Muv Luv Schwarzesmarken General: Commissar Edition

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I've pledged my self to the imouto alliance

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>>13752583
I've sworn loyalty to Genossin Brehme, does that count?

I remember reading an article explaining that shaved vagina became a thing when porn magazines started ramping up how explicit they could get away with being.

>>13752765
Loyalty to a person over the state? That's treasonous!

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>>13752776

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>>13752776
I'll take my chances because Beatrix is worth it.

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>>13752781
Good Man.

>>13752583
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPKH4GHiihg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCSNa38MQrI

>>13752765
Wait, is she trying to show us that she's not wearing anything down there?

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I've sworn loyalty to Hauptmann Irisdina.

When do we show these stasi dogs our metal.

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I am prepared for the silly tie

Anyone have the ETA on Schwarzesmarken uncensored today?

Shit, I didn't saw there was a new thread while answering.

So, again...

>>13751524
>>13751572
>>13751614

Too bad it's a shoop.

Just opened in Photoshop, zoomed in and you can clearly see the area have been smudged.

What an amateur work, the artifacts are really not that hard to reproduce and would give him a way more believable look ( Could always be uncertified, but it would be much harder than just closely looking at it ).

>>13751995
There's not actually that much money at stake but rather the financial solvency of the company. Which still doesn't make jewish as fuck moves like splitting a game in two and selling it for double the price defensible.

>give us more stories set in the months and years after Alternative's final victory in Operation Ouka.
That will pretty much immediately obsolete the current expanded universe though, so Alternative 2 still sits somewhere beyond the horizon after they finish everything else.

>>13753031
All the more reason they should have started investing in new IPs long ago, to generate new sources of cash in preparation for when Muv-Luv becomes old and busted.

>>13753065
Kind of hard to invest when you're selling off everything you can and restructuring just to finish what you're working on.

We don't know what the arrangement is but you can basically assume MAGES probably effectively bought age at some point in the last few years, at the very least they're joined at the hip.

I'd appreciate some input from a novels reader.

How will they break down seven novels into only twelve episodes? No matter how you slice it, at least two volumes will have only a single episode to cover them.

Can anyone provide some overview of what each of the seven novels covers, and which novels are primarily useless fluff like swimming pool visits and snowball fights that could be easily cut?

>>13753208
Don't start this man.

If you read the translated portions of Volume I, you'd already know that they've botched pretty much all the character introductions.

My guess is they'll compact the nuances characters have, showing only their domineering traits and leading to a lot of exaggerations, kinda like the KGNE anime. Metaphorically, the LN characters would be like fine wine, while the anime is going to be like grain alcohol.

>>13752932
>too bad
Hairyfags die

>>13753208
They will probably jump into the rebellion way faster. What people are leaving out in their massive bitchfits is that the Stasi are a background presence for a big chunk of the LN/VN story (Beatrix barely even appears in the first game) but they're being introduced in a very straightforward fashion very early on here for a reason.

It's still going to be a pretty much "this thing happened" level adaption though, like Black Bullet and Madan no Ou to Vanadis that crammed 4 and 5 volumes into 12 episodes respectively. Anyone watching this expecting any kind of depth is kind of insane. I've already made peace with the fact Kirke will barely show up only to let people know she exists.

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>randomly look at Uchida's twitter
>turns out it's the anniversary of the Stazi HQ being stormed
>WE STAZI NOW

>>13753031
>That will pretty much immediately obsolete the current expanded universe though, so Alternative 2 still sits somewhere beyond the horizon after they finish everything else.
I don't get your point. You mean that Age will suffer as a consequence of releasing sequels in the Alternative universe?

>>13753253
Yeah, probably the reason the stasi were introduced as straight forward evil villain types rather than the more subtle route the LN went with.

>>13753216
>they've botched pretty much all the character introductions
And what else do you expect them to do with only one cours?

>>13753279
Not much really. Characters gotta feel or taste the same, which they don't in the anime. Even if they totally changed the plot, so long as the characters felt like they should, then it wouldn't be much of a problem. It's kinda hard to describe, it might just all be psychological. Maybe someone who watches the anime first and then plays the VN or read the LN would be able to provide a better analyses.

>>13753253
Kirke isn't even listed among the characters for the anime, so she might even be cut completely.

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I have a question about the Kickstarter. Apparently the deadline for apparel stuff has been extended to the 20th, but somewhere else on the forums it says that if you order an apparel item (I'm getting the TSF Pilot jacket) that as long as you get it before Backerkit is closed In March/April you can still order the item, it'll just be shipped later, presumably with all the figs and stuff later in the year.

Am I understanding this right? It'd be much more convenient for me if I don't have to scramble by the 20th. I want to change banks before I order it, so its possible for me to pay it now, I'd just like the whole baking thing to go through first.

Schwarzemarken seems fun so far, I hope the VN gets translated at some point, because I prefer reading the source material. Not sure who's best German girl just yet.

>>13753458
She did have a confirmed VA in the prerelease announcements though so she'll be there.

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I ask this question again: what's the fuel for TSF and where is the main powerplant(s) located?

>>13753552
it's a mixture of a dry and liquid propellant

>>13752765
I'm still unsure whether the term used among DDR members was "genossin" or "kamarade". I know it's "tovarisch" in Russian and "compañero" in Spanish.

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Going by the first episode, this thing has way too much drama and snow.

Was this written by Fred Gallagher?

I don't think power plant specs are ever outright stated.

>>13753552
I don't know if we've ever had a decent explanation for how functional they actually are without jump units. If you actually look at the things front to back the back hump goes much higher than the cockpit block and the Shiranui cutaway has some other block in there, so that's probably where whatever shit besides the jump unit engines is.

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>>13753711

>>13752583
Wait, so if all planes in this timeline instead became mecha, then what are the planes they're flying around?

>>13753721
Only fighter and attack aircraft starting in the 60s became giant robots. A lot of bombers and basically any transport aircraft are still around.

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>>13753721

Bombers and Transports

>>13753721
Planes are still around, for example a lot of battles throughout the series consist of moping up the laser class with TSF and calling in bombers to carpet the rest.

>>13753738
And even then not every jet got legged.

It's sorta arbitrary which ones made the jump, unless there's a plan to make TSFs of every plane from the F11 onward due to that weird bit where Tiger I comes after Phantom and even the F-5 if I'm not messing up my family tree memory. Long story short the Crusader is in an awkward grey zone in Muv Luv, where it could've been the last of the jet fighters or an early TSF precursor for all we know.

