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Could a land war in Russia be won if Hitler or Napoleon had Gundumbs?
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>>13769821
>joints freeze up in arctic temperatures
>frozen rivers break under the weight of mobile suits so you can't pull a Genghis Khan
>Soviets just get an even bigger target to throw Molotovs at
>Doesn't even look half as much like a Nazi as Zakus do, German morale falls accordingly
>regular German army still freezes to death because they refuse to adopt the abominable Oriental practice of public baths via low heat setting beam sabers
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Various countries didn't fail to conquer Russia because of a difference in firepower. They gave up because they weren't prepared for the climate.
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>>13770073
>throwing molotovs on something that can deal with heat in space
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>>13769821
NO YPU GOL DANG IDGET!

GUNDAMS RUN OF HELIUM 3, OF WHICH THERE IS NO MAJOR SUPPLY ON EARTH!

The Jupiter energy fleet was making round trips to supply both the feds and the zeon.

SO NO HELIUM 3 MEANS NO GENDUMS
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>>13770109
Poor planning in general.

The shitty weather was pretty much "YOU DIDN'T EVEN PLAN FOR THIS? WELL GET FUCKED SON."
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>>13770137
>The Jupiter energy fleet was making round trips to supply both the feds and the zeon.
Is the Jupiter Energy Fleet run by Jews ?
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>>13770225
Worse: Space Romans
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>>13769821
Why is Kakyoin stabing Joseph?
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>>13770073
How cold do you think it is in space
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>>13770225
No, they're run by a neutral party. You fuck with the Jupiter energy fleet and nobody gets any energy. So nobody fucks with the Jupiter energy fleet because even Zeon isn't retarded enough to tamper with their energy source.
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>>13772197
Yeah but doesn't Jupiter finance a lot of the factions that rebel against the Federation?
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>>13772402
The Jupiter Empire and the Jupiter energy fleet are not the same people.
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>>13770073
>implying that the speed of German advances would be same as happened in history
>implying german gundumbs wouldn't use ninja techniques to endure tough weather
>implying that it wouldn't be piloted by german ninja who are actually japanese ninja in disguise.
>implying it wouldn't be too late for Soviet to filed their mech since prisons will be under nazi control.
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>>13772738
I know it's the greentext IMPLYING-posting and all but what the fuck is "ninja techniques used to endure tough weather"
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>>13772796
Wearing some warm ski masks and full body underwear, presumably.
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>>13769821

No, probably not.

That said, the industrial and logistical cost of them would have have probably ended the war a little earlier, and it'd make a pretty kick-ass exhibit for a ticket holder at the Kubinka Tank Museum. So we missed out.
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The biggest issue with the land invasion of Russia was absolutely SHIT CROPS ANYWHERE. Napoleon's armies moved quickly, ahead of their supplies, and took food from nature and surrounding villages as they went to supplement themselves while the supply trains caught up. There simply wasn't anything in Russia to take or steal.

The bad weather later just compounded this problem, but it's not like Napoleon said, "All right, let's attack Russia as soon as the snows fall. Yeah, you'll be fine in your board shorts, mon ami." They seriously thought there'd be food, the roads wouldn't be completely terrible, and the supply trains would catch up. In essence, they overestimated how developed of a place Russia was.
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>>13770073
>crossing a river
RX-78 jumps like 100 meters into the air every episode and all the Gundams after it can fly
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Them niggas just need acguys
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>>13769821
It could have been won by regular hitler, if he planned better
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>>13772423
On paper
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>>13773923
Russian troops had burned all the fields and destroyed every village on Napoleon's path. It is not like Russia didn't have farms.

Napoleon underestimated how fucking huge Russia is and didn't understand Russians do not surrender just because you win a few battles. Europeans surrender when you take their capital.
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>>13779044
Fucker decided to wage a two-front war. Against a major trading partner who had no reason to fight him. After a certain point you have to realize that no amount of competence can save you from pants-on-head retarded decisions like that.
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>>13779089
But muh "Hitler was a tatical genius" meme.
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>>13779089
Germans had wanted to colonize Russia for a hundred years before that:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drang_nach_Osten
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>>13779203
just because the plan is old doesn't mean it's not fucking retarded to try it
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>>13770073
>joints freeze up in arctic temperatures
>but have no problem fighting in the middle of the vacuum of space
>molotovs ever damaging fucking gundamium

full retard
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>>13779105
That thing was cool in Lost Planet 2.
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>>13779253
There's a difference between atmospheric cold and vacuum. In atmosphere, your heat is transfered away from you. In the vacuum of space there is no atmosphere to do this and you retain your heat.
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>>13779105
What did Hitler need such a comically large weapon for? Shooting space ships?
Shooting Mobile Suits?
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>>13769821
>Hitler
Maybe.
>Napoleon
Doesn't matter because he couldn't supply his army. Gundams without ammo and hungry pilots can't fight zakus.

