-15: The disparity between Earth and the colonies is also great just like Mars, worker protests intesify and Tekkadan gets involved
-16: Protests intensify making Gjallarhorn intervene, Kudelia is driven to the center stage unknowingly.
-17: Kudelia and Tekkadan witness Gjallarhorn's opression, Kudelia makes a decision
-18: After the colony ordeal Tekkadan finally will drop to Earth but the colony has lost the means to do it. Then, a certain someone contacts Tekkadan to help them.
>Kudelia makes a decision
Translation. Kudelia is shocked, cries, makes it about her but then acts like she will do something
>Tekkadan finally will drop to Earth
Even the previews are getting sick of waiting
She's the face/figurehead. She organized a major meeting early on and became famous for it, which led to her becoming the face of the movement. Her being used and looked at as a tool by everyone has been the whole thing with her character. Different groups want her because of her fame/popularity, not her skill (or lack thereof) as a leader.
Her being a leader felt like they wrote it without know what that means
fan theory at best. If they were using her like that they'd send a script writer and a whole team with her so she says the right things
At this point I'm almost positive that Fumitan's real job is to make sure Kudelia doesn't majorly fuck up and the people she's reporting back to are the real leaders/supporters (like the fat naked guy) of the movement. So far they're the only faction we've seen that it could be (could be a faction that hasn't been revealed yet though). IIRC Kudelia is the one going because the power block leader contacted and requested her directly.
Fumitan hasn't really done much to help her not look like a total ass, if that is her job she should get a major pay cut. Also if whoever was in proper control with her they'd no all the messages she gets to do stuff
Coral wanted to kill her to make her a martyr so as to increase Gjallarhorn's (and his own) power on Mars so he has no need to send any speech writer. McGillis wants to use her as a means to combat the old guard of Gjallarnhorn and has never gotten in personal contact with her so can't have given her one even if he wanted to. And Teiwaz just want her to start a war on Earth that ousts Gjallarhorn and gives him more direct political power, so he couldn't give a fuck what she says, since any screw-ups on her part just increase the chances of conflict - so he has no need to want a speech writer. Who exactly would be giving her a speech writer since none of those have cause to?
>-16: Protests intensify making Gjallarhorn intervene, Kudelia is driven to the center stage unknowingly.
>-17: Kudelia and Tekkadan witness Gjallarhorn's opression, Kudelia makes a decision
Why can't neutral extranational military organizations that mediate between the economic superpowers just not be assholes about breaking up protests?
Alternatively why can't the assholes who show up to protests stay nonviolent so the police don't have to beat them in the face with sticks to stop them from murdering people with rocks?
The only major political thing she's done so far is signing a deal with Teiwaz which was a good move to make and was pointed out she didn't really have any other option anyways. Her looking stupid in front of a bunch of mercinaries isn't really that important.
No-one said anyone was trying to control her though, only that she became the popular face of a revolution and various sides are trying to use her as a tool to influence that revolution in various ways because of it. You're the only one that said anything about control.
Don Weeb might have said Mars instead of Earth, I can't recall. Regardless of that, he wants there to be a war with Gjallarhorn that ousts them from there so that he can have more political power. That's the sole reason he backed them and why he gave all those free upgrades to Mika. I very much doubt he means Mars only though, given that Tekkadan are escorting her to Earth in the first place. Mars might be an element of it since it would spread, but he's definitely aware that it'll effect Earth too given that they're going there in the first place.
>signing a deal with Teiwaz
So sign a deal with a major fraction? That's a big deal and you generally shouldn't let her regularly humiliate herself in front of guards
>No-one said anyone was trying to control her though,
To do what your saying is controlling someone. if they don't need to then she does actually know all this shit and so her being an idiot is just shitty writing.
No he didn't, it was a warning. You can't even remember if it was earth of mars
Not him, but it's not necessarily a war he wants. He just commented that whether it's done peacfully or through war, either way if the independence movement succeeds there is going to be a major upheaval of the current system and various powers are going to take advantage of that and he wants a slice of the pie too. What he brings to the table is protection from the underworld side and forces if it comes to fighting in exchange for some of that power uf the movement comes out on top. Whether it comes to war or not is inconsequential.
