/srwg/ Super Robot Wars General #806

>>13732761
2nd OGs Headline: LOCAL TIGER GOD FINALLY HAS RANGE

I want to hold hands with Fiona.

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Judging by the Prana usage, I guess this is a not-Psybuster.

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I'm hoping Kusuha has her @3 outfit in OG 3, it's her best look.

>>13732794
Rayblade was a really weird game.

>>13732797
considering how Ibis got her Alpha 3 suit

>>13732791
>It has been a while since I played so my memory is hazy, but I though Tenjou Tenga Nendou Bakusai Ken / AKA TK Burst Slash could be powered up by upgrading T-Link Knuckle etc? Or maybe I am confusing it with R-Formation?

yes you are

>>13732815
Thanks for clearing it up. I just want my guys to be super op since I am playing NG+ hard Kyosuke's route and want to curbstomp errything.

>>13732834
>Kyosuke's route
>SRX
Oh you sweet summer child

>>13732777
I only need RKO anyways.

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A most serious of names for a most serious of mecha.

>>13732853
Really? I wish it had a regular P attack like the Ryujinki or Shin RKO.

>>13732863
Yeah, I only use KRO rarely.

>>13732857
>Genius
Of course.

>>13732791
You are.

>>13732777
He sort of did in Alpha 1. Not a horribly large amount though, so RKO was still better.

>>13732834
>I just want my guys to be super op since I am playing NG+ hard Kyosuke's route
>Kyosuke's route
>SRX

...do we tell him?

>>13732863
WHERE THE FUCK IS DRAGON KNUCKLE?

>>13732877
>WHERE THE FUCK IS DRAGON KNUCKLE?

I want Rastafarian Beam back, too.

>>13732884
Does that mean Giado is gonna be playable again?

>>13732889
God, I hope so. As mediocre as Giada and Garnet were, I loved 'em.

>>13732709
Wait. Is Tetsujin 28 FX in there?

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Time for retro again. First time I came across this, I have to admit I raised an eyebrow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4IfdP_1xUI

Can Haman please have this theme in an srw game

>>13732896
Even if they didn't pilot, it'd be nice for them to show up more often then just the epilogues, they were fun characters.

>>13732899
Doesn't seem like it, I'm afraid. The only Tetsujins I've seen are the classic era one, and some mid-2000s reboot that I had to ask about. WRONG TETSUJIN and FX aren't in, unless you use that one anon's set of custom units to add the former into the game.

>>13732884
Rastaban Beam would be nice too, yeah.

What other attacks is RKO missing in OGs? I know it had 8 in Alpha 1, both forms did.

>>13732906
Z3-2, Custom BGM. Otherwise, closest you're getting is Haman's Theme in a game without a recruitable Haman.

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>>13732857
That was the robot from the OVA, right?

>>13732906
With the magic of custom OST, she can

Speaking of which I need to start getting stuff together for OG3, even if it's mostly just gonna be vocal versions of songs and older stage themes and stuff that haven't appeared in OG yet.

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>>13732857
>Paniponi X
Now that's someone I hadn't seen in a long time.

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Just going by the name, this guy could make for interesting crosses with SD Gundam plotlines. Or even crossing over with regular Gundams, since we've already done that twice now.

>>13732933
The only custom BGM I'd need in 3rd OGs is OGs songs that didn't make it into the game.

>>13732847
>>13732877
WOAH HOL UP, I guess it really has been a long time. So no SRX AT ALL in Kyosuke's route... damn.

>>13732959
The best part about custom OST is that you'll be able to set game's main themes onto finishers without having to fiddle with the music settings every time you want to watch the animation

>>13732965
>So no SRX AT ALL
Nah, you get it for one stage IIRC

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>>13732965
And that's why Kyosuke's route is shit

Well, that and the whole last third of the game being non-canon

>>13732977
I always find it funny how various attacks show the enemy getting completely obliterated and then it goes to the enemy being in one piece once damage is actually dealt.

>>13732988
OGs was allergic to dynamic kills for some reason, and the OG team likes making every attack end in a huge explosion. OGG fixed that a bit by doing a fade to white if the enemy died on a lot of attacks but then 2ndOG went and undid that again. I think some of the new units in Dark Prison went back to doing it the same way as OGG.

>>13732971
If 3rd OGs really does have custom BGM then at the very least the game'll save your music settings on NG+. 2nd OGs doesn't. It's annoying.

>>13732965
one stage

>>13733003
And we'll finally be able to use this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HojH-aCk4r4

>>13733008
I love that song.

Man, it'd be awesome if we could use custom BGMs for stages like in Tengoku.

>>13732923
>What other attacks is RKO missing in OGs? I know it had 8 in Alpha 1, both forms did.

Scale Vulcan is missing, too.

KRO's missing Sonic Shout (and maybe Fang Missile, I can't recall if they brought that back or not). Variable Drill used to be its own thing, but now it's part of another weapon, I think.

OG3 when?

>>13732794
Be glad he doesn't burn his own SP for his MAP like in his game

No, wait, I actually don't know if Rayblade ever gets its own map because the game was so fucking slow and boring. Like 15 stages in and I STILL wasn't allowed to upgrade the weapons' fucking terrible damage output so I gave up.

>>13733008
FUCKING THIS! So awesome in MX when the EP Evas are about to om nom nom Asuka and then suddenly MATTE, Rom appears and gives his usual speech, which then kicks off this awesome song!

Best settings for PCSX2 1.4.0? I really want to play SRW Z.

>>13733023
Fang Missile was in 2nd OGs as an ALL.

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>>13733041
PCSX2 updated? Neat. The settings in the bottom left are the important ones here.

Just don't turn on texture filtering all the way and it should be fine unless Overfreeze tries to murder your computer.

>>13733023
Isn't Sonic Shout part of Tyrant Overbreak's animation?

You should know by now that they left out some RKO/KRO weapons to add them in later games to play with,before going SRKO

>>13733052
Thanks.

>>13733055
Actually, I think it is.

