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>How to get into KR and where to start?
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>Kamen Rider Ghost Episode 15 Preview
Necrom is confirmed to be Aran, he will appear this week.
So who you gonna main?
I was going to make a ghostbusters reference, but
I didn't have any pictures of Necrom
>Reposting for further discussion.
I don't know if anyone has talked about this yet, but there are kind of heady implications behind Shinnosuke publicly being Drive.
In the world of Kamen Rider, the Kamen Riders themselves are thought of as myths or legends by most people. They're a secretive thing that only select people know of anymore. In Fourze, Tomoko makes it clear that most people think Kamen Riders are urban legends. But in Drive we not only have a person publicly come forward as the current Kamen Rider, but a genuine badge carrying officer of the police force.
Now, I know they can't really get too far into heavy things like this in a kids show, but can you imagine what kind of impact that would have on people? That's like if you woke up one morning to the news that Batman is real and was discovered while saving a puppy.
This same issue was also present in Fourze though to a lesser degree. While it wasn't exactly publicized, nearly everyone in school knew that Gentarou was Fourze, it wasn't a secret. He basically said to everyone "Yes, superheroes are not only real, but will protect you from bullies and drugs and attend your birthday party". This isn't like the Shonen Kamen Rider club from the 70's, where people could just brush it off as kids being kids, this is verifiable proof of the existence of superheroes.
If you think about it, this kind of lines up with the established timeline. In the Fourze/Wizard movie, we learn that five years later Gentarou is not only still Fourze, but that all of his students and coworkers know it. A little less than five actual years later, Shinnosuke publicly reveals the existence of Kamen Riders, solidifying people's faith in Riders as warriors of justice. Meaning that Gentarou publicly being Fourze was partially made acceptable by Shinnosuke publicly being Drive.
>In the world of Kamen Rider, the Kamen Riders themselves are thought of as myths or legends by most people.
Only that's fucking stupid because Riders were public figures as far back as the original series (where literal stage shows exist) and as recent as Double where the Riders were cheered by the people of Futo. Fourze introduced this idea and then dropped it anyway right afterwards.
I hope you realize the rest of this thread will be everyone pointing out every instance where Riders were recognized by the general public.
It's one of those things where yeah some people are aware they exist, others think it's BS, and others are completely oblivious to it.
It's like if you hear stories of a guy fighting monsters in Nowhere, Kansas you're going to be one of the three even with the internet.
>You know...Tomari, the car you drive looks a lot like the one Kamen Rider drives.
>WHAT NO IT DOESN'T NO ONE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT KAMEN RIDER DRIVE
>Tomari chill, I just think it's weird
Kamen Riders don't fight in Nowhere, Kansas though
They fight in broad daylight in the middle of Tokyo or some other metropolitan area where hundreds of people could very easily see them blowing shit up, fighting inhuman beasts and sacrificing countless innocent plastic furniture sets
Pretty much the entire local police force knew that Godai was Kuuga by the end of the series. I think they also released a statement to the public about Number 4 being on their side.
That honestly doesn't seem to be the case in most of the series. Off the top of my head:
- Kuuga's existence was widely known (though as mentioned above, the general public didn't know it was Godai)
- Ryuki's riders weren't known to those outside the rider battle. Actually, I don't think the people in Ryuki even knew about Kamen Riders at all.
- Blade was part of an organization and "Kamen Rider" was an actual paying job. Similarly to Ryuki, I don't think most people were aware of Kamen Riders at all, either.
- Hibiki was also part of an organization and his identity as an oni is technically supposed to be secret. I don't think the term "Kamen Rider" is ever mentioned in-series, though.
- Den-O's public doesn't seem to have any knowledge of Kamen Riders.
- W was given the name "Kamen Rider" by the people of Fuuto, and was considered something of an urban legend.
- OOO's public in general didn't seem to know about Kamen Riders. The only ones who did were probably the members of the Kougami Foundation, the Greeed, and people like Hina who were directly involved with OOO.
And of course, in crossovers, everyone's heard of Kamen Riders.
>OOO's public in general didn't seem to know about Kamen Riders. The only ones who did were probably the members of the Kougami Foundation, the Greeed, and people like Hina who were directly involved with OOO.
I remember during the first half of OOO somebody discussed rumors about the Greed, and near the end people were absolutely baffled at the Yummy telling them to call for OOO.
>Only that's fucking stupid because Riders were public figures
I wouldn't say "public figures" because that makes it sound like they were politicians or something. For the most part Showa Kamen Riders all start out as secret solders fighting their respective evil organizations. As the show goes on and said evil organizations up their schemes and attacks the Riders become more prominent in the public eye but still hidden. After their fighting is done they go back to being secret warriors because the Japan in show seems to forget all the monsters and alien attacks then go back to their normal lives.
