January 25th, 1938. The day that gave us both Ishinomori and Leiji.

>>13795251
Ishinomori = god
Leiji = overrated artist by people who don't know any better

>>13795476
>overrated
>I've been on six years and I've never heard of him
Now, Ishinimori, HE'S overrated

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>>13795476
>>13795523

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WELL THIS THREAD IS OFF TO A GREAT START

Let's post things we like from these great artists

>>13795523
>never heard of leiji matsumoto
That's... shameful. You shouldn't be browsing this board, or watching anime for that matter.

>>13795251
Happy Birthday to both of them.

Too bad /m/ has gone down the drain that no followed the common courtesy.

>>13795711
Matsumotofags are annoying as fuck, as they're the narutards of retro anime/manga.

His series are alright, but overrated as fuck. Not to mention he can't draw to save his life.

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>>13795729

If anyone is interested, Ishinomori's Zelda manga has new scans on kickthekitty's blog.

>>13795799
I'm never shutting up about Lazy Matsumoto.

>>13795835
Man, I have so many fond memories of that Zelda manga. It was actually my first exposure to Ishinomori as a kid, in the pages of Nintendo Power. I never realized he also did Kamen Rider until many years later, when I came to /m/ and started watching KR.

>>13795854
My first exposure to Ishinomori was the 2001 Cyborg 009 series on Toonami. The lack of good subs only makes it more painfull.

>>13795251
God bless and happy birthday to them both

>>13795653

LAST NIGHT I HAD A DREAM ABOUT YOU

>>13795523

Ishinomori is easily one the best. If he's overrated the same goes to the entire anime/manga industry.

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>>13795729
>Matsumotofags are annoying as fuck, as they're the narutards of retro anime/manga.
>not Ishinomorifags who figuratively jerk off to literal battle shonen
The delusion is real
>Not to mention he can't draw to save his life.
Sorry, what? And we're comparing him to Ishinomori, a guy who doesn't even stand up to American newspaper comics?
Leiji Matsumoto, the guy who practically invented bishoujo?

>>13799397
Name a single good Ishinomori manga. No, not na "okay" one like Cyborg 009, I mean an actual good one.

>>13799515
>Name a single good Ishinomori manga.
Cyborg 009.
Fuck you.

>>13799006
IN THIS DREAM, I'M DANCING RIGHT BESIDE YOU

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>>13799515
>Sorry, what? And we're comparing him to Ishinomori, a guy who doesn't even stand up to American newspaper comics?
Ishinomori is said to be Tezuka's equal, you dumbshit.

Leiji Matsumoto on the other hand is so fucking shite at actually drawing manga. I'm not talking about the animated adaptations where his obvious lack of drawing ability is fixed by the animators. I'm talking about his own bloody drawing skills. He doesn't finish most of the manga he starts on, he copies the same shit in a lot of panels. He often avoids drawing full human bodies because he's either lazy, or terribly incompetent at it. To top it off, none of his panels have any sort of background whatsoever. This is why he's known as Lazy Matsumoto, and this is why matsumotofags are the most delusional of them all.

>>13799515
Name a single good Matsumoto manga. That's a much much harder challenge.

Don't say Yamato or anything like that, because the actual manga he did is absolute dog turd.

>>13799539
You have to be 18+ to browse this site, shonenshitter.

>>13800108
>Tezuka's equal
Wow, it's fucking nothing
>he's lazy
Yes, meanwhile Ishinimori can't draw shit when he's actually trying.

>>13800118
>Name a single good Matsumoto manga. That's a much much harder challenge.
Space Pirate Captain Harlock

you guys sure are angry over men who just draw for a living

>>13800191
it's not the men who draw
it's the people who dare to like them

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>>13800158
>best manga artist in the history of manga artists
>that's fucking nothing
ok

>Ishinimori can't draw shit
Lol, delusional matsumoto fag. Ishinomori has better panelling, better inking, better facial expressions, literally everything about Ishinomori is better.

>Space Pirate Captain Harlock
TOP FUCKING KEK.

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>>13800231
>best manga artist in the history of manga artists
Holy shit talk about delusion.
>Lol, delusional matsumoto fag. Ishinomori has better panelling, better inking, better facial expressions, literally everything about Ishinomori is better.
Except for his ability to actually draw.
>TOP FUCKING KEK.
It's [CURRENT YEAR] and Ishinomori still has het to draw anything nearly as well as that half-assed ship.

>>13800249
>Except for his ability to actually draw.
He draws fine. It's Matsumoto who can't draw for shit. That's why all of his manga are so fucking bland and shit.

>Ishinomori still has het to draw anything nearly as well as that half-assed ship.
Ishinomori draws what he does best, and those are super heroes.

Matsumoto is doing space drams, so he should be good at doing that kind of stuff. Instead, he comes up with that half assed crap he calls ship.

What a fucking hack.

This thread reads like something from /v/. You guys call yourself /m/ yet here you are bitching and whining like /v/ermin.

Pathetic.

>>13799515
>Name a single good Ishinomori manga. No, not na "okay" one like Cyborg 009, I mean an actual good one.

Have you ever tried Sabu and Ichi or Ryuu no Michi?

>thread made to celebrate the birthday of these 2 creators
>everyone just shits on them and argues

>>13800420
I've noticed that people who really like to get into the classics tend to sperg whenever there's discussion about it. This thread along with Nagai and Ishikawa threads are proof of that. Also animation threads, though that's technically a different kind of autism

I reada a couple of Leiji comics. They're awful, even if I like some of Leiji anime.

>>13800264
>Ishinomori draws what he does best, and those are super heroes.

He's a lot more than that. Superheroes are not even some of his finest works.

>Ishinomori
The faggot cancer of /m/ who invented tokushit

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>>13801298
>his work was loosely adapted into a live action series
>therefor he "invented" toku

>>13801298

Low tier bait right here.

If there wasn't any other proof that this board has gone to shit

>>13801252
This so fucking much. Matsumoto is bloody awful at his own manga. The anime version of his works pretty much made him famous. If it weren't for Toei, Matsumoto would have remained a nobody.

I like both despite the flaws their manga have.

>>13801894

Name one artist without flaws.

>>13802743
Kamye West

>>13802743
Ishikei.