Also worth mentioning is the one exception to the rule about bombers not getting made into mechs: XB-70's not-exactly-a-TSF alternate universe incarnation, the XG-70.

>>13753789
I said giant robot though, the Susanoo isn't much of a robot.

>>13753789
>Crusader

More like F-111 or F-106.

There's also no Su-24 or Su-25 from what I've seen.

>>13753797
It sorta is, still.

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>>13753797

The fuck do you call this?

>>13753809
Ill-defined aerial fortress that may or may not count as a robot.

>>13753813
It has a head, and the 70d revision gains better defined limb-fins.

Still waiting for Schwarzesmarken uncensored raw.

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>>13753711
>If you actually look at the things front to back the back hump goes much higher than the cockpit block and the Shiranui cutaway has some other block in there, so that's probably where whatever shit besides the jump unit engines is.
Apparently, the area that I painted over with green might be the engine.

>>13752798
Looks kinda fuzzy down there...

>>13754235
It's fake.

>>13753842
The d is a fairly legitimate robot but the b (which is the actual plane equivalent) is just a big pile of nothing.

The final Susanoo is like some sort of unholy mini-Macross anyways.

>>13752637
You've forced me to consider the fact that ero voice acting is pretty much dying. Maybe the internet has contributed to people not wanting the association when it's so much easier to get found out but there's also so much fucking all ages shit out there these days between old eroge developers going all ages, low budget anime style video games, and app games out the butthole that it's usually not very necessary for anyone with much of a name.

Omigawa (allegedly) is like the only seiyuu I can think of under 30 to do it, the people who are going to be taking over anime roles from Shizuka Itous and Yuu Asakawas are never going to get into adult voice acting.

why do they keep adapting bad spinoffs again

>>13754480
Because they can get someone else to pay for the LN promotion and jamming all their seiyuu in the uncast roles.

>>13754488
If Age had planned this better, they'd follow up the anime with the VN. Instead, they've delayed it until Winter, when the advertising power of the anime will have greatly waned.

>>13754494
Oh they planned it perfectly, they just didn't execute for shit. Anyways the first Vita port will probably come out around the right time which is arguably more relevant (eg. Majikoi anime ended up promoting the PS3 port)

>>13754376
did lise's va voice h scenes in the kimi ita remake?

>>13754856
Well I've never cared to bother with that game but her character sure has sex in it. Nanjo is an old eroge seiyuu (usually as Aya Tachibana) but she is a crippled obaasan at this point.

Although KimiIta 2012 is a weird game given they got Kumiko Watanabe to stay on for it.

>>13754856
Yes.
Yukarin doesn't do ero, though.

So I just watched Bridge of Spies and it was pretty based. Best Spielberg film in decades. Just saying.

>>13755744
That film got me hyped for Schwarzesmarken

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Glow in the dark lux shirt.

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Never forget

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>>13756683
It would have been worth it but they outsourced all the new art to Chinese children.

Anyone know the last day to upgrade you pledge in the Muv-Luv kickstarter?

>>13755939
Pretty much what I was thinking.

>>13758341
the kickstarter started already?

>>13758392
It ended a year ago.

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>>13758392

>>13758400
massive failure?

>>13758439
Only the most successful VN kickstarter to date. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/muvluv/muv-luv-a-pretty-sweet-visual-novel-series

>>13758439
>>13758549
Actually fuck anon, you could've really just scrolled up a bit >>13756683

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What's your favorite?

>>13758341
The BackertKit will end around March. Bou-sama will be providing the first sketches of the dakis designs by end of February, so I expect the BK to end by either the first or second week-end of March.

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>>13758598
Fubuki

Shiranui was good, but sometimes those shoulders turn me off for some reason.

>>13758549
I wonder when the bottom will fall out on this shit with people giving 137k to translate games even Japan barely knows exists.

>>13758638
japan is known for having shit taste.

>>13758642
Yes, how silly of them to not recognize the incredible artistic merit of low budget vampire loli chuunige #243

>>13758277

So how many dickings by the time the anime starts?

It's in the double digits, yeah?

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>>13758598

A-10

Despite how long it has been, I still hold out hope that one day we'll have an official design for the A-12

>>13758654
some enterprising young VN devs are going to see that kickstarter, see the Sakura series on steam and make fucking bank by simulpublishing

https://twitter.com/muvluvseries/status/688580179854147584

So this combined with what they said on muvluv.moe probably means that Schwarzmarken *and* some other VN (maybe TE) will be translated. Worst case we have Schwarzmarken and TE, best case they use this money to higher permanent translators and do everything and all future content.

Or its a dub.

>>13758839
Damn, motherfuckers are getting me hyped. I'd be ecstatic if with just SW and TE. I doubt they'd say it's something "bigger than SW" in the other post if it was a dub.

>>13758852
Well I mean the tweet could be talking about a dub and the .moe post is still up in the air, but lets not think about those dark things

>>13758766
it depends on whether or not you believe a majority of honeypot operations actually end in sex

Someone should really let age know that the link to @schwaken_anime twitter account on the anime website actually links to @TE_anime.

>>In an alternate universe where the fallout of World War II led to a global split that left East Germany and West Germany in charge of the entire left and right hemispheres of the earth, the real war is only just beginning!
>>In 1967, the space race resulted in contact with the hostile ALPHA aliens hiding out on the moon, and their assault on a world too freshly divided turned the earth into a frozen hell!
>>Now specialized squadrons from East Germany, otherwise known as the German Democratic Republic, are dispatched to try and clean up the battlefields with mech-driven heavy artillery, the Robotic Assault Drones, RAD!
>>The 666th squadron, known as the BLACK REAPERS, are the strongest in the corp, but their integrity may be under threat of compromise thanks to infiltration by the evil Stazis, who want to turn the war into a vehicle for East Germany's supremacy over the world!
>>Captain Teddy Ableback, fearful of such an outcome, begrudgingly enlists the help of West German transplant Katie Wallham to turn the tide of this global disaster and save the Earth from the alien threat once and for all!

>I initially approached Schwarzesmarken with trepidation. I've heard mixed reviews of its predecessor, Muv-Luv Alternative (of which Schwarzesmarken serves as a prequel), and its setting in East Germany raised red flags that this could easily be more conservative propaganda masquerading as a military otaku harem show.

