Are there any good real robot series where the biggest enemy of mech's isn't just other mech's?
Even in shows like VOTOMS, the go to counter to a mech is just another mech.
Why would any setting have giant robots where the primary counter is AA missiles or something that is not another giant robot
I guess, but I don't really count it.
Muv Luv still applies. The best counter the humans have to offer against TSFs are other TSFs.
I guess I should have worded OP different to exclude monsters of the week.
08th MS Team has Gundams getting taking out by the mecha-less Not-Viet Cong
Because rock paper scissors combat man.
Tank beats anti air beat helicopter beats tank. No one machine solves every problem.
As for what problem the mech solves, well that's up to your fictional world to decide. It's fiction, all you should care about is internal consistency, not how it doesn't adhere to what real life has settled on.
I like my mecha as Infantry+
Can take on just about anything as long as they have cover and a flanking shot.
Mechs don't fit properly into the rps triangle in any form. It only really makes sense with stuff like Muv Luv where they have a very specific function and everyone is working together(mostly) against aliens. More like a puzzle than combat since the opposing side doesn't have the same weaponry
You can argue it's status as /m/, but you can't argue that Strike Witches doesn't have at least a crude theory of combined arms in it's setting.
Mechs are used for labor (hence the name), people start using them to commit crimes, so the police and military start using mechs (the titular Patrol Labors) to counter mechs.
So yes, it does put mecha in a specific role. It's just that said role is fighting other mechs.
>Mechs don't fit properly into the rps triangle in any form.
I completely disagree, they fit in the same category that helicopters fit in. I think you just need to lurk the fuck more, newfag.
Eh, VFs aren't really the best example considering they have completely replaced every other weapon in the military.
No tanks, no attack helicopters, no IFVs, no nothing.
Dougram. Combined arms all the way, even if other Combat Armors are usually the most common threats.
Pic related, Dueys never fail to cause trouble when they show up, which is often.
Not entirely, at least as of Frontier, there's still various types of Destroids in service like the Köenig Monster, and I don't think the Zentradi war machines qualify as VFs, and they still use those for Macronized Zentradi units and fleets.
Better get used to it, it's on pretty much all of the Earth Federation boxes for the older Dougram kits.
Kits associated with the Deloyer rebels have "Fight, Dougram! To save the independency of Deloyer".
Dougram's pretty nice.
Easy, you destroy them because they take up space and aren't making you money.
Companies, not just Japanese ones, do this all the time. Dr. Who, now famous and popular, has whole seasons lost because the BBC needed space and wasn't airing old stuff back in the day. What's a company to do with reels, tapes, and other materials that never seemed popular and aren't making them a profit? It's pretty unfortunate, because it happens often, but when it comes to things like this, all you can do is cross your fingers.
Okay, so how do they do that fuckface.
MP robots capable of sustained flight in Earth's atmosphere are not common and typically they don't serve to shit on infantry on tanks while being susceptible to anything else but giant robots
The Tank witches series isn't canon, I think.
>TFW we well never witness the AKIMBO BOFORS OF FRIENDSHIP animated
No, Tank Witches are canon.
Aurora E. Juutilainen, Elia's older sister, is a tank witch part of the 502nd's Support Unit.
It's even happened with NASA's original Apollo 11 tapes, of all things. http://www.theguardian.com/science/2009/jul/16/moon-landing-tapes-erased http://www.reuters.com/article/us-nasa-tapes-idUSTRE56F5MK20090720
There's "infantry sized" and then there's "still need a ladder or some kind of stand to do maintenance on it and is big and heavy enough to punt a Humvee off the freeway".
Also having a cockpit means it kind of can't be a suit because it can't be worn, unless you're trying to fit it into a Gundam setting.
They're not Infantry sized, I arbitrarily put the upper limit of infantry sized at no more than twice the height of your average man.
But I'd considered them Infantry-role mechs. Gasaraki and FMP's Arm Slaves are both my best examples of infantry mechs, but not that I think about it they both stand taller than 4m...
I need to rethink some things.
That's because no such thing exists, at least not yet.
Sorry, I haven't seen FMP but what were the heaviest armaments that the arm slaves had? I've seen Votoms and a bit of Gasaraki, at best they had something like 30mm autocannons and rocket pods, or a long gun that seems similar to an anti-tank rifle (50mm or lower calibre?)
A Scopedog had that one large shoulder carried laser/energy cannon that was only seen in the first episode and never referred to or shown again.
Arm slaves had various cannons yes. I think the later models had some really big energy weapons though.
Not really sure though, I haven't seen those shows in like, ten years now and presently my external HDD with those shows is not within reach.
The biggest enemy of a fighter jet is another fighter jet.
The biggest enemy of a tank is another tank.
Why do you have such a problem with the biggest enemy of a mech being another mech?
Well actually a tank has plenty to fear from a slav in a Kamov.
Attack choppers eat ground vehicles for days if left unmolested.
Not to say Lincoln in his Abrams can't fight back but usually you don't want those shitbirds buzzing on top of you.
>Are there any good real robot series where the biggest enemy of mech's isn't just other mech's?
Argevollen. Aside from ones based off of Argevollen, infantry with rifles can take down a mech.
>The biggest enemy of a tank is another tank.
Fixed it for you. Pic related.
The shotgun the Arbalest carries is 55mm which is pretty powerful. I remember it destroying enemy units in a single round. It also has dual linked chain guns in the head that are 12.7mm.
In Vanquish the biggest threat to the mechs was former football player in a suit of armor.
Fang of the Sun Dougram as others have said was a series where combined arms was king. The series itself was a really good watch.
Project HON was shaping up to be similar before it was cancelled.
Gears fear tanks, usually designed for infantry support and recon and occasionally tank hunting (for the ultra heavy super rare gears)
The Visigoth and Aller destroy most gears in the HG universe by the dozens and move on
Anon you appear to have posted the wrong aircraft. Pic related is the correct aircraft.