>These are the new AT ATs The designs in the force awakens

>replacing the cool cylon head with a plain gun barrel

DROPPED

>a bloo bloo bloo

stay no /tv/ with your shit wars please

we should have seen B-wings and C-wings attacking Starkiller

>>13736724
Every design in TFA that wasn't a rehash of an OT design (basically the X Wings, TIEs and Star Destroyer) sucked. The Resistance Transport was a literal box. Han Solo's huge freighter was a T-shaped box. And we get a few indistinct shapes for the New Republic Fleet before it gets blown up as an afterthought so Disney can rehash the OT with plucky Rebels vs the Evil Empire again for the remainder of the Sequel Trilogy.

You know, say what you will about the Prequel stories, but at least it gave us some new and original Star Wars ships and vehicles.

this was an early kylo ren

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>>13736881

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>>13736724
Now I really wish that they rehash same thing for next sequels, to cause moar rage and anger.
It's a movie ffs.
It has been pointed out already by almost everyone for billion times, that even JJ is now aware of it.
This nitpicking actually shows what's wrong with this fandom and why EU was a mistake.

You have showen the way , and now it is in hands of someone who knows it's a time tasted and exploit it to death.

>>13736799
They did the same damn thing in TOR - the Sith Empire vs. The Republic. But on several planets, they're just backing a local resistance so it's "rebel scum" and "republic scum" over and over.

And then along comes the Eternal Empire that clocks both sides so now they're BOTH rebels against a terrible massive empire. Can't just have the good guys fighting space ISIS, no, the rebels are always the good guys.

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>>13736930

>>13736724
You guys are really autistic aren't you?

My god am I glad I don't associate with this fandom

>>13736930
Did you have a stroke half way through writing this?

>>13736951
Thanks anon I appreciate it.

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>>13736777
>B-Wings
My nigga!

It's not a matter of "effort" or lack of. Abrams and Lucasarts decided to put their efforts into practical effects. The Prequel Trilogy might've been filled with a lot of "cool shit", but it was entirely CG.

Also, >>13736759

>>13736777
C-Wings don't exist.
K-Wings don't exist.
E-Wings don't exist.
D-Wings don't exist.
T-Wings don't exist.

>>13736777
>>13736973
yeah about those b-wings...

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>>13737564
oops

>>13737572
Somehow I get the feeling that the design philosophy behind TFA was "Why give a fuck? You're going to watch and buy our shit, anyway, as long as Star Wars is attached to it."

>>13737059
>he actually fell for the "TFA isn't CG" marketing

Anon, pls. You sound like one of the retards that say Unicorn isn't CG.

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>>13736724

It makes perfect sense in a twisted way (unlike a few things in TFA...).

The Galactic Empire, and its armed forces, are dead and gone. A few more years of stupid, wasteful battles saw to that (just like the stupid, wasteful battles the First Order is going to wage).

What remains is a strange, Sith-obsessed, quasi-religious spin-off of the Empire. So we get uglier uniforms for officers, Stormtroopers "updated" by Apple's designers, and reversed-color TIE Fighter.

They're supposed to look like crap, design-wise.

>The white-and-black toy gun might be a stretch though.

>>13737913
>black and white toy gun
As someone who spends time around actual firearms I really fucking dig the white frames. They look like raceguns, not toys. Always loved dual tone/dual material receivers.

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>>13737926

That's a fair opinion--I just don't see it, but then again, I'm not familiar with guns. I just think they look like crap next to the old modded Sterling SMGs we had in the trilogy.

Always thought Snowtroopers should've gotten a white-material version of the weapon. But two tones? It just looks stupid to me.

>>13737935
Two tones is cooler, makes the structure more distinct. Way I see it, the old Sterlings look like "crap". The new ones look brand spanking new off the production line, which is what I expect. They look built up, higher quality, and better suited to bashing against shit. The E11 has a good aesthetic but the new shit still looks good.

I still can't shill two-tone guns enough.

>>13737601
Anon you're a full fucking retard ya know that?

>>13737572
What did they do to my beautiful assault fighter?

>>13737913

>A few more years

Anon, the new canon has the Empire signing a more or less unconditional surrender.

ONE YEAR AFTER ENDOR

>>13738025
its a transport now, that thing that leia takes finn and han to the resistance planet in

>>13738022
The first time Unicorn activates NT-D is 3dcg. There's a lot of other examples too.

>>13738060
IT doesn't even make sense as a transport. You can probably fit what, 10 people in that thing, tops? They really should have given Leia an updated version of the Corellian Corvette. I mean, they had no problem rehashing ANH everywhere in this movie, so why not rehash one of the better designs of ANH?

Maybe the designers were just lazy. 'What? Design a new ship? Nah, here have a flying box instead.'

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>>13737059
>The Prequel Trilogy might've been filled with a lot of "cool shit", but it was entirely CG.

>http://boards.theforce.net/threads/practical-effects-in-the-prequels-sets-pictures-models-etc.50017310/
;__; we're never going to get films with this much attention to detail again let alone a star wars film. There rushing this new trilogy out too quickly. they start filming 8 next month and its comes out next year.

>>13738109
It's not a B-Wing, anon's been rusing you.

>>13738125
those things are supposedly cannibalised from parts of older ships and throwbn together to make a transport, and there's clearly b wing parts in there.

>>13736724
designs in clone wars cg cartoon are good

REBELS IS A PIECE OF SHIT, nothing new and the inquisitor lightsaber is retarded

>>13736799
>those shitty fighter designs
im scared of whats to come, I see why theyre just rehashing old designs

>>13738124
What the other anon should've said was that the prequels were almost completely shot with a bluescreen.