Wizard, by far.
Excluding that, probably Den-O. The character dynamics were fucking great, but it really forgot about its plot for long stretches of time and it got frustrating towards the end.
Agito. It's good, don't get me wrong. But before I watched it was told the show was some kind of mind blowing masterpiece of drama; that I shouldn't dare watch it first because it'd ruin all other series for me. What a bunch of bullshit. I enjoyed it for the most part, but it's so far from the perfection some asshole told me it was.
>They fight in broad daylight in the middle of Tokyo
How many times have you seen Showa riders fight with a crowd? Very rarely. I think Rider 1 did fight in front of a camera at a wrestling show but that could easily be waved off as a stunt.
They don't always fight in big cities either. Anyway, the point I was making was if you had a super hero fighting somewhere else in the country it would be difficult for most people to swallow even with physical evidence. Nowhere, Kansas could a metropolitan area and even with a bunch of destructive fights it would be hard (at least in the Showa era) for people to believe.
Also whose to say there weren't cover ups.
>They fight in broad daylight in the middle of Tokyo or some other metropolitan area
I'm glad you said "or some other metropolitan area" because I don't think the show tapes in Tokyo much. Too expensive.
On top of that, there's already so much set up that can potentially develop into something REALLY great. I can't understand how people have kept saying "nothing has happened in Ghost; every episode is nothing but to toy commercial" when like five plot threads have already been sewn and continue to develop.
That's better than Drive could boast. At this point we were just like "What the fuck is the Roidmude motivation, even? Why is Krim keeping pointless fucking secrets that won't lead anywhere? And why the fuck are they pretending we don't know Chase is Proto Drive?"
there's plenty of instances of the monsters terrorizing crowds of civilians before the Riders show up
I'll go as far to say that most if not every Rider series ever made for the past 45 years has had at least one instance where the Rider is spotted by sizable number of adults, enough to be more than a dumbass rumor
Lookie at what I found...
I've also found Yoko and Terui's actor, with promises of Ichimichi Mao and nao nagasawa, according to IMBD
I kinda feel bad for Crisis. They just want to keep living. Kotaro goes to their damn planet and sees it has good people on it. By just killing every Crisis thing he finds he's condemning billions of people to die! That's not how justice works! Eiji would not be pleased.
Besides ghost, which I was super excited for, I'd have to say Wizard. I was hoping for more, but more than anything the series was just boring as hell. It sucks, because I really wanted to like it.
>tfw kirihiko and shotaro will never become the new double as kamen rider futo
It's a shame they made Rising the retail. Looks good though.
I think you're overthinking it a bit. It's kind of like if you saw some report on the news about a komodo dragon in the area eating small animals, and they dubbed it the [area] Chupacabra. It's not really a Chupacabra, but they call it that because it fits the M.O. of one, and it's a novel nickname.
Of course, I realize the analogy kind of falls apart in this example because Drive really IS a Kamen Rider, but I hope you get the idea.
Why does Bandai hate us so?
Something about the Ryuki helmet makes me read it as having a confused expression.
That carries over into early Dragon Knight, although Kit's opponents had a tendency to say confusing things.
>tfw Kiriko doesn't have those boobs irl
>yfw she has a rectangular body
Kiriko a cute
Paradox getting rocked harder than any monster in past five years was pretty great
That's why I like her best in the suits.
I like to imagine that Shin and Kiriko don't take their suits off to bang.
She also don't know how to smile. Until the last episode.
Reposting from last thead, Toki no Hana (Flower of Time) TV Version from Gaim in mp3 format in case anyone's interested
It's just necrom, he appears in the end of the movie for 2 seconds then never appears again, he doesn't say anything either.
Theres a fucking retarded scene in the movie where Kamen Rider Jun appears again; tries to defeat the bad guys: Dies and then it just jump cuts to a comedy scene completely ignoring the fact the bad guys were still fucking there.
Admittedly Chief meeting Sage was some good shit.
Remember, most of the mess in the present is all retconned out when they restore the past. It's basically a SHTGP thing, just the villains only have a large army in the altered timeline, rather than having conquered the world.
I can't believe they fucked up the cut of Gou's Rider Kick in Surprise Future. Changing places with the Roidmude in the middle of the kick.
Just finished this thing, it was fucking great. Drive is so strong in the character department, I hope we'll see a lot more of them in the next few years.
