/srwg/ Super Robot Wars General #808

I guess Sanbondo figured out people were looking at the data files to find shit out ahead of time, because a decent amount of the characters have placeholder in their sixth spirit slots.

RIP Marisa, her final spirit is Vigor.

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Teach me not to refresh a bunch of times before making a new thread. I was surprised I even got close, but that's timing for you

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Weird, I thought I'd taken a pic of this one before.

Alright, /srwg/, you've been approached by Wish Granter, the Grant who Grants Wishes. Wish Granter (You can call him Grant, but he insists you call him W.G.) states that he will let you choose any one main character mech to have a SRC made of it, and you even get one free of charge. It can even be a pre-upgrade unit, like the Dunbine. The stipulation? It has to be from a series that has been in a SRW title from the past three years. OGs also count.

So, what'll it be?

>>13742829
I wonder what her actual last spirit will be. Courage seems like the most probable option, but there are a few others that might conceivably work in that last slot.

Reimu, on the other hand, is very clearly going to get Soul.

>>13742851
SRX

>>13742851
Can't I wish for better wishes?

>>13742858
Yeah seriously, I'd rather have a job. A good one, with benefits and advancement opportunities.

>>13742851
Serious answer
Odyssea or Geminion Ray

Non serious answer
Better wishes

>>13742858
>>13742862

The fuck does Grant look like to you, your fairy godmother?
Fucking entitled baby fucks.

>>13742873
Well, maybe Grant should grow thicker skin and deal with the fact he provides one shitty-ass service.

>>13742853
It was all in the FMW2 data files. The final spirits of the protagonists are:
Reimu: Soul
Marisa: Courage
Sakuya: Zeal
Youmu: Soul
Sanae: Zeal

Fun Fact: Only two characters got Love (the fully heal everyone version): Keine and Alice.

>>13742851
Most of the applicable units are already in SRC

>>13742881
Marisa really should have had Love somewhere in her spirit set.

AG looks like he'd fit right in a megaman X game.

>>13742885
Alice is getting it, that's basically the same thing.

>>13742878
Maybe you should stop waiting for people to hand you things and do it yourself for a change.

>>13742901
They might eternally be in the same pair but its not the same thing.

I also swear that Alice used up her last spirit slot with Triumph.

>>13742905
Look, if you're gonna hand me out wishes, do it right.

>>13742829
Wow, forget the characters, literally /everything/ spoilerly has been scrubbed clean.

I mean I still have the initial data files from the first patch so I still know most of it, but that's pretty paranoid.

>>13742882
I hope SRC standing for the game and also the line of figures won't get confusing any time soon or some hilarious MISUNDERSTANDINGS is bound to happen

>MX portable
>55 stage
>9 mass-produced EVAs + Omzack + Gilgazamune
>all units start at 100-110 Will

ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

fuck you banpresto

>>13742885
Who does Marisa love?

Me

>>13742907
She's still just Mercy/Focus/Alert/Fury/Triumph.

>>13742926
MX's enemy density is a fucking joke (38/55 stages with less than 30 enemies), but that one takes the cake. And then shits on it.

Since I always give out SP Regen, I ended up using Yell and Rally a fuck of a lot of times.

In OGs OG1, do you keep the upgrades/kills/money from one story once you complete it and go onto the next? (kyosuke mode stuff carrying over to ryusei mode)

>>13742881
Wait, does that leave Sakuya with no damage multipliers? Wow, they really screwed her over in the later games.

>>13742885
Not really. The spirit is 愛, Marisa's stuff is all named with 恋. Two different things.

>>13742980
Upgrades and kills don't carry into NG+. If you switch protags, yeah, you get standard carryover on money (50/75/100; doesn't matter how much you bounce around) and PP uses the same percentage but the actual amount carried over is based on what you acquired in toto, and then is redistributed evenly across the entire cast and added to their base value.

>>13742989
Sakuya's supposed to have to Wrath or whatever its name.

>>13742989
I dunno, Marisa always felt like the type they'd sooner give Drive or something to in normal SRW.

Whatever, the distribution for spirits these days are pretty fast and loose. Even Love got on someone's spirit set because of family love and not actual lovey-dovey shit.

>>13743013
What the heck is that supposed to be?

>>13742980
You get 50% of your total money earned as cash, and 50% of the grand total of PP you earned from all pilots is distributed evenly to all pilots on top of whatever amount of PP they would get when they first joined on a fresh run. On the third time through this rises to 75%, on a fourth run onward it rises to 100%.

In OGs you can also carry over from OG1 into OG2, from 2 into 2.5, and from 2.5 back into OG1. I believe the percentage kept is based on how many times you've completed that particular part of the game, so it's most efficient to run through the whole thing as if it was one giant 100+ stage game.

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>>13743022
>Even Love got on someone's spirit set because of family love and not actual lovey-dovey shit.
That's hardly a new thing, though.

>>13743055
Kazuma was unfortunate to be born before Fire Emblem: Fates

>>13742881
>Youmu: Soul
It's going to be nice to see her throwing out big damage numbers again, after two games of mediocrity.
>Sanae: Zeal
Something tells me she won't get much use out of it, considering her damage spirit costs 95 SP.

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You know, with as much as I've been collecting and playing with SRC lately (and probably nearing the end of my fifteen minutes of notoriety now that I've gathered a majority of the content), I've been giving some thought to how the idea of SRC, with some refinement, could make for one of those "experimental" SRW games, like OE...except hopefully less likely to wind up with me as the only one who enjoyed it.

