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Does Macross Delta even have a Macross?
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Are there any details on what ship Delta Squadron and Walkure is stationed on?

It looks like they're a really small force which wouldn't need something as large as a New Macross-class carrier which are tied to the expedition fleets anyway so I doubt they'd have one. They might have a Quarter but then that is still the size of a regular carrier and I'm not sure if LAI or SMS have branches in the Outer Rim that can supply them with one. Or will we see an entirely new class of smaller Macross ships that are even more agile than the Quarter so it could join Walkure's performances?

Personally, I wish that whatever Macross they have starts as a group of separate ships that can optionally dock together, unlike the New Macross-class or the Quarter that start out as a whole but can become independent ships. And not all the ships are military with some dedicated for Walkure/civilian use such as a recording studio/concert hall ship, hospital ship for treating Var sufferers etc. It could then gattai into a proper Macross ship if needed. Would be a nice callback to the original SDF-1 which did have its own city being the non-military part of the ship.
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>>13782308
I mean you could check the archives but why not
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There was a Quarter in the previews.
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>>13782308
>Does Macross Delta even have a Macross
Yes
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>>13782308
>Does Macross Delta even have a Macross?

Yes. There are five Macrosses in your picture.
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>>13782909
please god tell me you're baiting
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Yes they do have a Macross... Quarter.

Ever since Wings of Goodbye we've seen variants.

While we've seen Quarters with SMS it does not mean they are exclusive to them.

Remember while Earth gives Monkey Models it doesn't mean they don't want the stuff developed by fleets and colonies.

While Yaesu Heavy Industries and the L.A.I. Corporation took charge of design and completed construction in a dock inside Frontier of Macross Quarter R&D was done on Eden by Hashuu Heavy Industry Vessel Technical Research Institute and Shinsei Industry Vessel Design Headquarters.
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>>13783798
Macross 17 Macross Quarter
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>>13783809
Macross 23 Macross Quarter
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>>13783813
TV Macross Quarter
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>>13783819
Movies Macross Quarter
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Man, the quarter is such a sleek design and it kind of makes sense to have them, they could station two and just make a ship exclusive to pulling the colony instead of it being a macross and it would still be pretty well defended, or they could do what Frontier did and let the Quarter handle anything that is not really critical, letting the Battle Frontier handle the bigger problems
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>>13783863
The main problem with Macross shows is that anything that is not the main Macross or its associated crew tends to get fucked by whatever enemies they're facing.

In all of the battle scenes, you see Valkyries and combat ships being blown up like they're fucking nothing, which makes it hard to take the fights too seriously. Even in the original SDF you see literally over a dozen Valkyries being shot down in each fight, and it's hard to believe that there were that many stationed on the Macross at the time that it flew into space (it's almost as hard to believe that the Macross would have manufacturing facilities or raw resources to produce enough Valkyries to replace the losses).
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They do have one and this is it's captain.
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>>13783910
This is how I feel watching 7. Literally every week a fleet of ships are sent out and every week a shit ton of them get blown up by Protodeviln. It makes me wonder how do they even have that many to get blown up?

At a certain point I thought they were using drones, but nope, they were still people

>>13784080
So this is our first full main Zentraedi captain of a Macross right? I know the Macross 5 had one but he ded
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>>13784084
>ゼントラーディと地球人のハーフ
>ハーフ
He's half Zentradi
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>>13783910
Macross ships have goodly mass production power due to protoculture tech
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>>13784246
Manpower is still a huge issue though. Yeah, you have around 50,000 civilians living on your space ship, but you can't hope to train enough of them up to snuff to sustain the losses that you're sure to take (moreso since a it will eventually degrade your fighting strength to nothing once you run out of experienced pilots, which is exactly what happened to Japan in WWII).
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>>13784369
>not cloning an army of loli aliens to fight for you
Pleb
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So she got an erection on her head from music?
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>>13784551
Doujins when
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>>13784551
>mfw hair erections will be a thing
>mfw the male Windemere's can get hair erections once they experience DECULTURE
>mfw, if the guys discover how to sing, there will be a scene where Freyja's hair erects for another man
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>>13784551
And I thought Ranka's dog hair was dumb
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>>13784599
You shut your whore mouth.
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>>13784604
BRING IT ON ZENDRATI FUCKFACE
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>>13784611
>ZENDRATI
Not him but if you're going to shitpost at least learn to spell it correctly.
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>>13784637
>he doesn't know about the zentradi's retarded cousins, the zendrati
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>>13784648
>he makes retarded shit up in a futile attempt to cover up his autism
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>>13782930

