Is there anything in IBO that a past gundam show hasn't

>>13782681
not even the fujo pandering is done as well as i expected or hoped it would be

>>13782681
It fails at things even Age got down pat.

>>13782690
00 had the superior fujo pandering in my opinion.

>>13782681
its a lot more coherent then reco, less offensive than destiny and age.

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>>13782681
Awkwardly placed shots in the middle of conversations about starting a violent revolution?

>>13782775
Might not be the best fujo pandering but c'mon, Imagay is up there.

>>13782753
And neither statement is correct

Metal-on-metal melee combat, at least in the 3 episodes before space.

That's about it.

>>13782779
No he is lazy pandering and not even well thought out. Good fujo pandering actually has more going on, something like free or perfect stride where they are always going on with gay metaphors. Imagay is at best a very lazy tsun

>>13782779
He's kawaii as fuck but that shot totally killed any seriousness that scene could have had.

>>13782824
To be fair the scene had fuck all going on. It was just "we are gonna do that thing soon, look or life is shitty with ipads and decent clean apartments"

>>13782838
That whole uprising sideplot was retarded. You'd think more guards would be sent in to crush the tiny amount left after the first shootout but instead everyone just stands around with their thumb up their ass.

>>13782851
What can guards do against someone slowly picking their gun? Or some people standing in the middle of the street with weapons we've seen are 100% ineffective against a mobile suit?

>>13782736
Well 00 had literal confirmed gay pairings and the MC didn't care about girls

>>13782681
IBO is the best at having orphans and reminding you constantly that they're space debris, but a family.

>>13782681
Even SEED/Destiny has more interesting characters.

>>13782894
Gundam X did that better without filling the cast up with orphans nor hittin you in the head about it.

>>13782880
>Well 00 had literal confirmed gay pairings
no it didn't

This is simple. Mars. The only other Mars we got is the fujo's wet dream Frozen Teardrop, The dumbshit Vegans who stay behind to get Mars Cancer, the group that builds some units in SEED. So in all of AU, IBO has done Mars the best.

>>13782995
Too bad they leave Mars after like five episodes and are still fucking around in space.

>>13782753
All wrong.

>>13782976
Gundam X was actually good.

>>13782981
>Alejandro and Ribbons
>Tieria and Lockon (one-sided)

>>13783203
Alejandro and Ribbons are campy villains, not gay.

Tiera only has eyes for Veda.

>>13782681
No Gundam show has done anything better than the previous ones in 15 years.

>>13783266
G-Reco has arguably the best animation out of all of the TV gundams.

Showing rather than telling that among their factions some aren't clearly morally superior.

>>13783266
CE Gundam was awesome so this statement is wrong by default.

>>13783203
>One sided
>Pairing

Does one person having a crush that isn't returned, count as a pairing really?

>>13783334
How so?

>>13783275
How are we defining "best animation" here? Overall fluidness? Highest highs? Most creative battle choreography? Character movement?

Then again G-Reco scores pretty highly on almost all of those, huh.

>>13783067
Well...yes? That's the point.

>>13783366
I just meant on a strictly technical level. But I would agree that it also has great choreography.

>>13783366
All of the above.

>>13783334
Pig pirate captain says hi. Or oink, I guess.

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>>13783334
None of the factions have done anything noteworthy since the third episode. The whole show has just been two factions giving exposition on why they want Kudelia dead and then everyone else rambling about family while Not Char and Not Garma go on fun space adventures. Damn now I want a show focused on them.

>>13782995
>fujo's wet dream Frozen Teardrop

Why the fuck would Fujo like something that paired up all the male characters with girls and some of them even had kids? FT did Mars better because it actually talked about the terraforming process and explored the planet.

>>13783230
They have sex in the Special Edition.

>>13783410
My god who thought that was a good idea. The design of them, the personalities and just the whole plot line or more accurately filler.

I know what exactly is gundam has become unclear but they were so unGundam, even G Gundam was more subtle

>>13782995
>IBO has done Mars the best
>we have corn of whores

>>13783500
post proof

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>>13782694
>even AGE is better than IBO

>>13783483
Not Char and Garma have been so wasted. They are fine in concept but they the biggest thing they did was a 2 minute battle.

Also it confuses the fuck out of me on different sites when people go "oh hey a masked man, finally char has shown up!" Like seriously can they not tell? It not being him and being his long lost evil brother would be more surprising, well maybe not for IBO

>>13783580
well it is true

>>13783483
>the white van has windows in the back
Doing it wrong.

>>13782681
Having a main character that never whines or cries. The closest we've ever gotten to an MC as BOSS as Mikazuki was Garrod Ran, and even he had his moments.
When bad things happen to nice people, Mikazuki doesn't cry over feelings of helplessness like Kira, doesn't bitch about being dragged into other people's conflicts like Amuro, doesn't whine about how sad it makes him like Kamille, or vow tearful revenge like Flit. He just goes RAGE ON and tries to choke-slam people twice his size. Even Domon angsted about KYOOOOOJIIIII all the time, but Mikazuki just gets serious and GETS. SHIT. DONE.

And no, don't even try with that Heero "I'm so sorrowful that I'm going to offer to let every family member of all of my victims shoot me" Yui.

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>>13783580
At this point there's no doubt.

>>13783602
Instead he is fine with everything, doesn't care about the plot and the most emotion he shows is saying "yeah i care family" or gritting teeth in battle. He is more like a shell of a character that hasn't had components put in yet to make him interesting, just the basic cares about friends and wants to fight bad guys. He also is right on track for a understanding ending where he learns killing is bad

Plus Tobia was much better with all that and had a personality to go with it

>>13783607
Well they're actually animated and not just a still so its already better than most IBO fights

>>13783614
I'm sure IBO has had at least one well-animated fight. I just can't remember it.

