>tfw I really, really liked SEED
>tfw I liked SEED Destiny too
>tfw I didn't like Stargazer
/m/ hates me.
>I enjoy bad shows in an ironic way
I mean I can't fault you if you enjoy that's entirely up to you but Cross Ange was a shit show. Stuff like that only appeals to people who are still endlessly chasing Geass Sundays trying to recapture the feeling of watching a trainwreck series.
>>tfw I really, really liked SEED
Okay, sounds good. I loved it too.
>>tfw I liked SEED Destiny too
Kinda odd, but to each his own I guess.
>>tfw I didn't like Stargazer
Then you better get a new face, because Stargazer was fucking amazing.
>/m/ hates me.
No, only 33.33% of you.
Not too bad.
Fukuda has said that he first pitched Cross Ange around the time the SEED movie was shut down. No one wanted to make CA but he persisted, and finally in late 2012 he was given the greenlight.
The year before, Banrise decided to celebrate SEED's 10th anniversary by releasing the show on BD. Upon realizing that the show they paid so much for (3x the average anime budget) would look horrid on BD, they decide to reanimate as much as they can in a Remastered version. They have Fukuda helm the project, his first work since SEED Destiny.
Remaster sells, Banrise gives Fukuda CA to shut him up. They don't let him direct either, not wanting a repeat of Destiny's behind the scenes fiasco. CA ends up with only average sales figures, but Fukuda tells his fans it was successful enough that they could make more. He goes on to bemoan Sunrise instead wanting to focus on "a long running series."
Yeah, CA was probably a favor and nothing more. I sincerely doubt he'll get work anytime soon.
>Fukuda has said that he first pitched Cross Ange around the time the SEED movie was shut down. No one wanted to make CA but he persisted, and finally in late 2012 he was given the greenlight.
That fake interview from the event was confirmed to be bullshit, anon.
Cyber Formula worked because Fukuda had something like 3 silent co-creators and had nothing to do with the writing up until SIN. When SIN came out and he was put in full command and made his wife in charge of the script the series went downhill after that.
(Re-Watching the whole series again recently made me realize that Gundam SEED & Destiny were just bits and pieces of various CF story arcs spliced together and given Gundams instead of super robot-like cars.)
Fukuda reminds me a little of George Lucas almost: You could see a lot of passion and actual talent in his earlier works (CF up to the ZERO OVA, Dendoh), but later on he got full of himself, starting taking credit for others ideas and let his status as "The Guy"/"The Director" get to his head and cloud his judgement (CF SAGA & SIN, SEED & SEED Destiny).
With George Lucas, Lucas made him name recreating they types of movies he watched as a kid. Star Wars, Indiana Jones,Red Tails, these were all meant to be throwbacks to an older era of cinema for better or for worse.
Post SEED, Fukuda has said he intended to bring Gundam back to it's roots and specifically mentions wanting it to be like shows like Combattler V. Anyone who knows anything about the creation process of 0079 knows that it was made in an attempt to break away from those kinds of shows.
Both have made some controversial changes to their works in later edits. Han not shooting first, Nicol's death looking like an accident.
Star Wars, from all reports, was only made watchable through the efforts of the editors. Major contributors to Gundams SEED's success was the musical/voice talent, character/mecha designs, even the melodramatic dialogue played a part in it (This was before Morosawa took over scriptwriting duties in Destiny). I don't think Fukuda played that much of a role, he didn't want to make SEED a war story but had to be convinced otherwise. He just gets credited because he's the guy in charge of the more talented people.
Adding to that, the big difference is their marital status. Whereas Lucas broke up with his wife, Fukuda still has his. Unfortunately, she's proven to not be that good of a writer, on top of being someone that wouldn't say no to his dumber ideas (let alone the controversies surrounding her involvement with SEED Destiny).
Luke Skywalker is Lucas's self-insert that has romantic moments with a princess later revealed to be his sister.
Kira is believed to be Fukuda's self-insert, and has romantic moments with a princess later revealed to be his sister.
