>>13724461 I get the sense that she's going to job hard in this one, which is too bad since I like her, but she smells strongly of insecurity and overcompensation.
This'll probably be to contrast with the I-couldn't-care-less MC who will effortlessly out do her in every category and still not care.
also does anybody else think that blondRanka might be a red herring for the love triangle, as she never really shows any interest in the MC and is obsessed with Walkure, and the actual third part is confident and capable Mikumo whom the MC will inevitably meet?
Also seeing as Mirage's VA is a singer, what are the odds she's going to get booted out of her VF at the end and have to play the unwilling idol to sing some crescendo song at the end for the MC to pull through?
Yeah, really. If she is descended from Max and Millia, she could able to take any other pilot in the fleet in a fight and STILL be the runt of the litter because she couldn't take on ten more guys at the same time.
She doesn't just have to be good. Due to her background, everyone is going to expect her to be the hottest shit they have ever seen.
Thats got to be a lot of pressure.
Bonus points if she is one of the kids that M&M adopted rather than birthed, for that extra level of insecurity. "Oh, its okay. Everyone understands why you are not amazing. Its not like you are a REAL Jenius..."
>>13725075 >Due to her background, everyone is going to expect her to be the hottest shit they have ever seen. It would be better if that wasn't the case, and all the pressure just stems from herself because her name is attached to the legends.
I mean, pressure from the outside is pretty unfair, seeing as people aren't like their parents and even if they were they shouldn't be pushed to do the same things as they
However, giving what I've seen from the preview, I can kinda see the pressure being all from herself, since you know, every person in the galaxy that knows what Max and Millia did in their lives is gonna act amazed when she mentions her last name. It's like she thinks people are pressuring her when they just look surprised when they met one member of the famous family.
>>13725219 >I mean, pressure from the outside is pretty unfair,
Well that's the idea. The world isn't fair. I hate to be the one to break this too you but a lot of the time people, especially Japanese people, are held up to the lofty standards of their family.
Max and Milia where probably great to her but they're not here and the rest of the military is only going to know them via reputation and will thus expect similar things from Mirage.
> I can kinda see the pressure being all from herself, since you know, every person in the galaxy that knows what Max and Millia did in their lives is gonna act amazed when she mentions her last name. It's like she thinks people are pressuring her when they just look surprised when they met one member of the famous family.
and I certainly agree but this kind of pressure can't just come from one source. She has the external pressure of people expecting her to live up to her families legacy and her own pressure in not wanting to fall short of these expectations.
How many Jenus..es joined the military after MnM anyways? Mylene was only indirectly involved with them and was more interested in singing and Emeria fucked off to who knows where and was likewise more interested in singing.
>>13725249 >How many Jenus..es joined the military after MnM anyways? Mylene was only indirectly involved with them and was more interested in singing and Emeria fucked off to who knows where and was likewise more interested in singing. That's what I meant with it being unfair. We haven't seen other Jeniuses being under pressure from the outside, as most of them didn't a conflict of falling short. I could happen, as I wasn't denying the possibility nor that the world isn't unfair, but I think we'll see her struggle more with pressure from herself.
>>13725283 >We haven't seen other Jeniuses being under pressure from the outside
We didn't see that many Jenuses who had anything to live up too. We saw Mylene who was the family baby and given free reign to do whatever and Emeria who bailed.
Mirage is the only one we know of that is actually following in the families footsteps so any one in the military who knows of Max and Miria (everybody) is of course going to,perhaps unfairly, expect their daughter to live up to their example.
>>13725249 >How many Jeniuses joined the military after Max and Milia anyways? IIRC their eldest Komilia did. But unfortunately the game that featured her was removed from canon since it followed the Macross II timeline.
>>13727656 I don't think that anon was particularly painting Mirage as a bad pilot. However there are some retards who use that to bash and shitpost that she doesn't have god tier combat skills like Max or Milia and that she doesn't "meet their standards" whatever that's suppose to mean.
>>13727656 >She makes a mistake I think there might probably be a few more mistakes rather than a single mistake. When the hail of bullets came in, everyone broke off to dodge the bullets, she stayed more or less on the same course, she evaded the shots, but that's a rather risky move. After she got surprised and attacked by the Ghosts(I guess?), she was briefly falling out of the sky after getting hit(And as far as we know, her VF was still operational after that). Someone came in, shot down one of the Ghosts, and she switches to gerwalk and shoots down the other.