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>>13783602
>Having a main character that never whines or cries

That means he's boring. Just like the rest of IBO.

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>>13783592

>>13783632
Much better

>>13783626

That's funny, I thought it was the hallmark of a character who's a coward and a putz on this board.

>>13783612
>he is fine with everything
Except someone fucking with Atra, or Cookie and Cracker. He is not fine with that at all.
>where he learns killing is bad
Lizardman already tried that angle, it didn't even make a dent.
"I'm...enjoying killing?
Whatever, this one's good to die anyway."

Mikazuki kills on a daily basis and has for as long as he can remember. He's well past any moral dilemma. The kid is the walking embodiment of pragmatism.
>>13783626
>Belliri calling another character boring
top genki, neesan.

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>>13783639
You were expecting /m/ to be happy to get what it wants ever?

>>13783602
I don't really call Uso or Garrod crying or whining much at all. If you want to go into whole "badass and kills people without remorse" argument, those two have far greater killcounts than Mika.

>>13783671
/m/ is not a hivemind. some people like seeing the main character turn to a pile of mush every time he's confronted with anything remotely difficult or unpleasant. Others like seeing a determined and capable MC.

>>13783602
>Having a main character that never whines or cries.
Seabook is better.

>>13783684
When Tiffa went off into space, Garrod was a blubbering pile of tears. He also had to have Jamil drive him out into the middle of nowhere and throw the G-Con out onto a frozen lake to break him out of his depression and feelings of helplessness.
Uso only cried when a hot woman who was inappropriately "into" him died. Except that happened A LOT in Victory. He also got upset about people not reacting fast enough to his "warnings", was disturbed by killing women in bikinis, and got really, really emotional about Katejina's apparent brain transmogrification.

>>13783699
I guess if you mean literally "never." Okay. But it's not like those two constantly had angst like Kamille or something.

>>13783687
Found the Jojo fag.

>>13783684
>>13783699
Uso also cried when his other comrades died, his parents died, and even when he murdered this one Zanscare soldier, and showed his wife and daughter his grave (which was alongside all the other graves of the people who died around him).
Uso is one of the better, if not best, developed UC Gundam protagonists, it's a shame people never give Victory the time of day because "lol so depressing xD people are dying". Narrowing down Victory only to the 4 or 5 episodes in total in which Shrike Team members die or the ending does it injustice.

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>>13783687
Deadpan/emotionless characters are not shit by default, but what it all comes down to is the fact that your characters should fit the story. So far you can't really tell why the fuck Mika should have the personality of a brick wall. To show that martian war orphans have gotten so used to suffering that they don't care anymore? Well the rest of the cast doesn't seem like it.

So far it has been only a detriment that the protagonist is the most boring character in the entire show. Orga should have died episodes ago to get something interesting going on with the character development but i guess not.

>>13783602

Autist MCs without mental breakdown moments are shit tier.

>>13783762
What's worse it barely plays into the story. People don't even really react to his weirdness and only Kudelia really did a bit, not even a oh that's just Mika they just don't seem to notice. You could cut mika out the show and stick any of the other boys in and there'd really not be any big change for the show, stuff like his whole economic speech would even make more sense coming out of someone like Biscuit.

I figured seeing as he was so close to Orga there would be drama there, he'd get an order he found he actually disliked and started to think for himself. Problem is Orga has been pretty spot on and Mika can think for himself anyway, he just never seems to have anything big to think about outside I guess I should kiss a girl. i figured we might get a traumatic event which we see is how he lost emotions and has to rebuild them over the course of the show, but apparently he has been the same since little and there isn't enough time now to properly flesh that all out. A lot of shows struggle with picking an angle and sticking to it, but with Mika they never even picked an angle and he just sort of floated by

Imagine you are making the next Gundam game and you have to put Mika in, what do you even have him say in battle? "I'm okay with this" he just has nothing about him

>>13783795
>what do you even have him say in battle?
"muh family", obviously.

>>13783687
Mika is suppose to be tragic not a badass.

>>13783835
The two are very far from being mutually exclusive.

>>13783722
I have literally never even read a single issue. The art is WAY too fabulous for me. I tried playing the game once, but went back to Street Fighter.
So...not even sure what you're trying to imply here, but whatever.

>>13783878
You are suppose to feel sorry for him because he is an autistic that can't express his emotions properly. The whole point of Jewhime is for her to open up Mika with her love.

at least is not zeta when gary stus dodge bullets on a narrow hallway like magic

>>13783577
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwG9Wqt25vY
I'm sure he just walked him home gently.

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>>13783684
Uso cried a lot but considering the hell he went through it's justified.

>>13782681
Everyone in this show has nice hair

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>>13783656
>Bellri
>boring

https://twitter.com/pKjd/status/690804681828794368
Maybe more

>>13782753
>its a lot more coherent then reco

True, but that is because almost nothing has happened.

>>13783275
>G-Reco has arguably the best animation out of all of the TV gundams.

Even Turn-A is better than G-reco. It's amazing how many of you greco-fags are blinded by the shitty photoshop filter they lazily slapped onto everything. It looked awful and amateurish.

>>13783602

MD Geist did it better.

>>13783500
Strictly saying, no, they don't.

>>13782753
>its a lot more coherent then reco
That's not really saying much. Also IBO has the opposite problem where it's story and characters are all too flat and unengaging.