dominating the food chain?

>>13821694
Tall buildings are pile drived rooted to the ground though.

>>13822355

Which has absolutely nothing to do with mobility?

Humans have shit mobility compared to almost all other animals of similar size.

And mechas don't need fingers for constructing tools.

Average adult human has ground pressure of about 8psi. Average adult elephant 35psi. Abrams tank weighing 70 tons have 15psi.

Now imagine an Abrams but on two legs. And then imagine what happens if it tries jumping.

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>>13822375
>156 tons dry, 168 max
>feet give it an absolutely massive surface area on the ground

I think Dai-Guard actually would have less ground pressure than a tank. Easily so if the feet had a system that dissipates the pressure when it takes a step which I think I remember hearing something about.

If you want to talk Mobile Suits they tend to have less weight than an Abrams (RX-78-2 is 60 metric tons max) with a greater surface area on the ground being common since it's a whole two feet, each one of which has more coverage than a pair of treads since they're a larger flat surface. The ones that go way beyond 70 (Z'Gok approaches 100) tend to have much larger feet.

>>13824163

Ah, dai-guard. Everyones favorite show to shitpost about muh realism with

>>13824163

But it also looks super clumsy with those legs.

>>13824529

It looks super many things. That's what a super robot does, after all.

>>13816981
That... THING undeniably the most objectively awful mechanical design I've ever seen. It's so bad.
>stupid fucking legs
>square-cube law like lol physics
>weapons haphazardly thrown onto a big ugly cg sphere
>looks like a fucking turkey
>that color scheme
It just makes me so fucking angry.

>>13825534
it literally looks like it was made as a mockery of "muh realism" fags

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Op

Enjoy the ball-mock

>>13820907
Loli fag status
[]Not told
[X] Told

>>13825534

Looks much better than Gundams.

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