A game that focuses pretty much almost solely on content and graphics without a story, and perhaps different modes so that those who dislike the randomness could have a potential option to ensure they get series they like. Whether it'd be a base set of several series to begin with and some potential future DLC, or small batches of DLC given over a portion of half a year or so, until the licenses run out and the DLC is forced away, there would be tons upon tons of series and units included, alongside a bevy of OGs, and the graphics would be animated as top-tier as possible, whether that means a certain animation style or animation variants either between terrains like Z, or something like making even small upgrades change animations, like having Mazinger Z have a different animation for Rocket Punch depending on whether he has the Scrander or not.

It would also be a good way to include stuff that has potential difficulty going into SRWs where they're attempting a coherent story, whatever kind of series those might be.

Yeah, I know it's probably a terrible idea, but it's nice to imagine a reality where that sort of thing was a possibility.

>>13743086
I want a new SRW with the replay value of randomness SRC has
and with an english translation of menus since there's no story anyway
or somebody just making SRC translated would be nice too

>>13743058
He doesn't need incest ending though, remember? He has HIS OWN CLONE.

>>13743086
I had an idea for something like that once, you know. It was basically just that.

>Deal 20,000 damage to Linebarrel
>It instantly regens 16,000 back
Fucking hell Kouichi

>>13743033
x1.2 damage for a turn, no crits.

If someone has Wrath, that is basically the game slapping you upside the head and telling you to build them as a Support Attacker.

>>13743086
If it wasn't for console jumps requiring an "upgrade" in graphical quality, doing a game like this after building up a collection of sprites from the other "mainline" SRW games would be the perfect time.

Though I think that still probably tops out at around... let's say 100 units or so. Only a fan-game could get away with including like 500 units in one game even if we do it through slowly adding DLC

>>13743033
Guaranteed crits for a turn.

It's not particularly useful in practice, unfortunately. A 20% damage boost is nice enough, but most of the people who learn it already have high crit chances, and it's expensive enough that it's usually not worth using against grunts. So it basically ends up being a bootleg Triumph that costs more SP and doesn't affect both members of the pair.

>>13743112
I thought that was translated to Fighting Spirit or something.

Damn SRW and the ever-changing Spirit Command names

The decryption method works for the FMW4 demo too, but there is jack shit there beyond the game script.

I guess that means a translation LP for FMW4 is possible now too but ahahaha no.

>>13743138
Text size limits are a bitch, what can you do.

If you include the unused spirits, FMW will have Rage, Wrath, and Fury as distinct spirits.

>>13743127
True, though if you limit it mostly to main characters, that still could make for a potentially large amount of series to include and animations to put in. Recall that in my fantasy idea, we're imagining a SRW with series in excess of what OE had, and graphics level of 2nd OGs. (I guess that would be the best example of "good" animation in the series. I don't hear as many complaints for that style as there are for Z3's and BX's)

And much as people hate the concept, certain team-up attacks the series are known for could be "summon" moves. You could get away with stuff like maybe the Shuffle Alliance as their own units with attacks, but say something like Rom's combo with Jet, that's more understandable to turn into a combo-summon.

>>13743104
If my genderbent clone was a 10/10, I'd fuck me.

>>13743172
But would your clone want to fuck you?

>>13743189
Wouldn't matter.
I'd have my way.

>>13743189
Since I'd fuck me, then yes my clone would fuck me

>>13743202
Your clone could have standards, you never know.

>>13743264
I want to date someone's clone and somehow end up in love and married to both the clone and the original via romantic comedy hijinks

Alright everyone post the top aces from your current SRW play through.

Arnie - 195
Shinn - 96
Joe - 90

>>13743366
OG 3

Ryusei : 651
Excellen : 550
Ibis : 540

>>13743395
>OG3
you holding out on us, anon?

Huh, that's interesting, apparently Dai Sword Integral and Dancouga BURN have a combo attack, according to the game data.

...Another shared connection like the Iczer/Dangaioh combo I never knew about?

>00 Season 2 finale stage in Z2
I don't think I've had a unit jump 250 kills in one stage before.

>>13743573
Cobray jumped from 100 something to 400 or so in a single stage back in Alpha 3.
It was in stage 41 I think.

Coud kill like 10 squads per turn with Meth Asher counters, so, 30 units per turn at the bare minimum.
It was amazing.

>>13743568
Both are Hasegawa mangas, so they have a combo.

>>13743625
Makes sense, I figured it had to be something like that, though is there an actual instance of that combo like the voice drama stuff, or just fans taking it to the logical next step? I wouldn't be surprised if it all stemmed from a one-off drawing the author did.

Reading up on the mecha data itself in the files is kind of interesting, what with all the stuff that's omitted or being purposely(?) kept out. Vandread takes a decent chunk of text showing off a lot of...something.

It also showed me that a few mecha gain attacks from ranking up the machine's stats, much like the ones that learn some new moves from pilot levels. Gundam gaining the Hyper Hammer and Super Napalm, and Red Baron gaining an extra attack so far are the only examples I see of it, though.

My moon only goes so far, so if there's a clue to what I'm missing with Chirico and GaoGaiGar, I can't find it. This is irritating to an endless degree.

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>>13743366

>>13743625
>mangas
don't do that

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>>13743366

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>>13743366

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>>13742851
Demonbane.

>tfw no die-cast laserknees
>even though they'd make the toy topple over

>>13743366
Shinn 0
Luna 0
Kazuli 0

>>13743967
>Kazuli
Kazuki

>>13742851
Brasta

So let me get this straight.
Zhuge Liang has the ability to boost power by 10% on the players turn, gives all deployed units Ignore Size and bumps up their terrain ranks?
This seems awfully unbalanced.