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>>13738049

From what I understand, technically, the Imperial military survived that, but was completely defeated (similar to the Reichswehr after World War I). Some later event after the treaty actually kills off the Empire.

Eh, not really a fan of the new films anyway. 'TIE Fighter' pretty much trumps everything to me personally anyway.

>>13738134
>nothing new and the inquisitor lightsaber is retarded
I'm convinced Sheev and Vader do that just to laugh at the idiots.

>>13738125
If you can't see the cannibalized form of the B-Wing there Anon, it's ok. Denial is the first stage of grief.

>>13738133
Ugh...it makes sense story wise, but I still hate it.

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>>13738140

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>>13738184

>>13738173
>>13738180
>>13738184
I was at barnes and nobles looking at the book that has all the artwork and concept art

man SOME OF THAT SHIT was really bad, the stuff we got in TFA is really safe and tame

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>>13738185
joe johnston's still alive
couldnt they just give him a cal if they wanted something that looks like it belong in the original trilogy?

>>13738173
>>13738180
>>13738184
>>13738185
>>13738198
These are just bad. The only remotely pleasing concept is the tie with the blade shaped wings.

>>13738185
This looks like shit especially

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>>13738224
I kinda like this thing. Aside from that I got nothing.

>>13738436
A ball with a shield and side mounted cannon. Paint it red put it in ep 8

>>13738227
still better than the goddamn EU

>>13738436
Everything is just such a huge step backwards. They went from TIE interceptors to TIEs with extra greebles.

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>>13738436
I'm kind of interested in the fighter on the right. I loved the V-19 Torrent in the Clone Wars and that one kind of looks reminiscent of it if its wings do fold down.

>>13738586
That's what happens when you're no longer the biggest kid on the playground.

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>>13738576

Can't agree with you there, anon.

>>13738662
Is that the Interceptor's retarded cousin? Because that's what it looks like.

>>13738682
Honestly it looks like a tie advanced with the interceptor wings. Nothing that crazy.

>>13738125
There's early concept art at the original trilogy showing a very similar ship.

>>13738124
Yeah well star wars is shit.

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>>13736799
>You know, say what you will about the Prequel stories, but at least it gave us some new and original Star Wars ships and vehicles.

The vulture starfighter, jedi starfighter, jedi interceptor, V-wing, pre-GCW Y-wings, and of course the naboo starfighter. So many awesome designs.

>>13736973
The B-wing was a mistake from a design perspective. The thing was so thin that it wouldn't show up on screen, hence why there is no combat footage of it in RotJ.

>>13737059
>Abrams and Lucasarts decided to put their efforts into practical effects.

Except TFA looks more like CG heavy than any of the prequel films do.

>>13738576
EU has some shit rebel alliance ship designs (baring a few exceptions likes the E-wing and original V-wing), but the EU has several fantastic Imperial ship designs. Also, the StarViper is gorgeous.

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>>13740138
Are you blind?

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>>13740157
Are you? See >>13738124
You couldn't even tell that Unicorn uses CG, talk about blindness.

>>13738124
>They'd be surprised how many PT/overall saga lovers there are out there, it's just somehow the haters have louder voices...
>It's because there are very, very few PT fans in the film/film journalism community, which is why nearly every editorial piece on Star Wars in the past 15 years has treated the PT like garbage, eventually leading to the illusion that "everybody" hates the prequels. I suspect it's closer to 50/50.

Holy shit this delusion is sickening. Do these retards honestly believe that the majority of people likes the prequel trilogy?

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>>13738576
Fuck you. The EU had some great ship designs that weren't just rehashes of OT ships or flying boxes.

>>13740149
>the EU has several fantastic Imperial ship designs

Mah nigga. I'd take the Pelleaon Star Destroyer over that hollow thing that was in TFA.

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Speaking of old EU designs, it looks like Rebels next episode will recanonise the KOTOR's Hammerheads.

>>13740253
damn, are those still functional ancient ships, or

>>13740191
oh dont get me wrong, the EU had some TASTY ships. But it was overwhelmingly trash.

>>13740186

> Despite the hate that Phantom Menace got it still made over a billion dollars
> Clone Wars made nearly 700 million so retained a lot of Phantom Menace's audience
> And despite being a sequel to what are commonly held as two terrible films Revenge made nearly 900 million, not only likely retaining most of Clone's audience but pulling in a lot of new people too
> The prequel trilogy was many children's introduction to Star Wars
> It retains a high sense of nostalgia for them because of it
> Cons regularly have people dressed not as original trilogy characters but prequel trilogy characters showing an attachment to those characters

Yea, I'd say it has it's fans. I wouldn't put it at 50/50 mind, but I would say it's not an insignificant proportion of the fanbase at the same time. Probably around 15%/20% or something. What do I know though, I think the original films are kind of boring as well to be honest and am mostly a fan of Star Wars because of the TIE fighter and X-Wing games along with some of the EU books.

>>13737419
Man EU really played out the whole <letter>-Wing naming scheme didn't they?

Weren't the four different ones from the movies already pushing it enough?

>>13740337

Why wouldn't they follow the naming scheme they've already established when they're being built by and for much the same groups of people?

>>13740345
>pt art
>man SOME OF THAT SHIT was really bad, the stuff we got in TFA is really safe and tame
>>>
> Anonymous 01/12/16(Tue)07:25:41 No.13738198▶>>13738224
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>>>13738185
>joe johnston's still alive
>couldnt they just give him a cal if they wanted something that looks like it belong in the original trilogy?
>>>
> Anonymous 01/12/16(Tue)07:34:23 No.13738224▶>>13738436

Because having ships designed based solely to resemble a letter is stupid. I'm not looking forward to Z, R, or any other asymmetrical letters -wings.

