Are there any good real robot series where the biggest enemy

Why do you want this

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>>13721882

>>13721812
Muv Luv series.

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>>13721888
Why would any setting have giant robots where the primary counter is AA missiles or something that is not another giant robot

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>>13721890

I guess, but I don't really count it.

Muv Luv still applies. The best counter the humans have to offer against TSFs are other TSFs.

I guess I should have worded OP different to exclude monsters of the week.

>>13721894
Maybe the giant robot jobs to mundane shit, but that mundane shit jobs to ridiculous shit that in turn jobs to giant robots?

>>13721812
Robot shows like Blue Gender and Muv Luv, where the main enemy is a biological organism

>>13721890
>muv luv
>real robot

>>13721900
Why even bother with robots if they can be taken out so easily
Just fight with tanks and stuff instead of the resource dump for MS sized robots

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08th MS Team has Gundams getting taking out by the mecha-less Not-Viet Cong

>>13721911
Because rock paper scissors combat man.

Tank beats anti air beat helicopter beats tank. No one machine solves every problem.

As for what problem the mech solves, well that's up to your fictional world to decide. It's fiction, all you should care about is internal consistency, not how it doesn't adhere to what real life has settled on.

>>13721812
Any series with aliens, I guess.

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>>13721938

I like my mecha as Infantry+

Can take on just about anything as long as they have cover and a flanking shot.

>>13721938
Mechs don't fit properly into the rps triangle in any form. It only really makes sense with stuff like Muv Luv where they have a very specific function and everyone is working together(mostly) against aliens. More like a puzzle than combat since the opposing side doesn't have the same weaponry

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>>13721812

You can argue it's status as /m/, but you can't argue that Strike Witches doesn't have at least a crude theory of combined arms in it's setting.

>>13721812
Metal Gear Solid.

Evangelion maybe?

>>13722479
Eva isn't a real robot series though

>>13722484
Yeah, missed that part in the OP.

>>13721943
This

>>13722473
>Metal Gear Solid
OP asked for a series where mechs were threatened by non-mechs, not a series where mechs were threatened by literally everything.

>>13723617
THIS IS THE WEAPON THAT WILL USHER IN A NEW WORLD ORDER

Taken out by literally 1 guy with portable AA missiles.

>>13721812
front mission game series

>>13723644
The weapon to surpass metal gear was just a sneaky man with rockets all along.

Sasuga Hideo.

Mechs don't kill mechs.
People piloting mechs kill mechs.

>>13721812
Strangely enough, MS Igloo comes to mind.

Haven't watched it yet but doesn't Patlabor put mecha in a specific role and include combined forces?

>>13723868
Mechs are used for labor (hence the name), people start using them to commit crimes, so the police and military start using mechs (the titular Patrol Labors) to counter mechs.
So yes, it does put mecha in a specific role. It's just that said role is fighting other mechs.

>>13723761
Whatever you say, National Mecha Association.

>>13721948
>Mechs don't fit properly into the rps triangle in any form.

I completely disagree, they fit in the same category that helicopters fit in. I think you just need to lurk the fuck more, newfag.

Macross, I guess?
The biggest threat to a VF or destroid outside of other VFs or destroids is aliens.

>>13723896

Eh, VFs aren't really the best example considering they have completely replaced every other weapon in the military.

No tanks, no attack helicopters, no IFVs, no nothing.

Just VFs

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>>13721812
Dougram. Combined arms all the way, even if other Combat Armors are usually the most common threats.

Pic related, Dueys never fail to cause trouble when they show up, which is often.

>>13723957
Not entirely, at least as of Frontier, there's still various types of Destroids in service like the Köenig Monster, and I don't think the Zentradi war machines qualify as VFs, and they still use those for Macronized Zentradi units and fleets.

>>13724003
>We never approve your independence from our federation

Brutal

>>13724069
Secession is high treason by US law.

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>>13724069
Better get used to it, it's on pretty much all of the Earth Federation boxes for the older Dougram kits.

Kits associated with the Deloyer rebels have "Fight, Dougram! To save the independency of Deloyer".

Dougram's pretty nice.

>>13724093
Fucking Blu Rays when? The DVDs are unbearably bad.

>>13724098
Never. The masters to the series were lost. Rather unfortunate really.

>>13724107
Man how do you lose 75 episodes of film canisters, ffs Japan.

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>>13724125
Easy, you destroy them because they take up space and aren't making you money.

Companies, not just Japanese ones, do this all the time. Dr. Who, now famous and popular, has whole seasons lost because the BBC needed space and wasn't airing old stuff back in the day. What's a company to do with reels, tapes, and other materials that never seemed popular and aren't making them a profit? It's pretty unfortunate, because it happens often, but when it comes to things like this, all you can do is cross your fingers.

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>>13722124

Pz.VI a shit

Pz.VI Ausf B. new hotness

>>13724210
So many other film reels have been saved though, and it's Sunrise, not some nobodies. Did someone else keep the reels?

>>13724447
You'd have to look around for 'em, because if someone did they haven't piped up yet and they probably haven't been subbed either.

>>13724487
I wonder if they are just sitting in some former Sunrise archive staffer's basement...

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>>13723878
Okay, so how do they do that fuckface.
MP robots capable of sustained flight in Earth's atmosphere are not common and typically they don't serve to shit on infantry on tanks while being susceptible to anything else but giant robots

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>>13722124
>>13724270
The Tank witches series isn't canon, I think.