>Two games with Unicorn's story.
>Still no prologue style stage with Stark Jegan vs Kshatriya.

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>>13744058
>This seems awfully unbalanced.

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>see PV for Endless Frontier 3
>Holy shit, Haken and Aledy and motherfucking Axel
>wake up

>>13744058
Well it IS Zhuge Liang. As far as fictional tacticians go he's always been incredibly bullshit. They're just reflecting it in gameplay.

A shame, too. He's so good some of the others have legitimately amazing effects (Soushi removes evasion decay, for god's sake) but end up just shit in comparison. And then BX went kinda lazy and gave two thirds of your tacticians "damage bonus against [enemy from character's show]", probably to avoid pulling the same thing again.

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>>13744077
Need more Kyosuke

>>13744145
I'm not complaining.
I'm loving all of the S Ranks.
Although from the way you and others talk about BX it sounds inferior to UX is that true?

>>13744145
I enjoyed the "damage bonus against X" stuff, at least it gave each Tactician their time to shine.

>>13744156
>Although from the way you and others talk about BX it sounds inferior to UX is that true?
Eh. It did things better, it did things worse. BX's basically the 3DS's L, solid but not really exceptional.

>>13743927
Z3 Twin S.Cannon spoiled the hell out of me.
In Z it was barely usable,Carris in G-Falcon with Zeal was kinda nice though.

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Ibis game when

>>13744171
Z3's the first time since freaking R that the DX has been honestly excellent. Most of the time the TSC is just too complicated to use for not enough advantages over other finishers.

>>13744192
2003

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>>13744196
>super robot kusuha wars 2
>ibis game

>>13744196
How does it work on Z3?

>>13744227
No Moon Charge Time

Why is Soushi with Eden now?.
Also what the fuck is Edens deal?

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>>13743366

>>13744227
A big solid 3x10ish line followed by a single line to the end of the map, and no charge time. Hence why he has 444 kills in my pic, I was really surprised how many he racked up after 1 playthrough.

>>13742881
Sanae and Sakuya getting Zeal might actually be interesting if it weren't for the spirit getting a nerfbat in FMW4.

At least Youmu will actually have a niche again for dropping big finishers, that is unless Soul costs something silly. Since last I checked Sakuya, Youmu are amongst the bottom echelons for SP bases along with Reimu.

Sanae is the only human with a good SP base but she has a 95SP Miracle she also wants to use.

ware koso waaa

>>13744206
You might as well call the Alpha games "The Kusuha Trilogy".

Can you not stop the Goma in it's tracks on the last Gravion stage? I'd like to say fuck the SR point and just kill everyone, but it seems as if this thing will just move right past your units.
>>13744171
>In Z it was barely usable,Carris in G-Falcon with Zeal was kinda nice though.
Yeah, when I get back on Setsuko's route, I think I'm just going to have Garrod be a squad member. I just can't get any good use out of this guy because he doesn't have anything inbetween a beam saber and this awkward to use finisher.

The Sattellite Cannon needs to be extremely powerful if we're going to have it be this big of a hassle.
And damnit, I'm getting tired of that empty line in it's MAP attack

>>13744237
>A big solid 3x10ish line followed by a single line to the end of the map, and no charge time.
You're saying good things to me right now.

>>13744244
>Can you not stop the Goma in it's tracks on the last Gravion stage? I'd like to say fuck the SR point and just kill everyone, but it seems as if this thing will just move right past your units.
Nope, like you noticed - the movement is forced.

That being said - if you're playing without limitations, more than enough time to kill the shit out of everything and still get the SR point

>>13744247
So even if you block it on all four sides, it'll just blow right past you?

>>13744267
Yes, it's forced

>>13744243
SRW Alpha 4 Kusuha Returns when?

>>13744244
>not getting the G-Bits

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>>13744292
One day.

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>>13744340
What's wrong with her...everything?

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>>13743366
What if the game stops counting kills at 50?

>>13743366
Marisa 187
Reimu 175
Sanae 128

Yeah, pretty much what I expected. The only way you're keeping Marisa out of that top slot is if you're on Reimu's route. And even then, she still has a good chance at it.

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>>13744235
What a monster.

How strong is Shin Ryukooh/Kouryuoh compared to the other Banpresto originals?

>>13744363
Stronger than everyone
Inferior to Exexexbein-Omega-X

>>13744370
Ing Exexexexebein can combine with Amala's Huckebein Evil?

>>13744156
>Although from the way you and others talk about BX it sounds inferior to UX is that true?

More or less. BX's only real achievements are improving the sprite quality and the UI. Most of everything else is inferior.

It still astounds me that BX is buggier than UX.

>>13744349
She won't get second/third until like 3 on the other route.

>>13744168
At least BX has 15 upgrades.

>Play-Asia claims that they'll translate Tengoku to celebrate the finale
>Only ever amounted Menu TLs, Spirit Commands, and SR Point Reqs

I laugh every time.

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Which Ship shall I get?

>>13744563
Is the third one an OG ship?

Because it doesn't look familiar at all.

>>13743366
Z2
Brasta
Deathscythe
Daitarn 3
Scopedog
That truck bot from Xabungle
It could be different as I'm on a the last route split.

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>>13744168
>BX's basically the 3DS's L,
So UX is K?

>>13744580
Considering people think UX is better than BX, I guess not

>>13744567
Oceanus from Zegapain.

