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Why do people say Gurren Lagann is good? Before you shit your

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Why do people say Gurren Lagann is good?

Before you shit your diapers I've got definitive proof that it's shit. It's never explained where Lagann came from in the show.

The entire plot is entirely reliant of Lagann somehow being buried underground for no reason.

You get people who head canon that it was leftovers from Genome defeating all his allies but that's never stated in the show. It's never addressed and is a gaping plot hole that shows the entire show is fundamentally flawed on a conceptual level.

It's almost as bad as that stupid shit in G-Reco where they taped up the G-Self for no reason.
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>>13701779
>The entire plot is entirely reliant of Lagann somehow being buried underground for no reason.
Just like the entirety of Turn A. The only explanation for why all the mobile suits are buried in mountains near the surface and in near mint condiationis a vague brush-off saying "Eh, ancient civilizations" that doesn't mean anything. Mecha is generally incredibly shit and poorly written, don't try and think too much about it. Just enjoy the mecha porn and you'll have a good time.
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>>13701779
Shut up, Warren
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>>13701779
>Why do people say Gurren Lagann is good?
>Before you shit your diapers I've got definitive proof that it's shit. It's never explained where Lagann came from in the show.
Well, Masketta-jin, have you ever considered that the people who say the show's good don't care where Lagann comes from?
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>>13701826
>This thing is shit therefore it doesn't matter
No, all you did was point out another garbage mecha that relies on plot holes.

>Just enjoy the mecha porn and you'll have a good time.
Except none of the shows I've mentioned or you've mentioned have any quality of animation to justify it. It's fucking Transformers level garbage of bright flashy colors.

Just admit that Gurren Lagann is pure fucking shit.
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>>13701841
They need to stop saying it's good then. They need to accept that it's shit.

They're acting like rabid G-Reco fans by not doing so.
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>>13701842
What the fuck? I never said Lagann was good, where the fuck did you get that?


I was agreeing with you on both Lagann and G-Wrecko being shit, which is why I wrote
>Mecha is generally incredibly shit and poorly written
I gave another overrated piece of shit as an example with Turn A, which gets praised to hell and back everything, despite its whole premise of conveniently finding mobile suits buried near the surface in mountains being a gaping plot hole that shows the entire show is fundamentally flawed on a conceptual level.

You're trying way too hard, btw.
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>>13701779
Greg?
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>>13701863
Ah, I was confused because your statement said "Turn your Brain off and enjoy it"

So you agree that Turn A, G Reco, and Gurren Lagann are all shit, shouldn't be watched and fans should be punished for saying they're good?
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>>13701871
>So you agree that Turn A, G Reco, and Gurren Lagann are all shit, shouldn't be watched and fans should be punished for saying they're good?
Absolutely, I'm glad I've never seen any of them, and only read up on them on their wikis and anime review videos. That was more than enough to know that they were shit.
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>>13701871
>>13701879
Samefagging really hard here
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See Parallel works 8 for this:
The Lagann types were precursors of the Ganmen from meteorites, presumably from another space faring civilization that tried to attack the anti-spirals
That particular Lagann either has one of 2 reasonable origins.
A: It impacted the ground in a way which would bury it far enough beneath the ground for Simon to encounter it, the humans aren't buried that far underground
B: It was one of the Ganmen used to build the holes the humans were placed in, someone accidentally left it there as the place was being covered over
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>>13701879
>>13701871
Also, there literally aren't any mecha worth watching for the story, save maybe EVA, which is why I said if you're going to watch mecha, just watch the ones that actually look realistically and well-drawn, and just enjoy the visuals, and try not to think about the glaring flaws in the writing and direction.
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>>13701779
It has exciting build up and climax.
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>>13701889
Nope
>inb4 edited
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>>13701779
You wouldn't understand if you weren't around when it came out. Same with Code Geass
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>>13701850
When has any type of fan ever genuinely enjoyed something, and acknowledged that it's shit, at the exact same time? I've never seen it happen, and to be frank, I don't think it's possible.
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>>13701779
>It's never explained where Lagann came from in the show.
It's just a robot left over from the war. What's there to explain? It doesn't even matter. Besides, out of all the glaring plotholes, that's the thing you're worried about?
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It was an old mech from the time of Lordgenome similar to the Lazengann, what's not to get? It could been buried in a fight.
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>>13701867
No please anon stop, just mentioning his name will summon him from the darkest depths of /toy/
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>>13701779
>Why do people say Gurren Lagann is good?
I don't know. Why don't you ask them instead of asking /m/?

No one likes TTGL here. You're beating a dead horse.
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>>13701925
He's already here
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>>13701779
That's what happens when you don't read all the Gurren Lagann manga, listen to the drama CD trilogy, or play the video games.

Fuckin' love me some Gurren Lagann.

All plot holes are addressed. Come at me, faggot.
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>>13701910
>>13701890
>>13701913

Is this ever stated in the show?
Ever?