Rather than bad, it's likely that she's good but can't deal with multiple enemies due to bad multitasking ability.
>>13727685 Personally, I'm not placing expectations on Mirage, because she's not real. Rather, I feel somewhat put out that Kawamori decided to make her the least capable pilot in Delta. There's a strain of disrespect that runs through the episode.
It remains to be seen what, if anything, Delta will do with Mirage, but I was a little disappointed. That was partially my fault because before going in I had got caught up in a little self-made hype, so we'll see what happens.
>>13727695 >I've had my fill of stupidly annoyingly over competent women. I just want to see her crash and burn. The fuck are you saying? Mirage wasn't even displaying she was over competent at all. You're pretty much contradicting your own statement dumbass.
>>13727690 Well personally her tracking system was still being jammed that time. She probably didn't even know that the Ghost drones were there until she got hit. Fortunately she had good recovery and was able to react quickly to destroy one of the drones. I'd think she's a competent pilot but just lacks some combat experience.
>>13727716 >was able to react quickly to destroy one of the drones That's not hard when the drones are flying straight instead of doing crazy maneuvers and 90-degree turns. The pretty-boys need better ghosts.
>>13727727 Try watching it again. Though the drones were not doing high speed maneuvers (like Itano Circus) they weren't flying in a straight line either. They're still Ghosts and can still attempt to evade attacks on it.
>>13727952 I wouldn't exactly call Mirage the weakest as its still too early to tell. She is however Delta squadron's rookie pilot so its understandable if she's not completely synced yet. Beside she was only late by split second when they took off. And honestly I don't how her "stage performance" should determine her ranking combat-wise.
>>13727980 She show goes out of its way several times to show her making mistakes. It didn't do that for any of the other pilots. The severity of the mistakes is irrelevant to the fact that she's clearly being introduced as "the rookie who doesn't quite have her shit together yet."
>>13728006 >She show goes out of its way several times to show her making mistakes She didn't have several mistakes. Her only real mistake was when they were fighting the Aerial Knights who aren't your standard pilots. And her slight lateness after their posing wouldn't even be considered as a mistake. Hayate was the only one who noticed it. Seriously you're being a little bit too hard on Mirage.
>>13728043 >Hayate was the only one who noticed it. Hayate was the only one who commented on it. That doesn't mean he's the only one who noticed it. And even if it was just a fraction of a second late, a mistake is still a mistake. All of the other pilots were in perfect formation there.
I'm not saying Mirage is some kind of shit pilot. The fact that she's even in Delta Squadron indicates that she's highly skilled. But compared to the other pilots in the group, she clearly has some catching up to do.
She clearly has more to do than that, given that Messer comments that she's too straight-forward and incapable of working undercover because of it. I would hazard a guess that she's over thinking a lot of things in order to try and get everything perfect, presumably because of her family legacy, though Kawamori may not place as much weight on that as we do and because she's over-thinking she's tripping herself up and creating problems where if she'd just relax and be a little more flexible and let instinct take the seat on occasion she'd probably handle things better.
She's just too straight laced and uptight and it's holding her back. Mikumo is wandering the streets in what at least looks like casual wear (if rather expensive casual wear), even if she has an ex-gear on in reality, while Mirage is wearing a uniform. Everyone is keeping it low key and just concentrating on finding signs of Var, Mirage is very back straight, eye's forward and wants to check out even crimes that don't really concern her. Even her movements are very stiff and formal looking, especially that bow of apology.
>>13728897 >And even if it was just a fraction of a second late, a mistake is still a mistake As I mentioned previously she was slightly late only when they took off and she was in synced with the rest until that which hardly constitutes as a mistake. Even professional aerial performers aren't 100% in synced all the time. Hayate seems to have an eye for minute details since it implies he's a natural pilot. Like you said it doesn't mean Mirage is a bad pilot but definitely she has a lot room for improvement.
>>13729239 >Messer comments that she's too straight-forward and incapable of working undercover because of it Actually Messer did not say that at all about Mirage but berates Chuck for not focusing on the job. Only Arad makes a knee-jerk comment of her being naive.
Though Mirage is indeed uptight and inflexible as given in her character description I think you're looking into her too far about pressuring herself due to her family legacy. We really don't know much about her aside that she shares Max and Milia's last names, obviously part Zentradi, and member of the Delta squadron.