>>13744586
>剣神天叢雲剣
Holy mess of kanji, Batman.
Apparently, it's... that mech from Kannazuki no Miko?

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>>13744603
Apparently, yeah. It's still one of the only mecha I've got a screen of that I haven't got a name for. Though last night I learned I could sift through the robot data text file to find hiragana versions of all the machine names, so there's that.

>>13744586
I hate how the don't do sprites of mechs head only,but also entire body,making it a complete mess.
That should be exlusive only to human sized units like Jumborg Ace right there.

>>13744580
Probably something between W and L. Call it half of W or just U.

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>>13744613
It's community based, so I suppose it's pretty unavoidable. I mean, at least for a good chunk of them they actually have a sprite, there's a few in the game that still have yet to get a mech sprite or even a pilot face graphic.

>>13744624
post that Gunbustar

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>>13744632

>>13744624
Is that Banpreios on the top right?

>>13744613
I got to say, I think full-body icons are cooler and hope Banpresto adopts that one day.

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>>13744634
Yup.

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>>13744563
Archangel.

GUNDAMU

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>>13744659
MOEAGARE

MOEAGARE

MOEAGARE

GANNNNDAMUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>13744342
She's having some fun, Kai anon.

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>>13744663
I like you anon
THE SONGS STUCK IN MY HEAD HOW DO I GET IT OUT

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>>13744668
She's warping her body at White Devil's levels.
>>13744675
>HOW DO I GET IT OUT
You don't, it's like Frying the Sky, TAAAAAAAAAAKAKU HABATAKEEEEEEEE
OOZORA WO DOKOMADEMOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>13744342
Artist is bad, so don't worry, it's not just you

>>13744675
>>13744684
That's the sign of a good song.

The fact that you can still heard it even after hearing it.

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>>13744693
In my case, it's this guy that gets stuck in my head.

Stupid question I know but is there a way to have some of SRC's options in english?
or is there some quick translation of the images I can save?
I mean most of you know japanese probably so it's no big deal to you guys but I have no idea what I'm doing in SRC or which recruiting mode I'm on

>>13744711
Mostly figured stuff on trial and error.
スタート3 Custom.eve is the one you want to start when you open the game.
I'm sure someone posted an pic of what main menu does

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>>13744711
Posted this in the last topic, I'll do more when I get the free time.

Most people play "Start3.eve", which is Cross Mode.

Start1.eve = Original
Start2.eve = Plus Mode

>>13744711
There should be a post somewhere in the last thread that shows off a translation of the main menu at the least, if that would help. The SRC pastebin also has a few things like attack properties being shown off.

Other than that I don't think there's been any translations of anything else. If it were possible I'd love to start chronicling this stuff and translating it to the best of my abilities, with help from those more in the know about kanji, but that would be a big endeavor for a fan-based thing only a handful of people would play, and I wouldn't know where or how to begin.

>>13744738
If Tuhou Taisen could get an Akarasu Page I don't know why we can't have one for SRC, all we need to do is find out when the engine first came out and add it to Akurasu.

>>13744691
I enjoy the artist's work, but that looked like one of his earlier works.

The latter ones do look better off.

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>>13744737
Some other menu translation stuff I was doing for an older project when I was dumb enough to try to make OG stuff in SRC

>>13744755
I like Funky Harem enough to have bookmarked his Pixiv, but I agree with you. His more recent stuff is better.

>>13744773
What's his Pixiv?

>>13744780
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=1042026

>>13744753
That'd be nice, but Touhou does still have more fans to actually care about having a page about it. Aside from that, gathering the details would definitely be a big endeavor. Not to mention keeping up with the updates that change things around a little each time.

I suppose there's stuff you could probably just transplant directly from the files of the game itself, but I once tried that in the hopes of looking up all the special abilities of different mecha, since a lot of machines have special abilities attached to them or their attacks that are worth a glance (even if a lot of them are basically just similar barriers with different names and costs/reductions), but there doesn't seem to be a database for that stuff anywhere I can find in the files.

Not to say I wouldn't probably be obsessive enough to take pictures of every ability in question, but again, that would require somebody else to care enough to help me. Not to mention I'm apparently crap enough at paint that I can't do much more than take screens of units; I couldn't figure out how to even properly attempt to make a collage of the Getters I have for the sake of those who were asking about their differences.

>>13744787
Cheers.

I might make a Pixiv account again someday.
I did have one once, even had a few art uploaded, but I deleted it for personal reasons.

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>>13744789
The actual SRC Engine Manual itself has a database of all possible Pilot/Mech abilities, if you want to read through that 2mb tome

SRC music is pretty neat
There that one that sounds like it's from Megaman

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>>13744734
>>13744737
>>13744761
thank you this should be more than enough for me to play this!
Someone should add these to the pastebin just for a bit more ease of use.
Thanks alot guys!
Is there anything for spirit commands?
That's like the only thing non dialogue related left to translate really right?

>>13744840
oh and items too I suppose

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Still wonder what's up with the proto-Duke here.

>>13744870
Uchuu Enban Daisenso I guess?

>>13744870
Yup, that's Gattaiger from Uchuu Enban Daisensou, the pilot movie to Grendizer.

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Stage 10 is where bosses have massive HP.
Your team also divided into 2,this is the 2nd time I got an Inspector boss at stage 10.

>>13744895
Starting from 10, every 5th stage had a boss fight against one of the Inspectors (they're randomized every playthrough, but you can't switch them by restarting that mission). Haven't finished Cross yet, but I suppose the final boss is Wendolo.