Does Kamen Rider ever do 10-year-afters?
SHF Captain Ghost when?
The bgm during this scene is phenomenal.
RX has a bad ending.
Just in time for another rider movie, I've finished my scrub of the Shin bluray. Enjoy, or something.
The ending scene was cute
It was a pretty okay movie. Sanjo's good at making a fun summer movie.
But jesus fuck that very last bit of CG, what the hell were they doing here?!
Original Suit, Sakurajima, Current Suit, Spring Movie?
Are you just completely ignorant but still need to open your mouth just to seem like you know what you're talking about? That didn't even nearly answer his question and you were wrong on top of it all.
It was especially weird coming after the sexy as fuck Rider Kick
It'd be nice if we get could get a good aligned movie Rider for Ghost's movie
I don't know why you had that prepared, but I'm proud of you Anon
>tfw you get banged by a roidmude
>Not from Korea so they can also get decent CG
Seriously say all you want about hte mech designs the actual CG is Garo-tier.
>tfw Chase never got to be modern Drive just once
>He never got to try out Type Wild and Technic
>tfw Chase never got to bang me
>What are the non-japanese tokus that are getting subbed?
Bime Satria Garuda had both seasons subbed.
Nigga I didn't make the game. Common sense would say because it's the 45th and they shelled out the cash to get Fujioka so they're using him to the full potential.
He's not a native English speaker so the wording is sometimes a bit of a mess, but he does fix errors and takes constructive criticism on his wordpress properly so there's that. There's one other group that subbed it but they're apparently TV-N tier.
Really the big, common problem I see with nonJapanese tokusatsu shows is that the sound designers seem to have no idea what they are doing. There are no sound effects at times where it seems like there should be. They sometimes terribly dub over normal human dialogue. In this case there is an echo over the dub that sounds like a side effect of shitty studio equipment or set up of equipment. Also terrible sound mixing. Like that scene where all the shop owners are outside and they all sound huddled together in a small room because the they didn't even bother to edit the audio to make to match the secene. Then of course sounds that inappropriately over power other sounds. I can forgive dated CGI effects if they had good quality sound to keep it engaging and immersive.
Also another problem of Armor Hero I find is their music selection. I mean now they at least have a tune that sounds like a super hero action show, but I don't feel the Chinese language can provide a good enough "kick" for stuff like rock and other action-y kinds of music. That ED this season, though. Love it. Maybe they should aim for rap OPs instead. Help differentiate from Rider a little more.
The designs are as strong as ever though, I will say. They actually made an effective, form-fitting, lever-pulling belt and great looking weapons, unlike another show airing this year...
Hopefully Skyrider will get a chance to shine after all these embarrassing years.
Pretty bad they included him but not Riderman though.
LITERALLY go back to Tumblr I guarantee you are fat woman
honestly fuck these faggots for shafting Riderman. you can make a whole goddamn game about him with those arm gimmicks, like Bionic Commando sort of thing. well fuck em his Figuart is GOAT just for rope arm.
You are still butthurt eh man, i mean me too i would like to have Riderman as a full character. Nonetheless i don't post every single kamen rider thread in every board the same post over and over again. Get over it faggot
I don't like his color scheme. His concept art was better
Wizard characters are relatively dull but they occasionally shine greatly and are interesting.
Faiz characters are locked in a perpetual chain of frustrating misunderstandings and games of deaf telephone, where literally 90% of the cast is an unlikeable dick.
It's not an entertaining unlikeable. It's fucking eye-rolling. Faiz is miles worse, no matter what you say about Wizard the very worst you can say is "it's bad." With Faiz, you have to keep saying "Why the fuck am I wasting my time with this?"
Well I'm talking about the main characters. Takumi is more likeable than Wizard.
Also I disagree "Fuck you for coming back to life, no body wants or likes you" is a hilarious way to start a show.
>So Wizard is the worst Rider right? I know the argument is between Faiz and Wizard in terms of series but in terms of character wizard is far worse
First sentence. Wizard is the worst rider
My apologies for misreading. Comparing the two actual characters, I'll concede to that.
The actual worst in total is Kouta, though. He's a dumb whiney bitch and nothing about him is entertaining. At least Haruto has a few good moments, Kouta is just retarded.
It's not that Faiz is bad, it's that Faiz is so up its own asshole in dorama that it comes out the other end.
And you're either down with people being super Japanese and not talking things out, or you're puking in your mouth due to the ham fisted writing.
How do you determine worst though? Most bland? Then Rider 1&2 and Wizard take it. Most outright unlikable? You could make a case for Tendou, every Rider in Ryuki, Decade and Kiva. Most badly written? You could say all of them.