What disturbs me though if she has problems going undercover then why do they even deploy her in the first place? One could say so she can gain some field experience. But from Mikumo's and Arad's conversation it sounds like they haven't pointed out Mirage's issues nor do they care since it wasn't Mikumo's first time to ditch her on such a mission.
>>13724973 >Mirage's VA is a singer What if she's unwillingly forced to sing and ends up being at almost the same level as Walkure in terms of potent songmagic, and ends up having to sing while fighting?
> As I mentioned previously she was slightly late only when they toook off
We only see them flying in formation for a few seconds covering two maneuvers and she's off in at least one of them. And if you watch the landing she seems a little off in that too. Which is understandable, since again, she's the newbie, so she's not going to be as practiced or synchronized as the others. But again, when put in concert with the rest of the episode which has people implying that she's not good at certain kinds of work and arresting the wrong person it builds a picture that she's prone to mistakes despite herself.
> Actually Messer did not say that at all about Mirage
I appear to have conflated Messner and Arad, since I thought they were the same character for some reason. Regardless, Arad calls her Ms Straightforward in the episode when talking to Mikumo, at least according to the sub I have, from a group called [bwq]. I have no idea what he says in the GG one, or which is more accurate, but I'd say the [bwq] has a high probability of accuracy given the way she acts in the show itself. I did get confused and attribute Mikumo's comment that Mirage can't work undercover to Arad as well though.
> I think you're looking too far about pressuring herself due to her family legacy
She's certainly straight laced and uptight for some reason and family is as good a reason as any. Maybe it's different, but based off the little we know of her so far, there's at least some chance it's true.
> why do they even deploy her in the first place?
Because that's the way the setup works by the looks of things. Pilot and idol working together. Mikumo doesn't like how conspicuous Mirage is and is and prefers to investigate covertly instead of overtly like Mirage may prefer so she ditches her. It's possible to conduct such investigations in the open too after all, and that's probably the way Mirage would prefer they do it.
>>13732348 >>13732437 >>13732477 Between those two, "Ms. Straightforward" is the somewhat more accurate representation of the line. He's not outright rude about it, he's just indicating that she's not cut out for subtlety.
>>13734866 Protoculture is some kind of ancient civilization that's responsible for seeding and/or uplifting pretty much all sentient life in the galaxy. Deculture is just a Zentradi expression of shock or surprise, generally used when they run into culture shenanigans.
>>13734679 >condom The entire human race was reduced down to the people on the Macross, and a few hundred thousand people scattered in various bunkers on earth. The threat of another Zentradi fleet finding humans and wiping them out still existed.
They also have Alien Overtechnology that makes everything abundant.
So there was a duty for Max to have as many children as possible.
They had such a dire need to raise the human population. That they resorted to using the cloning machines that produce new Zentradi soldiers. To make copies of humans to put on Macross colony fleets.
>>13732348 >And if you watch the landing she seems a little off in that too. I watched that part several times and Mirage wasn't off on the landing at all. It might look that way due to the angle and that Messer's valkyries was covering Chuck's as they landed. Try watching it per frame and you'll see its quite fluid.
>Because that's the way the setup works by the looks of things. Doesn't seem exactly that way. Only Mikumo and Reina were paired up with a pilot. Makina was pretty much going solo while Arad and Messer where still at their base monitoring the city.
>Mikumo doesn't like how conspicuous Mirage is and is and prefers to investigate covertly instead of overtly like Mirage may prefer so she ditches her. Regardless of Mikumo's preference that was still awfully disrespectful towards Mirage and quite frankly unprofessional with working with her assigned partner for that mission. Mikumo should have at least been direct with her instead of ditching without notice.
>>13736223 >He really needs a male descendant to spread that genetic material around. This is rather odd in the case of Mirage since all of Max's children are female. If they follow human tradition the males take their last names with them. If Mirage is indeed directly related to Max and Milia then her mother isn't married to anyone. Or she might be related by second degree like grand uncle and grand aunt but it doesn't explain why she also has Millia maiden name.
>>13736258 There are a few things I can think of--like you say, maybe her mother wasn't married, or like >>13736267 mentioned sometimes men take their wive's last name. It's also possible neither parent changed their name when they got married and Mirage took her more famous parent's last name. My own mom didn't take my dad's last name when they married, for some reason or another.
>>13736258 >This is rather odd in the case of Mirage since all of Max's children are female. If they follow human tradition the males take their last names with them. Then you are misinformed about human tradition.