>>13733023
>Variable Drill used to be its own thing, but now it's part of another weapon, I think.

It was pretty much always a part of Tyrant Overbreak, but it's not in 2nd. Sonic Shout is though. Fang Missile is also back.

>>13733056
Except RKO/KRO are probably going to be gone and we're getting SRKO/SKRO next game. Too late for that.

>>13733052
I am going to have to re-do those settings because SC2 gets laggy when I am close to action

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Interestingly, you switch between pilots with this. Basically, one Kohbu equals the whole original team, just only being able to use one at a time. Upgrading it once gives you the Paris team. Still another upgrade to go, though.

>>13733023
Fang Missile got restored in 2ndOG. Variable Drill used to be the final hit of Tyrant Over Breaker in OGG, but it's not anymore.

>>13733072
>Basically, one Kohbu equals the whole original team, just only being able to use one at a time.

So like Neo/OE's squad system?

>>13733068
That's what I'm trying to say,1 new attack for RKO/KRO before going full SRKO

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>>13733065
I just double checked, it's part of Sonic Javelin actually. Which is also part of Tyrant Overbreak so that threw me off too.

>>13733071
You can save settings in different profiles if you want, I think it's somewhere in the options. Most emulators have a similar function.

>>13733084
I just moved everything over to 1.40

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>>13733078
More or less, yeah, though no mid-stage switching or anything like that that comes from technically having a whole squad in one unit.

>Insert more jokes about this being a better outing for Chamber than Z3

hey srg, i've been out of the loop the past 12 months

i heard there was a 25th anniversary thing this year, is there anything planned? og3? new anime? any rumours?

>>13733106
Someone post it

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>>13733106

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I have no idea, but here's Redman.

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When the infamy of a video game dictates your stats. That's definitely something.

>>13733027
You just have to wait.
Terada is still undergoing angina pectoris treatment.

>>13733068
Can't wait for more naked Kusuha with SRKO.

>>13733120
>no portrait
It knows. Even the game is afraid of him.

How many stages does Robot Dungeon Cross have?

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Feel free to correct my lack of kanji knowledge here.

>>13733312
Oh no, it begins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsmxYIhvFo4
Just a quick reminder that Purus 1 and 2 are both still rotting somewhere in Sumeragi's torture dungeon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WDmJNVKOZQ

>>13733312
someone not worth using.

Can you sell them for something better?

>>13733312
Yoshika Miyafuji.

>>13733318
I don't mind, I just want to see the doujin once it's out

>>13733318
That reminds me, how did Z3 handle Marida's background with the Puru thing?

[/spoiler]I don't mind being in Sumeragi's torture dungeon honestly.[/spoiler]

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Can you dig it?

>>13733376
They made Marida the "prototype" Puru or something like that.

>>13732797
Why is there an X right where the vagina is?

>>13733396
Which would you rather have: little sister Puru or big sister Puru?

And don't fucking say both

>>13733404
Bo-
>And don't fucking say both
You're not the boss oif me now.

>>13733400
X marks the spot anon.

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>>13733404
Marida all the way, dood. I like Yuko Kaida's voice. She's one of Elan's maids in LoE (the other's Yukana).

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It's everyone's favorite choice from SRW 64!

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>>13733404
Puru-nee, no question about it.

>>13733425
Ah! There's Mr. One Range Man himself.

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>>13733425
Its ranges are actually WORSE THAN 64, believe it or fucking not. That one move used to be 1-4.

Does it still have no ammo?

A quick notice for anyone playing SRC, as you've probably seen the entire soundtrack isn't in the game itself, I've gotten a lot of tracks that are designed to work with the game from this site here:

http://robomidi.pa.land.to/

It's on a sort of revolving setup where new tracks open up each day, and as far as I know it only accepts midis. Some songs don't work at all with a "GM不可" next to them, so I can't really decipher why, copyright thing maybe? I dunno but those are just generic midi loops for some reason. The others that don't have that are pretty great though, if you wanted to customize the music a bit.

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>>13733437
8 shots and that's it for his ranged attack.

So, will this Mazinger ever hit SRW?

>>13733438
>503 Service Temporarily Unavailable
T-Thanks.

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>>13733497
That one's old-school!

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One more and I'll have all the 64 MCs.

Is Lost Heroes an SMT clone? Sure looks like it.

>>13733566
Did you find Brasta in the game?

>>13733566
Oh hey, there's even Simoun.

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>>13733582
Ah, is that what this is?

>>13733579
Nope, I think the original Z is as far as it goes.

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I finally started watching gundam from the very beginning. I like this a lot I love how gundam shows both sides suffering and not just Zeon is all evil lol war is fun
I liked the nice touch of the zeon soldiers helping that mom and her kid

So anything new happen recently with SRW translations?
Been away for a while

>>13733601
>not just Zeon is all evil lol war is fun
>I liked the nice touch of the zeon soldiers helping that mom and her kid
FILTHY
DUMB
ZEON
SCUM

>>13733601
>So anything new happen recently with SRW translations?

a demo for AP came out. All possible combos but only goes up to stage 5.

Wish they would tone down Hitler's german a bit

>>13733312
> Unit is the girl rather than the Striker
That's an odd way of doing it. While the witches do have powers on their own (being witches), the Striker unit is their primary mode of transportation in combat and both amplifies their innate abilities as well as better-allowing them to channel their powers into other objects. In fact, before the Strikers were invented, they used souped-up brooms with machine guns attached. Not to mention the witches can switch Strikers, like how Yoshika went from Zero to Shinden. I guess it makes sense from the perspective of which component actually has the attacks (as it's Yoshika holding the guns rather than them being attached to the Striker unit), but it still seems like an odd choice.

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>>13733415
> Post Akira
> Call her Marida
Why

>>13733625
Oh yeah, I'm using it right now. It's quite good, runs on both Ammo and EN and 3 parts meaning V-Units abuse. Badly needs a Minovsky Craft.

>>13733592
Surely they have to be in,I mean even Valvrave is in and that's like 3 years old.