>So sign a deal with a major fraction?
Which she didn't fuck up and made the right decision. No interference needed. And Tekkadan is essentially being paid to support her. What a bunch of mercs and kids think about her personally doesn't really matter in the big picture as long as she doesn't fuck up the important meeting at the end.
Considering her status as the tip of the spear of the revolution I was hoping at the start of the show that Kudelia would have some force of personality, strength of conviction, outstanding skills as an orator, etc, like many real revolutionary figures. She hasn't really shown anything like that. How the fuck did she become the driving force of the secessionist movement?
>Which she didn't fuck up and made the right decision
So is she competent or or is she just a puppet being used? You want to say she's really just a figure head that they are using and she knows jack shit, but then she can also secure large deals.
>doesn't really matter
It does cause people talk. If it gets out she is really just a pretty face being used that hurts how usefully she is. This is a reason a celebrity or politician has a team of people who tell them how to act etc, cause a fuck up looks bad
She's more like a celebrety face. At the beginning the revolution movement was a bunch of independant groups without much connection to each other. Kudelia organized the first major meeting between the biggest groups to bring them all together which she made some big speech at. This "July Assembly" is what made a lot of the Earth actually take notice of the movement, made her famous, and made her immensly popular among the Mars general population.
She's being babysat, not having her hand held through everything. Again, it's to make sure she doesn't make any major fuck ups, not 100% direct her actions. As long as she isn't doing something incredably stupid there is no need to interfere.
And as the series has pounded into us at this point, the orphans are the bottom rung of society and nobody cares about what they think.
Its been pretty obvious for a while now that the series is about getting her to this meeting and not what comes after. Unless there is a second season don't expect a major war to happen. At best it's going to have a bunch of gjallarhorn holdouts/breakoff faction in a big battle at the end like Gryps in Zeta.
>it's to make sure she doesn't make any major fuck ups, not 100% direct her actions.
How? Was Maidtits at the door ready to barge in and tackle her to the ground if she said the wrong thing? How much does she actually know cause if she is making these speeches, just having someone look over her shoulder to see it's okay but not acting, then apparently she does know a decent amount which fucks up your point
>nobody cares about what they think.
They don't need to for a rumour to spread as one of them mentions it off hand. Even the press do way more sneaky things than ask body guards for info
It has a much better time slot and is half off with a VS code. Basically with every ball imaginable in it's court so those numbers are lacking
Seeing as Okada has another show that doesn't help either though it isn't like she seems to give a fuck
IBO is getting the best treatment of a new Gundam show by Banrise in years and is still failing spectacularly in ratings and BD sales, half off BDs with promocodes arent indicative of anything.
No but from what I've seen around a lot of Barbatos, decent amount of normal graze (not many of the 5 variants), few Guisons, no man rodis (may not be out as I have never seen one outside promo picks)
We never do except occasionslly Amazon JP sales. Bandai lumps all gunpla sales together under "Gundam" on their publicly released reports regardless of line or series in order to show how much profit they are making through the license.
IBO is flopping. You can talk about how popular it is or how much you like it all you want, but the numbers don't lie. The only thing Bandai can do nowadays is another UC or more SEED. Anything else is met with indifference at best.
It all comes down to how the gunpla sell at the end, which at this point we have no idea how well its doing outside of that it's not explosively popular like BF or widespread shelfwarming like AGE.
>wanting more oyw super secret speshul snowflake shit
>What other manga would they likely animate?
If we got Plot To Assassinate Gihren Zabi I'd be overjoyed, but I don't think that's likely.
Another possibility is Crossbone, I guess.
Maybe that Johnny Ridden thing could be done in the style of Thunderbolt?
I would love for the Johnny Ridden MSV series to get a few animated shorts. Especially the core booster and night seeker parts.
Oddly enough though I could see them doing something with Beltorchika'sChildren though as it currently has a manga and can ride off the popularity of CCA.