>Gou and Chase never got to marry and have cyborg babies
Decade Wataru was half decent, Decade Takumi had no personality.
Kouta lost that teenage naivity about being a rider way too soon for him to have been good. The ptsd with takatora should've come in mid to end season not episode 4.
>90% of the cast are unlikable dicks.
Elaborate? Hardly anyone is a dick, I mean theres Kusaka and the smart brain folk ( even then J wasn't a complete dick. ) But how are Kiba, Yuka, Kaido, Mari and Keitaro dicks?
>Gou and Chase never got captured and whipped by Medic
They need to pull off what they set out to pull off well. Wizard tried to make a Tendou 2.0 who wasn't so much of an ass and failed so cosmically because Tendou's entire character is how much of an ass he is.
Only sympathetic character, throws it away for stupid reasons
Encouraged murdering hellbitch tendencies
The Human Punchline.
>Only sympathetic character, throws it away for stupid reasons.
He changed because every time he tried to trust a human he was backstabbed, one of his few friends was killed ontop of that.
Did some fucked up stuff at the start, but to be fair tries her best to change, not be a monster and on top of that the people who she killed were horrible people to her.
Horrible person who gradually becomes more and more human and kinder as the series goes on. Becomes a total bro.
For the most part hardly; when she was one it was because of genuinely justifiable reasons.
No argument, still he was likable. Although I did drastically prefer kotaro the milkmans character.
You can be a complete Heisei brat and consider 1 and 2 bad characters or whatever all you want but calling them bland is objectively false because every time they were on the screen it was a spectacle and absolute delight for your eyes and ears to behold. That's more than you could ever say for Wizard.
Why do I feel like you only just save and repost webms and have not actually watched the show? Hongo and Hayato are great characters, but they're not great for being a spectacle and an "absolute delight for your eyes and ears to behold." They're great because they're genuinely fleshed out and human characters. We've got Hongo's repeat musings and questions of his own humanity and Hayato's attempts to be as good a man as Hongo, but every effort he makes gets subverted. Hell, the one time he tried to make a fair gamble on who would go out of their way to fight Shocker, Hongo cheated him just so Hayato would be relegated to protecting humans.
I'm so glad we have an expert with us here to instruct us how 45 year old kid show characters are actually deep and nuanced.
Get a clue you cocksucker, I was talking from the perspective that you don't need to think they're great characters since that's a matter of taste and opinion but because in the end they're still simply entertaining to watch in action. How DEEP you think they are is fucking irrelevant because on the most basic level (ie the level your troglodyte brain operates on when the pretty lights flash) they action is absolutely not "bland."
>Those jumbo pancakes
Oh dear god.
The only elitist cunt here is you. The instant someone dared to call Rider 1 and 2 "bland" you immediately started calling them a brat and posted a very shitty webm. I love the show, but if you wanna show off a goddamn scene to them to show WHY Rider 1 and 2 are more than bland, use the fucking coin flip scene or the scene where Hayato and Hongo are helping out a crying kid.
You're a fucking faggot and you're the reason why no one wants to watch Showa shows: THey turn people into holier-than-thou cucks like you.
>YOUR WEBM WAS BAD BECAUSE IT WASN'T DEEP ENOUGH
My point, ONCE AGAIN since you seem to have comprehension difficulties, was that someone is perfectly entitled to dislike them as characters although I disagree but actually watching the action disqualifies them from being 'bland'.
You however are the one who keeps harping on about MUH DEPTH. If somebody thinks they're bland characters then the fucking coin flip bullshit isn't going to convince them otherwise, while some over the top action on the most basic level of entertainment value WILL make somebody think twice.
>THey turn people into holier-than-thou cucks like you.
Get some self awareness buddy.
>Rider 1 and 2 are bland
>NUH UH YOU HEISEI BRAT YOU'RE WRONG HERE HAVE THIS WEBM THAT DOES NOT INDICATE ANYTHING ABOUT EITHER CHARACTER'S CHARACTER OTHER THAN THEY FIGHT LIKE LITERALLY EVERY OTHER FUCKING KAMEN RIDER
>Why does it seem like you don't even know what you're talking about?
>OH LOOK THE RIDER EXPERT IS HERE, PLEASE SHOW ME HOW THE SHOW IS DEEP AND NUANCED OH NO YOU JUST WATCH PRETTY LIGHTS EVEN THOUGH YOU ACTUALLY EXPLAINED NARRATIVE DEPTH FOR THE CHARACTERS
>Calm the fuck down faggot
>OH YOU'RE SO BUTTHURT YOU ELITIST I CHEWED YOU OUT
You're so fucking autistic it hurts. Kill yourself.
it ain't /krg/ unless there is a pointless showa argument somewhere
I actually like Kouta, he reminds me a lot of Kenzaki in that he's dumber than a bag of hammers at times, but is willing to give up literally everything in order to make sure that his friends are safe and happy.