The tradition is that the STRONGER, more prestigious family, gets to keep the name. So a wealthy heiress or other noble who married a commoner, would have kept her name and have her name passed down to the children. This applies in both East and West.
The whole "male keep the name" is just a side effect of most females being less historically dominant in the relationship when the two people are otherwise equal in status.
The most famous case that applies in the West today, is Queen Elisabeth the Second, and her "Windsor" name being passed down to her children. While her husband's House, Glücksburg, is not relevant.
>>13736661 >So... you're saying that Gamlin might've won the Mylenebowl after all? I am saying the Jenius name is so prestigious that it is nearly impossible to find a man who would want to supersede it. I can't promise more than that.
Too true, but I guess only time will tell. I am legitimately glad that they made good on the whole "swappable weapons container" thing. Since I was kind of let down that it wasn't as moddable (Or moddable at all) in Macross 30.
>>13746421 Honestly the YF-30 was pretty flawed design and that's probably why Kawamori redesigned it for Delta. >missile container couldn't extend in fighter mode without dropping the gunpod and clipping through the model >no micro-missile ports on the legs >wings don't fold very well in battroid >no storage for assault knife All of those problems were fixed with the 31.
>>13746496 The 30 and 31 are clearly pretty expensive as well. It seems like the fancy fold quartz based systems are the main cost issue, and the newer models still have those. There's a reason the 30 and 31 are a one-off prototype and a limited-production ace machine, respectively.
>>13746372 >>13746402 Right. But even the VF-25 had some Fold Quartz on the fuselage (the nose at least). I always just assumed it was part of the improved ISC/Fold Wave System in the YF-29 and was simply a hold over in the YF-30 (that turned out to be useful for the aforementioned Fold Dimensional Resonance system in the YF-30).
One point of contention that occurred to me recently is the fact that the YF-30's engines are only 5kN stronger than the YF-29's (main) engines. Considering that ECA/PPB uses excess energy from engines for protection, doesn't the YF-29 have stronger armor and higher output beam weapons simply because it has more engines? Not to mention mobility.
So far the VF-31's weapon container pod can only be a missile pod or store the beam gunpod. I don't doubt that it can fire it from the back mount, which is cool, but I get the general feeling that the YF-30/VF-31 has less firepower specifically because it has less potential power output being limited to two engines (barring any option packs we see in the future for the VF-31 considering how much more power the VF-25 Armored has).
At the end of the day though, I think that having the YF-29 fulfill an extremely-high power special forces niche in terms of valkyries is a good place for it to be. The VF-31 seems to be an improvement on the "modular multipurpose" design of the VF-25, which is cool though. Can't wait to see this generation's super prototype.
>>13746473 >missile container couldn't extend in fighter mode without dropping the gunpod and clipping through the model I remembered being bothered about this while playing Macross 30 but I totally forgot about this. The twin gunpods on the arms and the beam one in storage make a lot more sense inside this context. Good on Kawamori fixing that, this makes me like the VF-31 even more than I already did.
>no micro-missile ports on the legs And the YF-29 had a fuck-load of those.
>no storage for assault knife Don't forget that the PPB shields on the VF-31's arms on much bigger/thicker than the YF-30's.
>>13746496 I get the feeling that the VF-31's gunpod is actually a beam gunpod, but that it isn't MDE spec'd. I say that partially because Al Shalahal doesn't seem to have VF-171EXs and MDE tech in general was specifically for created to fight Vajra. That would explain why the VF-31's gunpod looks so different from its predecessor's beam gunpods.
That's probably why the YF-30 shared the exact same MDE beam gunpod with the YF-29, because there were Vajra on Planet Ouroboros and Aisha assumed Leon would continue fighting them even after she finished the YF-30. Chalk another one up for the YF-29 then, I guess.
>>13746614 Honestly, I think that's the case at this point. The VF-31 isn't really a superior machine to the YF-29 at all. Though that's not surprising considering the YF-29 was developed for massive firepower against the Vajra. The VF-31 seems like exactly the kind of craft you develop after the post-Vajra War insanity when you don't plan on needing to go to such extreme developmental measures again anytime in the near future.
That's not to say I don't like the VF-31, I'm definitely enjoying the technological speculation and I can't wait for the eventual VF-31 masterfile (and its eventual translation).
>>13746798 >I say that partially because Al Shalahal doesn't seem to have VF-171EXs and MDE tech in general was specifically for created to fight Vajra. That would explain why the VF-31's gunpod looks so different from its predecessor's beam gunpods. I don't think Al Shalahal is Walkure/Delta squadron's home base. It might be planet Ragna. And here's a better shot of the VF-31's gunpod if you're interested.