which mac would you cross?
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>>13784637
>implying those alien fucks deserve to be named in the first place.
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>tfw macross gets worse every time
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>>13784681
>implying those same aliens weren't relevant in repopulating humanity and exploring the galaxy after they bombarded the planet to a near lifeless husk and made the human race an endangered species
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>>13784664
>he's mentally crippled and can't detect an obvious joke on the internet
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>>13784774
To be fair, one million humans isn't exactly an endangered species. You thinned out the gene pool a lot, sure, but one million can easily re-populate to a significant degree. After all, civilization effectively jumped from one billion up to around seven or so in the space of a century.
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>>13784801
Perhaps. But when you don't have much of a planet left to live in food and resources become very limited. Humanity also had to use Zentradi cloning to help them repopulate aside from the traditional means.
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Reminder Mikumo is best girl.
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>it's a Delta thread
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I have lost count of how many times I have watched the preview. April can't come soon enough.
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>>13785873
You are a sad little man
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>>13784774
>one million humans
>endangered
unless all of them are japanese they can repopulate with no problems
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>>13785890
Says the anon calling out other people for enjoying something. Maybe someday you'll find something you like too.
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>>13784394
>cloning an army of loli aliens to fight for you

Not possible. Since FTL in Macross isn't relativistic, there's no drama, brain boxes, and despair to power their existence.
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>>13783798
This is not a quarter, but a new class of 1km > macross battleship.

Look how tiny the bridge is compared to the quarter.
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>>13786007
So how long until they say fuck it and build a VF sized macross?
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>>13785902

You do realize that Japan isn't actually much different from the US or much of Europe in that regard right? Japan is and has been 1.4 for years, while the US is and has been 1.9 for years. Average age of males and females isn't much different either. Males in Japan are 45 to 37 in the US, with women being 48 in Japan and 39. It's basically the same story across most of the developed world. There are very few remaining developed countries where the number of births per woman is above 2.0. If Japan is fucked, the US and the rest of us ain't far behind them.
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>>13786011
They kinda already did. The latest VFs can fold and have their own pinpoint barriers.
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When are we going to get Valkyries that can gattai? I feel like we're overdue for this
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>>13786106

You mean like in pic?
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>>13786106
Closest we got were Fire Bomber and their Sound Boosters. Now Aerial Knights having deployable Ghosts.

Shoji Kawamori did think once of a Valkyrie combiner.
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>>13786161
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>>13786130
>>13786161
>>13786165
God Bless you Kawamori
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>>13786161
I don't think combination works for valkyries. They look too much like real life planes.
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>>13786161

Gelgoog? What are you doing in Macross?
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>>13786007
>Look how tiny the bridge is compared to the quarter.
You sure its not just perspective?
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>>13786195
>They look too much like real life planes.
Yeah because that stopped anything that we saw what they did with Valkyries in 7
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>>13786007
Still looks like a Quarter variant.
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>>13786191

>>13786130 wasn't Kawamori. That'd from Kikou Souseiki MOSPEADA.
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>>13786281
Judging by the size it looks like a Macross class. Maybe they based it off the Quarter's design.
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>>13786339
Depending on the size of the buildings near it, I'd still be willing too believe it's a Quarter.

The Quarter class may be small by Macross standards, but they're still fucking huge.
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>>13784369
The manpower thing was brought up in the original macross. That's why Max and I think it was Kenzaki was recruited and Hikaru was appointed as their superior officer because he was one of the few surviving pilots with combat experience or something like that.
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>>13786043
There are a shitload of differences. For starters, Japan's population is limited by geography, a huge fucking chunk live in Tokyo or its surrounding areas, there's literally no room to grow. They also have an unhealthy as fuck workaholic culture, who wants to be a stay-at-home mom when you could instead be working at an office for the good of your country?

And as much as people like to make fun of the US and Europe for being xenophobic, it's nowhere near as bad as it is in Japan. The US and Europe are diverse enough that a respectable amount of their population growth comes from welcoming immigrants from all over the world.