Incidentally, it's around this time that bosses stop running away at 50% HP.

>>13744875
>>13744888
Huh, never knew about that.

>>13744895
>>13744910
Yeah, the final stage is actually a gauntlet of around 30 of your guys vs. a whole host of boss-level enemies as the mooks, plus the Inspectors you've fought before, all at once. Once you strike down Mekiboss, everything goes to space (with no recovery on your part, of course), and you have to deal with Wendolo, Shu, and Irui Ganeden all at once.

(And you have to beat Irui to win, smacking down someone while she's around results in an instant full recovery for them.)

>>13744521
Anyone using his brain could tell it was a plot to sell more copies.
In my opinion the main problem with SRW is that most of the fans are genuine kids or act like kids. Then because most of the fans are like that, they brag about the series, and it has been mystified and made to be look like as if it's super complicated and convoluted "you'll never get it unless you're into Japanese things for 20 years" kind of thing. That's also why the fanbase doesn't grow in numbers, and there isn't any individuals or small groups of really big rich neets with time to waste to translate the games.

Apparently the VVV shitposter got rangebanned from /m/ because now he's got a thread up on /a/.
And he still samefags the shit out of it.

>>13744977
Funny, that thread got zero bites yesterday.

>>13744984

I think we're all pretty much past VVV at this point.

I still kinda like the mech designs.

>>13744244
There was a cheat to make the TSC useful in Z, but changing the range of the map version isn't as easy.

I think a modified ISO of Z did that along with a few other things, but it also threw the balance off by making all units way more powerful.

>>13744999
Gothic-tinged vampire bullshit should be a staple of October /m/, you must accept this.

9 months remain.

>>13745001
So we're gonna talk about Castlevania on October are we?

>>13745001
You'd think, but Iron Leaguer apparently isn't an /m/ staple during sports seasons.

>>13745010
Give me mecha horse centaur guy thing from OOE and idgaf, just make it spoopy.

>>13745001
Is Hellsing close enough? It has airships.

>>13744920
>Huh, never knew about that.

Knowledge is half the battle, anon.

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>>13745075
Playing SRC certainly has introduced me to a lot of mecha (and pseudo-mecha) I'd never heard about, that's for sure.

>>13745090
Look at this guy, he wants to be cool.

>>13744975
>Zanda Cross
This reminds me that Yojigen got nabbed by the sub ninjas a while back. Which is a huge shame, because no one else is doing the modern Doraemon episodes.

>>13745090
not gonna lie it's a tad overwhelming
I mean
I'm still finishing gundam 0079 here
so I recognize hardly anyone ever

>>13745101
Don't worry, man. We all start off slow. But then, over time, you'll watch more and more /m/ stuff, and soon you'll look at pictures like that and go "ooo, I know most of this picture!"

>>13745106
Blatant lies. I've watched maybe ten /m/ shows max, and I recognize everything in >>13745090

>>13745106
Assuming years of lurking here hasn't taught you how to recognize things at a glance without being familiar with their source material.

I swear I know more mecha than I've actually seen in my life.

>>13745116
I know I do, and it's a great feeling. All the reward with none of the effort.

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Well, I definitely need to attach a better wing set on this guy. Just took him through a stage, and his post-movement attack costs him 1,000 HP a usage.

>>13745106
That is a pretty good feeling.

When you see a list of mecha and can recognize each of them.

>>13745112
>>13745116
You've watched more /m/ stuff, and now you look at pictures like that and go "ooo, I know most of this picture!"

I haven't been proven wrong. At no point did I say you needed to watch the series to know them, hell, I still haven't watched most of Gundam and I still recognize all but the really obscure stuff.

>>13745181
Just accept you've been proven wrong. I know you're almost as pigheaded as you are stupid and annoying, but still.

Now I just want to sat that DM Beats are very annoying for me to fight, as I have to keep spending to make sure that Reals can dodge.

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WAIT

>>13745235
That's really just in Hakai since they get up to +24 base targeting, have predict, ignore size difference (so no accuracy penalties) and mid-level prevails.
Hakai just feels like you're running an army of glass cannons most of the time. I tend not to use the supers because their EN costs are all over the fucking place.
50 EN for Dankuuken? Fuck you.
75 EN for Thunder Flash? That made sense in Z1, since it was an all, but now it costs EVEN MORE?

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>>13745260
in the gundam 0079 intermissions it always sounds like they're saying Char

Well, I made an attempt at comparing all the final Getter forms SRC has, but it's a rough-shod Paint job consisting of two mismatched columns of four. I don't know if that kind of thing shows well here (since I've never been active on /m/ until recently).

>>13745266
>50 EN for Dankuuken?

OVA accurate for once.

>>13745277
Just post it you baby

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>>13745260
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtBKAXqyv5A
>>13745266
>Hakai just feels like you're running an army of glass cannons most of the time.

I guess you could say that playing Hakai is always a Close Game Life-だぜ

行くぜスピゴット!

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>>13745301
B-But anon, it's such a scary prospect, to fail in front of my fellow /m/en!

Well, here we go, shitty Paint powers incoming.

>>13745304
Debtman please.

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>>13745266
Yeah this is screwing me over when you have to kill the Hetrodyne with Dai Guard as they all target it. Now if you excuse let me release my anger Greentext style.
> Orguss literally praying for RNG Jesus
> Red ones screw with you on the range attack by faking a dodge.
>D shields
>Margurite is a pushover compared to the larger green one.
> They never fight with other enemies unlike the Getter foes.
>mfw that pale guys smirk appears.

