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>That one time a current Gundam show had better music than the current Macross one.

Is this real life, /m/?
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>>13723134
I get that Lt. Surge has a hard on for jazz and all, but it's a damn good thing this series is only 4 episodes, cause that shit would lose its novelty mighty quickly.
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>>13723134
Well, if we're only counting the songs (which is what matters most in Macross) yeah, pretty much, but Macross always had better normally. But in terms of overall music (OSTs included) Gundam always had the edge.
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>not liking idols blocking missile shrapnel with shield drones while singing in the middle of a battlefield
You wot m8?
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I


Liked
B o t h
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Despite being about music, only Plus and Frontier really struck me as have decent music.
I enjoyed 7 but most of the music actually got pretty grating. The show was good in spite of it, not because of it.
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>>13723183
I don't really like Idols much at all honestly.
Glad Minmay and Sharon Apple lost.
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>>13723183
Nah, that's retarded. Music sucked too. Maybe future songs will be better, but Idol groups have always been a lot more about dance and show than actual music. They're the Japanese equivalent of One Direction or Hannah Montanna and shit like that..
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>>13723204
Macross is interesting in that it has a lot of diegetic music. Particularly in later series the 'big moments' in Macross have been highlighted not with traditional BGM, but vocal tracks which are being sung in the story. Insert songs are ten a penny in Gundam, and on that front I think it compares kind of poorly.

But when it comes to BGM, the Gundam franchise has an absolute pile of good or even great OSTs. Even AGE has a pretty good OST. Plus and Frontier had Kanno produced OSTs and that really elevated their BGM.
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>tfw we'll never have a Gundam series with a musical score by Koh Otani
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>>13723271
What? He scored Gundam Wing.
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>>13723271
>tfw we'll never have a Gundam series with a musical score by Koh Otani
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Maybe its just me, but I personally don't really catch the BGM in Gundam that much, especially if there is a battle/argument going on.

Frontier's last episode is godly because of the music lining up perfectly with what's going on in the battle though. Whoever that did the last episode was good.
>slow part of the song
>Oh-shit situation happens
>Song kicks up again
>MACROSS ATTACK
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>>13723284
Huh, never knew that
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That seems to be pretty normal actually...
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>>13723290
Frontier had a lot of ups and downs, but the final battle was hype as shit.
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>>13723134
Or is it just a fantasy?
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>>13723237
>He likes Macross for the planebots

Top kek
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>>13723204
>I enjoyed 7 but most of the music actually got pretty grating. The show was good in spite of it, not because of it.
>not liking Holy Lonely Night.
That said, I agree. Most of the music was kind of bland save for about three songs. How do you fuck up rock?
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>>13723326
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>>13723326
>>>/a/
Go on, git.
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So did Kanno just tell Kawamori to fuck off or something? He use to get her for most everything.
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>>13723134
anyone think that the jazz music is really out of place?
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>>13723365
Nope. If anything, I'm surprised Gundam beat Macross to the genre.
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>>13723360
She's probably just taking a break, or alternatively is working on something currently.
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>>13723370
>Macross doing anything different after Kawamori lost to his addiction.
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>>13723134
>one time

Despite being a franchise about music Macross is severely lacking in everything that's not a single, Frontier OST stood out because Yoko Kanno worked on it. Sunrise has always brought their A game to the franchise in terms of music
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>>13723523
Lets not forget the awesome Plus ost.
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Gundam Blunderdolt is shit.
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>>13723523
>Sunrise has always brought their A game to the franchise in terms of music
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>>13723567
I'm not even sure how anyone with tastes can deny Gundam has good music let alone be advocating Macross music as good.
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>>13723574
Gundam has a few good songs but I would never call the OST anything but mediocre. It's just there. 90% of Gundam music is completely forgettable. Only good songs from Gundam are the 0083 OP themes and Century Color. Rest is meh.
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WHO /best theme/ HERE?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r9NDWKJi1I
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>>13723581
>Only good songs from Gundam are the 0083 OP themes and Century Color.
Opinion discarded.
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>>13723581
>90% of Gundam music is completely forgettable.
>Only good songs from Gundam are the 0083 OP themes and Century Color.
Jesus fucking Christ! Way to invalidate any credibility you had with this statement.
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>>13723581
I love how you call the majority of the franchise music forgettable while endorsing the music from 0083 as good.
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>>13723587
>>13723590
Must be rough having shit taste anons.
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>>13723599
>citing anyone having shit taste while posting inages from Claymore

Here's a pity reply.
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>>13723602
>posts an image from a show with reddit tier humor
I can't tell who is trolling who now.
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>>13723604
>reddit
Found the troll
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Macross after Plus will never be anything more than catchy pop songs with no lasting value. Gundam as consistently produced memorable music for years.
>>13723581
Either trolling or you have legit shit taste.
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トロールね
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>>13723596
Hey, I think he's a cunt too, but c'mon...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n82FRHHd1bE
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>>13723622
>>13723596
Samefag
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>>13723612
Generic orchestra shit does not mean it's any better than pop music, anon.
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>>13723581
Yes, they are good... but there is so much out there also
>00 Raiser and 00 Gundam Themes
>Zeta OPs, rest of the OST
>AGE SUPER PILOTO THEME
>Fly the Sky, many other songs from G Gundam
>take your pick of anything from this OST and the others from unicorn: >>13723612
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>>13723627
Why would I present a counterpoint to my own argument?