>Then, a certain someone contacts Tekkadan to help them.
It can only be Moe Hitler. He is the one that has Tekkadan's contacts and is forced to work for McGillis. Or maybe its Fumitan/Merribit - spies.
Gundam IBO vol. 1 - 10,428
12,018 Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans ED "Orphans no Namida" by MISIA
66,215 Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans OP "Raise your flag" by MAN WITH A MISSION
Well now she has to worry about mika liking her, no one liking her, not having as shit a life as atra, having to do her job she has had no problems with and some workers are unhappy
And in IBO tradition the way to do this is repeat yourself to the problem just sort of ends
The decision she made before was to prepare and resolve herself for a potential war if peace talks fail. By the sound of it this decision will be whether or not to involve the earth sphere colonies independence as well (Currently she's just working towards Mars independence, with her own regions independence being the first step).
Most likely the colony movements are going to try to get her to bring their own independence issue to her meeting with the power block as well.
Looks like Gjallhorn will finally do something threatening. We are told that Gjallhorn is this powerful group that oppressed Earth,Mars and the colonies but so far they look like a country club with Gundams.
Fumitan is so obviously the Gjallarhorn spy you'd have to be an idiot -not- to see it.
Then again, considering who the majority of IBO's audience is, it will probably be treated like a big shocking twist.
The only alternative is that she has a different secret. They make her look suspicious on purpose to draw your attention away from others. I doubt that will happen though because almost nothing has happened in ibo.
Fumitan is so obviously a spy that I'm starting to think she is a red herring.This happens all the time in anime,cartoons,TV shows and movies:the obviously suspicious person turns out to be irrelevant and the spy is someone you never suspected.
I doubt it. If she was Gjallarhorns spy then McGillis wouldn't have had to guess their route to Earth or contract the Brewers. Whoever Fumitan was sending information to it obviously wasn't him or Coral (The mars Gjallarhorn leader who's now dead). Could possibly be McGillis'dad though.
>Half an episodes worth of content spread out to 4
Hoping for IBO to do something interesting is like hoping for an old driver to speed up
>17: Kudelia and Tekkadan witness Gjallarhorn's opression, Kudelia makes a decision
oh man I give up
17 episodes it takes to reach this point
>Kudelia and Tekkadan witness Gjallarhorn's opression, Kudelia makes a decision
Didn't she already know about this and talk about it in episode 5 or 6 when she had that monologue explaining Gjallarhorn's oppression?
Or the time the Gallhorn attacked them in space again trying to kill Kudelia
Or her long career as a speaker where she talks about these very issues so even is she was just fed lines she would at least have some decent familiarity with them.
Hell if she turned on the news or space tumblr once she would have seen the mass protests and images of people being oppressed
Kudelia isn't a very good character
As hilarious as this would be, I doubt the staff has the balls to pull even this off.
Hooligans would at least be amusing to see.
Never mind that, if this were Vifam, they'd have reached Belwick in episode 17.
> Then, a certain someone contacts Tekkadan to help them.
This is bothering me A LOT.
Am I the only one who think Tekkadan is the most lucky crew in the whole Gundam saga? How often do you find a main crew that gets help from EVERYONE they meet?
They met the mafia and got an alliance in two seconds for reasons.
They met the pirate and got some more orphans to train and parts to sell with minimum effort and irrelevant losses.
Now this "certain someone".
What the hell?
but muh hard orphan life. Don't you know how hard they had it? They had it so hard! It was really horrible. Also Guts had it like 10 times worse, like ultra mega horrible. It was so bad and if we keep saying it then it is true so the show doesn't have to portray the it well
There's also the fact they just happen to have a Gundam in their basement.
Or that Yamagi, who gets his shit wrecked in space in a flying deathtrap, bled a little but is totally fine now.
Or that the accountant back home hasn't sold everyone out to Space Police for some reason.
>Or that the accountant back home hasn't sold everyone out to Space Police for some reason.
Why haven't they just attacked the base again?
