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Can I start the series at AC: Nexus and use the second disc as a recap of prior titles? I tried to play AC1 and it was kinda bad.
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Murakumo for life, Chrome a shit
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>>13775652
you could but nexus isn't exactly the greatest game, would probably be better to start at 2.
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>>13775652
AC3 & SL are basically reboots that follow an incredibly similar story line to AC1 but with better mechanics and a entirely new set of parts if thats your thing, most newer fans tend to gravitate towards anything from 3 on wards.
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>>13776092
>>13776203
AC2 is a good starting point, but I think AC3 is the better game. Problem is anything pre-Nexus will have you getting used to a rather archaic control scheme
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Heresy of the lot of you. Shame on you. Play them all and take off your mecha mini skirt
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The fact that we are getting a new Ace Combat that is more true to the original games instead of the retarded AH one makes me hopeful that From will stop being gigantic faggots and make a new AC game instead of eternal souls games
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>>13778197
From's head honcho has said that das3 is going to be the last souls game. Hopefully that means more ac or another mech game.
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DESTROY
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BALL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5vup40fUl4
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Is the Armored Core OVA worth watching?
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>>13778358
>Bloodborne 2
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Friend just sold me a PS3. Are any of the next-gen Armored Core's worth owning?

I heard V was multiplayer heavy, gonna bet the servers are already down.
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>>13778634
He actually included Bloodborne in that statement.
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>>13778652
4 and 4A are okay if you want to go fast. V/VD have shit singleplayer, only bother if you have buddies to play with. The first game's also on PSN, no PP or MoA yet though.

Slightly related, be sure to pick up Demon's Souls if you haven't already. It's one of the best games for the system and has a couple of 4A references to boot.
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What's the difference between the first game and Project Phantasma?
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>>13775652
>Can I start the series at AC: Nexus
Yes.

>>13776092
>you could but nexus isn't exactly the greatest game
It's a great starting point for people wanting older games but with normal camera controls.
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Silent Line master race. Nexus destroyed Armored Core.
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>>13778972
PP added a fuckton of new parts. So much so that it made the game unbalanced to some degree. This is because Kawamori joined the team and they used all his designs to make new parts.

Also they added a story featuring a voiced antagonist and a waifu with unique AC's.
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>>13778960
>V/VD have shit singleplayer, only bother if you have buddies to play with.
Guess I wasted my money then, damn.
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>>13779091
Not that anon but V/VD have solid single-players. Sure their shine the most in team based multiplayer but it's still worth a playthrough.
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>>13779097
VD's single player is alright, but V's was pretty tough to stomach.
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>>13779090
Also the series' first arena.
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>>13778960
>V/VD have shit singleplayer, only bother if you have buddies to play with
Does it have couch co-op?

>4 and 4A are okay if you want to go fast
I want to go fast. Which should I pick up?

>be sure to pick up Demon's Souls
Yeah I know, I loved the King's Field games
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>>13779206
>couch co-op
No
>Which should I pick up?
4A is arguably the better game and is sanic fast but 4 is cheap and short enough that I'd pick up both.
>I loved the King's Field games
Great taste
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>>13779339
Cool I'll get 4A for now. All my friends are casual so they won't ever play with me.

>Great taste
I know, right?
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>AC1
>Fighting Nine Ball for the first time
>Holy fucking shit he's so fast
>I'm outfitted with a laser cannon and shoulder gatlings for larger opponents
>Targeting computer can barely keep up with him
>Can hardly dodge his attacks at all
>Finally take him down
>Have double digit armor left
>Continue on
>Second Nine Ball appears
>Fucks me before I can even think

After that, I just dodged the first one by dropping straight down the hole.

The second one was a bit hairier because my thrusters couldn't carry me to the top without a large recharge time, but once I got up there, his AI struggled to make it up the hole. I positioned myself down the hallway and when he got up there I fired the gatling gun and took him down no problem.

Fuck that mission.
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Also, any reason to buy AC1 on PSN over emulating (with AA, filters etc)? Are they updated in any way?
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>>13779404
slight warning, 4 and 4A both have 'fuck your shit' missions.

4's is marche au supplice and 4A's is occupation of arteria carpals.

to be fair, events leading up to OoAC mean you kinda deserve the assrape you are about to experience.
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>>13779480
>you kinda deserve the assrape
Old King did nothing wrong.
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>>13779491
to be fair, it WAS a viable solution to the population/pollution issue.
plus, that sexy as fuck accent

pictured, someone who did everything wrong.
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>>13779491
I wish he had more lines in 4A. His voice is like gravy.