>>13733684
There's plenty of older shit that isn't in, and plenty of newer shit. Age means nothing in this context.

>>13733684
The factor here isn't age, it's whether or not someone was bored enough to make the unit.

>>13733601
Someone started an Alpha 3 translation, someone else released a demo for A Portable, Alpha 1 is still going nowhere, the GCN translation is still trucking along, and the Z1 LP on Something Awful finished the ZEUTH route.

Also that one 2hu SRW got its second and third games translated.

>>13733052
These are the best settings for SRW Z?
Does it run better? Because if so, I'll upgrade mine too.

>>13733090
>4 different Shin Getters
if there's a hole.jpg

>>13733778
And Getter Arc, it looks like.

>>13733778
but which of the 4 is the best?

>>13733718
>Also that one 2hu SRW got its second and third games translated.
Wait, what's this about the third game?!

>>13733817
Probably Shin Getter Dragon, or whichever one has the most combos barring that.

>>13733865
>Wait, what's this about the third game?!
Text translation only since the third game has a different kind of encryption on it from the second so they can't insert the text.

http://lparchive.org/Fantasy-Maiden-Wars-I/

>>13733865
No patch, but there's a full translation of the story dialogue over on SA.

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>>13733090
>All those Getters
Alright, at the risk of being called a spoon-fed faggot or worse: How can I play this game
i need it

>>13733919
read the SRC pastebin in the OP

>>13733925
Fuck me,I knew I couldn't roll with this toaster of a computer forever. time to sell some toys

>>13733937
Isn't SRC the most toaster and ghetto of all games?

I've never played a game with Nadesico in it, and since BX is next how good is it as a battleship?

>>13734078
Well its not as good as it was in J but it still destroys everything

>>13734078
It's probably the ship's best showing yet.

And that's saying something, considering how hideously overpowered it was in J.

>>13734078
When it gets the Y-Unit upgrade, it'll take maybe two stages for Yurika to jump into your top 3 and stay there for the rest of the game. That MAP is still the stuff of marvels every time it shows up.

>>13734078
Usually it's very powerful, which makes up for the Aestivalis brigade being mid-tier trash only good for their cheap and spammable combo attacks. They'll almost always be shoved aside for better units, but the Nadesico itself is one of the few good battleships in SRW.

Fuck using it, though, because I can't stand Nadesico.

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Guess what I found in my old PC?
http://www.megafileupload.com/eeM5/srw1_eng.zip

(Only till Episode 10 with many errors, though I had no idea form where I got it.......)

>>13734107
what does this contain?

>>13733679
So... does this game have any animation, or is it just heads on a map shooting at each other?

>>13734078
BX is its best showing of a batch of pretty good showings (its worst is probably R, and it's just meh tier there).

>>13734088
Except in R and Impact, where the Aestis are just fucking GOOD. They're not bad in BX, really, thanks to the Nadesico they make excellent grunt boosters (Gekigan Flare is low finisher strength but has spammability), AND boss beaters (combos in BX are in general really good for boss kills.)

>>13733724
Those settings are from whatever version of PCSX2 I took the screenshot from. However I doubt the settings options have changed much.

>>13734088
The Aesties aren't really worth deploying but Ryoko's makes a good partner for Galient with that melee bonus.

SCRAMBLE COMMANDER 2 HAS ELEVATIONS?

that caught me off guard

>>13734178
Yes.

The enemy uses it too later on.

Fuck that stage where you played as the Destiny Trio.

>>13734196
I was on mission 3 (first mission with Voltes)

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So who should I pick?

I'm leaning toward SPACE WOMAN at the moment, but I'm still not entirely sure.

>>13734198
I vote for OG Amuro.

>>13734198
Whichever you want, just make sure to bench anyone you're not gonna use at the end like Quattro and give the better suits to better pilots.

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It has come to my attention that after 800 threads, we have yet to ask ourselves the most fundemental question regarding giant robots: Which unit has the cutest drill?

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>>13734120
SRW OG ps2 version
English text till episode 10

Though I am not sure if it's real or not

>>13734078
Y-Unit is great.

It's not as good as it was in J, but half of its performance in J was because of how fucking stupid the AI was.

>>13734277
>tfw PT Cannon does over 20000 damage without any damage-boosting spirits and only a handful of weapon upgrades

>>13734290
BX has the whole Inspire thing that makes everyone ridiculous.
It's not a bad idea per se, they just really need to balance it more than "bonus=pilot level" because that makes it useless early and horribly broken late game.

>>13734304
Yeah, sometimes I forget about the Inspire system being so broken. Just putting two evasion-types next to the Nadesico makes it nigh unhittable later on.

>>13734277
BX's AI goes after the Nadesico for other, just as dumb reasons. The only difference is that the J-Ark often out in front and it's almost as big of a magnet.

>>13734277
Which about sums up the AI in BX as well, every fucking thing in the game suicides on King J-der or the Nadesico.

>>13734334
>>13734337
If you ever want to bait the AI towards something, put the Nadesico and J-Ark next to the Macross Quarter.

>>13733817
>>13733872
I might try to make a comparison shot of all the Getters if Paint can make it look decent, but that's for after I get back to the computer.

As it stands, Shin Dragon is indeed pretty much the beefiest, and has combos with Shin Getter (both Toei and Neo versions), but aside from that they at least try to make the various Getters unique.

Both Shin Getters have a different kind of Regen, Getter Rekka operates on a third mechanic dictating the proportional strength of it's moves, New Getter has a Getter Rays ability, Getter Go gets a super mode, Getter Arc has elemental properties in it's finisher...

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64 has upgrade carryover, right? I won't be wasting my money by upgrading the Svanhild?

And is 64 the one where Limit is busted?

>>13734384
Pretty sure Limit is useless in 64, yeah. Also, abilities that give evasion and accuracy bonuses (Newtype, Holy Warrior, etc) act as if they're at their highest levels, giving the maximum bonus at all times. Unfortunately, the damage boost on Holy Warrior doesn't work at all.