>>13786044
They already had those as early as Macross 7, 20 years earlier holy shit, in real time and in Macross time, that can't be a coincidence.
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>>13786350
Yeah. Granted they aren't a solid solid mass, but in cruiser mode they are still longer than modern super carriers and pack over 60 aircraft and destroids, none of which are particularly tiny.
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>>13782308
If it's combining the "journey to become an idol" with mecha combat and makes the music magic, then it's macross
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>>13789503

> makes the music magic

SDF Macross isn't Macross apparently.
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>>13789513
not him, but it kinda had the whole culture shock effect on the zentradi,not magic but close enough
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>>13789544
>not magic but close enough
so if I surprise somebody with something they haven't seen it's the same as alchemy
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>>13785523
I don't know what it is about this artstyle but god is it awful. I think it's something to do with their eyes. They're too...gooey or something.
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>>13789552
well...around 200 years ago if you had showed someone a cell phone they probably would've thought the same so...
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>>13789558
I think its a step up from Frontier.
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>>13789558
I know what you mean,the episode had a tendency to go off model with the eyes a lot and make them seem kinda fluid at times. I don't think it's too bad, but in a way it's reminiscent to the original macross.
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>>13789560
It's not magic.

Actually, it was a pretty interesting way for the show's themes about culture to come across. Macross hasn't really recaptured that since then.
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>>13789568
hopefully we'll see stuff like that in delta and get a glimpse of how human culture has changed as they traversed the stars and interacted with more races.
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>>13789568
Because they're not trying to.
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>>13789558
>I don't know what it is about this artstyle but god is it awful. I think it's something to do with their eyes.
Same could be said about SDF's "artstyle".
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After finally watching the Delta preview, I have no idea why it's hated on so hard.

fuck freija though
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Why doesn't Itano do work on Macross anymore? Did he have a falling out with Kawamori, or something?
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>>13789637
If his interviews are anything to go by the guy is a massive egotistical asshole so it's plausible he's a cunt to work with.
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>>13789630
The most popular complaint seems to be "ew it has idol girls".
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>>13789568
It would just be a rehash of SDF if they tried. They already do that at least once per series anyways, with the Meltrandi fleet in 7 and the Zentradi base on that planet in Frontier.

They have to settle with variations on the theme now. In 7 it was teaching the Protodeviln how to generate Spiritia through singing, and in Frontier it was connecting with and understanding the Vajra. I expect something similar to this in Delta.
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Not huge news but they've announced some Delta diecast miniatures to be released in April. This does confirm Hayate's VF is a VF-31J model at least.
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>>13789630
>>13789667
They already introduced Idols and dropped the whole serious approach of the series back in Frontier though, so I don't know why the fuck people are complaining now.
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>>13789745
>dropped the whole serious approach of the series back in Frontier
My bad, I forgot 7 existed. So yeah, I don't know why the fuck are complaining anymore.
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>>13789745
>and dropped the whole serious approach of the series back in Frontier though
>back in Frontier
Macross was silly since the beginning and Frontier actually had a lot of serious moments and got pretty bloody at times.
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>>13789757
So did 7. That didn't stop the main premise and feeling of those shows to be silly as fuck. On the other hand SDFM only had some silly moments, while the overall thing had a serious tone to it. Not the same.
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What I want to know is if there will be a Konig Monster? The one in Frontier was amazing.
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>>13789660
Having watched Angel Cop, I thought he was just too kooky and edgy
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>>13789637
maybe because it's now CG
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>>13789630
>I have no idea why it's hated on so hard.
Follows the same missteps of all modern anime in that it tries to applease everyone while at the same time appearing shallow and bland as a result. CG and character designs look like garbage and the people who keep saying 89% are delusional if they believe there's gonna be a huge difference in quality when its completed. The idol group bullshit doesn't phase me since Macross has longed stopped trying to be engaging and opted for bombastity instead so it'll probably just be as much fluff as they were in Frontier. The better question would be why people are needlessly defending it when there was nothing impressive about the preview and the plot synopsis itself doesn't sound interesting at all. I guess it had not dawned on me that by the time it airs there's gonna be no new mecha anime outside the Gundam OVAs to look forward to.
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>>13790182
Itano worked on Expelled from Paradise
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>>13790196
maybe he's an idol hater like this guy >>13790194
and half of /m/
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>>13790194
This 100%. Macross is dead.
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>>13790218
>I only watched Robotech
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I am 30 episodes into 7 and so far the series has been nothing but escalating insanity. Nothing in Delta's preview has even come close to 7 yet in terms of crazy. On another note, I think more than anything 7 is the series that had the biggest effect on the franchise more than SDF. If SDF was the original foundation and DYRL was the moneymaker, 7 is definitely "that one series" that changed the entire mood of the franchise, I mean I'm assuming it was really popular considering all the extra post-show stuff it got and how well-known Fire Bomber is in Japan unless I'm completely wrong about this

>>13790218
>Not fucking them
Max and Millia fucking was one of the most important parts SDF anon
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>>13789568
They can't literally do the same culture shock thing again as a whole series. That was done to complete perfection in SDF, hell taken to a complete extreme in DYRL, with the Zentraedi to the point that literally any other attempt at doing the same kind of thing would be a complete rehash or not nearly as good.