>Sorry friend, I can't help you any more. I'm glad we got to know each other better.
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>>13779504
>it is always too soon when your time is up
why does armored core have the best fucking voice actors?
>I LOVE EVERYONE
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>>13779513
"To treasure a life....is that something to laugh at?"


I love so much of the voice acting in those games because of how well it conveys character or mood with such minimal input.
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>>13779480
Eh, 4's is only tough on hard mode, and if you can reach 4A's then you should have the means to cheese it.
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Yeah i liked 4A's Lynx small talk alot. ACV was pretty bland aside from the crazy AI's.
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>>13779872
The worst part about V's voice acting was that it had two female operators that were virtually indistinguishable from one another for quite a while. At least chief was good. Him, and the one zodiac voiced by Troy Baker.

>"I guess you really did give up everything for the project Ange. Your body, your brain.....your soul.But hey, who needs a soul, right? As long as you *win*."
>"Damn it, this has to be some kind of sick joke! We turned ourselves into puppets for *THIS*?! I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER WHY!"

VD was a return to form though, Fatman and Maggie were great, especially since the later shared a VA with the best operator of all, Serene Haze.
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>>13779902
I never tried VD. ACV left me burned abit.

Though i heard the last boss is some kind of edgy supped up White Glint. That true?
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>>13779872
I like the part where Donald Trump stumps Lynx
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>>13779920
Yeah, I felt the same way about V. VD got be back into the series though. It polished a lot of V's issues (including balancing parts, making the main missions shorter and less tedious and the side missions longer and more varied and having an incoherent story). It also had heavily customizable AI controlled partners, the UNACs, the tweaking of which is a whole game in and of themselves.

>Though i heard the last boss is some kind of edgy supped up White Glint. That true?
Yes. Though even fighting a genuine NEXT in a regular AC is pretty cool to have.
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>>13779149
I actually like V's lengthy missions in single player mode than the usual short burst missions that ended in few seconds we got in other games
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>>13779983
They just dragged on and on. I replayed the early train mission on a friend's save, and was astonished at how much fire it took to wer it down, even with the best weapons available at the time, add to that it running in circles made for an extremely tedious experience. And only the main missions were long, the side ones had the opposite problem of throwing you against small numbers of the same three enemy types over and over for 40 motly interchangeable missions, with another 40 of arena fights and few zodiacs.

VD still had some decent length missions, just not 'travel to different map region in real time levels of length', and the side ones were varied enough to stay fresh, at least to me.
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>>13779474
Not really beyond the convenience of having it on your PS3, it's just direct emulation of the original game. The DS3 is great for classic AC though because of that glorious D-pad.
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>>13780027
I played Silent Line on Vita, and that game has so many left arm guns that I can't imagine doing it on a conventional AC playstation controller set up.
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>>13779955
>genuine NEXT

Really you go up agains a NEXT with just a Normal? Heh that actually sounds pretty interesting.
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Med Biped Karaswa Master race. All efficient and practical builds can go home.
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>>13780123
in order to win you have to ditch the tactical playstyle of V/VD and go FAST.

plus, fucker can only be injured with basic ballistic weapons after he uses assault armor

honestly an awesome fight.
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>mfw wrecking filthy Human PLUS users in VS Mode
If you can't git gud you don't deserve to call yourself a Raven.
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>>13780609
Looks like Rayleonard built a White Glint desu.

>Rayleonard were the real hero's of AC4.
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>>13780750
i think 4A's WG was based on the aliya.
mostly notably in head and core shape.
the funny thing is that N-WG is made out of omer and BFF scraps
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>>13779090
>This is because Kawamori joined the team
He was involved in the first game as well.
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really fucking sad we have no idea if a 6th game is even in the works... sigh. Fromsoft pls
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>>13780905
you'd have to complain to bandai at this point.
i just want more mech games
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>>13780965
Is the PS3 logo supposed to be one of those funky radar heads?
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Is multiplayer still active?
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>>13780841
>He was involved in the first game as well.
He wasn't.
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>>13781876
http://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2015/12/10/shoji-kawamori-the-creator-hollywood-copies-but-never-credits/
>“When the design for Armored Core was requested to me, it was before the original PlayStation was launched. There were quite a lot of unknowns and there were ideas for separate parts, such as arms, feet and weapons and so on. These then had to be combined by the player on their own.”