If not, it's just headcanon and it's a failing on the shows part and is a plot hole
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>>13701779
It's actually a lot deeper that that. It was addressed in the Parallel Works.

Genome actually found the Laganns as a child, *before* he warred against the Anti-Spirals. It's not left over from him defeating all his allies.

They were there even before.

There's even lots of Laganns within the Galactic Spiral Abyss.
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>>13701952
I remember the guy saying that they were forced to bury them to prevent an uprising or die, but I might be remembering wrong.
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>>13701952
Yes.

Gurren Lagann Parallel Works are part of the show.

It's like watching Seed Destiny and claiming all of the shit Kira did in Seed is headcanon because Seed isn't Seed Destiny and they're two different shows.
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>>13701952
Yes. It was. Pay attention next time. Also the Parallel Works went into further detail.

OP BTFO Go home and good night
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>>13701952
Twice.
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>>13701971
>>13701972
>>13701976

Burden of proof.

Show me where exactly it's said "Lagann was buried in the earth at this location"

If you can't do that, you're just posting your headcanon.
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>tfw people are in a board dedicated to mecha saying no mech anime is worth watching for the story and are going unchallenged ;_;
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>>13701981
Burden of proof is on you first, to show us where it doesn't say that, since you made the claim in the OP first.

I'll be waiting for links to every episode.
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Why is it essential that we need to know where Lagann came from?
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Why do people assume that Lagann is some godlike mech? It's just a somewhat powerful one the likes of which could be found scattered throughout the planet TTGL is set on. It is the cast's FEELING and EMOTION put into Lagann that make it so powerful.
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>>13701779
>>13701826
>>13701842
>>13701863
>>13701891
>>13701952
>>13701981
When does school start back up? It better be soon.
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>>13702001
This, it's Simon's power.
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>>13701981
Lagann wasn't buried, nigger. It struck the earth like a meteor and Genome used it to backwards engineer spiral tech.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e2CiFbmQEg

The one Simon finds could also just be a meteor.
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>>13701991
So, you can't prove that it happened

Typical shitposter. You don't understand. I am saying that Lagann's origin was never explicitly stated or said in the show. You guys can only make conjecture based on events and have no hard evidence detailing why it was there.

>>13702005
I see no Lagann. I see meteors. I see debris. I do not see a single shot, a single bit of spoken dialogue or a single bit of relevant material indicating what you are implying. You're just shilling your headcanon like the people who try and justify why the G-Self was tied up with tape or why the Turn A was burried in a statue revered as a god. Get over yourself. Get over the fact that Gurren Lagann is built on a massive plot hole.

>>13701998
Because otherwise it's a plot hole that the entire story relies on to even exist. If a story's fucking lodestone isn't even well thought out to the point where you have to make assumptions based on events in the show, then it's show.

This kind of lazy writing infests, Gurren Lagann, Turn A, and G-Reco where you're just supposed to accept plot holes and ignore them.
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>>13702015
Did you just close your eyes really tight and start screaming at 0:40-0:42 when it shows Lagann?
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>>13702015
>never explicitly stated or said in the show. You guys can only make conjecture based on events and have no hard evidence detailing why it was there.
Is this inherently a bad thing?
It is astounding how often people say things are shit because not every single bit of everything in a show is *explicitly* explained.
What do you think of Ideon?
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STOP EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING GUISE
WE HAVE TO IMMEDIATELY SPOONFEED THIS NEWFAG A BASIC PART OF THE STORY BECAUSE HE DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION

OP, you're an idiot.
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>>13702015
I'd rather play devil's advocate and ask you to name me a single good show of anything, and I can apply the same cock-sucker autism that you're exhibiting to it. No show in the history of anything shows the inception and background of every single required variable to the degree you're requesting.

There's a bare onus of responsibility upon the viewer to not be a complete fucking retard. It sounds like you do not meet the viewing criterion required for virtually any form of media.
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>>13702015
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Fuck you greg
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>OP sits down to have dinner with his parents
>the dinner is already there, on the table, but he wasn't in the kitchen when it was being made
>Mom, what the fuck is this plot hole dinner?
>What do you mean, anon-sweetie?
>Where did this fucking food come from?
>I made it, of course.
>I didn't fucking see you make this. No where did it explicitly show you making this food, to me. I'm supposed to assume that this dinner, which is founded on the notion that you made this food, is good? IT'S FUCKING SHIT, WHAT THE FUCK
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>>13702018
>>13702028

That's not Simon's Lagann.
That's Lord Genome's.
Way to try and avoid the question.
I can't believe YOU guys are lecturing me about paying attention when you can't.