>>13734365
>Getter Go gets a super mode

Super "mode"? Not just attachment parts?

>>13734384
>And is 64 the one where Limit is busted?

One or two games have that, but yes, 64 has that.

>>13734388
That would explain why Char was so unhittable last stage, I guess.

>>13734388
64 ESP is hilarious.

>+64% Hit/Evade

>Ibis will never be real

>>13734423
She'll always be real in your heart

>>13734393
Super mode, yeah. At least, in the menu it still starts out as Go before you trigger it to Super Getter Go. Normally parts like that would attach and become the default, like the Dendrobium or the Meteors, but for Go it seems like your standard morale thing.

Though if it does have morale requirements, maybe it'll be hilariously low. I'm not sure if some do and some don't, since you can send Fighbird for example all the way to his last form on the first turn if you have it.

>>13734334
Highest HP in range.

>>13734081
That's because IFS maxes at +25 and Hit and Evade are 1:1 in the formula.

>>13734423
>I'll never fuck her in front of you

Feels bad

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Finally, after nearly a month my copy of BX came in

>GGG on stage 1

they knew

Also the puzzle robo in this is super easy compared to earlier games. There's no longer an insane one that requires a page and a half of steps to take

>>13734485
On the other hand, in J there were a lot more L size mechs. In BX, it's just... What, Gekigangar types, generic Primevals, and a few Raijin-Oh enemies of the mooks and minibosses?

>>13734485
>Highest HP in range.
Exactly what I was referring to, it's stupid

>>13734504
>Also the puzzle robo in this is super easy compared to earlier games. There's no longer an insane one that requires a page and a half of steps to take

Do you have to download those, or do they come with the game? Because if it's the latter, then goddamnit.

>>13734158

Not even Akito? Aren't MCs of shows generally made good enough to to use?

>>13734508
I don't think I've run into an L sized Raijin-Oh enemy yet.

>>13734514

You buy them. It's...I think it was 4100 yen for all puzzle robo and all other dlc stages. 28 puzzle robo stages, I think 30 dlc scenario stages.

Thankfully the Japanese eshop takes US credit/debit cards no problem, unlike psn.

>>13734516
Satan Jrs. are IIRC. Great is, but he's a boss.

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Hey, so someone asked for some particular SRC Custom Units from VNs last time and one of them was Full Metal Daemon Muramasa.

Ok, so like I said, there was no sprites and no data done but I took a shot anyway - the thing is, I never actually read Muramasa being that it's the VN with an infamous reputation for being one of the hardest Japanese pieces of fiction to read, so everything I come up with here is from 2nd hand material sources and maybe someone who actually finished it can tell me if there's anything wrong (I'm definitely sure I missed out weapons or screwed up with the Kanji somewhere)

Also doing the research on this, apparently I had some really weird misconceptions about the units in the series - from all the PVs I saw I thought they were giant Super Robots but apparently in reality, they're more like Power Armor usually around 3m and the MC unit is only like 9m tall?

Anyway, here is the 1st form...

>>13734520

Ok yeah I just checked. I bought 5k yen worth of credit to make things easier, and I had 900 left after getting all the dlc. Thanks to the strong dollar right now, it was less in american money, came down to 42 bucks for the 5000 yen.

>>13734515
The problem with Akito is that Aestis are meant as cheap units that rely on infinite EN gimmick and their combos to be any good. In BX it's not really a problem as his combos are with the ever-present Akatsuki and BX made combos in general OP as fuck, but in J or A he ends up completely useless if you don't save Gai's ass for him to combo with.

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>>13734526
... and this is the upgraded form with added weapons (Upgrade to Rank 5 to unlock since I can't use SRC's standard upgrade method)

Are you man enough to use that final attack?

>>13734531
But then you run into the problem of Akito requiring fucking Akatsuki to be good, and neither of those asshats are worth the deployment space.

>>13734531
Even then, only one attack worth using isn't really worth the deployment slot(s).

>>13734534
is that a dog? (1 above Crino)

>>13734543
I got more use out of either of them solo then I did out of the Carrier Beagle, and everyone loves that thing. I used all three to the end.

>>13734551
Three. Since he can spam his EN moves, the Lance and Gekigan Flare are ridiculously good at handling minibosses (and mooks), and you underestimate the values of comboattacks in BX since they can do absolute batshit damage.

>>13734551
Field Lancer and Distortion Attack have really good cost-to-power ratios because they have high bases and the units are on the 1400+1350 tier.

>>13734569
>I got more use out of either of them solo then I did out of the Carrier Beagle

Twin him with GekiRyuJin

>>13734572
No, his best twin by far is 00 Quan[T]. The two work pretty much perfectly together.

>>13734569
Why bother with shitty distortion punches when you have Dunbine + Todd, or Final Jigoku Special rivaling the fucking HTB Cannon in terms of damage and spamability? Akatsuki manages to be the shittiest out of all the shit characters in Nadesico anyways so he can keep the bench nice and toasty. Akito too.

>>13734571
And 90% of mooks die in one hit from like... anything at 5 upgrades or more so it's not like cost to power matters much in BX. Everything is cheap and everything hits like a truck.

>>13734569
> you underestimate the values of comboattacks in BX since they can do absolute batshit damage.

It doesn't matter when you've got other more robust units who can pull fine numbers against bosses, not counting obvious MC units like GGG or Gorg.

>>13734515
Akito is the unusual case of an MC being worse than almost every other unit from his show, because the Aestis are built around combo attacks and Akito's are usually with Gai, who you have to go through secret requirements to save, and comes back very late when you actually do get him back so that Akito suffers through most of the game without the one good thing about the Aestivalis. BX fixes this by pairing him with Akatsuki instead, but Akatsuki is a cunt and nobody wants to deploy him ever.