>>13789667
There's way more boys than grills anyway
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>>13790246
>to the point that literally any other attempt at doing the same kind of thing would be a complete rehash
And yet that's exactly what >>13790194 wants. He should honestly go watch Robotech.
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>>13790194
>>13790218
I sense much butthurt. You guys are probably the type of people who don't like happy endings and like all your media to dark and depressing, because apparently your miserable lives spent whining about how nothing's good anymore aren't miserable enough. Go become millionaires and animate your own shows if you're that pissed off.
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>>13790230
>max and milia fucking was one of the most important parts of SDF anon
Thats what Roy is talking about in that image anon
He couldnt know about frontier or 7 antics due to getting pineappled
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>>13785873
Same here anon, and to think I didn't like it at first.
>>13785890
It's OK anon, maybe sometime in the future you will find something you'll like too.
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>>13790194
>character designs look like garbage
Yeah that's what you think. Other people.
>needlessly defending it
I liked it anon, that's why I defend it.
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>>13790422
But their safe spaces!
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>>13790475
Roy got pineappled before the rainbow road wedding? Anyway Roy's a dumbass. Why would you listen to him
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>>13790533
This. The retard got shot up by some random enemy fire and didn't even go to the hospital. Some "ace".
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>>13790218
>memecenter
ebin m8 simply ebin
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>>13790542
But dat salad doe
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>>13789630
Same reason G-Reco is hated on so hard.
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>>13790982
Greco was a clusterfuck, even Tomino acknowledged it and apologized for it
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>>13791033
[citation needed]
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>>13790230
I had never thought about 7 (which I watched earlier last year in preparation for Delta) that way but it being the franchise's game changer makes sense.
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>>13791087
It makes so much sense. SDF and DYRL start the "play pop song over the final battle" thing but 7 is the one that has it every episode that it becomes iconic. DYRL introduces the songs being magic but 7 is the one that literally has visible music effect beams. SDF has the idol Minmei be a major seller for CDs and music but Fire Bomber is the band that became famous both in-character and with the actual singers in real life.

SDF sewed the seeds of the Zentraedi becoming main protagonist characters, 7 actually has them as main characters and now literally every season needs a Zentraedi or half-Zentraedi (though technically Plus did this first, 7 has a lot more)
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>>13791085
I've seen that claim so many times, but without proof.
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>>13791166
That's because it doesn't exist. Here's a real proof of what Tomino said:

https://nekketsunikki.wordpress.com/2015/08/27/tomino-said-g-reco-takes-place-around-500-years-after-turn-a/
>Tomino thinks G Reco failed because it didn’t become as popular as AKB48. (That’s a bad way of gauging things. Maybe he doesn’t know that their sales are so high because some people buy 50 copies or more of the same single.)
>“I think I failed raising G Reco. It doesn’t align with my ideals. I’m sorry.” (In Nolife’s interview he said the same thing)
>“Gundam shows made by other people are crap, including Origin.”
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>>13791189
>>13791166
>>13791085
here you brain dead shitters
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=tomino+apologizes+for+reconguista
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>>13791214
>source: google search
You're not very smart, are you anon? Post a link to a website and then we'll talk.
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>>13790278
>>13790422
>>13790208
I love how neither of them said anything about hating the idol aspect yet you jump on them stating that if you're saying it sucks in Delta it sucks in previous installments when its been stated many many times why people love SDF portrayal of music over the bullshit which started with 7.
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>>13791220
you must be super retarded, huh
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>>13791288
>neither of them said anything about hating the idol aspect
only that it's been said a 1000 times by the idiotic haters, they don't need to say it at this point
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>>13791295
>says the guy that can't even post a proper source
Come on anon, just post an ANN link so I can laugh at you even more.
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>>13790208
>Not l liking Delta means you hate idols
>>13790229
>Not liking Delta means you like Robotech
>>13790278
>Not liking Delta means you want a rehash