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the creature designs and aliens were pretty shitty
this is the most generic looking monster i think ive seen i any scifi movie

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>>13740267
>oh dont get me wrong, the EU had some TASTY ships. But it was overwhelmingly trash.

I'm highly amused by how upset some people seem to be about EU being thrown out. I mean there's some good stuff in there, but it's buried in a lot of terrible books that would pretty much have left nothing for a new set of films to do.

Pic related. It's some of the overwhelming trash.

>>13740182
Fukken rekt.

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>>13740390
I think the only thing from the EU that we lost that rustles my jimmies a bit is losing Shadows of the Empire.

>>13740390

I prefer the Sun Crusher over the Starkiller Base. It has a cooler name, it works in a more terrifying manner since it gives inhabitants a short window to realize they're fucked but still no real opportunity to do anything about it and it's both visually and methodologically different from the Death Star, necessitating that it be dealt with in a different manner and give new visuals - at least within the franchise. It looks like ass admittedly, but in every other way it's better than the Starkiller. And it's design could be redone very easily.

>>13738586
But the FO TIEs were a step forwards. They basically managed to shrink down all the essentials and put it into the classic frame. Only thing Interceptors have over the FOs is more forward guns. What I do want to see now though are First Order Interceptors and First Order Defenders. I'm sure /m/ would be singing their praises if we get them.

And Stormtrooper Nines brought back as a Phase 0 Dark Trooper, where every defeat results in him trading more of his damaged flesh for more robotics, until he becomes the Phase 3 Dark Trooper with only his brain left. I just want my terror troopers back; and the technologically advanced First Order is perfect, given this day and age.

>>13740390
>EU being thrown out
The worst part is that it hasn't been COMPLETELY thrown out. You can still find a lot of the old EU books in stores with the Legacy subtitle under them, so it's not like they're completely brushing the stories under the rug. In addition, they seem willing to bring EU material back into the canon if it fits, so just because it's not canon now, doesn't mean it's not canon forever.

Okay, granted that only seems to work for stories pre-OT, but who's to say we can't work Grand Admiral Thrawn into those 30 years between RotJ and TFA?

>>13736907
Grom Hellscream?

>>13737419
>Expanded Universe has ~157 adult novels of Star Wars lore
>Disney Universe has 7 and doesn't consider Episode 1-6 novels part of the continuity

Trying to shut down discussion with "muh doesn't exist" meme isn't terribly convincing.

>>13740817
I just wanted stormtroopers to fight like soldiers trained from childhood.

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>>13736973
>two B-wings is all it takes to destroy the Devastator

If they only showed up right after the ANH opening crawl.

>>13740990
Empire doesn't need to look any worse.

The guy's retired now, but what would a Syd Mead starfighter look like?

>>13740988
Maybe Captain Phasma won't job as badly next time, and give us a good showing of a proper indoctrinated giantess Stormtrooper.

>>13740988
Here's hoping. It was actually nice seeing them hit moving targets during the initial village raid, and tearing into the X-wing before it could take off.

If it was the old Empire Stormtroopers, they'd be missing almost every civilian with a gun and missing the X-Wing as it successfully started up and took off.

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>>13738180
This one could be a decent variant, looks like a return to the ARC-170 style of S-foil concept with the embedded wings.

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>>13740802
Outrider was in ANH:SE

>>13740379
it doesn't look like another human therefore it's okay.

>>13741083
>that fucking 90's shitty CG 720p spliced into the movie

>good new JJ designs
Star Destroyer
storm troopers
>bad new JJ designs
X-wings
Walkers
Reys land speeder
>meh JJ designs
tie fighters

The new Enterprise also looked like shit. JJ just has a poor eye for sci fi aesthetics.

>>13740802
Dash Rendar and the Outrider were literally just an ersatz Han Solo and Millenium Falcon made to free their hands a bit though.

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>>13741112
>Han, ma bookie, keel-ee calleya ku kah.

>>13740364

The B-Wing looked more like a small t than any kind of B and the A and Y wing only had the vaguest resemblance to either letter while the X-Wing didn't have an X shaped profile at all - just had an X-shaped wing pattern. Naming them after a letter of the alphabet doesn't necessitate that they are solidly designed after that shape.

>>13741153
Man I dunno what to think about that scene, Or even worse, that in 2004 they updated the model of Jabba thinking that somehow that saved it from being an absolutely terrible scene that ruins the pacing of the movie, spoils the reveal of the Falcon, and makes absolutely no sense with the whole way they make him step on Jabba...

I dunno what it's titled but on the old 1997 VHS of the trilogy there was a small featurette about the remastering process and they talk about how they came up with the "genius" idea to have Solo step on Jabba's tail...

>>13736724
The only problem with those new AT-AT's is their turtle bodies.

But the decision to put bigger guns on the head mount with more directional flexibility makes sense.

The biggest issue is that it STILL doesn't seem to have any sort of all around defense turrets. Not even ass turrets.

>>13741159
Oh here they are

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB4woJeligY ANH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uI7frQF1dw ESB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59lBceX19i8 ROTJ

>>13741153
Jesus, even when they tried to fix it it still looks like crap. Glad I have the Despecialized Edition.

>>13741220
Despecialized editions are nice but they still aren't great. So much of it is harshly upscaled footage from the 2006 DVDs that are based on bad laserdiscs. They tried taking as much footage from the BDs as they could but so many shots are just a grainy mess with bad motion smearing.