It's completely fucking perpendicular to your point, you fucking autistic retard. If you want to demonstrate why a character is interesting, you show them something that actually demonstrates their character, either through personality or dialogue.
If you wanted to show someone say, Kuuga's character, you'd show them the "Do you know what this is?" scene, or if you wanted to show someone Black's character you'd show them something like Kotaro flipping out over a candy wrapper.
But hey, what do you care, so long as bad guys are getting punched, who NEEDS character, right?
>Only ONE person per thread can talk to me! Only one!
Maybe it's several people who are tired of your shit, faggot. Ever considered that you're just annoying?
you are one mad as fuck Showa faggot, speak for yourself buddy. I watch Rider for action and if the costume is cool, that's how I get into the show, I deal with characterization later. I didn't sit through Kabuto because I thought Tendou was a good character and that's the last thing I would present to anyone in the show's favor
Can we just talk about great moments in kamen rider or something?
Remember that scene in OOO when Date, Eijji and Gotou were in bed together?
If you think posting something like this would convince literally anyone that they aren't bland you're kidding yourself. People don't get into Rider shows because of this.
Remember those times when Eiji screamed "SEIIIIIIYAAAAAAA!"?
I kinda miss those
Do Net Movies count?
But we're not talking about convincing people to watch shows. We're talking about showing why a character isn't "bland." It's kinda bland if you just sum up every Kamen Rider as "masked bug man who punches and throws and kicks things."
Your literal butthurt is astounding. Stuff like this isn't going to get anyone into a show. I made these to showcase these moments but it's plain fucking retarded to believe someone is gonna pick up a 45 year old show based on this sort of thing alone.
in that case I would still post scenes from the show to prove the action isn't bland or boring and how Tendou fights makes him unique and fun to watch why is Showa stuff somehow too good for this huh?
Why are you constantly acting like I'm talking about convincing people to watch shows? I don't give a fuck what you watch. I'm saying, and this should be really fucking easy to read, that if you want to demonstrate why a character in a show isn't bland, you need to be able to show that there's more to them than just fighting. Otherwise every Kamen Rider is the same and equally as boring/bland.
Or maybe you're just so butthurt you need to change the argument so you can pretend you're right.
only not every Rider fights the same. body language and fighting style tell you a shitload about the character. nobody else I can think of fights like Tendou. his mannerisms are unique to him. same with Double, Kuuga, etc. you're really just trying to portray Showa as these really deep and nuanced characters and Heisei as one-dimensional fags but it doesn't work that way buddy
>you're really just trying to portray Showa as these really deep and nuanced characters and Heisei as one-dimensional fags but it doesn't work that way buddy
Where? This is exactly what I fucking mean, you're changing the argument so you can pretend you're right.
With how you're acting, I can sum up any and every Kamen Rider as "Punches monsters doesn't afraid of anything" and therefore they're all the same and equally as bland.
Just fucking give up, you're not going anywhere with your retarded and misaimed argument. Go shitpost on /v/ or something.
>Oherwise every Kamen Rider is the same and equally as boring/bland.
Is the concept of fun fucking dead to you because your tastes are just so high-brow or what? Watching Decade kill a giant crab with music is entertaining regardless of context, people who know fuckall about Rider can enjoy it. Get your head out of your ass about dumbass kid shows. None of this shit is Ulysses.
Why not get your head out of your own ass? I like every show because I'm not a fag who needs to create arguments for or against either era. I'm just explaining you can't show everyone why a character isn't bland and only just show them punching bad guys. Every fucking hero in the past 60 years has done that. It's like saying "This couch is really nice" and then posting a picture of a floor.
>you're the reason why no one wants to watch Showa shows: THey turn people into holier-than-thou cucks like you.
pot, kettle, etc
>tfw you never know if you step in a ghost's shit
Man /krg/ really sucks today, hopefully the episode of Ghost tonight will give us something else to tal-
Oh right, it's still Friday.
There's plenty to talk about. There are a tonne of shows and films you can talk about, but nope.
Not even the latest episode gives any worthwhile discussion for longer than 30 minutes.
This place doesn't exist for Kamen Rider discussion. It exists so people can shitpost about Kamen Rider and Kamen Rider accessories.