Don't even need to overtly take hostages. Say it is a rogue PMC which may have become a terrorist organisation that is treating very young kids badly, would be good advertising really and they could sure do with that. Then when Tekkadan come back have 5 ships waiting, they must have a decent number to control from earth to mars so just get them to move in for a little bit
are we expecting any more MS designs toward the end or will we just get a final boss gundam and more grazes? will the barbatos even get an upgrade? i thought with this whole frame thing and the armour swapping we got in the first few episodes that the barbatos would change throughout the series. Like a lot of things though that feels like it was forgotten about after the 3rd episode
The next 4 episodes will probably see the stuff that is currently been revealed, most like the millionth Graze don't have to do much and they'll probably give guts a moment then he'll go back to shooting from range.
Then there will be 5 episodes left so even if stuff gets really sped up they won't have time to really focus on that many new suits with all the plot they have to get through outside that one which we keep seeing the preproduction one of
Also if no more come in that will mean the Graze variants actually be equal to the number of unique suits
>4 episodes when it's could've been two
Yeah they look so nice just sitting in their hangars
There are never sources on gunpla numbers much less specific models or models that belong to certain shows, so anybody saying "this line did good!" is lying to you unless they're Derringer, whose a confirmed insider and is very reliable.
However much Gunpla they make is up to how badly they want to push the show.
I wasn't expecting them to even repair it by now, I thought they'd just keep putting Graze armour on it. How would they even repair magic lost technology materials on a robot they don't have designs for when they can barely afford to eat?
Turns out that it works the usual way, some guy goes 'hello I am the robot genius for this series' and does it offscreen between episodes for free.
They really did fuck all with this take the other amour and use it bit. Like the only time it really played any big role was the hook shot
>However much Gunpla they make is up to how badly they want to push the show.
That is also up to how much it sells, line usually get cut for doing badly. Though IBOs line is so small I don't see how they could cut it, I counted 5 of the gunplas as variants (graze kai, char's, custom II, hyakuren pink and rebaked guison is basically a barbatos with a few guison parts)
>guns do jack but weeaboo powers do
I don't get why they bothered making multiple designs or option packs. Most of their pushed features get used once then fuck off never to be seen again. I bet we'll never see the space equipment for the graze kai, a man rodi or even a schwalbe graze again
>Just fun to watch Mika murder without too much "He was 15 and loved to play the piano"
See that just makes them less interesting to me, obviously not that silly a scene but the lack of emotion. The only fight I can think of with emotional resonance was Crank and only he felt it. gut's bro kind of worked but they didn't fight at all so it more killed the pacing. Mech fights aren't just about the robot, even in super shows (if not more so) it is about the emotion. The nips have this thing that the robot is the will of the person.
But the ones Mika has are so sub-dewed and basic that I just don't really get into his fights. i want fights to be like when he strangled that guy, make him crazy in them or something. Instead it seems he is going to get a really lazily bolted on killing is badong but stay the same not very interesting self
He seemed to have taken Frogger's words about being a sociopath seriously though. That has a good chance of coming up and may add some value to things. However, a season 2 is needed to actually bring things up to par.
I like Mika's silent killer style though,in my opinion it puts a kind of emphasis on the fact that it's not some epic struggle he's fighting or that he's doing this to save the world which is a huge contrast to a lot of past series where most fights had monologues about idealism and dramatic situations. At the end of the day it's his job and he's getting paid to do this,it kinda give off a mundane vibe.
maybe the sunrise crews are burnt out? Gundam has been releasing pretty fast lately,i'd like to see a 2-5 year break until another series, maybe after some hiatus like that they could revisit the traditional formula like SEED and try to revive the series with another 0079 inspired AU
What actually makes that interesting in the show? It just means his care for stuff doesn't come across very deeply and he is uninterested in events the show wants us to be invested in
Like I said I liked it because it was a change of pace from spouting speeches in the cockpit, but others may miss seeing those developments I think depends on how you see it and personal preference though. And Mika has shown that he cares about things outside the cockpit, the whole "Tekkadan is family" thing being shoved in our face is one although he mostly keeps to himself. It seems Orga is probably one of the few people he really expresses this to and maybe Atra since she seems to know him to an extent.