I really liked Adywan's Special Edition revisited concept where he took the special editions and then did a PROPER special edition job, where only Han shoots, no Jabba scene, and actually fixing some of the continuity errors etc that they for some reason missed in the so far THREE times they've fucked those movies.

>>13741234
Yeah, but the sad thing is that special fan editions are likely the only way we'll get close to seeing the original trilogy as it originally was simply fixed to Blu-Ray quality.

>>13736777
In-universe it makes sense since they are the resistance and not the republic, which has the actual fleet. One character actually mentions that they're screwed without "the republic fleet".

Out of universe, I'm guessing that they want they want to keep them for later movies. I mean, if they had all the ...-wings and TIE's from the OT in TFA, the next 2 would probably be a letdown.

>>13741243
>as it originally was simply fixed to Blu-Ray quality.

What? They have internegatives and could restore the film if they wanted to, without the bullshit 720p CG and recomposited model shots that they ruined the film with.

>>13740813
It not just that it looks awful. Everything about it screams bad fanfiction. Which is the same problem I have with Starkiller Base.

There's an imperial superweapon, built at the same time as the death star and then completely forgotten about. But unlike the death star this one is the size of a fighter. With armor so strong even a supernova or flying into a star won't destroy it, much less conventional weapons. The Death Star can blow up a whole planet? Well this thing blows up entire systems!

Looking like a golden buttplug is probably the least offensive thing about it.

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>>13740990
B-Wings weren't developed until 0 ABY, so they wouldn't have been around to help. And remember, it only took 1 A-Wing to decimate a Super Star Destroyer. Glorious Nippon Spirit, banzai!

I was really hoping we could see a politically ineffectual New Republic having to put down their own rebellion/insurgency rather than what we got. It would have a nice symmetry to have an organization that is still read by a generation of rebels having to try and deal with one.

>>13741294
To be fair that Super got its bridge deflectors blown up, a gentle space breeze could've taken it out.

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>>13741154
I always thought it was because the profile shot looks like a 'b'. Albeit flipped upside down and facing the wrong way according to this pic.

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gerwalk y wing when?

>>13741342
If it flies the other way maybe... And even so it's still more of an "E-wing"

Ǝ-Wing?

>>13741355

> Gerwalk Y-Wing, he is A ANF

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>>13741113
New X-wing was pretty slick, probably the closest to getting an original X-wing/Z-95 style engine design unless the Headhunter shows up in Rogue One.

>>13741355
I dunno if I could stomach stock sound effects coming out of that.

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>>13741154
The names of the A-wing and B-wing were semi-accidental or just convenient since they were just referred to as A Fighter and B Fighter during ROTJ production to distinguish them from the others.

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>>13741403
Why are they called A, B or Y-Wings when they have a different aphabet?
Star Wars sure is silly.

>>13741342
B stands for "blade".

>>13741411
They have the Latin alphabet too, It's called High Galactic in the context of Star Wars, compared to the Aurabesh alphabet which is what you linked.

>>13741376
That art does not have the selectively anorexic problems the JJ-wing does.

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>>13741418
It also stands for "boner"

I dig the riced out TIEs but other than on the escape scene they job really hard even with gunner turret.

I didnt even notice the new AT-AT.

New X-wing is just different engines, Poe gets his own custom and that was rad tho.

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>>13741460
>New X-wing is just different engines, Poe gets his own custom and that was rad tho.
The way the wings split is different though.

>>13741491
I missed that, I feel old now.

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>>13738124
kind of feel TFA was really lacking in crazy scifi backdrops. like they thought how do we do shit with practical effects and not cgi like we promised and then just decided not to bother because it was too difficult

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>>13741453
The T-70 S-foils being staggered make it even more streamlined in cruise mode since it can still split the wings without them needing to be twice the thickness.

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>>13738180
Not sure what they were going for here, at least the X-Wings in TFA actually resemble the OT ones from a glance. I didn't even notice the new intakes until the lego sets got good pics.

>>13738184
This looks fine, not as cool as the Prequel V-Wings but it's a fine light craft.

>>13738185
Not sure what's going on here, but it looks like an alien A-10. Maybe turn it into a dropship or something? This design feels salvageable at least

>>13738198
This shit is fucked though. Even from three angles I'm not sure what's going on here. It feels more like an Ugly than any mass produced design.

>>13741515
That X-wing looks like it's being held together by pins and needles.

>>13740253

holy shit what episode is that???

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>>13741529
>first order speeder is a grey wedge
>first order dropship is a grey wedge
>rens shuttle is a black wedge with wings

>>13741514
man those drawings are fucking amazing I love that future look from the 60s and 70s

then in the 80s all we got was dirty shit and technopunk shit

>>13741514
TFA in general was unambitious. It's no secret they avoided trying anything new.

>>13741554
Honestly I'd have have been fine with the dropship if it didn't have the dumb coning tower, and maybe had some Imperial shuttle style wings on the back. Its on the way to being a good design but it looks like they just gave up partways in and glued a refrigerator on top.

>>13741554
Wedge Antilles is Snoke.

Also why no dual side doors on that to minimize casualties? It's not wwII anymore.

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>>13741514

>>13741515
The thing with the T-70 is that it's literally supposed to be New Republic surplus, the current model of X-Wing is the T-85 I think. They supplied the Resistance with the surplus older models.

>>13741515
>>13741535
The design would look better if they had the staggered s-foils connected to static cylindrical engines. You would just need to have them mounted on rings around the outside of the nacelles.

