Moving to another board because you think the grass is greener on the other side is a shit idea - and most of the time, the people who follow that train of thought are actually part of the problem for the board they've left.
I'd be OK if Tetsujin #28 FX never got English subs.
If Virtual On ever got an anime series, Operation Moongate could be adapted very closely, but Marz, Oratorio Tangram and Force would all need a lot of work.
Silver Kamen was garbage from start to finish, and it deserved to be canceled. Ambassador Magma is pretty shitty too - and that goes for the OVA, as well. Also, Red Barron and Attack of the Super Monsters are SLIGHTLY overrated, but not by much.
>>13734282 Not on /m/ it isn't. It's people who like Valvrave who should be posting in this thread. Where they will be promptly laughed at. And valvrager will then begin flooding /m/ with macros. Again.
>>13733801 ZZ is worthwhile , specially for 2nd half.
Turn A should be watched after you are done with every piece of Gundam animation in the franchise
Evangelion is deep only when Shinji's portrayal of Anno. Rest is not 2deep4u freud inspired surrealism in art from the early 20th century. It just happens to be there to show depression and coming of age.
/m/ will not improve until macross , gundam and any hyped show goes off air for a while and becomes forgotton again.
>>13734780 I genuinely think /m/ is somewhat of a decent board. Despite all the shitposting you still sometimes feel that the anons here care atleast a bit about the subject matter at hand. Compared to /a/ that consists mostly of horny teenagers that are only interested in getting off to seasonal doujinbait shows.
I'll take >lel this gundam looks so much better than that gundam >mecha anime x babbies need to leave. mecha anime z i way better. over >I want to do specific fetish related thing to girl A >I want to beat up girl B with a bicycle chain any day
All three Getter Robo OVAs are better than the manga J-Decker wasn't that good SDF Macross was just okay The Eureka Seven movie and manga were just as good as the TV show and actually better in terms of pacing The only thing really great about Escaflowne was its animation King Gainer was boring Shin Mazinger and ZERO are the only good things to come out of the Mazinger Z franchise
>>13734935 >All three Getter Robo OVAs are better than the manga >Shin Mazinger and ZERO are the only good things to come out of the Mazinger Z franchise Care to elaborate on why you think these? Maybe a bit on >J-Decker wasn't that good >SDF Macross was just okay too.
I think FMP Fumoffu is the only thing worth watching from that franchise. I think Code Geass was never good. I think the 0079 Movies are superior to the series. I liked all of Gundam 00. I also liked G-Reco.
>>13734951 So is starwars but its the ride that counts. >>13734959 Which things may i ask? >>13734987 But then we wouldn't get the best part of gundam g gundam >>13734995 Why are you on this board? >>13735037 More like newtypes >all newtypes are autistic
>>13735006 Alright, but I'm not getting into any more arguments than I already have over these opinions, so I won't reply to further posts.
The OVAs are more to the point. The original manga and G are forgettable and lack most of the cosmic horror shit the franchise is known for today. The only iconic scene they have is Musashi's sacrifice. Go begins five volumes that aren't like anything else in the franchise in structure and tone and ends with two volumes that make the first five irrelevant. Shin was good, but it was also less cohesive than other installments. Arc never got to its point, whatever it was. Anyways, I feel like Armageddon had more actual character development than the entirety of the manga (for Benkei, Kei, and maybe Saotome, anyway), and that the elements that each OVA took from the manga were used better in the OVAs (the Shin arc in New concluding and not being resolved in a separate manga, for example, or the Texas Mack in SvN being integral to the plot instead of pointless cannon fodder like it would have been in Go).
I hold the same opinion on the Mazinger Z manga that I do on the Getter Robo manga. Mazinkaiser was pretty bland as well, probably because it was accurate to that manga. It took Imagawa adding in a Metal Gear boss gallery pulled from other Nagai works, integrating stuff from Z Mazinger, having ridiculous shit like the Big Bang Punch and creating an overarching plot to make Mazinger exciting to me. Kouji's new and improved voice helped as well, no doubt. ZERO is great because I really like how it seems to completely fuck with your expectations about how the Mazinger Z story goes in a new way in every volume along while still somehow having over the top fanservice of every variety.
I dropped J-Decker around episode thirty or so because it was plotless. I knew it emphasized character over plot, and the characters were indeed good. It's just that they didn't do anything with them.
>>13733801 0079 and ZZ are the only good UC Zeta is terrible Tomino shows are only good for the action Characters being teenagers does not justify them behaving in ways completely unlike a human being for the sake of the story Gunbuster is crap and if you think it was remotely original and/or better than Eva you should kill yourself The best mecha is stylish 80s stuff, like Megazone 23, Bubblegum Crisis, and Venus Wars
>>13735148 There are parts likable in seed but none in destiny. Seed is bad still though. >>13735223 Fine i think the insane pacing for samflam made it better than rising revengence >>13735237 Wait you didn't like gates in second raid? Also code geas like everything taniguchi directs isn't good in a technical sense thought can be entertaining. >>13735303 Eva was worse in every since than gunbuster still. Anno is a hack with no original thought.