>change of pace
Things need more than that, it isn't like mech shows have never had characters are that are okay with killing
>And Mika has shown that he cares about things
But he does this in a very dry way. He'll repeat the same deal as everyone else but with less gusto, there isn't much special or notable there
>ut others may miss seeing those developments
I don't think people have, it is just they aren't very interesting. Like what has Mika mentioning family and that he cares really changed? He is doing the same thing he was from the start. The only change in him that could be big got brought up last episode and it wasn't to do with the muh family stuff.
>it isn't like mech shows have never had characters are that are okay with killing
But it is uncommon to have a mech show that never kills its characters. Yet at this point if anyone died it would probably feel pretty forced. It isn't impossible for them to kill someone off correctly still but they'd probably make it as retarded as Guts' brother's scene.
>I just want... to thank you...
>NOOO YOU CAN MAKE IT
>hey... Remember the dream... the dream... of having a family...
>NOOOOOO [unimportant named character]-KUUUUUN
>heh, I guess this is the fate of us orphans...
>Wow I sure do miss character-kun, he was a big part of what went on here. I hope we can find someone to do his menial tasks just like he did. Also I hope you remember his name because we're mentioning him for the third time ever, can't kill off anyone important, right?
>never mentioned again until the flashback of who Mika is fighting for
>Yet at this point if anyone died it would probably feel pretty forced.
This is a real problem.
The show hasn't handled it well so death feels like a tense possible thing but when there is one it is so overblown and feels just kinda like finally. This is not helped by the constant talk of how hard it is for them as orphans in space, despite doing so well
He's better than Kira / Banana types who sit in their super robots telling people that we shouldn't be fighting.
But I hope they give him some kind of opinion by the end of the show. Having him just following Orga around while Orga makes choices that work out perfectly for Tekkadan is kinda bland, there's no tension.
Kira doesn't do that, it's usually : humiliate you, then tell you to stop fighting. It's Kio who does this bullshit.
But nonetheless, I feel that they should've stopped after BF. Then have JJtrek-like Reboot of the universal century
>worker protests intesify and Tekkadan gets involved
>-16: Protests intensify making Gjallarhorn intervene, Kudelia is driven to the center stage unknowingly.
>-17: Kudelia and Tekkadan witness Gjallarhorn's opression, Kudelia makes a decision
>-18: After the colony ordeal Tekkadan finally will drop to Earth but the colony has lost the means to do it. Then, a certain someone contacts Tekkadan to help them.
Remind of the stage in ZOE:Fist of mars where you have to protect worker LEVs.
Next what? Tv station take over for a political broadcast.
That's sure a fastest way to end this.
Apart from that, it feels same plot progression from the 1st half.
I am getting tired of this.
> The disparity between Earth and the colonies is also great
We Gaia Gear now.
Just show me McGillis gundam painted and I can be done with this. I'll still watch the whole goddamn thing but I just want to be able to check out mentally as soon as possible. Stupid seiyuu love.
Why is getting so boring now. The hype is all over man. It is just content after another content. I wonder how are they even suppose to wrap things up?
G-Reco at least have fights and talks going on each episode...
>Mika murders frogs with the Giga Mace
I love the sound of that. I'd say "Mika tries to hit on a girl with the Giga mace" is okay too, but that was more because of the other things outside of him (Guts vs Esmeralda and Azee, and mostly Lafter and or the Ship Shenanigans).
But yeah, it's kinda unfortunate that the battles aren't so good lately but eh. What's more noticeable now that you guys have mentioned it is how the fuck the Orphans are getting lucky as fuck but I'll probably have to go with "let's just wait and see where this goes" I guess.
Couple of preview images
such wide chests but such skinny arms
Gah, this is what I get for being optimistic about the show. I thought the premise and setting was pretty good and there was plenty of potential for the show to develop in interesting ways, but it's really down nothing. For the obvious example, Mika and Orga could have had a great dynamic with their creepy codependence, but the show has literally not bothered with that at all at this point. It's really just sad.