Do not snore Festums.

>>13745350
>>D shields
D Faults are literally worthless unless you're running a NUR though, they're a 1500 nullification barrier

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>>13745350
>>mfw that pale guys smirk appears.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQjiX5KI9WE

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>Finally I got Eldora V in SRC
>Valor/Yell
>Valor/Yell
>Valor/Yell
>DREAM

>playing through first stages of UX
>heroman and demonbane characters hang out with each other a lot for no particular reason at all, despite them being completely unrelated with no real connection or series similarity between them

I can already tell how shit the writing for the rest of the game will be.

>宇宙戦艦ヤマト
>宇宙円盤大戦争
>星銃士ビスマルク
>B-WING
>ツインビー
>覇王大系リューナイト
>マクロスプラス
>魔法騎士レイアース
>リアルロボットレジメント
>スーパーロボット大戦IMPACT
>OVERMANキングゲイナー
>第2次スーパーロボット大戦α


Well, this is an interesting cast list so far.

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>>13745312
you forgot the best Getter

>>13745496
JOEY AND KUROU

FRIENDS

FOR NO REASON

>>13745496
Aren't they both in America?

>>13745537
Literally on opposite sides of the country though.

And only the deranged and easily amused dare venture to that Lovecraftian hellhole that is New England.

>>13745537
>>13745509
Real talk though the animations are definitely not as shit as I remember watching them on youtube a few years ago.
Shit looks 10x better with the 3D on, on an actual 3DS screen.

>>13745496
Can you wait to play as Will?

>>13745549
Yeah, though some animations are still kinda... You'll get SKL pretty soon.

>>13745549
Some attacks in UX and BX do some neat tricks with the 3D. The SD Gundam stuff in BX looks fantastic with 3D on, Falsaber looks a lot better too.

>>13745357
Prevail's defense bonus makes them a pain for reals early on.

>>13745549
Yeah, the shining lights are the Infinite Justice and Strike Freedom's animations.

Same person who did the good AGE animations.

>>13745549
UX does still have a bunch of bad apples, even if there's a lot of good stuff, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T77nUFFiMhM

Overall, though, I'd say that I actually prefer UX's animation style to BX's in general. BX had a lot of really floaty and weird-looking stuff, like GaoGaiGar or Raijinoh.

>>13745737
Same, honestly.

BX's idea of good animation is shambling schizophrenic messes that slide around the screen at mach 10.
Everybody, SD Gundam guy included, needs to take a look at AGE guy.

>>13745737
I'm hesitant to say the Skrugg are 100% at fault, since they were sort of awkward in the show... But that's well beyond "sort of."

>>13745549
>Shit looks 10x better with the 3D on, on an actual 3DS screen.

Keep in mind that most people watch YT in 480/720/1080p. The 3DS ia what...240? That shit isn't meant to be stretched

>>13745747
Wizard Nu still looks fucking great in every animation at least, even if you dislike the SD group's animations. Gigafan's one of my favorites in the game.

Shame he comes so goddamn late.

>>13745747
The SD Gundams are definitely more of a mixed bag than some people claim, but there are still some gems in there. FA Knight Gundam's animation comes to mind.

>>13744711
Most people here don't know Japanese. They might know the hiragana and katakana and know some random kanji, but there's very few fluent or even proficient speakers here.

So I'm guessing true SD, with the exception of actual SD Gundam stuff, is gone from SRW at this point.

Because ever since Jigoku, they seem to be staying in the direction of semi-SD where the proportions are much closer to accurate, but it's just shrunk down.

What the hell happened to Arnie during the timeskip?

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>>13745779
It's still SD, just a more detailed one.

>>13745779
OG still looks pretty much the same as OGs.

I really wish the other games would go back to the L/Z1 proportions or figure out a way to make the new ones look less awkward soon, cause christ there's some real stinkers in the goddamn idle poses even if the animations are fine.

>>13745794

If you mean 2nd OGs, that has the excuse of being made before.

>>13745779
It's just that the proportions have changed. Focus was usually placed on making the parts as "forearms, legs, feet, head, torso+waist, maybe shoulders". Now it's "forearms, shoulders, biceps, legs, thighs, feet, head, torso, waist."

>>13745779
And they're all the worse for it.

It's pretty obvious true SD is where their talents and skills lie.

>>13745794
>I really wish the other games would go back to the L/Z1 proportions
As long as we don't go back to Alpha 2/3's level where Genesic GGG might as well be a Rayman with how close to the torso its hands and feet are.

>>13745784
He sat down in a dark room and watched black and white samurai movies for that entire period without rest.

Is it worth it to feed Richard kills at all? I know that he kicks the bucket and gives his unit to Arnie some time in the story.

Same with Saya - her unit just combines to form the final OG upgrade right? Should I avoid using them at all early and just give the exp to other units?

>>13745779
At this rate I won't be surprised if they eventually reach Shin levels of proportions.

>>13745822

You mean what Masoukishin has always done?

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>>13745794
> cause christ there's some real stinkers in the goddamn idle poses

People gave Z3 shit for stuff like this, but I'd rather have this so much more than what artistically amounts to a bind pose, like in BX.

>>13745826
That's different. There's no reason to change proportions because most shit in MK is the same size.

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>>13745807
Some of the new stuff in @3 had proprotions a lot closer to the later PS2 games, but yeah I don't wanna go back to full @2 proportions. I agree that Z1/OGs/DS game proportions looked the best

>>13745819
Dump some money into her.
Because until Arnie and Saya reach 120 Will you can't gattai.
Which is really fucking stupid by the way

>>13745819
Not really for Richard, considering he leaves really damn early.
It's alright for Saya, though you should probably reconsider your playstyle if "feeding X character kills" is within your playbook.

