Why is technology so stagnant in the Gundam multiverse? True

>>13702861
>True artificial gravity has only ever been seen in G

It's seen in IBO, too.

Because their souls are being held down by the Earth's gravity.

The people can't get their shit together to expand beyond the solar system outside of a few people, and that just ends up not giving them the motivation to make such shit.

>>13702861
What exactly do you mean by stagnant? UC is the only one that you have a long view of the technology progress.

If you mean why doesn't it have stuff like FTL No gundam series takes place outside the solar systems and most aren't only in the earthsphere. There is no need for FTL from a literary point of view. It would also seem too advance and would not fit with everyone else. Sure mobile suits and colonies are much more advance that anything we have today but nothing on the same league as FTL. In most series the technology is from a magic power source not actual technology progress.

>>13702861
Probably because they work with mostly real physics, and artificial gravity, FTL, and giant single stage to orbit ships are all really hard to do with real physics. They're only willing to bend the rules when it comes to the technical feasibility of giant robots, everything else has to comply to real science. Which, yes, is a total double standard, but it's the path the franchise has chosen.

>>13702997
>They're only willing to bend the rules when it comes to the technical feasibility of giant robots

No, the only real double standard that exist is with minosky particles. Giant robots themselves really aren't that technically complicated, could make something close to one with modern technology even. It's the magical minosky particles that are the real problem.

>>13703183

Not really. As is always the problem, materials are not good enough to make mecha at the size and manoeuvrability of Mobile Suits without serious structural problems, plus designing systems to control them, balancing, etc. Even taking the feasibility argument out of it, mecha just aren't possible at this point.

>>13702861
Macross came out.

You could have seen those super sciency stuff in AUs atleast. But it flint locked itself into some sort of tradition set by UC.

I mean, just look how majority of viewers sperged out with Aliums in the 00 movie.

IBO has stealthly included the artificial gravity through sci-fi magic machine. That's a start.

Whats FTL?

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>>13703505
fucking go to school you retard

>>13703599
I don't think they teach sci-fi fandom abbreviations in school.

Bitch should learn to Google, though.

>>13702861
>True artificial gravity has only ever been seen in G, FTL of any kind has never been seen, and in mos series ships needs some kind of assistance to go from Earth to space like a mass driver or multiple rocket stages

It's entirely possible that artificial gravity and FTL are completely impossible in the UC Gundam universe. Likely even.

>>13702997
>They're only willing to bend the rules when it comes to the technical feasibility of giant robots

And particle weapons. And beam sabers. And magic space autist psychics. And the minvosky craft system. And everything else minovsky particles are involved in.

>>13702861
Quanta achieved FTL through space fairy dust magic and carried Setsuna to the ELS homeworld.

>>13702861
Because it's WAR-O-CLOCK all the time. Hard to make technological advancements outside of war machines when you're killing half your population all the time.

Also FTL is a fairy tale to begin with. There are a couple of things like 00Qan[t] teleporting across the universe or Extreme Gundam jumping from universe to universe, even Full Frontal towing Banana Drinks to the end of time, but otherwise the space travel in Gundam is limited to irl physics.

>>13702861
Because Elvis died in all but two timelines: G and IBO.

>>13702861
G-Reco's water compression is much crazier than anything in Macross

>>13702861
The Turn A prequel manga has some of the stuff you're on about

>>13703805
>implying Elvis isn't alive all the time

http://www.elvis-is-alive.com/

>>13702952
>There is no need for FTL from a literary point of view.
Yeah, if they had FTL travel the writers of IBO would actually have to think of a story to tell.

Okay, actually, that's a bad example. There's no logical reason for why IBO would have FTL given how the IBO universe is.

Where you see a lack of advancement, I see constraints.

By keeping constraints, you preserve limitations, which make combat more interesting.

If it were hyper advanced, the Minovsky problem of warfare would have been overcome and the entire reason for big robots with arms and legs would just not exist and all war would just be mutually assured destruction payload level stellar destroyers sniping eachother at the lightsecond ranges.

Combat like startrek couldn't even happen.

Better technology is not better combat, is not better story.