The one exception I've ever found is AP, where plugging Akito in the Lunar Frame and stuffing Range parts down his throat is encouraged by the game so he can solo a boss and net you an SP Regen skill part, one of only three in the game, and doing this happens to also make him a pretty great support attacker in a game where you have to rely extensively on support attacks. However, since this also means his Range will be a few hundred points higher than his Melee, it means his combo with Gai will actually be weaker than his Lunar Frame finisher, so there's no point in saving Gai. Which is great if you're like me and hate Gai, and good even if you don't because that means you can get Master Asia instead.

>>13734580
Akito get's the bench by virtue that he sounds fucking terrible in this game.

>>13734579
Oh, that twin was alright but Gekiryujin was better in the long run but you get Quanta late as shit.

>>13734580
>And 90% of mooks die in one hit from like... anything at 5 upgrades or more
More than 5. Sometimes not even 10. 15 in most cases but you need to be at least level 45 unless you want to use an expensive attack.

>>13734588
>you get Quanta late as shit.

BX is paced like shit, news at 11.

>>13734583
There's no SP Regen part in AP. I think you mean "SP Cost Down".

>>13734597
The only grunts I had trouble one-shotting with an average unit were those annoying Raijin Oh smog monster things. And the late game purple crystal ones.

And considering how easy it is to hit 80+ by the end of the game, 45 isn't all that high.

>>13734604
That's the one.

>>13734580
Because Dunbine is shit at killing mooks due to terrible EN efficiency? And before you correct yourself to Bilbine, don't bother, it's just as bad, those fucking cannons are literally completely useless. Aestivalises can tone it down.

And saying they aren't as good as Mazinkaiser SKL is one of the stupidest things I've heard because Mazinkaiser SKL is completely and utterly broken, almost as good as King J-Der, Flit, and the Nadesico and in some regards better than all of them.

>>13734588
Not really. 32 out of 48 isn't that bad. Really late would be anything that comes after 41 if you ask me - so, the X-Aestivalis, Zwauth, Wingle Zii, the UFO, and Great Jaaku Satan.

Oh, speaking of which, decent time to mention the X-Aesti is actually an ok unit in this game.

>>13734612
Billbine and whatever Todd's thing is called are far and away better than the Aesties. It isn't even a contest.

>>13734601
My only real concerns with BX's pacing are:

>Star Gaogaigar comes absurdly fucking early, and it was done that way so they didn't have to animate normal Gaogaigar with the Goldion Hammer.
>Wizard Nu comes ABSURDLY late. He's good, but there is no reason it should have joined as late as it did.
>the tacticians get their bonuses really late
>Everything to do with the shit you get from the Raijin-Oh finale

I might quibble about the Final Mission packs lateness, but looking at when you get them in UX I'm not even going to start.

>>13734620
Bull and shit. Bilbine would be great if it had a good range move, but as it stands it's just a boss killer because its only range move hits like wet paper. Aestis at least can do damage with their range moves, leaving aside things like their pretty good MAPs.

>>13734627
>but as it stands it's just a boss killer
Really? I had it slash things after moving, same as UX, and everything turned out fine. Then again, I make no distinction between "boss-killer" and "grunt-killer". I'll let weak units kill bosses if they need the exp.

>>13733297
30 floors

>>13734627
What do the Aesties have for a good range move exactly? They have the shitty 1-4P machine guns and shitty missiles if you're in the Air frame. And how the hell does any of Billbine's melee weapons hit like wet paper? Did you not give him Size Ignore or something?

>>13734643
I don't even use them at range. They get up close and personal and do Field Lancer/Distortion Attack.

>>13734643
Those missiles are decent, mostly because IFS boosts the damage on them to reasonable levels.

>how the hell does any of Billbine's melee weapons hit like wet paper?

No one ever wanders into range to hit with Bilbine's melee moves.

>>13734635
>I'll let weak units kill bosses if they need the exp.

Well, yeah, but you're not letting the Carrier Beagle or some of the other more support oriented units do most of the damage there, you're throwing Mazinkaiser SKL, Gaogaigar, or whatever else at the thing until its HP is reduced to fine enough powder that anything can kill it. Thus, "boss killer".

>>13734662
Oh, and of course, that's not accounting for Artillery form, which is pretty goddamn good (Though it needs B Save on every pilot you make keep that form. Same with Lunar if you like that sort of thing.)

Terada just called me

OG3 will be released on April 1st 2016

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>>13734562
"Wolf-Type E-Weapon Stuka"

>>13734667
>Artillery Form
Nay, fucketh that. I'm only going to use Air and 0G.

>>13734662
Fair-enough point, I guess. Even so, Shou is the lead of his pair the whole battle through.

>>13734671
from?

>>13734662
>No one ever wanders into range to hit with Bilbine's melee moves.
Which is why you go to them you fucking idiot, same thing you have to do with the Aesties. The AI will never willingly target either of them if there's literally ANYTHING else in range, but the Aesties are tied to a slower battleship if you want to abuse their oh so amazing infinite EN for their shitty attacks, while the Nadesico is going to be taking most of the flak anyways, while Billbine can zip around all day.

>>13734677
>Nay, fucketh that. I'm only going to use Air and 0G.

You might consider trying it, they hit harder. Only problem is that if you ever need to move somewhere in a stage they're shit at that due to lack of P options, but they have MAPs - which I never needed or used, but hey, they are there, and they're not shit like all the other early MAPs - and can use their combo on every one of your turns because they're not using that EN for anything else.

>Fair-enough point, I guess. Even so, Shou is the lead of his pair the whole battle through.

Well, I had him with Wingle, so yeah, he typically was. Wasn't able to get him to an Ace on my first runthrough for some reason though (He ended at like 95, one of a very small number of people that didn't reach 100)

>>13734668

Even all jokes aside, we both know they'll give us at least half a year if not a year of knowing before release.

>>13734682
>Which is why you go to them you fucking idiot, same thing you have to do with the Aesties

No, it's the thing I do with none of my units. Those two will sit obligingly at the top of the pack, and kill all the things that aimed for Gaogaigar, the Warrior ZZ/Big Volfogg pair, or the Zaurer/Boss Borot pair that I had them dodge/defend against. And even then, things don't get into range for Bilbine to hit without the cannons a lot.