>The unit is where the anime takes its name which is the German word for “666.” This sort of “scary” Christian imagery will seem tired to Westerners where every B-level horror film about demon possession has invoked 666 at one point or another. That said, I can't help but associate military units and vague religious icons with Nazism, especially ones shown committing mass executions. Schwarzesmarken is just toeing the line

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>>13759743
>>13759747

>>13752789
>roudousha translated to worker instead of proletariat

What kind of illiterate ignorant imbecile did this?

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>>13758772

If I recall, the recently-released LD10 may have an answer to that.

>>13759904
But anon, the English was translated from the German (Arbeiter), not the Japanese.

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STOP BEING FAGGOTS AND ALL HEIL BEATRIX!

>>13760146
I love a woman in uniform.

So now that ML has two animus

SRW when?

>>13760305
>ML gets into SRW
>but TE only so no Takeru
>instead Setsuna quantum bursts the BETA and dialogues them into leaving Earth, with the ELS helping him to convince them since the BETA acknowledge silicon-based life

https://youtu.be/MFY8gYXjL4I

A video where two germans with Japanese and History majors analyse the first episode of SM in how German it is.

It's actually really interesting so far ( I'm only 20 minutes in because fuck, it lasts for 50 minutes ). Lot of details I didn't know about, even if I like History.

If you are interested the actual explanations begin at around 6 minutes, the rest is just some presentations of both guys and ML in general.

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>>13760209
Hell yeah.

>>13760450
>durhur older models why don't they make a new model of helmet in this war against aliens

Are they daft? Even in the real world in the PRESENT we have people in the army using ancient shit from WW2 because there isn't enough funding to go around to equip everyone with the best shit. The military in ML is moving to TSF combat, why would they waste limited funds on making new helmets for infantry?

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Well I can safely say they're going to adapt all the volumes.
They really rushed through everything and skipped a lot.

>>13760146
Literally female Hitler. And I didn't think she could get any more over the top evil.

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>>13760542
>not liking Beatrix
go get eaten by BETA

>>13760561
So /a/ waifus Katia and /m/ waifus Beatrix. Why am I not surprised.

>>13760570
There is a lot of Katia fags here too.

Actually I would say it's rather well distributed between Katia, Iris and Beatrix around here.

>>13760570
>>13760584
Beatrix has the biggest hatedom now, if that counts for anything.

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BD poster sketches out

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>>13760592
I'd expect the Iris shitflinging to start ratcheting up with this scene.

>>13760616
>BD poster sketches
>literally one of the seven things listed is a poster

Are you retarded, son?

>>13760631
Sorry I didn't even read it, I was too busy looking for which Katia was better

>>13760376
That would be fairly amusing, in the event BX's writer hasn't been kicked out.
>now that the BETA are gone, time to purge the Stasi
>tfw Flit is in charge of that mission

>>13760630
So if the OP/flashbacks aren't lying, why would she shoot Jurgen?

>>13760694
To save her own skin of course. All we know so far is that she betrayed her own brother to save her own ass.

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>>13758598
J-20.

>>13760536
Pham is the most beautiful ML girl.

>>13760616
boobs everywhere

>>13760630
She hesitated in pulling the trigger. There's a twist there.

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>>13760735
What the fuck are those BETA in the top right corner ?

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Reminder that Mel is always and forever the best girl.

>>13760809
She has a creepy ass voice.

>>13760809
Her VN is Coming Soon™ and will be 18+

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Being late because Cheburashka is a piece of shit that's always breaking down is one thing, how are they supposed to explain sitting around drinking tea instead of, you know, keeping the defense line from completely collapsing and letting the BETA into Berlin.

>>13760796
Upgraded Grappler and Destroyer, a fister strain, and a catapult/trebuchet artillery-style strain. Or so I got from /a/.

>>13752583
Why was episode 2 so fucking QUALITY?

>>13760866
wat
can't you fucking babies handle a few BETA on your own?
man the fuck up

>>13760868
The last one with the Superior heads is really sickening.

>>13760866
Even if the defense line broke there was a backup plan.
The rest of the NVA reserve forces would have been rushed to the area and along with the Stasi MPs they would restabilize the line while the Stasi would complete their objective.

>>13760561
>>13760866
So does she wash under those huge tits too?

>>13760864
gonna need a source on that buddy

The commie-police captain looks more like a nazi than a commie.

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>>13760866
Because they're EVIL. They don't need logic or rationality because they're EVIL!

So, I'm assuming I have to watch this show with the same mindset I'd watch Cross Ange or Valvrave right?

>>13760880
Yeah, but how can they justify not even trying to deploy the promised two battalions of TSFs?

>1 cour
>literally Liden is rushing through episodes and skipping content with shitty QUALITY

Liden was a mistake

>>13760893
You'll enjoy it a lot more if you didn't know how the source material went. Same as KimiNozo.

>>13760896
An SM anime with this budget was a mistake.

Especially considering they could have put a little more into it if they did give a fuck and not get that useless marketing spam.

>>13760896
This is the KimiNozo animu director, anon. Mediocre to decent on its own, terrible as adaptation, still guaranteed to cause shitstorms.

>>13760894
I'm not sure if I'm remembering right but in the VN they were on the field but just waiting.
Since Stasi and NVA upper command is different they can just lie to each other and the excuse was of course mechanical problems

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Did they remove the airspeed indicator from the HUD shots so that they wouldn't have to make the mistake that TE made of having even the most modern TSFs struggle to break 300km/h?

>no rain camo

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>13760146
She's literally female-Gihren, just even more evil, less pragmatic, and more sadistic. This shit is getting ridiculous.

>>13760927
I'm pretty sure its because Satelight was putting the wrong numbers. For example the high speed chance between the Scarlet Twins in their Su-37 Terminator vs Tarisa in her Active Eagle was going a lot faster then "220 km/h".

>>13760947
>>13760146
>Beatrix is suddenly the one responsible for the Stasi becoming a bunch of douchebags abusing their power.

Why.jpg

>>13760978
They didn't say she was responsible. Anybody can get up and make a speech espousing the party line.

>>13760888
They showed some early screens on the stream a couple of months ago. It's still in development (or rather, it's finally in development)

>>13760987
I wouldn't be surprised if they did. So far, she's been the most unlikable character in a cast full of unlikable characters.