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>>13702861
>>No FTL Travel

>>13703183
>Giant robots themselves really aren't that technically complicated
Yes, yes they are. There are tens of thousands of people in robotics and we have only figured out the robotic leg within the last five years (and it isn't human/animal shaped). Each leg on the ASIMO takes 20 corrections a second and the thing still falls over with regularity. Automatic balance is an incredible thing that is incredibly hard to program. Wildcat is the hopeful start of the robots you want, and was designed for efficient locomotion. Efficient and possible robots rely on more simple machines. The best robot legs are basically shaped wires, following a 90 degree curve, arrayed like an insect's, and simply spin. No moving parts of the leg itself, but follows the momentum a molecule in a foot would carry.

But back on topic: I like that most of gundam is within the earthsphere. FTL seems as impossible to us as it is to them. It seemed to only take them a few short generations to put large swathes of humanity in space in some pretty nice sardine cans.

>>13704751
does FTL mean something different to you than everyone else?

>>13702861
>FTL of any kind has never been seen

to be fair, FTL is much more harder to achieve that giant robots.

You still have to solve the power issues even if you successfully developed FTL travelling and I doubt the mass-produced nuclear generator are can handle it.

>>13704691
>and the entire reason for big robots with arms and legs would just not exist

But it's not a good reason for mobile suits even under the circumstances presented, so it's not like they wouldn't include them if Minovsky particles fucking with radar wasn't a thing.

>>13703183
>Giant robots themselves really aren't that technically complicated, could make something close to one with modern technology even.
This literally what retards "think"

>>13702861
>FTL of any kind has never been seen

What it exactly happens in this ?
http://myanimelist.net/anime/4540/Gundam:_Mission_to_the_Rise

>>13703737
During war often the most advance technological advances are made. Just look to WWII where many nations still were using old planes and sometime during that war Germany introduced the world to the first operation jet fighter. America created large bomber and the atomic bomb.

Now granted if every one was tossing nukes around civilizations are very likely to collapse and technology would be lost. But I don't think Gundam was at that point quite yet as some of the beam weapons created were just too powerfully advanced.

I would agree that it's possible that FTL just isn't possible in some of the Gundam series. It's not like it's the first sci-fi to go that route.

But for as complex as giant robots are, FTL drives would be far more complex. As well as need of such vast amounts of power to use, if you can generate enough power to use a FTL drive, you'd have solved Earth's energy crisis as well.

>>13702861
Because Anaheim Electronics has a choke-chain around the economy of every nation-state in the earth sphere. Their entire business model is based on instigating conflicts and selling increasingly complex and expensive war machines to all participants, so EF/Zeon has to devote all of their wealth and resources to MS production, or get left in the dust by the shiny new suits AE made for Zeon/EF.

Couple that with the corruption and kleptocratic habits of the EF's leadership, and the political instability of a series of desperate Zeon revivals. The two major political powers of the setting are more interested in maintaining their own tenuous power (and wealth) and fighting their ideological enemy on the other side of the troposphere. Neither seems very interested in investing in the quality of life of their citizenry, or the non-military application of new technology. AE is making bank selling boondoggles and expensive one-offs to both sides, so they aren't interested either; if anything, they're buying up talent from other STEM fields.

Ultimately AE rides the Earth Federation into the ground, and crumples along with it when SNRI, its first real competition, shows up.

>>13710462
I was wrong about an important detail: while SNRI's arrival did lead to AE's decline, it predated the collapse of the Earth Federation by several decades. SNRI was the EF's in-house MS development company, so the government was, while declining, still stable enough to fund major advances in mobile suit technology between UC 110-130.

It's not until UC 150 that the EF is in such a sorry state that it can't keep its own R&D department in check, and part of SNRI goes rogue as BESPA.

how would you write a gundam series with ftl?

>>13702861
UC Gundam is in part a love letter to the works of Gerard O'Neill. It at least attempts to depict a relatively realistic vision of near future space travel. In the original show someone on the bridge of the White Base casually drops a roughly correct timeframe for an Earth-Moon Hohmann transfer, for example.

Obviously it was made in the 70s so often it doesn't look realistic, and it has a number of fictional technologies that don't exist. Other shows have different priorities and can do different things. Gundam 00 finishes with its Federation about to launch an FTL capable exploration ship on an interstellar journey, for example.

>>13711980
With Zeeks, obviously .

>>13710262