>>13741659
Source on this?

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>>13738014
I like the old guns way more, personally.
this literally looks like a toy.

>>13742553
Main background info is from the first Aftermath novel. Otherwise there is the TFA Visual Dictionary and the Incredible Cross Sections books as well as the Art of Episode VII.

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>>13742555
it might as well be

>>13741276
They may have them but that doesn't mean we'll ever get to see them.

>>13742555
That's because it is.
>those screws
>glock replica

I wonder what they do in the Star Wars universe if they need a small, easily concealable handgun. Everything's always so large and bulky. That can't be too convenient.

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>>13742828
>that drybrushing

>>13742828
maybe the space equivalent of bubba chops down the barrel of a T-21, cuts off the stock, and stipples the grip.

>>13742684
The T-85 is from Before the Awakening, Poe's story. He had one while in the NR military.

>>13738173
Anything on the NR capital ships? We see some in the Hosnian system, but I haven't seen the images from the artbook yet.

Do you think they have TV in Star Wars? Or public internet? Everything seems to use holograms, but the holograms always look so shitty. The communications devices are all ass too.

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>>13741515

>hey guys we have all these white and blue x-wings in the movie, how are we going to distinguish poe's fighter from the rest?
>design a new fully customized variant and render a unique cgi model?
>nah lets just use the negative color feature in photoshop.
>brilliant!

>>13742891
Is there a higher res version of this?

>>13742899
Spliced it together from Amazon's ICS preview, haven't seen the full scan posted yet.

>>13742891
Why would Poe have an entirely different X-Wing? It makes sense to just have a unique colour scheme.

>>13742891
The Char Custom is just a pink Zaku II

>>13742891
how are they going to make it stand out in space?

>>13742891
isn't an x wing easier to hit in attack mode?

>>13741083
I like to think that since Dash Rendar and the Outrider are canon but Shadows of the Empire isn't, that the whole story as we know it from the N64 game is just Dash's elaborate tale he tells to get laid.
"Yeah, baby, I totally saved the Rebellion five times, fought and beat IG-88, Boba Fett and like a MILLION wampas. I also single-handedly stole the plans to the second Death Star. What's a Bothan?"

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>>13742949
fuck bothans

>>13742939
They are supposed to have deflector shields which would provide protection, but would still make a larger target area than either physical configuration.

>>13742864
I've seen the movie twice and really paid attention during the Hosnian Prime destruction scene and even then I could barely make out the details of the New Republic Fleet. There were a few shapes that could be Star Destroyers and a blob or two that could be Mon Cal Starcruisers but the scene passes by too quickly.

BTW, I'm really annoyed by the implication that the bulk of the NR fleet was at Hosnian Prime. I mean, they're a Galactic government, why isn't their fleet spread around policing their territory rather than hanging in orbit around the capital doing fuck all? Even the Earth Federation wasn't stupid enough to have their entire fleet at the Naval Review in 0083, and this is a government dumb enough to sell Char an asteroid AFTER he'd just dropped pne on their capital.

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>>13742555
Not orange enough.

Needs more orange.

>>13743027
> I mean, they're a Galactic government, why isn't their fleet spread around policing their territory rather than hanging in orbit around the capital doing fuck all?
Because the New Republic is basically the United States during the Articles of Confederation. Most of the military power in the republic comes from planetary defense forces rather than a centralized authority - hell, the new senate is even a mobile one that transitions between planets on some kind of cycle. I think it's safe to say that the republic fleet just follows the government unless some shit is going down.

So, theoretically, this didn't neuter the republic that much, as the larger war engine remains in place.... however, forming a sizable fleet would require cooperation from the member-states who might now be shitting themselves about defying the First Order.

>>13741234
>Adywan's Special Edition
So is this only one of the movies or have they done all three?

>>13740390
I don't mind them throwing out the EU if it meant replace trash with quality content, but instead we just replaced trash with more trash. Such wasted potential.

>>13742891
>black x-wing

Poe confirmed turning to the dark side. I mean after all he had no qualms with blowing up an entire planet. Total sith material if you ask me.

>>13742555
I agree, although I like the idea of a two tone weapon they did not execute the idea well here. There is just too much white.

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>>13743184
>poe was issued a stealth x-wing but he ruined the fiberplast camo by painting orange stripes everywhere like his favorite ninja hokage

Believe it.

>>13743111
iirc, he's planning to do all three. it's a slow process though.

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>>13741515
>>13742891
Is it just me, or do these cross section pages for TFA look really sparse on text details compared to the ones for the original trilogy?

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>>13743731
Are the lasers on the x-wing stronger than on the other starfighters due to being so much longer? They all seem to be the same strength. What is the advantage then?

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>>13743731
The first one is part of the Resistance Pilots entry in the Visual Dictionary so is more photography than overly descriptive text. The Incredible Cross Sections page seem about par for the course with that book style. There are actually more individual items noted on Poe's X-wing than on Luke's, but it looks less cluttered in the layout.

>>13742772
This is Disney running things now. If they think they can make a buck, and it's not Song of the South. They'll sell it.

>>13742891
Little tidbit says Resistance could only build few X-Wings of their own therefore they must make do with what is donated by supporters.

X-Wings are more expensive and complex than the FO TIE Fighters, but are nimble enough for dogfighting and have enough firepower to damage capital ships.

>>13743955
>FreiTek life support unit
I dont get it they dont have closed off helmet so how i some hose connected to the jump suit gonna save you life ?

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>>13744081
Rule of cool, son.