>tfw a ghost can do lewd things to Akari
>Every fucking hero in the past 60 years has done that.
But not the same way.
How many times I gotta tell you this.
Kabuto does not fight like Kuuga does not fight like Decade does not fight like OOO etc etc etc
Somebody who knows fuckall about Rider watching Double fight might not like watching Hibiki fight, using your logic they should enjoy every Rider because in the end monsters are getting punched.
>using your logic they should enjoy every Rider because in the end monsters are getting punched.
That's the fucking logic I've been arguing against the entire goddamn time you retard. You don't even know what you're talking about by this point, just stop.
But people do wanna watch Showa especially given all the recent stuff. What they don't want is to be screeched at by some faggot who tells them they're not enjoying it the right way.
>holier-than-thou cucks like you.
We can talk about which eyecon we think is the best eyecon.
Well then you're not doing a very good job of it because you're implying every Rider action scene is dome the exact same way. Read what I'm telling you. Does Wizard fight like Ghost? Like Drive? Does Kuuga fight like Ryuki? Is someone who loves Double's fighting style gonna enjoy Amazon?
Yeah but the guy before him bitched out first though about him not enjoying the characters the 'right' way. I wasn't aware there was a Rider Quality Control that forced you to only enjoy them one way, friendo.
I'm going off of this logic: Using action as an example of characterization is a very poor decision, especially since several shows make points as to make the Rider form opposite the human form. For example, Miyauchi admitted in an interview during the airing of V3 that he intentionally fought differently out of suit than he did in-suit. Another example would be in Agito, where Shouichi is typically cheery and happy-go-lucky, but as soon as the action starts he never speaks and acts like a hunting dog, running straight for the Unknown to fight them.
If Kuuga had a secondary Rider, who and what Motif would it be?
>Motif would be a Hercules Beetle Ver. of Kuuga.
>Works with the Gurongi as a means of dealing with Kuuga while the Me Group continue their turn.
>Yeah but the guy before him bitched out first though about him not enjoying the characters the 'right' way
You mean like >>13782968 , the guy he was bitching out?
The moral of the story is the entire argument is retarded and so are both of them.
How many series have Net Movies? Or is actually a common thing? The W net series was great.
I'm the guy who initially called them bland back in >>13782844
Nothing posted here has changed my assessment and you both look like massive pretentious jackasses.
The first guy could've gone without the 'brat' statement but otherwise was just trying to say they were fun to watch. the other guy got mad about webms.
I dunno but it looks like Showa Bro #2 wants fun outlawed in here.
It's Kiva to Gaim, also from my experience the only shitty netmovies were fourzes, they had some interesting things here and there and fourze meeting previous riders was cool but everything else was boring as shit.
Fuck that, post ancient Chinese hero men.
that part of the conversation had clearly passed however
the dude said even if you think the old Riders were bland they were still fun to watch beat shit up which is a fact
it was the other guy who got fucking pissed about muh characters
>>it was the other guy who got fucking pissed about muh characters
The conversation started off from a butthurt retard who had to call someone a "Heisei brat" to convey his point.
can't handle the bantz m80? i'm heisei fan myself mostly but anyone who writes off the old shows wholesale I think deserves to get verbally jostled a bit
If you need to resort to petty insults to justify why someone does not appreciate a show, that fedora is perfect for you m8. Even then, he never implied he disliked V3, X, Amazon, Stronger, Skyrider, Super-1, Black, or RX. That's just your own butthurt coming to life.
*stands outside death fog shop wearing fashionable hats intensifies*
if they're petty insults they shouldn't bother you on 4chin of all places
stop being anti-fun ffs
>It's a Shotaro gains 300 pounds and overdoes it on the bong episode
Kiva, Decade, OOO (2 sets), Fourze and Wizard. Then there's also net movies for the 2 Super Hero Taisen movies. Those are the ones I know about anyway. They are all highly recommendable and very funny, usually better than the films they are for.
Oh right I was thinking of Chou no Masahiro, field of Butterflies.
Quick question: I lapsed on Drive and now that the BDs are up I wanna get back in to it.
At what point in the series do the various specials/movies/crossovers take place? I wanna watch em all but not get spoiled on story details/new forms/whatever.
Goemon's pretty great in my opinion, but my favorite is still Newton.
I would dig Benkei more, but his shoulders look too much like paper.
That webm is baller as fuck though nigger. It showed a time when Riders actually had bare knuckle throwdowns and got dirty and stuntmen who weren't afraid of being tossed down a fucking hill like a sack of potatoes in a claustrophobic prison they could barely see out of.