>>13746837 >>13746843 >That is a very nice looking gunpod. Why yes it is. I've saved every pic of it I possibly could. It definitely has a unique look that sets it apart from even the other beam gunpods.
I wonder if the VF-31 will continue the VF-25's trend of being able to be loaded to the teeth with underwing ordinance. So far, I haven't seen any hardpoints.
>>13746798 >YF-29 was developed for massive firepower against the Vajra It was made specifically to deal with the Vajra, no?
The fold wave jamming/relay ability, the heavy firepower, the really good mobility, it all points to anti-Vajra. The weapon layout also seem to imitate the Vajra in some places. >turret mounted on the back >missile launchers everywhere on the body
>>13746847 >I wonder if the VF-31 will continue the VF-25's trend of being able to be loaded to the teeth with underwing ordinance. So far, I haven't seen any hardpoints. Here's an undershot of Arad's VF-31. You can see four underwing hardpoints, two of those end up being the shields for battroid so it'd have shield missiles.
>>13746851 >It was made specifically to deal with the Vajra, no? Indeed, though any kind of firepower that could decimate Vajra would be pretty much be super effective on all other enemies you could possibly face.
I remember reading somewhere that the YF-29's Fold Wave System increases the efficiency of the engines using fold waves. Could that be the reason Alto's patched together airframe exceeded the original prototype's specs? The fold waves that Sheryl and Ranka produced boosted the specs?
>>13747900 I was going to point to the YF-29 but it's obvious that some of its features were pioneered by the VF-27 first: beam gunpod, auxiliary wing engines. How though? Did Shinsei have some people inside General Galaxy or something during the VF-27's development? Is it just coincidental convergent evolution?
At the end of the day, the VF-25 is the VF-27's contemporary, not the YF-29. So yeah, General Galaxy has always developed valkyries that have higher specs. That makes them poorly suited for mass production though so one must wonder why the hell they keep submitting designs to the mass production competitions specifically instead of, I dunno, developing these valkyries for export to special forces units from the very start?
>>13748114 Also note that Brera had Alto completely in his sights at the end of their fight, he was only stopped by the implant jamming. As far as the YF-29 sharing features the official explanation is that General Galaxy was the one who had agents in LAI during the 29's development and that information was applied to the 27's design.
>>13748114 Well, the YF-29 is just the VF-25 with the Tornado Pack integrated into the body. Meanwhile the VF-27 is basically just a YF-24 with Super Parts integrated into the body.
So... they both ended up doing the same thing, really, because it's the next logical step. Unless you wanna change the entire fundamental structure of the fuselage, what else can you do other than add shit onto the wings?
>>13747900 But are they mass-production/grunt friendly? Your VF being slightly better is no use if your VF isn't grunt friendly at all and doesn't satisfy the needs of your customer. Both the 19 and 21 were more suited as special forces VFs at the end of the day.
The 25 is made to be versatile as fuck with multiple specialised variants and lots of option packs. The 27 apparently only has 2 variants, Beta and Gamma, and there isn't any visible difference between them, probably just internal hardware differences. Only known option pack is the Ghost booster Super pack Brera had in the movie. You also need a cyborg pilot for it. The shortcoming of the 27 just ain't worth the extra performance for a grunt machine.
Besides, the 25 being able to take a variety of option packs makes it easy to boost its base firepower/maneuverability if needed. VF-25 with a Super pack is considered to be equal with the VF-27, the VF-25 with a Tornado pack is a shittier YF-29, if you need firepower/defensive you go with the Armored pack.
>>13748186 >But are they mass-production/grunt friendly? What does that have to do with anything? The original post was calling them shovelware, if anything a mass production inferior unit fits that label much more than a more expensive higher quality unit.
>>13748186 Fun fact: YF-29 has less missiles then the VF-25 Armored but actually has the same amount of defense due to the number/efficiency of its engines. Having essentially unlimited ammo for all of its main weapons is a bonus too.
>>13749301 >She also, coincidentally, has the same genetic defect as Klan that makes her loli when she's small. She doesn't look as loli as Klan though. Did they ever show how she looks as a giant? I hope she didn't look like a granny if she's really old.