>>13734700
So you play every game like it's GC? Good to know you're just being retarded as usual then.

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>>13734121
The engine is technically scriptable and you can technically do pre-J GBA tier animations in it...

But most of the JP creators just do head sprites shooting at each other because it's WAY easier

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>>13734423
>you will always live on a different dimension from your waifu's

>>13734689
>You might consider trying it, they hit harder.
Uh, no thanks. Even at 10 upgrades Field Lancer and Distortion Attack were doing quite fine amounts of damage. Not like I ever used their EN on the enemy phase.

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>>13734680
Aoi Umi No Tristia (series of Japanese only Atelier-like games, has a meh OVA adaptation that did get subbed)

>>13734744
> That ponytail
Glorious.

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>actually putting thought into BX

This isn't fucking filename here. You can Karenfag a srw game and win.

>>13734763
Wat

>>13734782

The life of a rookie is short and pitiful.

>>13734737
Well, whatever works for you, I suppose. They do work well at the jobs they're supposed to do, though.

I'd sort of recommend the Lunar Frame because they have the technical strongest finisher, except I don't like those and said finisher has two fucking shots. Also, they get rid of the ability to regen EN fully for... EN Regen Small. Which doesn't help fuel their combo AT ALL. Fuck those things. If I want a Spaesti, I'd use the goddamn X, late join time and lack of combos be damned. Totally doing that this run though.

>>13734763
> Letting a little kid hang around a combat zone rather than having them properly take cover
They deserved it.

>>13734763
What's a Karenfag?

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>>13734968
I only know Kallen

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>>13734968
Someone who never marries any of the other characters

DEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>13734968

It's a term from pokemon, referring to Karen of the Elite Four in Gen 2 when she says

>"Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled Trainers should try to win with the Pokémon they love best."

Basically, a person who uses what they like over being a tierwhore. Karenfags are usually mocked in the pokemon community because pokemon DOES have definitive tiers and some pokemon just plain aren't viable on the competitive level.

>>13734890
The whole ship, and really everywhere in a solar system-sized radius of it, was a combat zone. There wasn't anywhere Ashura would be safe hiding.

>>13735020
Please keep /vp/'s autism in /vp/, we have enough of our own autism to deal with

>>13735032

Actually it came from Smogon, /vp/ just uses the word

Okay so I need to reduce a Vajras HP to 20% and Tobikage just showed up.
This is going to be fun

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>>13735036
Oh no, it's worse than I though

>>13735029
I phrased that wrong. It was more of a "kid should be ducking and covering, not standing around dumbly while beams are being shot off".

>>13735045
Or at least the kid should have been forced to crouch rather than just letting them stand there.

>>13735041

Hey I'll give that site credit where credit is due. They created an actual meta with real data behind it when GameFreak never gave a shit and expected everyone in multiplayer to just use legendaries. That takes dedication.

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Dunbine is great

>>13735020
>competitive level
Which...isn't all the content? I dunno, I don't play Pokemon. Closest I've ever been is Megaten games where you recruit demons.

>>13735056

Ok I'll bite, what is that

>>13735059
>Which...isn't all the content?
No, most kids just play the story and trade with their friends (which is more or less the intent of the games). The mechanics behind minmaxing is something 90% of players don't think about.

>>13735020
>implying srwgg doesn't just use gespenst and grunts over jesus yamato hax bullshit

>>13735075

Gespensts are usually really good, that's a bad example for underpowered. More like support craft.

>>13735061
Looks like some sort of Chinese Dunbine.

>>13735081
I think you're trying to say something like beating the game with Boss Borot

>>13735098

I was thinking more like the Blugars from Raideen

>>13735098
>not beating the game with Boss Borot

>>13735108
That's the point anon, some people see weak characters and bench them.
We see weak characters and take them for a spin around Jupiter fueled purely by our determination and guts.

>>13735081
>Gespensts are usually really good
Only the RV, Mk2-M Kai, and S. Unless you consider the Alt and Weiss to be Gespensts, too.

>>13735098
Boss Borot is only godawful when it's Toeizinger Borot though

>>13735133
It's not in Z, MX, and AP

>>13735137
Z1 Borot is barely better than a Gallop though. Boss and his buddies are way better off in the TFO.

>>13735137
It's range-crippled like a motherfucker in MX, and in AP you need to put someone who's not Boss inside of it and give it a terrain part for flight or space. In Z1 it's usable but I'd rather just put Boss in one of the Spazers.

Will Jam Project ever be good again?

>>13735163
Go listen to their Garo songs, the issue with them is that they do their good songs elsewhere and not for SRW for some sinister reason.

>>13735163

They seem ok when they're doing music for stuff that isn't SRW.

>>13735163
Their last few SRW songs haven't been great but the songs they did for GARO and OPM are fantastic

>>13735053
Instead the average player might as well not even bother playing because they're going to be Stealth Rocked into oblivion and prior to Gen VI they weren't even going to know why the opponent's Pokemon were all so fucking fast that it was impossible to even act. Tourneyfags get shit on because anyone who doesn't know the meta gets so utterly curbstomped by anyone who does that it's easier to just give up and go home rather than try to scale the learning curve that's a fucking cliff. And Pokemon's one of the easy ones when it comes to the learning curve.

>>13735163
Well you don't hear much of Kageyama voice in their latest works anyway.
It's more like Endou, Okui, and Kitadani = JAM nowadays.

>>13735176

It's not like tourneyfags actually play the game on the machine itself. They all use Showdown

>>13735176
>they're going to be Stealth Rocked into oblivion

Not as much anymore, the Defog buff has cut into SR usage last I checked.

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So I've been rewatching The Big O since I'm old enough to appricate what's going on other than robots punching each other in the face.

Even though it was featured in SRWZ1, a lot of it got left on the floor, no? I guess because of the nature of the series, it wouldn't have been easy to work in a lot of it.
Come to think of it, it's not even on the cover.