It just occurred to me. SEED was Fukuda's first 4-cour series. And in both SEED and Destiny, the fourth cour is always the weakest one where he tries to reinvent the show.
Just an observation.
I fucking loved all three of them. I think the CE is super interesting and I would love to see more. I was shocked with Cross Ange too as I enjoyed that
Along with the delicious designs
I thought professionally, his fall from grace was GSD. I mean, yeah. It was a hit but he ended up pissing off a large portion of the Gundam fanbase, pissed off a bunch of SEED fans, pissed of Bandai with weak gunpla sales according to rumors, pissed off the production staff, pissed off the voice actors, and pissed off Sunrise by wasting the shows large budget on something that looks completely amateur. Even if he had delivered on the movie, I doubt they would have given him much work afterwards.
>Upon realizing that the show they paid so much for (3x the average anime budget) would look horrid on BD, they decide to reanimate as much as they can in a Remastered version.
Yeah as opposed to those other digital SD shows that look so good on BD.
But fuck it this is the make shit up so you can masturbate to each other containment thread so why am I interrupting your fun
Beargguy gonna raid your fridge for saying that!
Cross Ange was the worst possible version of what you describe. It was really bad. At least with Code Geass I liked some parts and the end was okay. Ergo, I like shows that appear to wreck but actually don't.
At this point, whatever he'd make would at least be more entertaining that what we've gotten as of late, even if it's going to crash and burn with the brilliance of a thousand suns.
Even IBO would be better if he was put on it. I'm sure it'd also crash and burn, but with far more beauty than what we're getting. He'd probably make Kudelia less useless too. On the other hand, Atra might end up like pudding girl.
>On the other hand, Atra might end up like pudding girl.
Roughly speaking, four times the budget of your average anime.
I'll never understand why they made this change. I guess it was cheaper, as typical from Fukuda.
>Mr. Fukuda the blood needs a little tweaking in the Blu Ray
>nah just make it bright
>it costs a fourth of what crimson does
>but it'll look awkward, Mr. Fukuda
>nah just leave it like that, they'll buy it for Nana
Them lesbians, though.
It showed. Bless that show.
>they said I could be a Para-mail pilot
It showed girls pissing themselves, I guess? Say what you will about Cross Ange, but I can't think of any other series that go quite that far.
>"mfw I get killed off 2 episodes in"
Celebrity and A-List VAs ate up a bunch of it. Also, the OST. Considering how behind schedule the show was, I'd think they would have brought in more animators to make up for lost time... but then we have animators saying Fukuda insisted on stock footage and reusing as much SEED footage as he could. I mean, we never got that heavily damaged SF vs. heavily damaged Destiny fight they advertised going into the finale.
Here's a crazy thought; Those numbers are just how much of a budget he has for each episode, not how much he spent. What if Fukuda was trying to come in under budget in order to make himself look good? He was talking about making a new Cyber Formula in the Kyoto QnA, so maybe he thought if he saved money on Destiny he could get a new series on TV?
Also, Destiny was the final nail in Cyber Formula's coffin.
>Being a movie, he won't be able to rely on clip-shows and flashbacks all the time.
Only problem is that compilation movies are a thing. Odds are he might pull a Baldios and have some of the movie consist of a rough summary.
>Fukuda is such a nice guy, saving bandai money.
Again, Fukuda was trying to save money in order to raise his own stock within the studio. When the final product looks lazy, rushed and has to air two clip shows within the last ten episodes, it only highlights how ineffective the man is at his job.
even now i still can't get over how silly her death is just by the ridiculous amount of red stuff created.
same with the gal who gets quartered by the dragons after she's ejected from her machine.
You're clearly sad, here is a fox with a Santa hat.
So, are people still going after Fukuda over Cross Ange on Twitter? 'Cause I seem to recall someone saying that Fukuda still gets Destiny's plotholes thrown in his face a lot by social media.
He did get my attention with CA, but so much of it and its production was bad and lazy.
I regret that I did not watch G-Reco with /m/.