Yep I think that's about all the memes for now. You Deltafags are gonna get eaten alive if this is the best you can do.
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>>13791189
>“I think I failed raising G Reco. It doesn’t align with my ideals. I’m sorry.”
So Tomino talks like his dialog? I'm not entirely sure what he means here. How does one "raise" an anime? Does he mean promotion? How the anime turned out? Well he is a apologizing, so I'll give >>13791033
that. But I'm not entirely sure what he's apologizing for.
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>>13790278
The biggest irony is that Delta is just rehash in itself. The franchise has been doing the same shit for 20 years now.
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>>13791320
You don't even know what he's apologizing for you idiot.
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>>13790524
So....pretty much nothing. Gotcha
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since some people are too stupid
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2015-04-24/yoshiyuki-tomino-admits-story-problems-in-gundam-reconguista/.87449
http://www.afachan.asia/2015/04/anime-yoshiyuki-tomino-finally-admits-gundam-reconguista-g-problems/
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>>13791370
>ANN
>source yaraon

You actually fell for it.
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>>13791378
Well most G-Reco haters can only retort with these sources.
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>>13789667

i dont mind idols they have no place in actual combat let alone doing magical girl type shit and then there's having valkyries dance wtf
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>member of idol group
>have boyfriend

nips gonna hate it
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>>13791609
I don't think Kawamori will be the least bit concerned about that in the slightest.
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>all this concentrated autism on both sides
Jesus, and I thought the Gundam fanbase was the posterboy for retardism.
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>>13791609
They already do
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>>13791658
proofs
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>>13791316
Well considering all complaints from people like you all boil down to, "wah it has idols, it's not like muh glorious SDF and Plus" all of which stated by Robotechfags, of course people will automatically assume you to be a robotechfag when you talk like one.
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>>13791609
Well considering that this is Macross idols having boyfriends should be expected.
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>>13791888
This time it's a group of idols, not just one of them.

If such girl is catch on photo with some guy her career is over in Japan.
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>>13789630
The amount of idols really.

>Two idols
>Ok
>Five idols
>Way too fucking much
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>>13792123
But there's like at minimum two guys to each girl.

>>13792011
Except this is still Macross. This isn't the franchise for purity, that was AKB0048
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>>13792011
Well it's a good thing they aren't in Japan then
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>>13792123
>Two idols
Way too fucking much
>Five idols who fight
Ok
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>>13789630
Hey, fuck you. Freyja is pretty cute.
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>>13792761
She's kinda meh. Compared to mikumo at least
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>>13792766
She an Mikumo represent different aspects of feminine charm.
Freyja is the cute genki girl from next door.
Mikumo is the beautiful and unapproachable diva.

Mirage is the neurotic overachiever that is a pain to be around.
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>>13792834
>Mirage is the neurotic overachiever that is a pain to be around.
Oh boy are we doing this already? Cause I really hope we are!

If you can't understand the obvious character development she will go through that's on you. I mean at least she's a hard case cause she's a military pilot which makes sense. There's nothing wrong with being an overachiever as long as the show doesn't think its some kind of overly positive thing which they didn't do. Also she apologized which means she doesn't think all that amzingly of herself
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>>13792860
>implying the fucboi won't give her the piloting skills after which she becomes irrelevant
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>>13784604
You, Ranka fags, are pathetic.
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>>13789667
>"ew it has idol girls"
So you want idol boys, you faggot?
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>>13793267
S E K K O B O Y S
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>>13793267
I'd watch a boy band Mack Ross.
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>>13791449
>wtf
You have to be over 18 to post here.
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>>13792834
>>13793163
>Mirage is the neurotic overachiever that is a pain to be around.
Well, well. It's our resident Mirage shitposter. Look here faggot, we know how much you hate Mirage but try not to pretend you know what going on with her at this point. We barely know anything about her character and story and you're pulling some unwarranted shit out of your ass.
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>>13793267
I'd rather idol boys who are the robots instead.
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>>13791880
>anyone who likes SDF and Plus are Robotechfags

Oh look a new one.
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>>13793472
What the fuck is with his face
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>>13793490
Its called shading
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>>13793472
Considering all your complaints amount to is "wah this isn't like Plus or Zero", it's a pretty apt description.
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>>13782396
>A Quarter
This is shit. Why can't we get full-sized Macrosses?
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>>13793576
Considering he likes Thunderbolt which is another OYW side story OVA rehash then the implication he wants another SDF is pretty spot on.
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>>13783813
>>13783809
Is it just me, or are these NOT just shitty CG recolors? The bridge modules look different, and the yellow one has more guns on the shoulders.
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>>13793580
Calm down, anon. It was just a preview and there will probably be large sized class Macrosses.
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>>13793580
>a small squad for some backwater system
>even having the money for a macross
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>>13793580
Because full-sized Macrosses are for protecting immigration fleets. Do you see an immigration fleet anywhere in the setting?
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>>13793576
Not once has he or anyone said Delta is bad because its not Plus or Zero its just that you Deltafags can only respond using strawman.