>“However, if you allow a player to create their own mecha it makes it very hard to give it a sense of visual identity. Such as clearly differentiating from other mecha anime and games. I also thought that other games would follow suit when this was released.”

>“As I believed that this idea should differentiate this game from the rest of its competition, I proposed the concept of the “armored cores”. Meaning that of the core block with cockpit and engine as well as the joint connectors for head, arm legs, weapons and so on. They adopted the proposal and called it Armored Core as a consequence.”
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I wish the model kits were all in the grey starting color and sold all of the weapon/option parts seperately... /tangent
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>>13781887
Well I'm an idiot.
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>>13782019
Welcome to the internet.

Tis a magical realm that makes everyone and everything seem dumber.
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>>13781887
Cool. So he basically defined the name of the series?
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>>13779491
Oh but he did, he was fucking useless in both missions, dying when anyone looked at him funny was bullshit, to this day I never managed to complete it with the fucker surviving
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>>13784136
Blade faster scrub.

If you do things right you can score two kills before the enemies cut OB, the "entering the map" sequences are scripted and the AI doesn't dodge worth shit during them.
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Is VD multiplayer on 360 completely dead? Considering buying gold just for VD, can you at least get free battles or random co-op going? Or is literally no one playing?
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>>13779090
So is there any reason to play the original?
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>>13785349
Nostalgia, or for the sake of playing through the entire series and seeing everything it has to offer.
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>>13785991
>that ending where you finally beat him fair and square and he admits this by sacrificing himself for you
Fav AC character right there.
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>>13785349
To experience the unadulterated classic Nineball rape like this anon nicely summarized >>13779405

In PP you fight some deranged Human+ prototype dude a few times and then his lobster form as the final boss.
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>>13785991
which game?
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what was the name of Nine Breaker's opening song?
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>>13787495
The Encounter World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHxAIZLVrQQ
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>>13787517
thanks buddy
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Playing AC1 right now, on the last mission
WHOEVER THOUGHT HAVING TO NAVIGATE A HUGE SHAFT USING TINY FLOATING, MOVING CUBES ONLY TO MEET NOT ONE BUT TWO FUCKING NINEBALLS SHOULD GO FUCK THEMSELVES UP THE ASSHOLE WITH A VERY SHARP SPEAR WHILE GIGANTIC NIGGER COCKS PLUG THEIR MOUTH AND EARS YES I'M MAD FUCK
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>>13788629
Welcome to FromSoft. Git gud.

But yeah, platforming in AC isn't a good idea.
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I'm playing Nexus for the first time, what should I expect/know?
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>>13787155

Last Raven Evangel.
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How can I play multiplayer in Last Raven Portable? I bought it on my Vita to play with my friend and I can't find the option.
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>>13788651
Don't overheat.
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>AC threads on /m/ are always more active and have more poster than the general on /vg/
where the fuck are you guys
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>>13790868
/vg/ is now mostly for online gatherings IIRC. Nice occasional lore discussion though. Some kind anon there translated a lot of 4/FA tidbits that got lost in localization.
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>>13779499
That logo makes me want to punch something.
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>>13791111
The rep for that company is such a smug, smarmy dick. It's great.
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>>13791127
>Motherwill briefing
>So there's this big ass flaw... *Ahem* As expected by BFF....

I like the GA rep, he's just like AIGHT BRUV KILL THIS DO THAT HAVE FUN KBYE
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>>13779405
This basically happened to me (same weapons even) but I somehow fought and beat Nineball no. 2. So intense, PS1 Armored Core is too good.
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>>13791139
I always imagined the GA rep with a loosened tie and a day or two's stubble. He seems pretty informal, probably in large part due to Patrick Seitz's delivery.

>Welp, that's about it

>Some bigshot at the BFF has drawn up the mission plan this time, so you'd better listen up

>So the plan says
>...
>It's not a *bad* plan...

>Basically, we just need ya to take it out fast, nothin' fancy

>aaaand that's about it. You could do worse, right? Let us know if you want the job
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>>13790868
>>13790999
>lore

This is what I hate about all vidya generals. It's just lorefaggotry and circlejerking. I wouldn't discuss AC anywhere but here
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>>13775644
>buy Four Answer when I'm 16 and stupid
>shelve because I can't into complex shit
>come back at 19
>love it
>S rank almost every mission on regular and hard
>join army
>replay it at friends house
>all skill evaporated since then

How do I get good at Four Answer? Even when I was at my peak my Sniper Cannon and Grenade mech would get trashed by nips.