>>13760809
She is a whore who fucks BETA for pleasure.
Yeah, I know she was mindbroken and was later put out of her misery by Takeru, along with all the others who were captured by the BETA when they assimilated the carrier.

>>13760694
They would be both purged, so knowing how much her brother love her, he told her to sell him to the STASI

>>13760886

She got tons of sex slave for that

>>13760766
her hesitating in the OP and the fact that they cut away when yoiu hear the gunshot makes me think that she wasn't the one who shot him. anyone who has read the novels/VN/BIS could correct me but is it possible that Iris, Jurgen and Beatrix get caught in some big mess (maybe Iris is the reason they get caught) and Jurgen takes the fall to protect them. the Stasi still suspect Iris so they force her to execute Jurgen with Beatrix being made to oversee it, Iris is unable to kill him and jurgen, as his last wish, begs beatrix to kill him and say that Iris did it to save her which she does. this would explain why iris never denied killing jurgen and why Iris and Beatrix hate each other so much, Iris hates that Beatrix was able to kill her brother and builds further on the jealousy of her not being as good as Beatrix as she was able to do what Iris couldn't. Beatrix simply feels that Iris is responsible for what happened

>>13761111
Jurgen and Iris were involved with anti-government shit, Stasi found them out, Jurgen had Iris rat him out and kill him so she'd survive (they already knew at that point anyway). Beatrix is mad that Iris killed Jurgen and that they didn't let her know anything.

>>13761037
You mean Lilia.

>>13761111
>>13761122
Rather convoluted if you ask me. The anime is likely to remove the whole romance/ childhood friendship shit in BiS if they cover it. It'll likely be that Beatrix was just some sadistic crazy lady who couldn't take Iris being better than so she framed / forced Iris to rat out Jurg (basically making what Theo thinks canon).

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>dem looks
>dat voice
MUH DICK

>>13761145
She sounds way cuter and sexier in the VN: http://www.age-soft.co.jp/Product/sm/wac/index.htm?process=7&escurl=../character10_esc.html

>>13761145
>>13761149
Who'd have thought Yukarin had it in her?

>>13761149

>Ara, ara... Ara, ara... Do you want to embrace me?

Hnnngh.

>>13761168
She's a way better Esdeath than a Mine.

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>>13761168
Everyone? Don't tell me you've never heard her do this kind of voice before?

>>13761175
Sharon > Stella

>>13761183

There's art of sharon?

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>dat computer
you guys know what to do

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>>13761183
No.

>>13761194
Yes.

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>>13761217

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>>13761217
Become hikki?

Translation of German in the episode from /a/, taken from /r/anime.

>On the 18th of February, at the western shore of the Dnjepr near Kiew, the armed forces of the Warsaw Pact fended off the BETA squadron advancing into the Ukraine. (publication of the Ministry of Defence) The person responsible for the victory was the commander of the 1st East German Tank division [REDACTED] On the 17th the [REDACTED] relocated his entire troops on the other side of the Dnjepr. On the eastern shore, a gigantic mine field was put aound Brovary.

>On the 18th advancing Destroyer-class BETA advanced into the mine field. [REDACTED] the success of this strategy lead to the escape of the BETA squadron. Remaining smaller units were almost completedy annilated by tanks [Cut off] and air forces.

>At the moment, the armed forces of the Warsaw Pact are located [REDACTED] and execute a counter-attack against the BETA."

>As long as the hero Alfred Strauchwitz, who promised victory, leads our tank divisions the countries of humanity will surely be reconquered.

[Theodor skips]
>the arms [probably a typo, meant to be Armee] [not present in the sentence, probably "managed"] to annihilate the BETA squardron through the descruction of lone, scattered enemy elements.

>[REDACTED] A political commisionar of the party remarks "Soon new soviet tank models will be sent to the front. Under this [REDACTED] the recapture of the Ukraine only a question of time.

[Theodor skips]
>[REDACTED] Defense coucil of the 1st of May: [REDACTED]

>The proposition was made after a new BETA squadron had united on the 28 of April and the plan for the construction of fortresses as a countermeasure was made public. [Cut off] voices exist. [REDACTED]

Another German translation, this time the email.

>From: Headquarters [Unusual is the use of "Stammsitz". In modern time "Hauptquartier" is more common.]

>Title: Strategy guideline (erroneously written with a space)

>Text: Withdrawal of ground units from fortressposition Neuenhagen. Your mission is to support the ground troops's retreat. For execution, one TSF department is made available. First Lieutenant Thi-Rang and Second Lieutenant Waldheim are to be involved."

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>>13761217

>>13761218
Reminder that Yuuya hit it and quit it

>>13761238
I'm pretty sure she only got him to fuck her because she lured him into piloting her Raptor for a test spin or something.

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>>13760034

>Raptor-edges with Double-Cannons

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>>13761145
>>13761149
>>13761168
>>13761169
My dick gets hard thinking of all the sounds she'll make during penetration.

SCHWARZESMARKEN TSF pilot Theodore Ebelbach is today exposed as a secret sado-masochist sex pervert.

The brother of infamous Stasi member Lise Hoenstein is filmed romping with five hookers at a depraved STASI-STYLE orgy in a torture dungeon. Ebelbach— a friend to Schwarzesmarken big names like Katia Waldheim and Irisdina Bernhard— barks ORDERS in GERMAN as he lashes girls wearing mock DEATH CAMP uniforms and enjoys being whipped until he BLEEDS.

The TSF pilot brother of Hoenstein, who is a pal of Heinz Axman, plays a concentration camp commandant in a FIVE-HOUR torture chamber video.

Ebelbach—the most powerful pilot in Schwarzesmarken—barks orders in German as he WHIPS two hookers dressed in striped uniforms reminiscent of AUSCHWITZ garb while girls in Stasi uniforms look on.

At one point the strapping 18-year-old—who publicly likes to give the impression he has put his sister's evil legacy behind him—yells "she needs more of ze punishment!" while brandishing a LEATHER STRAP over a brunette's naked bottom.

Then the lashes rain down as Ebelbach counts them out in German: "Eins! Zwei! Drei! Vier! Fünf! Sechs!"

With each blow, the girl yelps in pain as grinning, red-haired Ebelbach becomes clearly aroused. And after the beating, he makes her perform a sex act on him.

Before hammering away at the girls he plays a cowering death camp inmate himself, having his GENITALS inspected and his hair searched for LICE—mocking the humiliating way Jews were treated by SS death camp guards in World War II.