>>13793587
He didn't say he liked Thunderbolt either.
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I just think it's a little presumptuous to say the show is bad, based on a single preview episode.
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>>13793692
wow, you can stop being reasonable right now.
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>>13793692
I just think it's a little presumptuous to say the show is good, based on a single preview episode and then to insinuate that everyone who hates it is not a Macross fan.
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>>13793692
This is the new /m/, brah. You're not allowed to judiciously reserve your verdict pending completion of a series anymore, you have to troll everybody by claiming that the entire series is going to be good or bad based on minor inconsequential details.
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>>13793267
I wouldn't mind really, although idol girls is cool too
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>>13793507
Why are his eyes so far apart?
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>>13793744
Uguu
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>>13793802
>still no fanart of mirage
tfw
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>>13793808
I just found some actually and it's the only one I could find.
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>>13793812
There was another one but wasn't colored.
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>>13793580
Because priorities.

Immigration fleets naturally get a Macross.
A planet, maybe a Macross as the flagship of the defence fleet, after they developed the place, of course.
But the galactic equivalent of rural areas don't usually get them.

Its like giving a fishing village a battleship to defend themselves from bandits.
Giving a Quarter to them would make more sense and its naturally easier to get a smaller ship than a full Macross.
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>>13793580
Because the galactic equivalent of rural areas don't necessarily need a full Macross? Besides, the Walkure, a single squad don't need a full Macross.
Immigration fleets at least have the excuse that they don't know whats out there and having a Macross around to boost their firepower if needed is a good idea.
If there is indeed a proper Macross there, you can be very sure that its very likely to be the flagship of the planet's defence fleet, not the mothership of the Walkure.

Macross-verse have perfected the art of mass-production, but shitting out Macross-sized capital ships is still something they don't do for good reason, the Macross-sized ships(Macross, Battle-class) are their equivalent of battleships.
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wait, aren't macross quarters a specially developed and highly advanced "pocket battleship" class of warship solely for SMS use?

I guess a quarter is fine for a elite mobile squadron, but even a fishing village or rural area would really only get a uraga or saratoga class carrier
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>>13792860
>obvious character development
It's actually kind of funny how predictable stuff like this can become if you watch enough anime/TV.

Lets hope they surprise us with something new and do something totally different.
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>>13794955
>doubting the mori
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>>13794885
>specially developed and highly advanced "pocket battleship" class of warship
It'll most probably still be cheaper to send one of those than to send a full Macross. How many confirmed Macross-sized do they have?

The ending of Frontier's movie had quite a number of Quarters appearing to help.

There's like at least 55 colony fleets out there with their own Macross-sized capital ship, take away a few in cases like Battle 7 that got destroyed. Then add about 12 SDFN-class ships that weren't part of full colony fleets.
Maybe about 60-70 full Macross-sized warships?

It's probably cheaper, easier and faster to build a Quarter and give it to them if they really need the firepower of a ship bearing the name "Macross" than to let them wait till a full Macross is constructed and sent over.
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>>13793267
>So you want idol boys, you faggot?
>He thinks this isn't going to happen
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>>13794955
>Lets hope they surprise us with something new and do something totally different.
What difference is there though? You can't have a character be an overly stoic hard case all series though I can't even say if that's 100% her character since she only is in the first episode for a few minutes before she starts piloting
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>>13793680
>Do you see an immigration fleet anywhere in the setting?
Actually, Hayate mentions a colony fleet. When questioning Freyja, he asks her what planet she's from, or if she's from the colony fleet.
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>>13794221
In order to colonize the planet you need to send a fleet there, so every planet should have a Macross type ship of some kind themselves.
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>>13792011
I don't think Kawamori believes in that purity bullshit. This isn't AKB.
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>>13793685
Considering that anon agreed with >>13790194
calling him an SDF/Plus fag is pretty much an educated guess. Especially if you've been around in more than one Macross thread.
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>>13795303
Unless a colony chose to colonize multiple planets.
With a big enough fleet, you could do it.
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>>13795400
Don't most fleets have a population problem though?
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>>13796436
Most, not all, I guess.
Or rather, I suppose it's possible that one planet could be colonized, and then in a few decades the fleet could move on and colonize another one.
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>>13783910
The major difference is that Frontier's dwindling population and resources made Leon's suicide charge toward the Vajra's planet seem like a great plan.