I'm just playing casual now with friends, and the online is dead, but some high ceiling PVP would be fun.

Also are V, Verdict Day, and vanilla 4 worth getting? I just want to have fun again /m/.
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>>13793229
>>13793230
>>13793234
Bara Jack is love.
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>>13793107
>Even when I was at my peak my Sniper Cannon and Grenade mech would get trashed by nips.
I know that feel.
I always run into builds with an absurd amount of primal armor and my mech that would normally push everything's shit in is completely useless.
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>>13793441
I just couldn't hit them.

I had gotten decent at lining up sniper shots. I could even go through Occupation and White Glint on hard without missing a shot.

But against those super fast zippy mechs online I'd never make my shots. And then before I knew it my mid-weight mech was caught in a storm of vertical missiles.
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I've always been fond of Wynne D. Fanchion.

I liked a good intentioned character in For Answer.
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Front Mission fan here (please don't be rough), does Armored Core get much easier to control? I played the first game a while ago, and found myself only barely getting through some missions, without much improving.

I just want a nice story-filled mecha action game, but the closest I've gotten was Ace Combat.
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>>13794072
It takes a little bit to get used to the controls, but you'll be proficient by the time you have to fight anything that need you to look up and down during battle.

Or are you complaining about some other aspect of the controls?
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>>13794072
You can remap every function to your liking, but it really just takes getting used to. If you really can't adapt Nexus onwards supports analog control.
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>>13794098
>>13794108
It wasn't so much the up and down, but more like just not feeling as much in control. Would try to strafe attack someone but would still end up pretty damaged throughout any encounter I went through. I saw in the thread that 3 is like a remake of 1 or something, I'd have played 4 by now since a friend recommended it to me before, but I'd hate to miss out on any story bits.
Maybe it'd be best to just jump to PS2?
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Damn the next game if we even have one might be fucking insane, just think the last boss of VD was an AI in a scraped together NEXT. just imagine the shit that will happen if somehow hustler-one makes it into a NEXT. that is if the story keeps going the ways it is. sill make me all the more excited to see what happens next.
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>>13794145
>Would try to strafe attack someone but would still end up pretty damaged throughout any encounter I went through.
Boost while strafing

>I'd have played 4 by now since a friend recommended it to me before, but I'd hate to miss out on any story bits.
4 is a complete reboot story-wise
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>>13794145
>Would try to strafe attack someone but would still end up pretty damaged throughout any encounter I went through.
Not getting hit in AC is less about moving fast and more about never ever moving in a straight line for an extended period.

>I saw in the thread that 3 is like a remake of 1 or something, I'd have played 4 by now since a friend recommended it to me before, but I'd hate to miss out on any story bits.
There's three primary story arcs as such. The original AC through AC2AA, AC3 through Last Raven, and AC4 through Verdict Day. You can start at the beginning of any of them and not miss anything. Additionally, the links between the PS1 games and AC2/AC2AA and between AC4/4A and ACV/VD are weak enough that you can still enjoy the story just fine.
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>>13794256
If I recall, there is a possibility that VD leads into ac1
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>>13779902
V is wonderfully voice acted in nipnong though. The fact they screwed up Carol's robotic intonation in the dub will never cease to amaze me.
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>>13775644
How are armored core games after silent line?

Are psp ports worth playing if you got the ps2 isos?
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>>13795506
The PS2 AC games emulate poorly so you're better off playing the PSP versions. They have more parts anyway.
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>>13795605
>The PS2 AC
Apparently not anymore. With the latest update even the Nexus, NB and LR are playable.

>>13795506
I only recommend emulating the PSP versions if you're ready to fuck around in the controller settings.
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>>13795611
>Apparently not anymore. With the latest update even the Nexus, NB and LR are playable.
I don't believe you.
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>>13795707
Well I'm not too sure either. Heard it from /vg/ and /v/ but never tried it out.

That said Nexus/NB/LR are playable in software mode just fine http://wiki.pcsx2.net/index.php/Armored_Core:_Last_Raven. It requires a decent rig though.