Then, head bowed and tied up in chains, he is interrogated by a dominatrix before being chained up and LASHED so hard over a TORTURE BENCH that he WHIMPERS for mercy and has to have a wound dressing put on his backside.

His capitalism-hating sister—who had Axman as guest of honour at her birthday party—would have been proud of her warped brother's command of German as he struts around looking for bottoms to whack.

>>13760864
Details?

>>13761410
But even the vile Stasi fascist might have been less impressed with the sordid company her adopted sibling keeps.

Ebelbach's appointment with his hookers was at a smart 2million mark riverside flat on East Berlin's Prenzlauer Berg at noon on Friday.

Our investigators obtained a graphic video of his sick antics.

The girls arrived first, led by the main dominatrix, a stern-faced blonde, carrying a suitcase laden with whips, chains and uniforms. Half an hour later, Ebelbach turned up wearing a smart overcoat and suit after making the short walk from his nearby Prenzlauer Berg home.

After paying £2,500 in cash, Ebelbach was ordered by the head hooker to strip as she played out his sick fantasy.

"OK, undress," she snapped. "UNDRESS! You are going to be punished to be shown how we treat prisoners in our facility."

As his white Y-fronts hit the floor, the powerfully built blonde barked out her orders: "Lie face down! Don't look at me!" Ebelbach meekly obeyed and was chained and manacled before another blonde dominatrix, wearing only a jacket, shirt and knee-length boots, entered the room.

As another hooker ticked off points on an inspection sheet, she roughly scrutinised his head and private parts before demanding his age. "I'm 21," he whispered, lying to attract a severe beating. He also lied about his name, saying he was called Yuuya Bridges, so the punishment would be really painful.

His flogging over, he left the room before saying, "Thank you, mistress". After having his wounds dressed, Ebelbach makes the transformation from masochist to sadist. Now fully clothed, he bends two blonde girls over the whipping bench, their striped concentration camp-style uniform bottoms yanked down to expose their buttocks.

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>>13761432

>>13761432
He converses in German with one girl throughout the torture, loving every minute of death camp role-play, while the other girl pleads: "I don't know what you are saying, so I don't know what to do."

Humboldt-educated Ebelbach has refused to condemn his sister who was considered so dangerous she was interned during the war. He once said in an interview: "She is wonderful as a person. But I don't think my sister would have made a good Stasi agent. She talked tough but, fundamentally, he was too soft."

Whereas her brother is a hard man—especially when it comes to beating girls' naked bottoms. One of the hookers is strapped into a gag to stifle her screams as Ebelbach lays into her backside in front of the other four girls. With a Stasi swagger, he counts each stroke in German before having sex with his ‘victim'.

After the sex marathon, Ebelbach dressed again and had a quick pit-stop, turning down wine in favour of a cup of Beatrix fanboy tears. At 5.05pm, he put on his overcoat and disappeared into the blustery afternoon to resume his other life as Theodore the respectable TSF pilot who will be participating in the laser jagd in Hohenschönhausen next weekend.

>>13761145
>Those eyes

So BETA are not the only aliens on the planet after all.

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>>13761465
It wasn't apparent in the VN?

>>13761477
No, because at least they have a good orientation.

On this Beatrix shot, it seems like the eyes just made an inward rotation, thus giving her an alien look.

>>13761175
For a second I thought the dog was holding a condom.

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>>13761410
>>13761432
>>13761442
Der Genosse hier ist ein Held der Deutschen Demokratischen Republik!!

>>13761229
Saved.

>>13761442
>he
You missed one, anon.

>>13760146
Isn't it supposed to be the left fist?

>>13761229
>SEAL copypasta

Doesn't look long enough for that.

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>Totenkopf (Skull) Emblem
>666

Are we the baddies?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU

>>13760533
>Well I can safely say they're going to adapt all the volumes.
Fuck. Seriously?

I was hoping this would be 2 cours. So far it's been enjoyable at least but it feels like it needs time to let the story stew and develop.

>>13761410
>>13761432
>>13761442

OVA when ?

>>13761410
My favourite part about that article was how Mosley ended his giant five hour nazi orgy with a cup of tea. British gonna be British.

>>13761594
Reminder that TE sold 40k and age never deigned to make a second season. They're a really cheap company and Kouki hoards what profits they do get for his cars. Frankly, I'm surprised that they mustered up the effort to pony up enough money for TE to have 2 cours. Guess its success told them they could be even cheaper with SM, hence it only getting one cour.

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>>13761217
Made the screen transparent for y'all lazy people.

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>>13761644
>making a second season of a mediocre selling trainwreck of an anime because the game sold okay
None of this works like that.

>>13760530
>newer helmets are actually even more simple to make then older ones

>>13760530
Show me a present day german soldier with a WW2 stalhelm.

>>13761850
>to make
entire point is they don't make new shit, they reuse old shit if they have it left over

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>>13761912
And at one point you are gona run out of stashes of old ww2 helmets that you might have removed with newer models years before.

If we gona go by this then we should see T-34/85 and SU-100 and other world war 2 tanks in defensive use.

>>13761693
>mediocre
It sold quite well.

>>13761946
And? The entire point is that there's nothing odd with militaries using outdated equipment, even more so when put in a situation where it's harder than usual to produce new stuff, especially if it's going to be for the fucking infantry when they want to mass produce giant fucking robots.

Are you retarded?

>>13761946
Are you aware that the actual Nationales Volksarmee still had T-34/85M tanks in their arsenal for reserve units in the mid-1980s, just like several other WarPac countires?

And just for the record
>>13762052
>>13761912
>>13760530
I was IN the fucking military and my entire platoon was armed with fucking M16s from the Vietnam War probably because we were never expected to use them (we didn't)

So no, it's not fucking surprising that a country with far less money to go around would have troops still armed with old equipment you brainless fuck

jesus christ

>>13761993
Maybe if it had actually outsold Evol it would have gotten another season instead.

>>13762132
Wow, that actually hurt. Jerk.

>>13762076
>Are you aware that the actual Nationales Volksarmee still had T-34/85M tanks in their arsenal for reserve units in the mid-1980s, just like several other WarPac countires?
That's why I made that point yet we have not seen them.

>>13762052
>>13762126
Welfare queen I see.

>>13762181
>Welfare queen
nah that's only america

>>13762181
here's your reply shitposter-kun :^)

>>13762181
>welfare queen
>being this anti-military
Did Jody fuck your girl when you were serving as a supply monkey? Sucks to be you dude.