>>13743974

Lucas stipulated that Disney cannot sell any version of the original or prequel films beyond his favored version as far as I'm aware. Also, the reason that Disney don't sell Song of the South is because it won't make them money. Any money they made selling it would be far outweighed by all the negative press and hassle it'd generate doing so.

>>13744233
They just announced an uncut version coming out.

>>13744081
IIRC,in the old EU Rebel pilot suits generated a small atmospheric shield over the helmet in the event a pilot went EVA. Maybe they have a similar explanation for this one?

>>13743720
He's planning to do all six, I think, with the prequel trilogy being heavily edited.

>>13744081
They are following the Top Gun rule of pilot helmets where the heroes get to show their faces while the bad guys are the faceless horde. Ironically this means the bad guys get to survive more often when they actually have to eject. The TIE Fighter short film gets around this by showing cutaway shots through the pilot's helmets.

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>>13743634

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>>13743634
not seen rebels but is quarrie named after ralph mcquarrie?
though ralph mcquarrie already has a character named after him which he also played

>>13743955
>the random sullust resistance pilot is Nien Nunb
>the guy sitting co-pilot to Lando in RotJ

this makes me angrier than it should

>>13745114
Other than how old he must be, I don't see what's to be angry about.

He made fighter pilot, that's something he can brag about.

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https://youtu.be/9ZS13ZZIef0?t=825
skip to 13:50 if it doesnt jump there already
>http://semperneimoidiana.weebly.com/

>>13745114
How about that Admiral Ackbar doing another Resistance briefing about the Death Star 3?

He didn't even get any meme lines this time.

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>>13745114
>Nien Nunb is the Rebel pilot cameo consolation prize for Dennis Lawson not returning as Wedge or Billy Dee Williams returning as Lando

In other news Dennis Lawson is Ewan McGregor's uncle.

>>13745311
I was just a tiny bit disappointed that Poe's last name wasn't Antilles.

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>>13745311
why is obi wan kenobi dressed as a sith lord?

Also /m/, what obscure background or eu character would you want but not really to see appear for no reason in the next movies? My vote goes beardy old man commando from ROTJ

>>13745505
The NOPE Troopers.

>>13741554
>Not liking the Space Higgins Boat.

>>13745284
One of the things I'll miss most about the old EU was Ackbar's history and career. Commanding the conquest of Coruscant, kicking Imp Grand Admiral and warlord ass all over the galaxy and planning the defeat of the Yuuzhan Vong from his deathbed. Nothing they'll have him do in the new canon could possibly compare.

>>13745505
FN-2199(AKA, TR-8R) surviving Han's shot and becoming singularly obsessed with hunting down Finn.

>>13745546
I could get behind this.

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>>13745546
SPIN TO WIN

>>13745688
>dat hip movement
l-lewd!

>>13745688
>>13745702
I'll try spinning! That's a good trick!

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>>13745064

>>13743052
Why did they articulate the stock? The original design calls for that to be fixed.

>>13745505
>what obscure background or eu character would you want but not really to see appear for no reason in the next movies

See >>13740817:
>Stormtrooper Nines brought back as a Phase 0 Dark Trooper, where every defeat results in him trading more of his damaged flesh for more robotics, until he becomes the Phase 3 Dark Trooper with only his brain left.

>>13743863
the image literally says it gives them a greater range, also that the operate at the limits of safety, meaning that they could be tuned to be even more powerful than the shorter barrel, but at the risk of exploding.

>>13745097
Yes, it's to honor Ralph McQuarrie.

>>13741515
T-70 is the only Xwing design I've ever been into and Palleon Star Destroyers are shit.

>>13742866
>Do you think they have TV in Star Wars? Or public internet?
They do.

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>>13746235
>B-Wings blowing shit up
>QT3.14 Twi'lek pilot
Stop Anon, my did can only get so hard

>>13742891
Can black also make something 3x faster?

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>>13747281
It absorbs more light so the solar winds from stars light years away accumulate to multiply the acceleration by 300%.

>>13747382
>black_is_the_new_blue.jpg

FTFY

>>13746291
>the image literally says it gives them a greater range

I know what the picture says, but the picture is not canon so it's irrelevant.

>>13744907
>They are following the Top Gun rule of pilot helmets where the heroes get to show their faces while the bad guys are the faceless horde.

But that has been a thing since way before Top Gun.

>>13747440
>the book published to explain how the ships work isn't relevant

It's quite convenient to ignore any discussion in favor of parroting the Disney line isn't it. You expect Disney to say something contrary about the X-wing's laser cannons that hasn't already been published?

>>13747460
Holy shit, that explosion was pretty. I might have to start watching this shit, added bonus for my new Twi'lek waifu and her B-Wing.

>>13747460
got a webm for that amazing clone wars explosion that came at the end of that shitty droid arc?

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>>13741411

That's like asking why they speak English in the movies.

>>13741491

I also like the way the wingtips curl up around the blasters. Feels more like a design choice and less like a scratch-built model that way.

>>13741514

It really hurt the sense of scale that they didn't have more stuff like that in the movie. Even at Yavin, you had the observation towers and the relic pyramids and busy hangar scenes. The Rebel base in TFA looked like nothing more than a parking lot for a half-dozen x-wings and a small command room. Some distance shots, long corridor scenes, and underground hangar scenes would have gone a long way to justifying trying to blow up Starkiller rather than just abandoning the tiny base.

>>13747501
It's quite convenient to ignore reality and just parrot your blind Disney hate for shitting on your precious non-canon EU isn't it? You expect Disney to just keep everything the same despite getting rid of the EU? Makes me wonder why you guys get so butt hurt over it then.