AC games up to Nexus are much more easily emulated because of the simpler engine so I see no reason to play 3 and SL on the PPSSPP. Especially considering shittier visuals and controls. A bunny head and two extra arena opponents are not really that worth it.
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>>13794948
Oh? I liked Carol's English voice. She had a certain dry tone that complemented Chief well.

>"Sir, that was not the correct target. That was the chief of the city police."
>"Hahaha, ya don't say? Weeell whatever."
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>>13793107
I was a 4/For Answer player on 360 and loved playing online, it was my whole reason for buying into the scam that is Gold.
Of course since no one plays it any more (which makes me sad) I didn't bother renewing Gold.

>inb4 buy PS3 version
I would but I'm not sure if the online is any livelier on PS3 and the 360 controller just felt a whole lot better in my hands. Those QB triggers nnnngh.
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>>13798545
Anyone know if PS3 4A is still active?
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>>13798545
you can get ps3 controllers with 360 button placement or shells
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So we all know that a truly open-world AC game wouldn't work.
But what I'd like to see is if they took a little bit of influence from Bloodborne and instead of navigating a menu, made a hub world instead, like a Global Cortex headquarters or something. You can create your character, change his pilot suit based on corporate affiliations or whatnot, talk to NPCs and occasionally get challenged in the arena, walk to the garage to look at/work on your AC, go to the briefing room to select missions, visit your operator, occasionally see other players walking around
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>>13798799
So something like Xenoblade X but with Armored core style gameplay and setting?
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>>13798799
I'd like the other pilots to be fleshed out more and have the story be told through something other than words
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>>13798799
I really, really like the efficiency of AC's menu hub. What you're asking for is modern bloat. It works well in Demon's Souls because it fits the environment and setting, it's completely inappropiate for Armored Core. And there won't ever be anything more appropriate than what it already is.
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>>13799016
I don't know, that's one of the things I really like about Armored Core's storytelling.
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>>13793244
Bara Jack is life
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>AC been doing the whole silent protagonist + fragmented story you have to decipher from flavour text in arena stuff, mission briefings, cryptic dialogue, etc. since 1997

>HUR ARMORED CORE SHITTY JAP STORIES A SHIT MAK NO SENSE

>Demon/Dark Souls does exact same thing

>OMG EPIC INTELLIGENT MATURE STORY THAT DOESN'T SPOONFEED THE PLAYER BUT ENCOURAGES THINKING

>yfw
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>>13799918
Said nobody ever.
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>>13799920
You must be new.
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>>13798799
>waste time/resources making pilot models for no reason other than to run around the menu and slow things down

>>13799016
>I'd like the other pilots to be fleshed out more and have the story be told through something other than words
Please no. Emblem + AC + dialogue tidbits and out of mission messages is perfect. Helps in giving the game that claustrophobic dystopian feel.
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>>13795707
I've been playing LR on pcsx2 using a dying, outdated laptop and it's been running fine albeit a few hiccups in framerate here and there.
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>>13801554
Evangel a shit
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>>13794926
ACs didn't exist before the events that caused AC1, so no.
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>>13801566
According to what source?

That anon was going off of the VD side story, which you can find here:
http://pastebin.com/Y4AMbSPv
which strongly implies that.
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>>13801566
You can see default ACs here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSsGpopK1Q4
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>>13801843
Those may be normals. They do look like default AC's but I think some rayleonard normal looked like that (never get a close look at them).

That said, AC's and Ravens also mentioned in story in 4, specifically as a dying breed compared to the new type of AC's (the full term for which is 'Armored Core NEXT', as in, the next generation of Armored Core).
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>>13801885
>rayleonard normal
*ROSENTHAL normal.
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>>13801885
They could be reintroduced though, since NEXTs are not only polluting but also phased out in V. Also if they all went into underground after VD because of the ruined surface it makes sense to use tech that's more suited for enclosed spaces. Also it would fit FROM's boner for cycles.
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I tend to prefer the simpler answer that ACs are all in order as it fits the tech progression of the games easier regardless of plot.