>>13762132
30-40k is pretty damn good for TE.

>>13762289
>Jody

Crowley?

>>13762477
You can always tell someone has no fucking idea about anime sales when they use the combined total.

None of the volumes without an event ticket sold over 5.5k. Considering we're talking about a robot anime that's pretty much treading water. Given there's minimal promotional value to ring out of it from a second season (only new releases are the manga adaption) it's just not appealing over doing something new.

Holy shit I'm ready to take back my gripes about the show's CGI.

It's a bunch of small isolated bits but the movement of the TSFs suddenly feels on the ball.

I mean it wouldn't wow anyone here since it's not high octane combat but they've got the taxiing aspect conveying the right mix of bulk and grace, good on them for a zero budget show.

Seriously, I'm fucking impressed.

>>13762602
>praising the show in this thread
I like it too anon, but VN/LNfags won't allow it.

>>13762606
It's going to be the same thing every week until they finally give up and drop the show.

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>>13762602
I agree, the CG aint so bad.

>>13762625
Holy shit that actually looked decent

>>13762602
It hasn't showed up on the English sites yet but Hiroyuki Taiga is still doing mechanical animation direction for Schwaken.

>>13762625
It's the moment you see the Fishbed swing its sword into mount that I pretty much jizzed my pants.

I mean I'll have to scrutinize that the hand didn't exactly convincingly twist the sword properly and instead had it magically rotate a few degrees without appropriate hand movement but otherwise the way everything moves and is visually portrayed has just the right amount of motion going on, and that stuff is borderline pornographic.

Remains to be seen if it's a fluke or not, but at least episode 2 will stand out as the one where they got things right, at least in my eyes.

>>13762532
You can always tell someone is autistic by a reply like yours. How much money do you think age or Kouki actually funded the TE anime project to Satelight in the first place if he has to go out of his way on his own twitter account the week before the last episode airs near Christmas time to say "Hey, its true we basically gave Satelight a shoestring budget".

5.5k a volume is fucking above average by today's market in any standard you throw at it.

>>13762602
CG in anime always looks wonky to me because of how choppy each movement is. Why is this always the case? Does it have something to do with the limit of frames everything gets animated in?

>>13762674
Sometimes it's just low FPS, others it doesn't mesh well with the 2D art and characters. I think SM has been doing pretty well with the latter at least, and decently with the former.

>>13762674
One school of thought believes that excessively smooth CGI clashes too strongly with regular animation, and that it's better to enforce a uniform framerate of sorts.

It's something to be evaluated on a per work basis, as it's not the framerate that matters so much as scene direction/composition.

Mind you, about a decade ago people would just as likely shit on CGI for looking too smooth because herp derp CGI a shit too videogamey MUH HAND DRAWN. It's arguably a more recent development that smoother = better with CGI, a retraction of the behaviors shown back in the Gonzo years.

>>13762648
Literally the only thing I would have changed would be maybe the camera shaking a bit when it first steps off its cradle.
Aside from that, for a series of this budget, its damn good.

>>13762654
>autistic
Ironic.

Shoestring budget is relative to the content. It was obviously a a cheap as shit robot anime but that doesn't mean it still didn't cost more to make per episode than something without tons of CGI and action sequences.

How the fuck do you think age has the money to just fund an anime on their own because? Why are you bringing up something four fucking years old like it has any relevance anymore?

>>13762674
artificial limitation, they have the same FPS as the standard non-cgi animation.

personally I can take CG animation being a bit stiff when it comes to robots/machines but it when it comes to human character it will always feel off to me, the new anime, Ajin, is a prime example of that

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>>13762690
>>13762674
Depends on the CGI studio in question and the director and the lead animator.

>>13762699
>relative to content
Prove that.

They couldn't even afford to pay Ono for most of his lines in the anime or the VN, you double-nigger.

>>13762700
Ajin is a Polygon project though and the thing with Polygon is that they're an acquired taste.

>>13762708
>>13762699
What's the excuse for the dated visuals and Nips calling SM a "early 2000s looking production" even though its only a single cour then?

>>13762717
Damn anon, that one nip anon's opinion really scarred you, huh?

>>13762752
Not him, but it's true. For a tangentially-related feeling, I got the same vibes from AgK. Both have this really "2000s" aesthetic, and not in a good way. You could pluck them out of time and drop them off in '04 and they wouldn't be that out of place. Even TE at least had a 'modern' feeling to it of its time, though a low budget one.

>>13762694
>>13762700

How does the process work? Are the cg animations done at literally the same frame rates as the hand drawn stuff? Or is it done at something higher and then blended with the 24fps-whatever frame rate non-cg animation?

>>13761217
Someone do the tab with gay sex with hats on.

>>13762773
What's up with the constant comparisons to AgK, even in stuff that's not even related to Beatrix or deaths? True that AgK had an early 2000s look, but I disagree about SM, it has a very unique look and color palette that's rarely seen in anime. And you're using nostalgia glasses for TE, I don't know where you got that "modern feeling" from.

>>13762752
I'm just asking because it seems to be a general consensus here on /a/, /m/, 2chan, and other parts of the internet when people talk about its visuals and animations.

It gives off a dated appearance with the character art style used for the adaption that doesn't help things. So is it another low budget adaption?

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>>13762796
What exactly is "very unique" about the art style or the color palette that makes it so rare in anime? Because I really really REALLY don't see this uniqueness to it at all for the visuals.

>captcha: radiant 2003

>>13762774
Hell if I know, I didn't watch Shake 'n Bake like the majority of people who pretend they know how the industry works.

But if I remember right, I think you can still render animations in 3d modelling programs as a series of individual images. If it were me, I'd pick and choose frames to go along with the drawn scenes, dropping a few to create the illusion of a lowered framerate. Or something.

>>13762810
Really? Tell me the last anime you watched that used lots of darker colors in a snowy setting like this.

>>13762708
How does that suggest they could afford a second season?

>>13762717
If you gave SM the same budget as a CGDCT show the character animation would inherently be cheaper (read shittier) to account for needing to budget for all the CGI action sequences.

That's why LN adaptions are so rarely ambitious since they can't get the money to do these sorts of more plot-centric complicated to animate source material well.

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>>13761674
Photoshopfag reporting, here you go Irisfags, now you have a shoop with her.