>>13736724

say what you will about the prequels, but the mechanical designs of the ships and droids in the first movie in particular were excellent

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This thing is so sex it could have been a Nagano design

>>13749992
Eh I thought it was stupid.
Even as a kid I thought it was too much chrome, made it look like the ship was actually made of liquid metal, which may sound cool to you, but like hell is it Star Wars.

>>13750002

>like star wars

why would a royal transport ship look like the military ships of the empire or the even shittier ships of the republic?

this kind of held back thinking is why the new movie is safe to the point of ridicule

>>13750012
You can have a royal ship look regal.

But please don't coat the hull in chrome, it's really gaudy.

Whites and blues and maybe some purple because royals fucking love purple, but chrome is for automatons goddammit.

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>>13749992
i like this one
looks like it flew right out of the 30's

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>>13750021
Its not gaudy, its sleek and sexy.
Like those old coachbuilt cars from the 20's and 30's.

>>13750037
>posts example of tasteful use of chrome

>calls it sleek and sexy

GEE I WONDER WHY.

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>>13750041

hello

>>13750044
and goodbye

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>>13750041
Literally shit taste.

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>>13750030
>>13749992
>>13750057
man the people of naboo had class
shame about the gungans

>>13750057
>he parades his air assets around naked and exposed to the elements

>thinks he has taste

Greasemonkey please.

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>>13750077
>not wanting to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

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>>13750057
>XB-38
excellent choice, sir

>>13750087
Only thing resembling taste in this thread.

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So... where the hell were thew new Y-Wings?

>>13749992
>>13750030
>>13750063
I can't be the only one who never really felt attached to any of these designs. One of the biggest flaws I think the prequel had was the fact that every movie they had a different silver blob and a new jedi star fighter. We never got much in the way of an iconic ship like the falcon or X-wing

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>>13750375
T-70s are the F-35s of star wars universe, it replaces all others.

>>13750427

This. Big time, this.

>>13750375

Y-wing is my favorite starfighter ever. But I don't think they would make much sense in the new movies set after the original trilogy. They were clearly an older design even at the battle of Yavin.

>>13749992

Chrome SR-71 knockoff. Lame.

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>>13750427
>>>>>>>>>>

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>>13750608

>>13750608
I had no idea R2's Head was separated from the body.

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>>13750638

>>13750638
It was more to do with a whoops moment when the design team realized the N-1's dorsal shape didn't allow for an astromech's shoulder joints.

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>>13750641
How... how the fuck...

>>13741554
How did they stay in place during landings? I don't remember seeing them holding hand railings nor does the pic show any artificial gravity device.

>>13743955
>Porkins Belly Run
JUST

>>13746235
That's some EU-level bullshit right there. But it's ok when Disney does it. :^)

>>13750741
I'm pretty sure a decent number of people agree it's kinda stupid and dumb to both have the B-Wing that early and let it have a pocket superlaser like that.

So it's not really ok when the Mouse does it. But he does it anyway.

>>13750741
>But it's ok when Disney does it.
nope, it's still bullshit, except it's canon bullshit now, which is worse

>>13749947
Yes Disney is going to say the reason the X-wing's laser cannons are long is not because it gives better range and accuracy, but because the Rebels are compensating for their small space penii. Why are you trying to ignore technical information in a book about Star Wars ships just because it was published before April 2014?

>>13750427

>every movie had a new gray blob like the A-wing and B-Wing, and all of those forgettable republic capital ships

it's totally fine if you can't look past the nostalgia, but know that it influences your appreciation of different designs

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>>13746235
Is that the Otana at the end?

>>13752092

god damn that's so bad it looks like they used different sized lego kits of the falcon to make a "new" ship

surprised we didn't see this in TFA

>>13750427
the designs are good but we dont spend enough time with them for anyone to really feel any attachment. I cant think of a single ship that like x wings or the falcon that stay with us for all 3.

>>13752094
Welcome to Correlian "make it modular as fuck" ship design.

>>13752084

ROTJ had its own problems. That was just one among many.

>>13752413
Adding new fighters wasn't a problem.

ROTJ was perfect if you ignore the final battle.

>>13752485
>perfect

>if you ignore the perfection that is the Death Star II attack run

Stormie please

>>13752490
>if you ignore the perfection that is the Death Star II attack run and the ewoks and the rebel fleet managing to fight Star Destroyers at close range and the horde of tie fighters that accomplish nothing.

The force is racist against dark people.

>>13752511
TIE drivers kinda suck at maneuvering in cramped space.

Also it was a retarded trap anyway, I'd the Imperials actually had a sensible attack plan instead of just trying to trap the Rebels at Endor then maybe they'd have won.

Typical Imperial hubris at work. If only Tarkin scrambled the TIEs back at Yavin.

>>13752550
It was a bad plan but the rebels were outnumbered and outgunned on both fronts by imperials.

I was referring to the rebels only loosing a few fighters, not counting the Mon cal ship hit by the death star, in a close range battle of attrition before the shields went down.
superweapons always were the only thing to get anything done

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>>13752289

YT-1760 looks like a good variation on the theme.

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>>13752693

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>>13749992
I read somewhere that Phasma's armor was built from this thing's hull, is that true?

>>13752866

sure that sounds like a stupid thing to happen, I bet it's real

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>>13752866
that leaked concept art had multiple chrome troopers didnt it? you think theyll try and excuse th 7s phasma weak showing by saying that she was just one of many clonechrome super troopers and introduce a new badass one next movie?

>>13752667
Because Sheev just had to show off his superlaser instead of letting the SD fleet skullfuck the Rebs.