>and stuntmen who weren't afraid of being tossed down a fucking hill like a sack of potatoes in a claustrophobic prison they could barely see out of.
The Rider 1 and 2 helmets had some of the best vision of any Rider helmet, though. Have you seen how little Takaiwa can see in Decade's helmet? Shit's horrible.
>Have you seen how little Takaiwa can see in Decade's helmet? Shit's horrible.
I'm just surprised than anyone can see anything in a tokusatsu helmet, but then I've never actually worn a tokusatsu helmet so I can't really make a judgement about visibility.
The Episode 0 beat with Proto Drive can be watched any point before Mach shows up, or whenever really.
Drive/Gaim takes place in between 12/13 or so. Any point after Type Technic arrives and before Mach debuts is fine though.
Taisen GP isn't really canon because time travel nonsense so watch it whenever the commercials show up for it, then Rider 4 after the movie.
I don't remember when Surprise Future starts exactly, but I remember there were 4 1-minute shorts at the end of a few episodes as a lead-in to it, so after the fourth and final one of those watch Surprise Future.
And they Type SCU can be done around halfway, but doesn't necessarily have any defining point that it takes place. They do say it takes place in April so probably when you get to the episodes that came out in April.
>I don't remember when Surprise Future starts exactly, but I remember there were 4 1-minute shorts at the end of a few episodes as a lead-in to it, so after the fourth and final one of those watch Surprise Future.
They have a couple tie-in plot points to Surprise Future in the series itself. Much like Den-O's first movie, they pretty explicitly tell you GO WATCH OUR MOVIE around the right point.
Some of them can be. This one's just alright.
>Taisen GP isn't really canon because time travel nonsense so watch it whenever the commercials show up for it, then Rider 4 after the movie.
As far as Taisen GP goes, it basically goes:
Drive episode 22-> Ninninger vs Drive -> GP -> Rider 4 mini-series -> Drive episode 23
The actual special aired after Drive episode 23, but there was a delay there due to Ninninger missing one week due to some unforeseen event.
Daily reminder that Late Showa > Early Heisei > Early Showa
Everything else is utter drama garbage
You are literally saying that a single 2-episode story makes W worse than 50 episodes of dull nonsense.
>Black and Black
>The very best of Rider
Calm down, Brazil.
>I've never dropped any names, you're the ones cherry picking here :^)
What did you imply then by Early Heisei my dude
Faiz is literally the fourth Heisei Kamen Rider show, that's relatively aerly
>immediately jump to insult Faiz
When will this "Faiz is bad" meme die? It's wrong and stupid.
I'm just articulating my disdain for you, onii-chan.
"The exception that proves the rule" is an absolutely meaningless and idiotic phrase.
"Yeah this is a rule and then this thing here that makes no sense with this rule means that the rule holds true" Yeah sure.
Faiz is bad in any way that's not purely aesthetic, anon.
Most of the characters are unlikeable except for Takumi and Kiba, and while also being unlikeable they're also grossly incompetent and asocial but still for some reasno trust a guy who's always got a smile akin to a serial killer going on
The actual plot is entirely pointless, and not in an interesting style where they make a point that all they'er doing is futile, because they act like the Orphnochs are a dead race unless they revive the Orphnoch King, and then they're almost all entirely dead... except the Orphnoch King for reasons
Instead of trying to find interesting ways to play around with Takumi's upgrades, both proving to be detrimental to his health due to how they work, they just get in one case thrown at him by someone who in every other instant hated him and in another case was delivered to him in a case by MAIL
Instead of justifying the lack of appearances with the aforementioned 'Bad for your health' they just use both about five times total
Every villainous Orphnoch has such a fucking edgeboner they may as well all be wearing trenchcoats, fedoras, and katanas on their backs
Literally the only truly competent character too, in the entire fucking show, is AutoVajin. He doesn't cause or is harmed by misunderstandings, he doesn't die doing something he could have easily prevented, and he doesn't get involved in anything pointlessly edgy because "Inoue."
I don't think you understand what that phrase means.
If Faiz was indeed an exception from the typical Early Heisei style and resembled more like series that came after Decade that you brush off, then this phrase would be acceptable. However, Faiz's structure, cinematography, characterization and overall story are VERY different from Rider series in Heisei phase 2, and fit much more with the tone and style of early Heisei.
Hence, you are full of shit.
Guess what /krg/?
Every show has their high and low points, good and bad things, etc.
except for Faiz :^)
Every series you listed has good and bad points to them. I think we can all agree that Wizard is the worst of the list, but even then there are certain aspects that make it worth watching at least once.