I also wish we'd get more resolution to the V series, Lost Day sounds like a game outline even and VD came nowhere near resolving the overarching storyline between the three parts and left dangling threads like the space hangar.
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>>13779474
>tfw no AC1 for yurofags
Get your shit together, Sony. The store is ass.
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>>13801910
Yeah, I wasn't trying to refute the connection, just bring up more evidence of their presence in those games. It's pretty clearly implied that people went back to and improved regular AC tech after NEXTs and other Kojima technology were stored in massive sealed facilities to prevent them from being used and worsening the environment. even further
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>>13803321
>came nowhere near resolving the overarching storyline and left dangling threads like the space hangar.
That's kind of Fromsoft's thing though. Vague, unresolved stories that are more about the thematic elements than narrative ones, and lots of loose ends to be interpreted.
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>>13804775
Fromsoft's signature story telling.
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>>13804059
>still no PP or MoA on the NA store
While I'm at it where the fuck is MML2, Capcom?
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>>13779491

He solely took the Cradle mission just because he wanted to kill a perfect ONE MILLION PEOPLE and he was still shit at it without your direct assistance the whole way.

I fucking loved Old King.
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>>13809669
Seriously, I think he started edging at around eighty million...
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>>13804059
>he doesn't have multiple PSN accounts for jp, eu and na locales
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Post your favorite AC music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBAPp34zivE
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>>13811317
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OyVMdD_zAQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czvJtf28-F0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBXhik9kt7U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozHdnvOxgZc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_B2ZEQd7CA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnavvS7V_-w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCLfd6dw3zg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orLgPpGVNkY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_Z526ltnwo

Ah fuck me take it all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vRP48rgdqU
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>>13775644
What does /m/ think of this ?
http://myanimelist.net/manga/7156/Armored_Core__Tower_City_Blade
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>>13801824
The backstory of AC1 is that ACs were developed after humanity was forced underground. MTs were what existed beforehand.
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>>13775644
When is From going to take a break from Souls/Souls-like games and going to do more Armored Core?
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>>13812569

Hopefully happening this year.
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What's everyone's favorite AC setup?

Mine's usually a mid biped with a karasawa. Then if possible a rifle then missiles.
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>>13812625
Light biped with a machine gun and missiles. Sometimes solid rifle instead of a machine gun.
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>>13812625
Depends on the game. AC through AC2AA it's all quads all day. AC3/SL it's OPI'd LWBs. Nexus and Ninebreaker is tanks. Last Raven is whatever I need to beat THIS FUCKING MISSION GOD DAMN. 4 is MWBs, 4A is quads and LWBs, V is HRJs, VD is LRJs.

Weapon is generally lasers or machine guns. Rarely both at once. FUCK missiles.
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>>13812781
>FUCK missiles.
Missiles can ruin shit easily.
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>>13812625
Lightweight Machinegun and Shotgun

using dual shotgun for arena sometimes
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>>13812776
Q U A D S
U
A
D
S
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>These pansys that aren't man enough to handle tanks properly.
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>>13775644

>Stasis

How was he even rank 1. His Next isn't even fully equipped.

Pic related

A TRUE BEAST AND LEGIT RANK 1 CONTENDER
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>>13793830

>You will never team up with Wynn D and Roy to kick Orca's ass for good and save the world
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>>13813254
>OBs out of area in 10 seconds
Otherwise got my shit pushed in.
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>>13775644
Just finished 2 about an hour ago.

>mfw fighting Klein's final form with about 420 turning speed
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>>13812874
Yes, but they've left a bad taste in my mouth since my first missile boats had the bad luck to be twelve-lock boats in a game where there was the lock-breaking optional part.
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>>13812023
There isn't really any reason they couldn't have been re-developed. Remember, human plus was also supposedly an innovation, yet was just cribbed from pre great destruction ruins.
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>>13812625
Generally it winds up something like a mid biped with light core and arms to save weight, and some combination of a machinegun and grenade launcher, plus whatever else is good that I can fit.

Except in 4A. There (of all games) I wound up maining an overweight heavy biped that was practically made of guns. It was something like 2000 units over the recommended weight limit.
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>>13813254
>How was he even rank 1
Because Omer run the league and he's Omer's golden boy.

If anything Lilium is more of a mystery. Her NEXT is a mid range support unit at best.

>His Next isn't even fully equipped
Then again, Roadie is right up there with him, and he still pilots a stock GA Sunshine model, yet it never stopped him from kicking ass.
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Just started AC3 from your recommendations, it's so scary to just get by in the Arena, but this is fun.
By which point should I stop using the defaults or Arena parts, and start shopping? Still unsure of how to spend this bit of cash.
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>>13814724
You can resell for full value, so buy and try to your heart's content.
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>>13814724
>>13814755
Yeah, wait until you have some arena cash to play with, then experiment a bit and see what works for you. Your machine will gradually warp into its final configuration as your preferences settle.