>>13745827
>People gave Z3 shit for stuff like this
Hunching Quanta was dumb but still not that bad.
Harute FM's sprite was the one that was fucking stupid.

Since we're all on a bit of a discussion of animation, what is everyone's favorite bit of animation in SRW? Your favorite attack, the one you think is best animated or just looks the coolest, etc.

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>>13745884
Why?

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>>13745886

>>13745886
Twin
Valkyrie
Maneuever

https://youtu.be/LEOTkoM1iIo?t=352
I didn't even watch Frontier

>>13745886
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgL53YfFzcM
Model kit never.

>>13745819
Unless you want to fuck the level curve, you're going to need to get exp with Saya until probably stage 21-24, which is when you'll have more than 20 people who aren't battleship captains counted in the level average. Kaidou and Magami both count (since they have stats), but Soushi, Cham, and Elebos don't (because they're statless).

>>13745913
I don't know why, but the gold border on the screen makes this attack a thousand times cooler.

>>13745836
>though you should probably reconsider your playstyle if "feeding X character kills" is within your playbook.

Unless it's for secrets or maximizing Ace efficiency in a first run. (Especially important in UX/BX)

>>13745886

Even though it's from Z3, in recent years it would be Zeta's waverider attack

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>going through BGM list of BX
>no Disc X

>>13745957
The only thing wrong with Z3 Waverider is that they didn't add more of window between changing and impact. Other than that, it's boner inducingly smooth.

>>13745964
I don't think we're ever gonna get half of the entire show's soundtrack in any game but W anon. Unfortunately.

>>13745886
Just The O from Z1 in general.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlo9q12LmqA

https://youtu.be/HtGi2BKIf2o

Now that the dust has settled, can we finally agree that UX is shit?

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Can you see the radiance of her life?

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>>13746051
Shorts > *

>>13746051
MY COSMOS IS SHINING!

>>13745794
2ndOG's sprites are mostly HD redraws of OGG's, though. Aside from a few new cutins in places, most returning units use all the same choreography for their animations that they had before. I think only Alteisen, SRX, Cybuster, Dygenguar and RyuKoOh got complete animation overhauls.

>>13746065
That doesn't change anything about the proportions, which is what the whole discussion was about.

>>13746051
I can see it, but I need to feel it to confirm its presence.

>>13746072
This anatomy is horrifying.

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>>13746065
I am always going to wonder why they redrew the unit that's getting wrecked next game.

>>13746092
It's the company mascot. Kyosuke is presented as Ryusei's equal, so he gets a redraw, Masaki's the star of the EX section so he gets one, Ryune doesn't because Valsione gets upgraded to Valsione R and gets a total redraw from that, and Sanger and Kusuha get ones because Alpha 2. Arado doesn't because hahaha fuck Arado.

>>13746085
Out of curiosity, is there any official art of what Geminion Rei looks like from the back? I've got a theory about it that I'd like to have a good view to check.

>>13746102
The PB scans would have it, if it exists.

>>13746092
Mascot and MC privileges

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>>13745886

>>13746092
I don't even care if the R-1 is getting blown the fuck up in the next game, I really wanted a full redraw of it in 2nd OG's. The OG's sprite looks like shit, and it still looks like shit in HD.

Maybe well get lucky, and the next game has the R-1 Custom with a new sprite.

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>>13746136
Hold out for the AR-1, anon. Hold out.

Actually, anyone want to take bets on Ryusei getting the R-Blade Custom while his psychic powers are fucked up or there being a new unit?

>>13746136
Considering we got the R-Blade custom early, maybe Ryusei will spend early game in an R-1 Custom before upgrading to the AR-1 and banpreios

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>>13746107
Actually, I can get a decent look at it from the sprites. This one in particular is interesting, with the way it looks like there's a section that locks over the torso to make it taller, and the arms have the same way they interlock with the upper arms that Genion had.

My guess is they saved a feature for each of the Sphere mechs for when they inevitably retell this story in OG. Virgola's got the combination attack with the other Glory Stars, Gunleon's got Cielo as a third subpilot, Librasta's got upgrading from the test-type Trial to the finished Final or whatever, Esther's got her DAMON stuff, and Geminion's got the ability to transform into a fourth form.

>>13745889
> Thumbnail looks like some sort of mecha sea lion crossed with a Pokemon
Well okay.

>>13746157
I think you're reaching pretty hard.

>>13746164
Looks like Harute FM to me.

>>13746157
>Geminion's got the ability to transform into a fourth form.
It already had that in Z3. We only saw it as a head icon since it never fought, but Geminion did briefly have another form when it first appears (before Hibiki turns it into Geminion Ray). The head looked similar to the Chaos Lemures, and its body was likely configured somewhat like Genion GAI.

Off topic but post number ending in 9 decides what I name my chocobo in ffxiv
Rules are the name has to be /m/ related

>>13746193
Archibald

>>13746193
Ibis

>>13746193
Leokaiser

>>13746186
Well, fifth form if we count the one where it was like Chaos Lemures. I would guess that we might get to see that in action if AG's a little more proactive about taking control of it, but I was of the impression that transforming from Geminion to Geminion Rei wasn't a physical transformation like Genion to GAI is.

>>13746193
KORE DE

>>13746193
Aguila

>>13746193
Trombe

>>13746209
Holy fuck

>>13746206
>Well, fifth form if we count the one where it was like Chaos Lemures

Anon literally mentioned that in the post you quoted.