That's literally only true about the VF-27 in comparison to the VF-25. And that's really just the vanilla VF-25 at that. They're pretty comparable when the 25's got the super pack as far as everything except armaments is concerned.
The YF-19 did every bit as well as, if not better in some areas, than the YF-21 as well.
And we don't really have enough info on the Draken III to make a fair comparison between it and the Siegfried.
>>13749238 >Frontier in general was bad at using obvious weapons on the models in cases where they would have been useful. That's not really a Frontier problem but an /m/ problem in general. Gundams either rarely use their head vulcans (when they have them) despite both being in close combat and having a hard time of it or they are a last resort weapon that only exists to show how useless they are. The same goes for the beamguns on valkyries. They never use them until the animators remember them.
I appreciated the little scene in Frontier's final episode during Northern Cross when Alto is shooting towards the camera and shooting the head guns too. Or when he used them to cut a hole to free Ranka. Then I scratched my head in Sayonara no Tsubasa when he was fleeing from Brera's missiles but only used the dual beam cannon to shoot them down instead of using them in conjunction with the head lasers.
At least we see Messer use them when he shoots down the missiles in Delta, huh?
>>13750068 There are a TON of moments like that in mecha shows in general. Any naked space ghost scene in Gundam, scenes in Evangelion, and anything ani/m/e that came out in the past 3 years is especially cringeworthy.
>>13750100 My dad likes that kind of stuff though; he introduced me to it.
Delta's more generic anime we-want-the-love-live-audience waifubait Dad walks in than 80's-90's Sci-Fi anime psychadelic weirdness Dad walks in. One can be written off as a quirky element of a genre, the other's going to raise some serious eyebrows about your maturity
>>13750286 >One can be written off as a quirky element of a genre, the other's going to raise some serious eyebrows about your maturity You're watching japanese toy commericials and you most likely have models of said toys in your room. Your maturity has been in question since you started watching mecha. Don't act like idols are below toy robots on the maturity scale. It's embarrassing.
>>13750325 But anon, he has more of those than I do. and I haven't lived there for years
In any case, I really meant it as a general expression rather than a literal one. Delta just looks like it took any reasonable sense of taste, tone, and execution and threw it out the window for bad anime/sentai cliches that, while not entirely out of place in the Macross Universe, don't exactly complement it very well, either. Even the artstyle doesn't stand out at all. I'm not really feeling it. I loved Frontier, but this is one Macross I think I can afford to miss out on.
>>13750430 I don't know how he feels about Eva but he's super into 80's mecha anime like Zeta Gundam, L Gaim, and Dragonar. He even has Hidetaka Tenjin paintings printed out, framed, and hung in his basement. My first exposure to Beyond the Time was from our car stereo, not the movie. I keep telling him to watch Eva, but he never gets around to it.
Only reason my step mom puts up with it is because he brings in serious bank.
>>13750438 >Delta just looks like it took any reasonable sense of taste, tone, and execution and threw it out the window for bad anime/sentai cliches that, while not entirely out of place in the Macross Universe, don't exactly complement it very well, either. Not him but that's purely from a subjective viewpoint. Personally it complements it quite well and just follows the natural progression of the series. The "magical girl" themes was very apparent in Frontier with Sheryl and Ranka in Frontier so I don't how you consider that an issue if you very much liked it. The only difference is Walkure are also in the battlefield and aren't in the background playing as support.
>>13751758 I think the YF-24 family (25, 27, 29) was the ideal family to have swords, because of those little hip parts that are part of the wing root in fighter mode. Those could've easily been extended under the wing and been an awesome sheathe.
>>13753581 Is there a point in doing so? Functionally, the Supervision Army are just Zentradi who are fighting for the other Protoculture faction. The only thing they had that the Zentradi didn't are reaction weaponry (it isn't explicitly stated that the Supervision Army is capable of repairing things). It would just be a re-hash of SDF Macross.
>>13753581 It's a mop up operation. Supervision Army aren't taking on the Zentradi Army head on they are attacking their supply lines through Factory Satellites.
>>13754397 Protodevlin actually. While the modern Supervision Army are giants back during the Protodevlin War they had Protoculture among them. This cause chaos among Zentradi as they are programmed not to shoot Protoculture (Miclones). The Protoculture had no choice but rescind those orders. When the the fighting was over 85% of the Protoculture was lost numbering in the hundreds of billions thus a broken chain of command over the Zentradi. Only a few of the Zentradi main fleets received the order not to interfere with the Protoculture (Miclones).
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