>>13735237 That's def unpopular opinion regarding the 0079 movie over series. I have to disagree with the code geass part. Some part of it is actually pretty good, like the ending for example. I also like G-Reco. I think it's thought out well and the animation quality is amazing. It's just unfortunate that it's only limited to its 1 season run without books and crap.
>>13735332 I don't think the original manga and G are to the point, though, mostly because they draw out their central conflicts in a way that the OVAs wouldn't have, meaning the OVAs generally have a better pace. Armageddon admittedly does draw things out, but it also has multiple plot lines running at once. And while that means it wouldn't seem to be quite "to the point," said plot lines are interconnected enough to where the conclusion feels like a culmination of all of them and that every moment spent on each of them developed the main plot in some way, unlike with Go, where again, if Hayato had started with Shin Getter Robo, the story would have been over in one volume instead of seven.
I'm fucking sick of UC Gundam. Especially early UC Gundam.
I don't know why it's so fucking hard for this series to let go of washing over the same tropes, scenes, characters and archetypes. I mean, I can only think of a handful of series that I don't like, but I'm just so tired of it. Do something new with the series? Fuck no, there's gotta be Zeon! Make a new AU series? Yeah, but it better not be too different from UC, or otherwise, it fucking sucks! Do something in UC's future? Fuck that, no Zeon or newtypes!
I mean, shit. At the very least Final Fantasy can bring out a new series, and have familiar set monsters, weapons and themes, but I'm not stuck lugging around 4 crystals for ten goddamn games. They could at least say "hey, let's change it up". I hear all this praise for Thunderbolt, and I just can't get over the fact that it's a fucking ALTERNATE take on the OYW! When is enough going to be enough?
On that note, I liked Zeta Gundam. Maybe because I was comparing it to GSD the entire time, but while it's not "Great", I wouldn't not recommend it.
I like Gundam Seed. I like Destiny too horribly flawed, but I enjoy it. I enjoyed Aldnoah Zero. I respect the original Gundam for what it is, but I don't care for every other Gundam I've seen by Tomino. (haven't seen Victory or Turn A yet) War in the Pocket is my favorite Gundam anime. I enjoy 0083 and 08th MS Team thoroughly because they're pretty enough for me to ignore some of their bigger flaws. IBO is alright, but seriously needs to get it's shit together on pacing. Valvrave was a fun train wreck and I'd even like the mech designs at their base, if it wasn't for all the stupid shit tacked on.
>>13734770 That's not an opinion, that's fact. The question is whether you think it's enjoyable or not that everyone talks like children who are trying to imitate adults in a stageplay they set up themselves.
>>13737044 Because Gundam is hyped up to be some kinda classic great series and it's mostly weird shit happening, bad writing and so-so animation. There's other better animation shows once you subtract the cultural significance.
>>13737044 Gundam is by all means just an average franchise that is really popular. It's popularity attracts shitposting, it's questionable quality gives some minor justification to the shitposting since there are people who'll defend just about anything so long as it's Gundam related.
>>13737050 >Troll thread More like a hugbox thread. People express their opinions here specifically because they don't want to start an argument and in some cases fish for people that might agree with them.
Though if you think people posting different opinions from the (nonexistent) /m/ hivemind is trolling, you may be too far gone to understand this.
I'm not sure that I can fit all of my wrong opinions into one post.
I like Battletech. MechWarrior 2 is one of the things that got me into giant robots and sometimes I get tired of samurai robots doing backflips and just want giant walking piles of guns to slug it out.
I also like Transformers, Robot Jox, Exo-Squad, Roughnecks: Starship Troopers Chronicles, Megas XLR, Sym-Bionic Titan, and Pacific Rim. It's fine to not be Japanese.
The parts of Robotech that are adapted from Macross and Mospeada aren't significantly different from their source material. People blow it way out of proportion because they're so obsessed with Japan. Southern Cross is the only segment that's truly butchered. Who cares about that, though? Even uncut, it's still Southern Cross.
Macross is unbearable, and the fact that I had to watch it twice just to type the above paragraph causes me great pain. Mospeada/The New Generation is the only one of the three Robotech shows that's worth watching cut or uncut.
Patlabor: The Movie is a better movie than Patlabor 2.
Godannar was the best Old Style Throwback Super Robot Show. It's better than GaoGaiGar and Gurren Laggan, but it gets unfairly overlooked because of all the tits.
Baund Doc is the single worst design in the entire Gundam franchise and no matter how many times you tell me otherwise I will never believe that you unironically like it.
Gundam Unicorn was okay until the last episode. The music and the mecha-porn alone were worth it.
I like Mazinkaiser SKL and I hate Shin Mazinger Z-Hen. While I can at least grasp why the rest of my shit taste is considered shit taste, I am baffled that this one is at all controversial.