They kept on manufacturing MDE weapons and presumably valkyries meanwhile all the civilians were on half and quarter (lol) rations. Defense was their top priority. Though the loss of life in the Vajra Queen's counterattack always makes me sad. Or how that squad of VF-171 pilots got murderized by Ghosts with no chance of fighting back.
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>>13796961
>The major difference is that Frontier's dwindling population and resources made Leon's suicide charge toward the Vajra's planet seem like a great plan.
Politics!
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>>13796961
More like their only option. The Vajra planet was really Frontier's last hope. The only silver lining that they have population wise is that a portion of the Galaxy's fleet is still alive, since the people were just put into suspended animation so that the Kabal could use their resources.
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Urgh now even I have Ikenai BORDERLINE in my head.
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>>13797122
GIRI
GIRI
AI
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>>13796436
They do but that's because people really want to have children and get angry when you infringe on their right to do so. Other than mandatory implanted contraceptives, there's not much you can do to stop them.
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>>13797122
I get the feeling I'm going to be the only person who likes that very first song we hear from Walkure, the one that Freyja is singing along to in the container, whenever we hear it in full.

It's like how nobody seems to love Minmei's Zero-G love the most either.
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>>13797268
>It's like how nobody seems to love Minmei's Zero-G love the most either.
Those people have never hear Sugita and Kikuko Inoue's cover of it, never gets old.
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>>13792011
It's Macross, every girl would have a boyfriend. Kawamori isn't interested in purity nonsense that otaku loves.
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>>13797122
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>>13790157
hopes and dreams
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>>13797328
If the Frontier interviews are any indication, Kawamori would be down for them having multiple boyfriends. Monogamy is a construct of society, man...
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>>13797333
>>13797133
Jezus I can actually hear it when watching that.
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>>13797514
https://soundcloud.com/eusoul/ikenai-borderline-valkyrie-macross-delta
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>>13797328
except Ranka and Sharon
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>>13797413
That interview was a mistranslation.
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>>13793589
Yellow has more guns on its legs too.

It's like a beltanzipper Macross Quarter, only with cannons.
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>>13784680
Mylene.
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>>13797077
Where was this said?

I still really want to know what happened with the Galaxy colony ship. I mean, they show it off, and never show it again. All we get to see is Battle Galaxy get BTFO.
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>>13785933
Cloning tech is readily avaiable in the Macross universe, IIRC. That's part of how they managed to get human numbers back up so quickly. Or at least, Zentradi half-breeds from a cloned zent/met
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>>13786506
There's a lot more room in Japan than people assume, the problem is that it gravitates around large cities like you said, so smaller cities and towns are emptying pretty fast. If you're getting a regular train between places, you'll see plenty of unused flatland, but there's probably some bureacracy that prevents it being used, in addition to what I've said about urban centres.

Japan's biggest problem is the fact that people tend not to die that quickly unless they off themselves. It adds pressure onto the younger generations since they have more old fucks to care for. They're either going to have to keep their oldies working for longer, use more robots or the next generation or two is going to get buttfucked hard.by having to support the country and the elderly.

It'll even itself out, eventually.
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I was on the fence on whether Mirage would really be in the main triangle but now I'm realizing that ever since Plus, there has to be someone with Zentraedi blood in there (except Zero because obvious reasons). Even 30 has one.

Well, Mirage was obviously best girl to begin with
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>>13793680
Windemere had a colony fleet. They show it at the very start of the first episode.

>>13797911
>Mirage vs Freya
I can only hope
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>>13792385
>But there's like at minimum two guys to each girl.
>liking dp
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>>13797911
>Mirage
>best
You better Ikenai that Borderline before someone gets hurt, anon.
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>>13798053
As long as the balls don't touch it isn't gay.
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>>13798053
I meant in terms of male:female ration and character count, not that.