And here is the Pronhub page image if you are interested, I had fun faking it but unfortunately I couldn't keep it readable as I was processing it.

http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/2cbe/gdv72x9a1b0crf9zg.jpg

>>13761536
It currently has zero SEAL copypasta, and thus needs more.

>>13762773
Maybe for the drawn stuff but I really don't know where to put the CGI in light of episode 2.

And even in ep1 the CGI wasn't 2000's level.

I mean, there's a certain look to that shit. Very underdeveloped in the textures department.

>>13762831
>That image
11/10

>>13762824
>How does that suggest they could afford a second season?
How doesn't it? They more then broken even with TE in terms of revenue and returns with disc volume sales.

>>13762821
>darker colors in a snowy setting
Is that the crux of your rebuttal?

>>13762606
As long as you don't praise the story or forget to separate it from the VN/LN, it's fine.

>>13762821
Blastreitter and that's really nothing special

>>13762872
Blassreiter is about Kamen Riders in Germany, of course it'd have that look.

>>13762852
What rebuttal? I'm no artist or an expert on the matter at all, but it's pretty rare to see an anime's art take advantage of its unique setting like this. It has a genuinely great atmosphere/mood. Since you didn't provide any examples like I asked, I assume you just agree?

>>13762831
I wish there was more Wästernach stuff.

>>13762872
>2008 anime
>sci-fi in Germany
So, what you're saying is that it actually is pretty rare and unique?

>>13762831
>http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/2cbe/gdv72x9a1b0crf9zg.jpg
>no jellymura top gun incest
I'm disappointed, anon.

>>13762862
The story is actually pretty decent so far though, the pacing is just a tad too fast, and it's suffering most from one-dimensional antagonists (though they've barely appeared so far). That seems to be what source material readers have been complaining about anyway, they just get more pissy due to lack of faithfulness.

>>13762821
Guilty Crown, to an extent?

But then again GC was dark and vibrant in a different sense from SM's FATHER SNOW HAS COME TO VISIT KRAUTLAND look.

>>13762886
I actually took what came first and sexy enough in my ML folder, and Yui came up too late.

Besides I don't think I have an image with the two of them actually

>>13762876
Of looking like shit?

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>Retweeted by MLTeam
>" Psycho voiced by Yukarin and looks like GiTS’s Makoto. "
>Makoto

Go kindly fuck yourself, casual shit faggot.

If only ML could have never brought cancer in the community by getting animes.

>>13762904
Let's not say things we can't take back easily now...

>>13762926
It was a pretty bad anime. And this whole dumb sub argument about "unique dark colors for snow" is equally cringe inducing.

>>13762876
>>13762872
>ballswriter

A few months back we got a huge translation dump of interviews with Urobutcher and he was denying responsibility for that so hard (saying it was all Kawamori) it was hilarious.

>>13762936
LET'S NOT SAY THINGS WE CAN'T TAKE BACK EASILY NOW...

>>13762980
>Kawamori

Must've been some dank kush in his bowl, huh?

>>13762980
>Kawamori
Thought that was Itano.

>>13762982
That'd be nice for the whole "unique look" to the SM anime.

>>13762980
It was a hugely awful story, I'm not surprised both Gen and Kawamori are distancing themselves from it.

>>13762988
>>13763002
I meant Itano sorry

>>13763007
Too late, we're making it part of stoner Kawamori's lore.

Blastreiter was the Guilty Crown before Guilty Crown of anime

>>13762980
http://pastebin.com/LCRJigxy

>-(Upon the interviewer saying that Blasswreiter is "Urobuchi's Kamen Rider"): He says that when Itano came in, while he was still writing, he let Itano decide the entire setting and how things would go. Blasswreiter is thus Itano's ideal hero story, and so he thinks of it as "Itano's Kamen Rider". That the show was half Kamen Rider and half Ultraman was also Itano's doing. He thinks Itano wanted to do what he couldn't in Ultraman Nexus, and mentions how Itano complained frequently about how there's something wrong with Kamen Rider these days. Urobuchi's Joseph was originally a talkative guy, and it was Itano who changed the character into what he is.

>>13762834

>airforce

Fuck, for a moment I thought I would be seeing fighter-bombers.

TSFs are under Army jurisdiction.

>>13763040
The Air Forces of most nations were also generally subordinate to the Army before becoming its own independent branch. Like the US Air Force after WWII.

It's painful watching this given how silly everything is. Their strategy in every fight seems to be "stand there and get surrounded." Rockets do nothing but a single bullet from the mech will kill. The Stasi and the whole political situation is so laughably impossible. This show must have been written based on an outline they made when they were in elementary school with lots of cool sketches of mechs surrounded by bugs.

>>13763114
Stasi are assholes and masters of psychological exploitation.

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>>13763046
>Like the US Air Force after WWII
>not becoming their own separate branch immediately after WWI

>>13763114
I mean... the rocket hit the hand. I don't think that would kill a Tank. And the mechs have 36mm chainguns - that's nothing to laugh at.

Though this show is pretty silly. It's so melodramatic. You'd think East Germans trying to hold off an apocalyptic alien horde would be dramatic enough...

>>13763130
Stasi are stupidly evil.

how much more purple is yuuhi's hair

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>>13763370

>>13763046

Still an extremely misleading filename though.

To be fair to the .webm poster, I remember it being only mentioned in passing that the NVA has been rolled into one single command, since their air force no longer has any tactical fighters, the bombers are just flying trucks for explosives, they have no resources for a combined aerospace force, and what little plans they ever had for the Volksmarine has been all but abandoned in favor of keeping the Army functional.

By the time SM starts, the "armee" in the Nationale Volksarmee is probably literal.

I love how humanity can't unite despite war against BETA is desperate.
I heard if humanity in muv-luv world can unite, humanity can easily anihilate BETA.

>>13763810
People have these funny things called opinions. When the difference between your opinion being right or wrong is getting wiped out by aliens you take them a bit seriously.

>>13763812
It was apparent even in muv-luv alternative.
I love that foolishness.

>>13763810

I wouldn't say "easily", depending on what point in the timeline they "unite", but they sure wouldn't need to keep counterplanning against each other so much.

Like, say, using an entire military base as a free-for-all pie-flinging arena. How many sides were involved in Yukon? The normal Soviet/US militaries, the Soviet esper corps, the CIA, the UN armed forces, RLF, Allegiance, Master's faction?