On the note of SRW Z1, who did you send after who on Stage 38? I'm trying to hurry up and finish Rand's route so I can get to the Special Mode, and then see how far I can get with one character fighting against the other side until I get bored of it.

Who did you guys send after who?

>>13735204
Was Alan Gabriel basically Japanese Joker?

>>13735204
>a lot of it got left on the floor, no?
In SRWD they left out even more considering that SRWD only used Big O S1.

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>>13735210
No, it's a complete coincidence and not a reference to anything at all

It's not like the same part of Sunrise that made Big O animated a decent chunk of the 90s Batman cartoon or anything

>>13735221
I just wasn't sure if Joker was the Batman character he was referencing or if there was another one in that similarly unhinged style.

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>22nd child is better
>Ashe is better
>it's not his final form

Wat

>>13735311
Edgelord detected.

I personally think the first SRW Scramble Commander is pretty bad. But it has the best Dancouga OP arrange ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-gv21L3L8M

>>13735436
As someone who beat SC, it does has issues.

>>13735458
Is the story at least as CRAZY as SC1's?

>>13735436
You can't even tell what song it is until a solid half minute in. That outclasses even GC/XO's Dancouga arrange.

>>13735468
there's no real crossover insanity. I mean the 2nd to last stage is a maze with MP EVAs and The O.

There is one stage where you fight the 3rd, 4th, and 13th angels one after another

>>13735436
What the hell, I just thought it was some kind of Battletoads remix if not for the title

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Alright, screw trying to use Paint to make a Getter comparison picture for SRC. Was anyone still interested in seeing that comparison anyway?

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Another Gundam thing I hadn't heard about until I played this game.

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Custom Units updated:
-WRONG!Tetsujin 28 & Black Ox
-Worker 8
-Full Metal Daemon Muramasa

I also made a change to the way the SV-001's self-destruct attack works - it now "transforms" you to on-foot Marco as a unit as per the original game, who isn't very good but at least you don't have to pay the repair cost if you keep him alive.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/dr95fgd7j023gv7/SRC_Custom_Units.rar

>>13735727
>pistol
>grenade
>no HEVVY MACHINEGUN
>no RAWKET LAWNCHAIR

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I don't know if that anon wanting to see Xenogears is still around, or if someone else happened to answer him, but I finally rolled it. Now if I could just find something ZOE-related for that other anon.

>>13735755
Someone posted Weltall's stats already actually, but not the upgraded Xenogears stats if you managed to get that

>>13735755
Is T-260G in the game?

>>13735755
I am, and desprately hoping that he's not all 1 range moves.

Knowing this game he probably will be anyway.

>>13735766
Nope, but he's the next on my To-Do Customs list

>>13735751
Was a really quick update to that unit - I guess I can add that later.

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>>13735764
I'll check to see if he has an upgrade in just a moment, then file-edit myself to the requirements if he has one.

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>>13735780
Yeah, he's got two upgrades. Xenogears will be incoming soon, in the meantime, here's the first upgrade.

Do you think we will ever get a trilogy like Z again?

>>13735826
I sure hope not

>>13735832
Why not I enjoy the clusterfuck plot

>>13735826
It's highly probable.

>>13735826
For smartphone and 3DS where Bandai wants it cheap? Probably not.

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>>13735820
And here he is, Xenogears itself.

>>13735868
Well, at least he had 2 attacks that aren't Range 1.

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>>13735873
He also gets to remove his limit like the rest, don't know if it's much of an improvement, but it's there.

>>13735868
Oh thank god he has range. I was worried we'd have Sitting Duck: God version on our hands.

>>13735887
Wow he even has maps. That's actually fantastic.

You know what BX needed?
Tobikage and Kali Yuga

>>13735868
>>13735887
I still need to finish that game. Stopped around the disc change point, I think.

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No coming back and draw more

>>13735927
Somebody got their driver's permit?

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Here's another one of those ones I wouldn't have expected to find in the game the first time I rolled one.

Kinda cute though.

>>13734526
I'm the anon who requested it, and that attack list does have problems, I suppose you have taken cues from simchamber, right?
Anyway, the first list should be (kinda) like this:
- Enchant Plus 1-3+ Suck the enemy in + Katana Slash (kinda like Big O's M.B. Anchor)
- Enchant Minus 1-3+ Push the enemy away + 鋼糸連擲・貫
- 飛蝗 1-2 (Dagger throw attack)
- 鋼糸連擲・貫 1-4 (Some kind of electric handgun not from original material, I've taken this from Baldr Sky Dive X's data)
- Wakizashi 1 (Small sword slash
- 鋼糸散擲・壊 1-3 (Same from Dive X, looks like a electric shotgun))
- Katana 1 (Medium sword slash)
- 電磁抜刀・呪 1-3, (Ranged battou swordwave finisher)
- 電磁撃刀・威 1-2P (Overhead finisher)
- 電磁抜刀・禍 1 (Charged katana finisher)
One more thing, Yoshino Onryuu Gassen Reihou is not an attack, it's a swordskill discipline from the Minato family.
Oh, and can you show me how to edit the game data? I want to try making my own units too.

>>13735492

I don't hear it.

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Noriko gets a cute little graphic, as it should be.

>>13735919

But I hate all the units except Tobikage itself.

>>13735961
Oh hey, Ryvius.

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>>13735944
Yeah, I tried to piece together what it was supposed to have from SimChamber and a bunch of other random JP websites.

>Oh, and can you show me how to edit the game data? I want to try making my own units too.
All custom units go into the data\ローカル folder - the bare minimum you need to do is entries in the robot.txt and pilot.txt file... of course, you might want to edit "Animation" and maybe "Pilot_Dialog" if you can actually write Japanese battle dialogue.

You can look in the SRC dungeon game files in the "data/味方" folder for examples as to how the files are supposed to be formatted. It looks really confusing at first until you eventually get used to it.

To add the units into the game, check out the CustomUnits.eve file I included - it's basically just 3 lines of scripting for each new unit - just change/replace the Unit/Pilot Name as appropriate.