>>13770073
>arctic temperatures
In the European part?
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>>13779562
Compensation.
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>>13770271
How much moisture do you think is in space?
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>>13779105
>The Shagohod was German all along
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>>13769821
Doubt they could fuel em and provide them with ammo.
>somewhere near Polotsk
>hey Sergei, look what i find
>try open door Nikita
>there's someone inside
>well shoot him
>da
>what do we do with this now?
>take it apart and bury it
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>set a reactor to critical over any desired target
sure
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>>13779562
>What did Hitler need such a comically large weapon for? Shooting space ships?
The same reason the Japanese built the Yamato.

Both Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan were aware that they could never beat the Allies in quantity. They were always going to be out-produced. So by default they HAVE to design weapons that, in theory, could win against overwhelming numbers.

Unfortunately, just because you built a ship or a gun that costs 10 times more than usual, it doesn't mean it would be 10 times more effective.

Superweapons was the Axis' only chance at victory. Bad for them and good for the Allies, it was the Americans who came up with a super-weapon that worked. The nuke.
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>>13780432
Super weapons weren't even needed. Germans were beaten without them (Russian tech was inferior), Japanese would give up sooner or later.
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>>13781439
>Super weapons weren't even needed. Germans were beaten without them (Russian tech was inferior), Japanese would give up sooner or later.
But of course. My point is that it was the Axis who needed a super-weapon to survive. But the Allies, who as you said didn't need one, who ended up getting a real functional superweapon.
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>>13781644
Why didn't the Japanese use Evas? They're nuke-proof.
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>>13785786
They ran out of broken teenagers, they had all died training for or on Okinawa. Their cloning labs were destroyed by the PRc Black Lotus spy network of the Allies in retaliation for being led onto a false operation that resulted in them stealing plans for pro-Manchu gachapon toys instead of the chain-lightning gun the Kuomingtang leaders had believed, and the Germans took a loan from the Japanese to build Unit 2 that they never returned, hindering Nipponese ability to build more.

Unit 3 was eaten by a cloud jellyfish monster en route to its test site a week before Nagasaki, and an ill-fated intercept by Army Air Forces caused 36 American bombers to jettison their combined bomb load over the disguised Eva research facility in order to escape the fighters. No one has found Units 0 and 1 to this day.

The Americans captured Unit 4 and used it several decades later to install their FREEDOM Engine on it but forgot to overwrite its OS with American capitalist pay2upgrade trashware, and the conflict in coding caused the FREEDOM Engine to explode, taking the entire facility with it and, according to government reports, "making the test site absolute pro-American".

It is prophesied by a blind seer with a black giant filled with green crystal living under the Himalayas that in 2017 it shall be revealed that during the Shin Neo Jewish Uprising the now-defunct World Jewish Front had obtained Unit 0 to make Units 5 to 12 from. Japan shall fulfill the prophecy by providing one emotionally-broken 14-year-old male who will summon the lost Eva Unit 1 and use its F.A.P.A.R.M. weapon to destroy Units 5 to 12. Russia will also do something with an original Eva Unit they had built from spy plans in 1944 that nobody knew about despite them parading it during Victory Day every year since 1945.
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>>13769821
Hitler and Napoleon would have been unstoppable if armed with mobile suits simply because nothing of those eras could penetrate mobile suit armour. MS could very well kill entire armies of tens of thousands of men with their feet alone, eventually, simply because of how impenetrable gundarium and even zaku-level steel armour was. Furthermore, a system of that size is not going to be hindered by the weather conditions anymore simply by means of how much raw torque and force they generate. Cold is never a hindrance to space-developed systems, and mud and precipitation stop being a problem when MS are underwater-capable.
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>>13785808
>Russia will also do something with an original Eva Unit they had built from spy plans in 1944 that nobody knew about despite them parading it during Victory Day every year since 1945.
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>>13785808
5/5, laughed a little.
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>>13769821
Wouldn't it depend on the number of gundams they had and the type of gundams they used. I mean do they hundreds or thousands of gundams or only like 5-10?
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>>13785827
*have
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