>>13752765
>Oh man, she looks like a huge bit-
>Ear-boner detects Yukarin's voice
I pledge my loyalty to her

>>13763164

I thought they were still the US Army Air Corps until 1941?

Hey /m/ I have an off-topic question. Is the whole Muv-Luv series worth going into if I just like mechas but am ambivalent to all the love harem aspect?

>>13763958

Yes.

I'd say that if you went in the opposite way (ambivalent to mecha, liked love harem) you'd hate Muv Luv.

You only need to tolerate love harem aspects for the first 10% of the ride, then it's pretty much all MECHA

Bit disappointed how even though it's 20 years before Alternative and they're driving Eastern Bloc designs instead of American/Japanese designs the TSFs still look more or less the same on the inside.

I'd have hoped for example that the cockpits might be more cramped because they haven't had twenty years to miniaturize, they might use seatbelts instead of fancy back-mounted locks, the seats might be less ergonomic, the joysticks might be a different shape, they might have sound only communication instead of Skype because older radio equipment and heavy metal cloud interference limits bandwidth, the cockpit interiors might be painted a different color, and so forth.

>>13763961
>the first 10%
Try 40%.

>>13763986

You greatly overestimate how long Extra is.

Maybe if we're just talking about Extra and Unlimited, sure, 40%, but taking Alternative into account, Extra's bullshit is hardly 10% of the main series.

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>>13762512
> DAT image
oh god my fucking sides.

i never pass through that stage at all. any advice to clear lvl 3?

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>>13763980

If you want realistic Soviet Aesthic, the cockpit would be painted "THIS COLOUR WAS DESIGNED TO CALM YOU" teal and there would be a little fan for the pilot

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>>13764068

And trust me, I wish it was like this.

I fucking love that colour

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>>13764068

>THIS COLOUR WAS DESIGNED TO CALM YOU.

As ridiculous as this sounds, apparently this is why. Same reasoning for Douglas Aircraft on the DC-9 apparently.

>>13763980

Not to disagree, but you have to imagine that if they incorporated this--which would be nice--this might also suggest older (and possibly less fanservicey) pilot suits, which would be an issue I guess....

>>13762831
>>13762512
I love how Theo is sweating there

Why does the cute blond pilot always get abused? Jesus christ. First she get slapped so hard she falls to the ground, then she gets slaps and kneed then we have the mc straight up choke throw her.

Is this a fetish or something?

>>13763980
Y-you too?

The one thing I'd add as well is to regress the fortified suit to something still resembling a fabric flight suit. Maybe the plastiwrap technology would show up as an in-development advancement in g-suit harness technology as well.


There's a small shopping list of things that I'd love to retcon for flavor choice about Muv Luv during the early years of the Alternative timeline though.


>>13764419
Are you by chance implying good old fashioned flight suits aren't sexy?

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Anon, do you have Schwarzesmarken?
I'm lost link from mega.

>>13764577
I mean Schwarzesmarken OST.

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>>13764510

Actually, sexiness value aside, I'd vastly prefer that. And there is something about a woman in a well-fitted G-suit anyway. I just think you couldn't get away with it in Muvluv.

>>13763851
Yeah, then what were they after that? That's right, the ARMY Air Force.

>>13764497
She's a naive as fuck little shit who for some bizarre reason defected to East Germany. Of course everyone's covering their asses being mean to her. More than likely she could get you killed in wrong situation.

>>13765450

Did she really needed to be backslapped and kneed though. A stern talking to is enough.

>>13765471

You've never lived in a 1984-style dystopia, have you?

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>>13765559
But I'm in London!

>>13765471
>>13765559
Well, they've mixed three or four different much longer scenes from the VN together to create that scene. Actually, I thought it was pretty ingenious how they replaced Gretel slapping Katia with the later Sylwia beatdown while also incorporating Ketchup's intro together with Beato's even if I think a lot of the other anime original shit is complete nonsense.

>>13765665
Still enjoying it

>>13765833
It's like the Starship Troopers movie for me. Somewhat enjoyable on it's own but highly rage inducing for someone who's read the original.

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>>13763980
The fact every single TSF in the entire world in 2001 used the exact same cockpit should probably have told you how little intention they have of ever varying from it.

>>13764419
They are older pilot suits. Schwarzesmarken is aesthetically pretty much on par with what's in Chronicles Atonement 10 years later. (green HUDs, blockier pilot suits), which is maybe not totally unreasonable because 1983 is right at the tipping point where modern machines like Tomcats and MiG-23s are coming out and Schwarzesmarken are one of the entire Eastern Bloc's most elite units. If they were still flying craptraps they wouldn't live long enough to tell a story about.

>>13765842
>comparing a cut down version of the same story, setting, and basic designs to a random movie that had the name of a vaguely similar novel added to it
Come on be less dumb.

>>13765853
Alright, it's more like the Starship Troopers anime. Really, I was just putting down the first thing that came to mind.

>>13762831
Well, I got tweeted by a Degica Community manager, and RT by MLTeam.

Guess we have a CM around here then.

>>13765899
nothing new

>>13765902
I knew we had some important members of the ML community around here, but not a CM.

I hope he will listen if we have something to say on the english version then.

>>13765899
>not just assuming reddit reposters are here

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>>13765915
>listening to /a/
I oughta put you in a firing line, boy.

>>13765924
>/a/

You're on the wrong board, boy.

>>13765928
No, but all the shitposters in these threads anymore are.

https://twitter.com/MAUSpodcast/status/688900894814027776

Can someone tweet this guy telling him that Balalaika was a real nickname for the MiG-21 that even Wikipedia knows about? I can't be arsed to make a Twitter account just to tell someone off on planefag history.

>>13765968
>mobile suits
Why in the fuck do you think I should care?

>>13765934
You got a point here, it seems ML threads are not kept up on /a/ anymore.

I just hope there is always more of us /m/ans than /a/nons here.

>>13765968
If you are going to correct every fag on Twitter, you won't have enough of one life to do it.

>>13765990
/a/ Muv Luv threads are hell. They can be pretty good sometimes, but there's a lot of anime only faggots taking shits on TSFs, waifus, and the setting and story.

>>13765968
i read worse tweet, just ignore them

>>13765999
They are 10x worse when people who know nothing come in and settle down.

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>>13766182
I've read parts of the LN, and it just kills me when someone uses anime original content to bash either Irisdina or Beatrix.