I'd start with machineguns, can't go wrong with them, they're good for just about every situation in just about every game.
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>>13815004
Yeah, but they murder your wallet if you're not well versed in how to conserve ammo with them.

A good laser or pulse rifle for missions will do you and your bottom line a world of wonder.
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>>13815004
So with the arena, I could just grind for a bit at first, while also getting used to the controls more? Or do only new fights give money?
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>>13815098
I never found that myself. Once I got the MG-500 I basically used it the whole game and I never noticed any significant finance drain, and I was just spraying away with it. The MG-1000 was the expensive one, but that's hardly new game equipment anyway.

This is a matter of personal preference, really. Energy weapons can help you scrounge cash and are often fairly powerful, but in exchange empty your precious boost meter, and having both your mobility and offence draw from the same source is often a liability. Expert players can make it work extremely well, but it's hardly the one true option.

A machingun on the other hand is easy to use and effective. Ammo is generally cheap, even for a lot of rounds, they can do a disgustingly huge of cumulative damage very vast, and accuracy isn't a problem because the few bullets that miss count for a lot less than a missed shot from a more powerful weapon.

>>13815120
You can replay any arena fight for practice, but won't be awarded for it, only new fights give money. However, you don't lose any money if you get beaten in the arena, so you can throw yourself at it as much as you want until you win, and operating costs are free as well, so it's a good way to earn some cash early on if you don't want to do missions with the shitty starting AC. The E rank prizes may not seem like much, but you get a lot more as you go up the ranks.

In 3 you do get stopped at certain points up the arena ladder and have to go do more missions to be allowed to progress, but by the time you hit that point you should have plenty of cash to play with.
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http://www.agetec.com/

Wow I thought these guys died in the early 2000s.
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>>13817114
Well their website certainly died in the early 2000s for sure
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>>13812776
>>13813254
Anyone have a good control setup for the psp games?
I can barely make mine work with me
I'm trying to git gud too though,AC on psp is challenging for me
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>>13819533
Are you emulating it?
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>>13819737
yeah
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>>13819533
What I did was map it to be closer to the Nexus/LR setup rather than the classic one.


Movement: D-Pad(/analogue stick)
L-arm: X
R-arm: R-trigger
Change unit: Triangle
Extension: Circle
Boost/jump: L-trigger
OB/EO: Square

>>13819745
Oh.
Well, surely you can use a gamepad, right?
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>>13819750
I don't have a gamepad currently,I can't seem to find my old one and it's been years since I used it.
I'm having the most trouble with setting up the camera
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>>13819769
>playing on a keyboard
You're fucked. Get a gamepad.
>>13819750
You can map the PSP buttons closer to the PS2 configuration. So you could change L-arm to L1, weapon switch to R2, and boost/jump to L2.
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>>13819809
I guess I'll be investing in a gamepad then,seems better for the AC experience anyway
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So am I just shit or is every other mission in this game a pain in the ass?
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>>13820218
I concur. I don't know why AA gets such high praise, I just found most of it's long list of missions tedious and dull.
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>>13820218

Parts of AC2AA are ok but AC2 itself is wayyy better. All of the AC3 era games are even better. Armored Core is kind of an up and down franchise but it's still my favorite. I hope From uses it's Souls team for Mecha shit finally.
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>>13775644
will we see an AC game this year? we've got 11 months to go
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>>13812625
>What's everyone's favorite AC setup?
Quad legs with mid-long range cannon, mid-range arm weapons for support
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>>13823592
probably my favourite setup was my baby, the kaiserV middlewight hanger unit with left arm heavy laser sniper rifle, right arm MG, and inside dual handguns, radar on left back, micro missiles with missile extensions for the right back.
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>>13798799
I'm not sure if it would work but Armored Souls sounds like an interesting idea. Enemy ACs getting dropped in fits the invasion mechanic pretty well, anyway
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>>13793830
Her voice gave me massive boner

Speaking of 4/FA, does stabilizer actually make differences?
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>>13798799
Would be cool in another series but I'd rather keep AC as is. The lack of interaction with other NPCs and a world in general really nails the feeling of being a mercenary who pilots a mech and that would be lost if I'm constantly chatting with NPCs.
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Does anyone know who voiced Old King in English? IMDB isn't very helpful.
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>>13831667
Cho
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