I'm telling you the Empire has a hubris problem.

>>13752939
No not when the NuEU has already set her up as being totally unique.

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>>13737598

>>13752939
anyone got any of that old concept art? i remeber ther was some hooded guy whoo was full cyborg

>>13752084
You'd have a point if the A-wing and B--Wing had replaced the X-wing and Millennium Falcon. But they didn't. The Falcon was present for all 3 films and the same goes for Luke's X-wing. That's my point. Padme had a new silver blob every time she left the house and the Jedi got new fighters every 6 months. They never had their own iconic ships.

>>13741113
>The new Enterprise also looked like shit.

It's also the same size as the Enterprise E. While the Enterprise from the original movies was barely half that size.

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>>13752970
mmmmmmm
i need to get my hands on a pair of nice round oranges

>>13753429
>caring about ship scale in Trek

STOP

>>13742555
It looks like a glock with nerf shit glued on.

>>13742828
EU had something called a pocket or palm blaster. I think they only held one or two shots though.

>>13743027
>they're a Galactic government

In the movie itself they were just called "The Republic" they never said "The Galactic Republic". For all we know the galaxy could be broken up in a bunch of smaller states, the Republic and First Order only being two out of many.

I'm sure there's some book or something that says otherwise but the material they're releasing for TFA conflicts with shit in the movie itself, like JJ gave some writers a list of things to explain without letting them see the movie or even tell them a bit of context for everything. So I wouldn't trust any of it.

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>>13752092

>>13745122
And for all we know his species would live up to 300 years or whatever so he's not old yet.

>>13740253
Those looks pretty sweet.

>>13752094
YT-2000 > YT-1300

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>>13743571
I thought he did it like his favourite Alton Towers rollercoaster.

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So the Rebels mid-season preview has come out (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJyxPDEvo9U) and we get another old EU ship recanonized, the Rebel Escort Carrier.

>>13744233
>Implying they would actually listen to him
>Implying Lucas can dictate what the House of fuckin' Mouse can and can not do

Even if Lucas hadn't ruined his career long ago, Disney wouldn't listen to him still. They're fucking Disney, they'll do whatever they want.

And yes we know that's why they won't release Song of the South, it's fucking racist as hell, they've said so.

>>13745546
There's gonna be an EU comic about this or something.

>>13755619
>We want the EU audience

>>13755805
Or it could just be easier than making new designs.

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>>13753507

An actually disbandment of the Galactic Empire isn't given either--just that it was around to sign a treaty with the New Republic, then it sat around for a little bit as some of the crazies left to form the First Order...and then vanished.

I miss TIE Fighter.

>>13755911
this
there's a ton of starwars-ish designs that are already made that they can cherry pick as they need
the EU fags are going to watch it all anyway because they need more things to cry about

>>13755619
It's more because Filoni is an EU-fag. He has admitted to putting in the Marg Sabl manuever seen in the first chapter of the Thrawn Trilogy into TCW.

>>13755951
>He has admitted to putting in the Marg Sabl manuever seen in the first chapter of the Thrawn Trilogy into TCW

Really? Which episode was that?

>>13755959
Storm over Ryloth.

>>13753479
the old guns looked like a camera with gun parts glued on, so

same difference

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>>13750641
no fuckin way...

>>13745505
You know the fan theory that Bearded Old Man Endor Commando is Commander Rex from Clone Wars/Rebels, right?

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>>13755619
So /m/, what old EU designs are you hoping that Rebels will make canon again? Me, I hope that Skipray Blastboats show up in an episode.

>>13755959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceiGWj0BGHI

>>13744629

Lucas was the one who gave the okay for that and leaked the information. Which isn't exactly surprising given that the theatrical versions were released on DVD in 2006 even if not in as high a quality as the remastered versions. All they're doing is re-releasing that cut, though they may use higher quality source footage to do so.

>>13755793

Lucas is one of the few people that has a chance of actually making the House of Mouse sit down and listen to him. Especially when it comes to contract stipulations. And while you may know that they won't release it because it's racist as hell and won't make them money, the original post in >>13743974 was worded like they thought it was some moral obligation that was keeping them from releasing it and that Song of the South was an exception even for Disney, and not simply them recognizing it wasn't worth it financially.

>>13755911

Plus, who cares? That looks fucking amazing regardless of why. I'm really, really hoping we get to see a bit more about the Inquisitors. I like them and want to find out a bit more about them as an organization and perhaps as people as well. There's so much good looking stuff in that trailer though. That shot of Vader behind Ahsoka as she meditates is great for instance and I cannot wait to see that episode where she deals with it.

>>13755911
I practically looks like a new design, anyway.

>>13759750
Huh, that's nice. Hope we get some more EU references like that. I'd love it if we got some references to TIE FIghter (at the very least like some of the planets or ship designs)

>>13759750
Anakin's chest armor looks just like Vader's. Cool touch.

>>13743634
so gay b wing prototype has a fucking death star mini laser

the fuck

>>13755619
why the fuck are there hammerhead cruisers there that are like 900000 years old

the hell is going on

>>13755619
>Rebel Escort Carrier
Quasar Fire-class bulk cruiser, get the name right

>>13759750
I hate his fucking hats

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>>13760609
Eh, I mainly remember it from the Rebellion game, where it was called an Alliance Escort Carrier.

Kind of hope that the Imperial equivalent shows up in Rebels.

>>13759830
The BFF-1 bulk freighter was in a recent Marvel SW issue. The DX-9 stormtrooper transport was in the annual comic this Christmas.

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>>13736724
how well do you think they can terminate space rat scum?