>>13735936
Kouno Sachiko

>>13736007
Can't you just add the units directly into the game's main data?

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That's nice, they let you switch out to any of your preferred male F protagonists.

>>13736030
That's just asking for it to be overwritten whenever you update it to a new version whereas the "local" folder is left untouched by updates.

Plus it won't show up in the game anyway if you don't script it to do so.

>>13735944
Speaking of the Muramasa data, I just randomly entered whatever for both Kagaeki and Muramasa's spirits, so if you have better suggestions for them, I'll change it on the next pass.

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>>13736037
Scratch that, it's not all male, Patricia's one of the options for the Gespenst.

>david bowie is fucking dead
DESPAIR ROUTE IS CANON ROUTE

>>13736069
What is this, Gunbuster Episode 6 version Crossbone?

Also, post Astro Boy's (or Tatsuwan Atom whatever) stats

>>13736063
Kageaki:
Mercy
Accel
Focus
Sympathy
Soul

Muramasa:
Instinct
Trust
Assault
Enable
Love

>>13736063
Can you make a translated list of all seishins in the game? Some of which in SRC is unfamiliar to me so idk what to call them.

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>>13736090

>>13736094
There's six seishins for each pilot man.
This isn't modern DS team.

>>13735826
Depends
If these games have been planned out ahead of time on what series are going to stay and go, and how the story is going to play out between them, then I guess so.

If we're just going to be adding more into what was otherwise a great standalone, and have to cut details because we're trying to get out one a year or some shit like that, then I'll pass. I'll happily wait many years for a great SRW like Z rather than have something like Z2 and have it cut in half. Less said about Z3, the better.

>>13736106
>If these games have been planned out ahead of time on what series are going to stay and go, and how the story is going to play out between them, then I guess so.

You say that like the Alpha series wasn't written on the seat of their pants.

>>13736088
I don't want to check if that's true or not.
I don't wanna.

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>>13736096
Look up page/sp.html in the SRC Dungeon folder and just use the Japanese names so we can avoid things like "Which Faith are we talking about, the SP restoration one or the Healing one?"

>>13736111

There are things we all have to accept anon

>>13736110
I'm certainly not saying that the Alpha series is any better in that regard.

I especially don't like how yet again, Late UC units are the first to get the boot in @3, while the entire gang from 0083, Zeta and ZZ Gundam get to hang around, and it's literally right after Crossbone's first and only time in a SRW.

But basically, I'd rather a good stand-alone game than have a trilogy, because it always means compromises and an arguable decrease in quality

>>13736105
Oh.

Well then.

How about.
Kageaki:
Mercy
Accel
Focus
Yell
Sympathy
Soul

Muramasa:
Instinct
Trust
Gain
Assault
Enable
Love

>>13736111
'16 is trying to impress '15.

>>13736118

I'm starting to think Late UC just plain isn't popular in Japan considering they barely use anything further than Unicorn.

If anyone has there 3ds hacked like i do,
https://mega.nz/#F!qMd0CBaI!0RubVYqPVGBXFA9ozbU3CA

I found SRW BX but I think it needs to be a cia
If anyone can make a cia for it we could play.
I looked around for a SRW UX cia and there was one on 3dsiso but all the links for it are dead.
If any of you has a cia for that game it would be cool to share.

>>13736088
What the fuck. Lemmy just died last month and now David Bowie is dead too!? Give me a fucking break!

>>13736127
SRW .cia files are so five threads ago.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/e666a86gl1sbuur/Super_Robot_Wars_BX.rar

http://www.mediafire.com/download/l8vkyoq05x6e3y5/Super_Robot_Wars_UX.cia

>>13736106
>If these games have been planned out ahead of time on what series are going to stay and go
The big problem is that their plans constantly get ruined because of licensing issues - Giant Robo anyone?

>>13736131
NICE,thank you.
Thank god for /m/.
Its sad that fe fate got a whole translation somehow and I cant even find a cia for these games without coming here.
Im guessing these games are region free and work on rxtools?
Should i play UX first or BX?
but it seems 3ds translation is not hard, at least hacking wise snice two groups are doing monster hunter and fire emblem. maybe we could get these translated one day.

>>13736120
Why should Muramasa have Assault? The Armor has little to no ranged attacks. Should have changed that to Flash. Gain should be changed to Accel, so Kageaki could have Invincible
Also, what is Sympathy?

>tfw no SRW to play
>tfw can't play old SRW because they are not pretty

welp

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>>13736140
>Its sad that fe fate got a whole translation somehow
That isn't a good thing

>>13736161
>can't play old SRW because they are not pretty

Stop being a faggot, yes you can

>>13736163
yeah but they got it in less than 3 months, and i hear its not that bad besides some....
editing issues.
but for a whole game like FE to get translated in such a short time is crazy compared to how long we have to wait for anything...
Im guessing there has been no word on alpha..

>>13736170

I believe in Gideon to eventually deliver

Is ux animation wise on par with bx, or did bx really make it better? just wondering which I should play first and not suffer with the other. Do both have some of the same series?
>>13736173
Has he said, well anything at all? He didn't release anything for Christmas?

>>13736175
>Has he said, well anything at all? He didn't release anything for Christmas?

I could've sworn last summer he came here and posted "Summer 2016. No really, I'm serious this time. Probably"

>>13736175
>Is ux animation wise on par with bx, or did bx really make it better?

The sprites in UX while nice are much more noticably lower quality sprites than BX. UX feels like upscaled DS sprites half the time.

>>13736186
Ah yeah even with bx in swear it looks the same as srw j.

>>13736188

What? GaoGaiGar has never looked better animation-wise.

The Aestis kinda look the same, but at this point I'm convinced they're doing it on purpose because they ALWAYS do that.

So I can now see how Demonbane plays and also hear this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v38DcYzyHuI

in a srw.
>>13736190
Im only basing it off youtube videos, but now that im about to play them i can check them out.

>>13736194

The game definitely looks a lot better on-screen than on YT. Remember the difference in screen size and resolution between the two

Has gatchan come back?