>>13746209
I approve

>>13746206
It's unknown whether it was a physical transformation or not, but it wouldn't be surprising for that to be the case. Considering the role GAI had in AG's plan, it would make sense for it to be similar to Geminion. And if the base Geminion is similar to GAI, then it wouldn't have trouble transforming into the Genion-like configuration of Kung Fu Granzon.

>>13746209
Good luck getting that fucker's feathers to turn black, it was a way bigger pain than I expected.

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>>13746209
>black and red chocobo

>>13746221
I could always just dye my armor black and red for the time being

>>13746229
It can fly and cast Choco Meteor. Truly a nightmare bird.

>>13746298
> flying Chocobos
You do not know the terror you have unleashed!

>>13746298
>>13746305
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEUOOgNzOv4

>>13746314
God, XIII-2 was such a better game than the other two.

>>13746321
Well I mean plot wise I'd say XIII was better

>>13746329
What? No, hell no. XIII's plot consists entirely of the heroes repeatedly saying they're not going to do the thing, they refuse to do the thing, all while making no effort whatsoever to avoid doing the thing. Snow has the excuse that he's an idiot, but Lightning is allegedly smart and makes all the same stupid decisions.

>>13746193
YOU NAME HIM FALSE FEELS

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT FFXIV

FALSE
FEELS

IT IS NOT THE FATAL FEELS THAT ONCE WAS.

LOST TO THE AGES BY THE DREADED YOSHI-P, IT HAS BEEN DELEVELED INTO AN OBLIVION KNOWN ONLY TO PUPPETMASTERS AND DRAGOONS OF YORE.

ALL
HAIL
TANAKA

THE TRUE PRODUCER OF FF MMO.

>>13746344
Oh there you are VF.
What is your opinion on Arnie?

>>13746344
At least FFVII is finally getting that remake.

>>13746339
XIII is the most Japanese dorama story and I actually kinda fucking love it when it's on full steam.

Dickass god popes are the best.

>>13745886
Since no one has mentioned it and it deserves its chance to be mentioned: Twin Aura Attack, Red Nanajin/Oukaoh combo.

>>13746353
They're probably going to gimp it

>>13746383
It's pretty much confirmed to be gimped anon, it looks more like Crisis Core than FF7

>>13746391
Character Action Game 7?

What does Mikus MAP do?

>>13746305
I'm a veteran of FFT, I know goddamn well what a flying, Choco Meteor-casting chocobo would be like.

N.O.E.S.C.A.P.E.

>>13746401
It buffs stats kinda like the Quanta actually.

>>13746405
00/Deceive/Miku stat buffs don't stack, do they?

>>13746403
DRAW YOUR SWORD

>>13746391
>Still haven't played a FF before
>Always wanted to try it since the combat in the older games appealed to me
Certainly not gonna get started by playing the remake.

>>13746414
I know Decieve/00's don't, I checked.

>>13746405
Ah okay
What's Demonbanes MAP do?

>>13745000
>I think a modified ISO of Z did that along with a few other things, but it also threw the balance off by making all units way more powerful.
What else did it do? I'm already too far into the original to try and switch over, but I'm curious

>>13746423
enemies cannot move during the turn

Weren't black chocobos more purple in game?

>>13746438
>enemies cannot move during the turn
As expected of a deus machina

>>13746450
They can still attack anon.

>>13746350
>Arnie
It's an okay TV show.

Bernardi is pretty great as Arnie Nuvo, but I don't really recall any amazing performances by the rest of the cast.

A definite must watch for TV history purposes, though, just for the fact that it's an early take on "average joe becomes big shot" thing.

>>13746456
It is pretty useful for setting up MAP kills, though. Which is nice, because UX is way too fond of the whole "two bosses that retreat as soon as you take down one of them" thing.

>>13746462
>UX is way too fond of the whole "two bosses that retreat as soon as you take down one of them" thing.
Which is annoying with the Rean guys because Arnie always one shots them

>>13745982
Wow, they gave The O a dynamic kill?

>>13746418
SURRENDER OR DIE IN OBSCURITY

>>13746423
It calls for Leopardon.

>>13746050
The dust has settled? What are you talking about anon? Piracy options just came out for a great many people. This shit has just dropped.

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>>13746565
{spoiler]I enjoy whoring out these images a bit too much.[/spoiler]

>>13746515
RAISE YOUR FLAG!

>>13746582
KIMI WA NAAAAZE

KIMI WA NAAAAAZE

>>13743366
UX, Intermission for Scenario 20
Arnie 100
Setsuna 74
Eida 72

I'm really surprised Eida has so many.

>>13746707
R-Daigun is a lot more powerful than you might think considering it's a component, but then, it IS a Dancouga in its own right.

>>13746391
At least you have multiple characters.

>>13746714
Oh, I know it is, but I just kind of throw her out there. She doesn't have any upgrades but she has still racked up kills.

I can appreciate them giving R-Daigun the spotlight for a while, though.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wj3oJ_i5GQ
>It even has Akira's voice clip at the beginning

Is there any reason why Ikusagami is calling Arnie Agni in his summary? I thought he did good summaries.

>>13746763
when does that come out over here?

If it's the first week of February, I will be too busy Nepping and REMOVING AYY LAMOS

>>13746763
I wish they had kept the alternate theme that had been in the first PxZ, but alas. Still, that one's not bad once it gets going.

>>13746769
Arnie is his nickname. Agnes is his actual name.