>>13733801 Banana may have no character to him at all, but Gundam Unicorn stuck the landing and only really gets awful if you read the director interviews
The Getter Robo manga isn't all that great, but it is by no means bad and deserves to be read by fans of the genre
Newtypes are the best thing to come out of Gundam and the existence of "space magic" does not discredit the realism in other parts of the series
Big O season 2 was good and ended perfectly
Most Gundam shows are boring derivative garbage
Giant Robo: The Day the Earth Stood Still was boring and went nowhere with its inital cool premise
Zeorymer the OVA was decent for what it was
Nagano was never good
Kou was a good protagonist
G-reco was dumb but enjoyably so until the last quarter where it became one of the worst animes I've ever had the displeasure of finishing
The Zone of the Enders animes are miles better than the games
Mazinkaiser the anime sucked shit, Shin dosn't hold up on a second viewing, and SKL rules when it isn't being "serious"
Having never grown up with them, '70s Toei robot shows are harmless fun
Shin vs. Neo is the best Getter Robo anything, even with its lackluster ending
I appreciate that Patlabor's setting can be used for serious heavy stuff, but I prefer wacky cops
Turn A was never boring for a second
Gundam X had great characters but not enough to save it from being bland and uninteresting
I like Dann of Thursday's feet, they make it stand out and they fit with the rest of the design
I wish Shin Jeeg had more connections to original Jeeg instead of being a pseudo-sequel, or at least had Furuya come back
Katz and Hathaway were good characters
Voltron is a better name than GoLion but I know nothing about either series
There are two kinds of foregin language dubs: ones that leave you wanting to hear the orignal audio and script and ones that were adapted and acted well enough that you just don't care about the original
I was bored by 00 at first, but it got better with each episode by becoming more and more tense. I thought the second season was way better than the first in this regard. I also think Awakening of the Trailblazer is extremely underrated. It took a huge gamble by coming up with such an out-of-left-field plot but it succeeded by highlighting all the major themes of the series and bringing them to their extreme conclusion.
I dropped Nadesico for the time being because no ending and it just feels like a tease I'm planning on watching the Patlabor movies when I have some time but every time someone spergs about Noa I lose any desire to get into the franchise
>>13738152 >Shin vs. Neo is the best Getter Robo anything, even with its lackluster ending >Zeorymer the OVA was decent for what it was
These I can agree with
>>13735396 I think Shin Getter was more of a last resort. Looking at what it did in Chapter 7 it's understandable why they didn't want to bring it out until the Dinosaur empire showed it's full power, since it would have taken too long to repair Getter Go and it wouldn't be nearly as effective in such a situation.
>>13738276 For what it's worth, the only reason people sperg about Noa is because she actually feels like a character as opposed to a carboard cutout of a woman with random traits attatched. Don't let people's obsessions rob you of a great franchise. (also you can't just start with the movies, the OVAs are a lead up to the first movie)
>SEED wasn't so bad >Unicorn is the best early UC work period >AWGX is the best standalone AU series >00 S2 wasn't so bad either >G is too super robot for me to like >Turn A is a fucking next level masterpiece >IBO is actually breddy gud >western mecha is pretty cool >we need more ballistics and practical weaponry in mecha shows
I have to say, I'm surprised how correct >>13737685 and >>13738405 are, especially with >>13738152. >>13739637 There would need to be more than five Dynamic Pro fans on /m/ for the opinion to be unpopular or not, though considering how they act I'm inclined to agree with you either way.
>>13733801 Berserk is a fairly generic medieval power fantasy that only got popular because it was full of gore and sexual violence which made the teenage audience reading it think made them adults, causing them to give it far more reverence than it deserves. And anyone that claims its amazing or unique is just showing off the fact that they have never picked up a book a day in their life.
Art students who huff their own farts like it's the only clean oxygen are just as worse as weeaboos going on about how anime is the highest art form. Both cringy and annoying as fuck fanboys of a different persuasion.
>>13745208 >Don't confuse complaints with criticism. That's the thing, though, The moment you mention berserk, anything you say is a complaint, you're either underage, or edgy, or uhh... art student? Anyway, just because people get pissy someone isn't jacking off to their favorite medium, doesn't make it a complaint, Berserk being unoriginal is criticism, fair one as well since its neither first nor the last dark fantasy, a medium which is oversaturated mind you. so just saying its unoriginal isn't complaining.
Similarly, pointing out the sniveling defense drones are uneducated is just a fact, since nobody that's ever read a book would claim it is original.
>>13745208 Yes sir, I will make sure to never insult people for liking something mediocre ever again. I've never taken an art class in my life by the way, due to the fact that I also hate artists and the kind of people they are.
>>13745283 >They don't agree with me therefor they're fat and trying to be edgy.
What is this bullshit "if you're not with me you're against me" mentality that everyone and their mother has on the internet? Listen dude, whatever floats your boat, but don't for a second pretend you're taking the high ground when you try to pass on your projections with this passive-aggressive bullshit. If you didn't care you wouldn't reply trying to spout your pseudo intellectual bullshit, so how about you drop a couple notches from that high horse you put yourself up on?
>I'm talking about super cringy shit
One more word of advice, you should really get your shit together, because this is not a natural reaction to reading text on the internet.
>>13745283 What's it like pretending to be an intellectual while your only contribution to a discussion is comprised entirely of logical fallacies with a heavy focus on ad hominem? I just wanna know what its like looking in a mirror and seeing a complete failure of a man that contributes nothing to humanity but still believes he holds any value.
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