Jeez, lewd
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>>13798075
Im sure some of them are queers anon
Not to mention chuck is going to get pineappled
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>>13797879
By Kawamori post production, the real Galaxy isn't gone.
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>>13798501
Yeah I'm pretty sure pink and green are lesbians
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>>13798686
>green
>lesbian
>implying Chuck isn't tapping that
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>>13798686
How can they be lesbians if green is a boy?
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>>13792385
0048 portrayed the whole having-boyfriends thing as a self-sacrifice thing.
>I will offer you these tears
>So you can shine even brighter
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>>13798817
That's because the actual group can't have boyfriends, doesn't mean that Kawamori agrees with it.
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>>13798839
So how do they like... I dunno, deal with basic human urges? Pills or something?
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>>13798842
They are pure you fool
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>>13798842
Idols fuck idols
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>>13798817
I felt that 0048 handled that subplot in a surprisingly tasteful manner. But then, it was a part of the finale arc of S1, so of course it was good. That whole arc was excellent all around.
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>>13798756
>implying Chuck isn't tapping that
>implying he is
>Implying his character won't be trying to get in Reirei's pants all series but she's too stoic to realize
>Implying he won't die
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>>13798853
The subplot with Mamoru and Yuuka was handled pretty well.
The parts involving what the others think of the girls joining 0048 was nice overall.
>Nagisa's dad decides that they are on different paths, but they are still family
>Mamoru understands that he can't be with Yuuka if she wants to chase after her dream, and thus he steps back to support her and her dream
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>>13798842
Constant masturbation.
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>>13797825
AI's can't have boyfriends.
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>>13799682
Rude
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>>13798842
I'm sure cowtits gets off from maintaining the VFs
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>>13782308
I keep seeing the thumbnail in the catalogue and for a moment i think oh great a lagrange thread.
i keep being met with disappointment
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>>13793267
Do you even ドラゴン・シュレイヤー, you huge faggot?
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>>13798842
In reality they probably do have boyfriends but are just really discreet about it, don't tell Otaku that though.

Kawamori though seems to think that such expectations are bullshit.
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>>13797911
I want Zentradi apologists to leave.
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>>13799951
>Get in the car, we're going DORAGON SUREIING"

>>13799982
>Implying Zentraedis are not consistently the best characters except Guld
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>>13799991
>Zentradi
>the best character
Not in any Macross so far. That title has consistently gone to humans.
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>>13800007
Britai was my favorite character in SDF
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Did Macrosss Zero or Macross Plus have a Macross?
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>>13800007
Klan Klan would have been the best character in Frontier if it wasn't for her gimmick.
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>>13800785
Plus only had THE Macross
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>>13800785
Did you not watch Plus? It's a pretty big setpiece there.
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>>13800795
>He doesn't appreciate both S and XXXL sizes
Okay weirdo
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>>13800795
Klan was nice, but she honestly wasn't particularly interesting on the character front. Sheryl was by far the most developed and interesting character in Frontier.
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>>13800785
Zero has no Macross.
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>>13801609

It kind of appeared in Shin's flashback. Y'know, as the ASS-1 instead of the SDF-1.
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>>13802270
Kawamori came really close to giving a Valkyrie actual dedicated elevators.
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>>13802270
Is it really a good idea to slap weapons so near the engines?
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>>13803606
Why would they need them with y axis thrust vectoring? Also canards take their place and those are very common in his designs.
>>13804057
I don't see why there would be a problem with it, where do you think planes with internal storage keep their missiles? Modern explosives require specific conditions to cause an explosion, you can light a brick of c4 on fire and it won't blow up.
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>>13804057
Look at the pictures of the internals of the gunpods.

Those things are covered in ammunition.
The heat isn't exactly a problem.
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>>13804057
Most modern explosives are caused by a chemical reaction. The fuses used aren't fuses in the sense of "hey fire" but fuses that release a reagent to make everything go boom.
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>>13804152
No, they respond only to detonation, you need a small quantity of another explosive that can be triggered easily by some other means to set them off
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>>13798673
Oh, coolio. Shame that was never expanded upon. It'd be cool to see if they're still industrial powerhouses, post Frontier.
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>>13798902
I hope he does. I already hate his character. Finding out he was some kind of fishperson just sweetened the deal.
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>>13801010
That probably has to do with one being a main character and one being a side character.
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>>13805265
What's wrong with fishpeople?
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>>13805265
Racist fuck.
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>>13805265
Watch out we got a badass xenophobe over here
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It seems like the Knights are getting their own manga. To be serialized on the Comic Zero Sum, aimed at a female demographic, starting on their June issue (which I think comes out in late April).
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>>13808711
Messer's VF at the left I presume?
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>>13809285
That's the YF-30 from Macross 30.
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