OOO is better than W, though W has a few better 2-ep arcs than OOO.
I actually really liked Faiz when I first saw it. Kusaka pissed me off to no end and i wanted to see him bite it. But the 2nd time I watched it, as soon as Kusaka appeared I had to shut it down. I could do it the first time with the hope he would get exposed or get ruined or whatever but knowing how it turns out, how Kusaka becomes a hero capable of deserving my respect, i just couldn't watch him be that way again.
tfw ill never see faiz for the first time ever again
>The best of Kamen Rider
>OOO is better than W, though W has a few better 2-ep arcs than OOO.
I think the big failing of both series is that I never really took the villains all that seriously in either show. That being said, I enjoyed OOO more overall than W too.
I think the reason why I enjoyed Faiz and Wizard more than the next guy is because I watched them pretty early, so I wouldn't be as disappointed with them.
Faiz was the 3rd show I completed and Wizard was the 5th
I probably wouldn't enjoy Faiz as much as I did if I rewatched it
Faiz was actually my second series, I watched it pretty much straight after Kuuga (I skipped Ryuki because the little plot synopsis blurb I read didn't really interest me).
I think that's one of the reasons why it frustrated me so badly, I loved how the supporting cast in Kuuga came together to cooperate and interact with each other, and Faiz was pretty much the exact opposite of that.
>baww, somebody liked something I didn't !
>How can people be allowed to have other opinion than mine ?!
I watched it immediately after I finished Fourze, so I kinda had the same feeling. It was frustrating, but I ended up enjoying some of it. At least they went back and fixed the shitty ending it had with the Rider 4 series
I also liked and defended corny entertainment when a teenager, but grew out of it eventually. The same will happen to Heisei Phase 2 youngsters, don't worry.
>Showa fags murdering each other over who loves Showa the 'right' way because if you don't think the characters are the deepest shit since Crime and Punishment you're a philistine
>Heisei fags murdering each other over what Heisei even is
>gay faggots from outer space who just want to post gay shit all day
>Hue Hues masturbating in their mud-huts to Black and RX while thinking Kamen Rider started in 1987 and ended in 1989
yes yes, the fire rises
>/tv/ and pepe shitposting
Can we just all gang up on this asshole?
>try to give wizard a shot
Is gravity too comfy for you?
Set during Batman Reborn. Dick Grayson and Damian Wayne trace a new super-drug to Futo. Their team-up with Shotaro and Philip plays in parallel a flashback of a young Bruce training under Narumi.
While the Bat and Skull team up ends acrimoniously, Dickbat and Double part as friends, both determined not to make the same mistakes as their predecessor.
I'd watch a Fate/Stay Night crossover. Have Shirou be a Rider or something, HGW happens, canon Archer comes and goes "Oh fuck, he actually became a hero" and Shirou kicks his ass for giving up on justice
Kamen Rider x Masked Rider x Power Rangers x Super Sentai x Saban's Ninja Turtles x everything else that is Live Action feat. some shitty new mascot and all the toys you can want
(thanks, couldn't find it again)
If you can't at least appreciate the leopard-print shirt, I don't know what to tell you.
Because they had no hard details about the series or character nailed down at that point.
Ghost's appearance in the last couple episodes of Drive is much closer to how he actually acts in the show.
I don't dislike him, but it feels like the writers really don't know which direction to take him in. He's just kind of generic right now and needs some stronger character aspects other than the basic "wants to protect his friends" that every goddamn hero has.
I wonder what kind of ending would Ghost have.
A happy ending where everything ties up neatly and everyone(well,except for that one guy) prospered like Drive?
Or a downer ending like Wizard?
Or maybe it wouldn't even have a real ending and Takeru keep having 99 day resets?
Well, maybe it would end up like that fruit show with Takeru becoming god and replacing the god they have in the Ghost show.
I assume the one granting the wish after the 15 heroic eyecons are collected is god in that show.
>just started Wizard
>about 7 episodes in
>this is a loli romance isn't it?
Tell it to me true /krg/ how bad does the lolimancy get?
I bet that the ganma are demons from hell so there must also be angels from heaven.
Wherever Takeru went, the first time when he met Sage, and the second time when he met his dad before getting Boost, doesn't seem like the kind of place the ganma realm is.
I bet Fley from the legendary Rider special is an angel.
I'm guessing by the time Ghost ends the ganma would be cut off and segregated from human realm so there would be no point for Kamen Rider Ghost. Except for crossover movies. Takeru comes back to life and lives happily with the others. Can't guess if he would end up with anyone. For some reason I see Akari with Onari.