>>13784229 >so why are the kits selling? Because the hero kits always sold - the problem was with the rest of the line. Nobody really bought the grunt suits or ones piloted by the secondary cast; UC isn't built on the backs of Gundams, its built on the backs of GM and Zaku variants. For AUs, it's not all that different.
>>13784202 Are you intentionally being retarded? MG Freedom was already a faithful Akutsu version and looked basically perfect, this thing is just "lel what the fuck do we do now" like every version up MG post Gundam 2.0.
I actually kind of like this design on its own besides having no idea what the fuck is going on with the cannons, but I hate the idea it's going to replace the previous one in pleb's minds rather than being marketed as a variation.
>>13784889 Strike is a weird case because it tended to be animated with pretty wildly different proportions depending what pack it was using let alone anything else and had like three totally different faceplate designs in closeups for some reason. There is a lot of different ways you can do that design and have it be right to someone.
>>13784898 Much like when they animate Katoki designs so they don't consist of 90% legs.
>>13784916 >Much like when they animate Katoki designs so they don't consist of 90% legs. Except they do, because Katoki can draw things that can be animated instead of turds. Honestly, I think every mecha designer out there can do that except Okawara.
Why do higher grade SEED kits seem to deliberately avoid being on-model? I don't mean animation model per say, but just, resembling the mecha as it was designed, and portrayed when the show was in circulation. I'm not just talking Katoki stuff ether. Pretty much every high grade model or figure of the strike freedom makes up some crazy gold skeletal bullshit for the binders.
Obviously stuff like the RX-78-2 gets embellished compared to it's original art, but most of the other Gundam kits seem to strive for accuracy towards the original art, usually just added things like extra panel lines and altering proportions a bit.
>>13785044 Turn X was pretty accurate. Then again Mead's designs seemed to go through some of the least amount of changes in portions and detailing when done over by Beecraft. Probably because his illustrations gave hints and details for possible engineering of the kits. Turn A's knees and elbows come to mind.
>>13785040 >>13785048 I think fans of SEED suits really buy into the general image and reputation of the suits, and not the design specifics. There are liberties taken with SEED kits I don't think the people buying them even notice.
>>13785051 BEECRAFT didn't do MG Turn X. They don't really credit who does the lineart anymore, but it's generally safe to assume it's Katoki. Who, despite what /m/ might lead you to believe, does actually have restraint when he's not doing a full on vKa.
The MG SEED HD Remaster kits are weird, because they have never once said who actually drew them up. The only lineart scans are from magazines, and from there you can at least see that it wasn't Katoki (wrong pose), but there aren't any credits so who the fuck knows.
>>13784164 >Looks like Katoki got his hands on it or something. Every time whenever new kit revealed to have redesigned proportion. >That must be Katoki! Is Katoki the Golgom of gunpla world or something?
>>13785105 This is too,true it took me a while to start noticing that they tend to do that I tend to do it as well,although when I started I used to copy okawara's style now mine seems to have gone through many evolutions after copying many artists
>>13785720 I think now that I'm getting some feeling for the really weird perspective in that shot, it's just the end of the barrel being shaped really goofy to add more fins. You can see them in the back shot. I kind of like the little wing up at the base of the cannon but those ones just look dumb.
>>13787414 By the way said little wing means the cannons can't aim any kind of downwards whatsoever anymore, but I guess it supports them off the torso if that was actually some sort of problem people actually had with the old MG (I have not had it in HiMAT Full Burst for a long time)
>>13787437 >herp derp if they change perspective it must be a different artist even if it's drawn with the exact same design sense and line style and he's drawn different perspectives all the time Stupid fucking autism kids.
You have to be blind to think the original MG Nu was even close to a straight adaption of Katoki's art, they pretty much just used the panel lines then changed the proportions back towards Izubuchi everywhere. The manual art almost looks more like MG Hi-Nu.
>>13787929 It's kind of pointless to argue about it because everyone will interpret things differently, but look at the "lace" section on the feet. Compare the relative width of the shin armour at the ankle and the knee and how aggressively it slopes inward. How much leg coverage there is on the skirt plates.
Most blatantly, look at the entire height:width ratio of the torso section and the slope of the chest, although the MG one is still not overall as big as Izubuchi its own proportions are way closer to its flat, wide shape. On Katoki's art it slopes in really aggressively to make a very compact, almost SEED-like chest.
Those overly compact torsos are an issue a lot of Katoki plamo designs from the early 2000s suffer from even if they're otherwise fine but MG Nu countered it quite a bit and is actually really damn close to the original 1/100 CCA kit.
I appreciate that Katoki did a good job on Turn A and some other things but on early MGs he just wasn't so heavily involved in the look of the things past doing basic sketches with more defined details than the original anime art.
You've also got really weird shit like them trying to standardize parts on Alex and GM Custom so Katoki drew stuff that was blatantly off model from his own design and then the actual model is blatantly off model from both.
>>13787646 the balaenas look weird. I've come to terms with it not looking somewhat accurate to the animation model(it has to, it's an MG) but at least make good looking gimmicks. They should've just made exhaust ports on both the Xiphias and the Balaenas. And that rifle really looks stupid.
Are people actually upset over the proportions? It's a Freedom, you've got so many other options in varying scales for this MS. Plus you already have an MG Freedom and a 1/100 No Grade, just kit bash until you have the proportions you want. Personally, I think it looks fine.
>>13788660 The problem is the shitty Gunpla culture that believes the newest MG is the best and only version of an MS that matters, which is really why I wish they'd call it some sort of offshoot instead of TWO POINT OH.
I mean I see people recommending MG Duel without any qualifications to people that just want a Duel because apparently the fact it barely fucking looks like any of its appearances and there is a great RD for AS and a decent 1/100 Duel that do doesn't matter. They wank off Gundam ver.Origin because it can do a wider range of arbitrary and irrelevant poses regardless of how fucking weird it looks.
If we're really unlucky they'll even force this design in other material to promote it.
Katoki has patrician taste. Sadly his fans does not. That is why all the recent stuff he designed are all about greebling and autistic gimmicks like opening useless hatches and retarded transformations.
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