>TFW we well never witness the AKIMBO BOFORS OF FRIENDSHIP animated

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>>13724885

No, Tank Witches are canon.

Aurora E. Juutilainen, Elia's older sister, is a tank witch part of the 502nd's Support Unit.

>>13721943
Infantry-sized mechs are the worst. 20m at least or go home.

>>13724210
It's even happened with NASA's original Apollo 11 tapes, of all things. http://www.theguardian.com/science/2009/jul/16/moon-landing-tapes-erased http://www.reuters.com/article/us-nasa-tapes-idUSTRE56F5MK20090720

>>13723875
is it sad that I want a NMA

>>13727643

Of course not.

You have a constitutional RIGHT to mecha and by god ain't no latte-suckin' liberal is gonna take it away from either of us.

>>13727615
Infantry sized mechs shouldn t be considered exosuits?

>>13727693

There's "infantry sized" and then there's "still need a ladder or some kind of stand to do maintenance on it and is big and heavy enough to punt a Humvee off the freeway".

Also having a cockpit means it kind of can't be a suit because it can't be worn, unless you're trying to fit it into a Gundam setting.

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>>13727809

So is garasaki considered infantry sized?

>>13728485
no

>>13728485

They're not Infantry sized, I arbitrarily put the upper limit of infantry sized at no more than twice the height of your average man.

But I'd considered them Infantry-role mechs. Gasaraki and FMP's Arm Slaves are both my best examples of infantry mechs, but not that I think about it they both stand taller than 4m...

I need to rethink some things.

>>13728576
I think for most reasons we need to ignore real world military paradigms. A sub 8m mech isn't infantry, but it's far more mobile than a tank, so it'd fit somewhere in between.

>>13729270
something like an armored car then

>>13729302
But still far more mobile and armed than that.

>>13729307
then an armored fighting vehicle? some of those can already carry tank-class weaponry, just on a lighter chassis

>>13729313
I guess that's the closest real world analogue, but it doesn't really quite compare with a single crewed vehicle that can scale buildings.

>>13729325
That's because no such thing exists, at least not yet.

Sorry, I haven't seen FMP but what were the heaviest armaments that the arm slaves had? I've seen Votoms and a bit of Gasaraki, at best they had something like 30mm autocannons and rocket pods, or a long gun that seems similar to an anti-tank rifle (50mm or lower calibre?)

A Scopedog had that one large shoulder carried laser/energy cannon that was only seen in the first episode and never referred to or shown again.

>>13729343
Arm slaves had various cannons yes. I think the later models had some really big energy weapons though.

Not really sure though, I haven't seen those shows in like, ten years now and presently my external HDD with those shows is not within reach.

>>13721812
Battletech

>>13721812
>Even in shows like VOTOMS, the go to counter to a mech is just another mech.
Bullshit, watch Pailsen files, ATs did like shit against static defenses and mines.

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>>13721812

The biggest enemy of a fighter jet is another fighter jet.

The biggest enemy of a tank is another tank.

Why do you have such a problem with the biggest enemy of a mech being another mech?

>>13732972
Well actually a tank has plenty to fear from a slav in a Kamov.

Attack choppers eat ground vehicles for days if left unmolested.

Not to say Lincoln in his Abrams can't fight back but usually you don't want those shitbirds buzzing on top of you.

>>13721812
>Are there any good real robot series where the biggest enemy of mech's isn't just other mech's?
Argevollen. Aside from ones based off of Argevollen, infantry with rifles can take down a mech.

>>13729270

>infantry support
>infantry support
>infantry support

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>>13732972
>The biggest enemy of a tank is another tank.

Fixed it for you. Pic related.

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>>13729343
The shotgun the Arbalest carries is 55mm which is pretty powerful. I remember it destroying enemy units in a single round. It also has dual linked chain guns in the head that are 12.7mm.

>>13732972
You know why. We've discussed this thousands of time.

>>13721812
Would Pacific Rim count?

The mechs are technically "real robots" as they don't have any fancy attacks or super magic engines, and they were developed expressly to counter kaiju.

>>13733584
You don't need either of those to be considered Super, which PR is

>>13721812
In Vanquish the biggest threat to the mechs was former football player in a suit of armor.
Fang of the Sun Dougram as others have said was a series where combined arms was king. The series itself was a really good watch.
Project HON was shaping up to be similar before it was cancelled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKl19QyPnMw

>>13735935
>cancelled

Fuck

I will never not be mad about this...

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Dang

>>13721812
Heavy Gear?

Gears fear tanks, usually designed for infantry support and recon and occasionally tank hunting (for the ultra heavy super rare gears)

The Visigoth and Aller destroy most gears in the HG universe by the dozens and move on

>>13728576
Any smaller than Garasaki's size then it will become more power armor than mecha.

>>13741328

Power armour is mecha.

Armor Hunter Mellowlink

Stellvia.

They're literally fighting a super-nova for the most part and the mecha don't do anything I'd call super.

>>13724210
Wait, how much is left? You can still watch the full series, yeah?

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>>13733277
Anon you appear to have posted the wrong aircraft. Pic related is the correct aircraft.

Gunparade March. Just avoid Orchestra and you're golden.

>>13745926
Yes, it's all out and released just fine. Torrent that shit.

Watch dragonar.
There are motorcycles that can bring down a mech..
Hell a pod with missiles can too.

Now the focus is clearly on the mecha, but what ani/m/e isnt?