Anon, you're not making any sense.
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>>13723629
Here's your reply
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Is this AU or UC canon? My friend keeps insisting it's the latter and won't shut up about it. I don't really care either way, but I would like to shut him up one way or another.
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>>13723692
It's UC, and set during the One Year War. However, it's largely doing its own thing and won't neatly fit with the rest.
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>>13723699
Where did that Full Armor Gundam come from?
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>>13723692
>>13723702
Thunderbolt takes place during an alternate version of the OYW, from what I understand
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>>13723704
Is >>13723699 just full of shit, then?
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>>13723704
>gundam has gotten so stagnant that they now have AU UC stories
pathetic. Gundam used to be good at one point.
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>>13723706
Yes. Thunderbolt was only made on the condition that the author could do whatever he wanted with it.
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>>13723581
How can anyone prefer Century Color to Turn A Turn?
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>>13723725
It's the better song for karaoke sessions
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>>13723581
fucking stupid
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Were the songs played in Thunderbolt new for the show or are they older songs put in?

Either way do we have them in full yet?
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>>13723707
There's only so many SUPER TOP SECRET GUNDAMS THAT WERE NEVER HEARD FROM AGAIN you can cram between the start of 0079 and the end of Zeta before ot starts getting stupid and they passed that point ages ago. Might as well just go for it and make more room for OVAs if you're gonna keep milking UC forever.
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>>13723743
I've been looking for the ED everywhere to no avail, so it's either an uber obscure song or it is like you say.
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>>13723692
The manga is set inan alternate version of the OYW. The OVA, however, hasn't done anything particularly lore-unfriendly as long as you say these are all area-specific variants, like OYW Gundam OVAs typically do.
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>>13724343
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8pgj9AYyvk
:^)
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Ai Senshi is better than My boyfriend is a pilot.
Beyond the Time is better than anything in 7.

Fight me.
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>>13728305
you aren't wrong

Arrow of Fate and Dog Fighter are better than any instrumental track in 0079 though.

Unless you really get off on music that suits the melodrama more than anything, I guess.

And boy isn't it funny to be saying Gundam is more Melodramatic than Macross in any context.
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>>13728305
I don't think anyone will. Ai Senshi is timeless while My boyfriend is a pilot is so fucking 80's chesse.
>>13728320
Arrow of Fate and Dog Fighter are better than any instrumental track in 0079 though.
Not even close.
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There's plenty of good music to be had in Gundam, but you're delusional if you think it's better than what Plus or Frontier brought to the table.

Frontier is the best OST Yoko Kanno's ever made. Fight me.
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>>13723604
Found the faggot
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>>13728320
>Arrow of Fate and Dog Fighter
>better than Here Comes Char
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>>13728328
>Frontier is the best OST Yoko Kanno's ever made.
No because Cowboy Bebop and Wolf's Rain exist
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>>13723170
>Jazz is a novelty
Found the uncultured swine
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>>13728334
are you thinking of gallant char, or red comet?

Because Here Comes Char is not an instrumental track.

>>13728336
I like Brain Powerd's myself, but it's probably not the best.
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>>13728338
Too much of anything is bad though.
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>>13728344
>Here Comes Char is not an instrumental track.
Found the retard
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>>13728369
It's got instruments, but I think he means there's vocals as well. Good jam though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1AAXRu3TBA
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>>13728364
And we're getting bombarded by Jazz music from...where exactly?
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>>13723365
It's probably because it's free jazz, which sounds disordered and weird compared to the typical BGM we get for Gundam (or anime in general, in fact.)
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>>13728391
In the space of episode 1? Everywhere. The MC has like a 5 minute monologue about it, about how he enjoys feeling vibrations in his asshole and the rhythm of the night and shit, Some of it's great, don't get me wrong. But then there's tracks like in this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMqu-iHKaT0

That's the kind of stuff that will get old.
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>awful ear raping jazz
>better than anything
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>>13728411
This.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZME_HbF0VI
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>>13723365
I don't really understand jazz, but it's weird and disorderly feel just fit with thunderbolt environment.
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>>13728430
no the "jazz" in the show is just plain shit, search youtube for best jazz songs
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>>13728430

The only thing to understand about Jazz is that it's kinda like farts, it's only liked by the people who do it.
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>>13728338
>Jazz is a novelty
Before calling others uncultured you should learn to read. It's not jazz as music that's a novelty, it's the character trait of being represented as "the one who listens to jazz" or "the one who's constantly being an autist drumming in his cockpit".
It's like that kid in school who'd run like naruto just to be different or to have a gimmick. More than 4 episodes of LOOK AT ME IM THE JAZZ GUY would be idiotic and sickening.

And calling people in a board for cartoons about giant robots, uncultured is fucking hilarious. We're adults that play with toys, you're not better than anyone here fucker.
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>>13723596
The BGM for most Gundam series is excellent. Except the series you freaking posted: The Origin.
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>>13723134
I Couldn't believe how shit Delta was. Kawamori actually made his newest series look worse than Frontier.
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>>13728411
>the faggot doesn't dig free jazz and improvisation

Wew lad
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>niggas not knowing the jazz track is probably based on this
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IQNPlnc9c0
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>>13728338
It's not the music itself I'd be growing wary of, it's as >>13728571 said, having an MC constantly go on about it and remind me that it's there, as if I can't hear it myself. It's when it becomes an element within the story/dialogue that it becomes a novelty. No one ever bitched about the music in something like Cowboy Bebop, but that's because Spike never went on a five minute monologue about it and starting dancing like a sperg every time he had headphones in. It's just there as ambiance to set to the mood, the way music's meant to be incorporated.
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>>13723707
Meanwhile, there's so much free space in Late UC that they can do.
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>>13723582
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPqomrYO960
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