>>13702025
Ah, and here comes the typical G-Reco fan type response when someone dares criticze something they feel is a masterpiece

"HURR YOU THE RETARD RETARD RETARD"
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>>13701981
>I have to be spoon fed everything
>Star Wars was shit until the prequels came along cause we never knew why Darth Vader has a fucked up body
>Macross is shit cause we don't know why SDF-1 was headed on a course towards Earth or how it got wrecked
Ambiguity is a useful tool for pacing, and viewer intrigue to a show, also it is different to a 'Plot hole'.
You're supposed to be viewing this from Simon and crew's viewpoint, who are also only being given the same clues and understanding as the viewer. Padding and bloating a series with useless minor dialogue doesn't make a good series. See: Naruto Shippuden
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>>13701826
>The only explanation for why all the mobile suits are buried in mountains near the surface and in near mint condiationis a vague brush-off
The official explanation is nanomachine error. Some of the nanos in the Moonlight Butterfly went into "preserve" mode instead of "disassemble".
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>>13702036
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>>13702044
Same shit happened with Lagann and it was buried till Simon found it. But I guess that's a huge jump in logic for you.
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>>13702015
>Big O never tells us what the fuck happened 40 years ago or who made the Bigs. It's shit.
>Macross never tells us where the Protoculture came from. It's shit.
>Gundam never tells us how people are able to become Newtypes. It's shit.
>Where did the Getter Rays come from? It's shit.

I can go on.
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>>13702044
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>>13702044
it can be inferred that Simon found another Lagann which had buried itself just as that one had created a crater, abloo blah bjas[h
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>OP takes a shit
>looks in the toilet
>Where the hell did this shit come from? I didn't SEE my body digesting any food, and I'm just supposed to assume that I "magically" produced this shit?
>This is a ridiculous plothole
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>>13702068
>>13702053
>Inferred

So it's never shown or explained or questioned in the show?

Then it's a plot hole.

>>13702045
>>13702054
A show tells a story. A story that leaves out important info and whose fans try and hand wave it being left out as "Oh you're supposed to make something up" indicates a bad show.

Compare it something like Iron Blooded Orphans, which while no means a good show, at least has the decency to explain everything properly and doesn't need it's fans to make shit up to fill plot holes and details they failed to cover properly.
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>>13702036
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>>13702084
How is mech left on the ground a plot hole though?
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>>13702084
>it's fans
>it is fans
Learn some English before you write, fucking spic.
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>>13702084
Alright you cock, who built the Barbatos then? What happened in the Calamity War?
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>>13702084
IBO isn't finished yet, so any plotholes people try to call out on IBO can be ignored because they might still be explained.

Pick a different show that has no plot holes, friendo, at least plot holes as you claim them to be, and we'll show you the plot holes ala >>13702054
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>dat abstract feel when you hate TTGL but you're still making fun of OP for being retarded and not paying attention
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>>13702096
Simon's Lagann is the entire crux in which he narrative depends on.

Without it, nothing in the show can have taken place.

And yet the best explanation the show can give is in some side material where it's not even stated or addressed but you're suppose to assume a situation based on an entirely unrelated characters acquiring of their mech.

I'm done though, because you've all switched into the the ol Guren Lagann condescension mode. Plot holes exist, anons. The fact that you're using your imagination to fill them in does not alter that fact. You are making up your own explanation for something the show overlooked. The show isn't "challenging" me, you're just in denial about its incomplete narrative.
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>>13702104
Lord Genome built it and left it behind, just as his Lagann was done for him, obviously.

It's like pottery.
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>>13702108
Nothing in the show would have changed if they escaped to the surface after the Beastman broke through the ceiling, and they saw some beastmen riding around in Gunmen and they stole that instead. It is not the entire crux. And no narrative is dependent on Lagann.
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>>13702108
It's not like Lagann is one of a kind mech, Lazengann exists. The real power was from Simon and the others, not the mech.
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>>13702111
>>13702104
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Who cares? We are supposed to know what the cast knows and they obviously don't know where it came from. Makes no sense for them to explain shit the characters don't even know about yet.
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>>13701779
Gurren Lagann was a comedy so the only way to judge it is based on how often it made you laugh
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Everything is shit!

Except the show I like.
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>>13702108
OP's thirst for dick is the entire crux in which his argument depends on.

Without it, nothing in the thread can have taken place.

And yet the best explanation OP can give is in some fantasy where everyone is supremely autistic and unable to fathom the origins of things that don't really even need origins at all.

I'm done though, because you've all switched into "holy fuck, this guy is a complete retard". Thirst for dick exists, anons. The fact that you're not putting those dicks in his mouth does not alter that thirst. You are reasonably understanding the premise and implications of a show for something so simple that no explanation was required. The show is "challenging" OP, and he is just in denial about his thirst for dick.
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>>13701981

Man, if you ever watched Evangelion I am pretty sure it would literally kill you.
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>>13701779
>It's never explained where Lagann came from in the show.
I could have sworn Genome said it was a secret weapon used in the spiral wars during his age.
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>>13702084
>>Inferred
>So it's never shown or explained or questioned in the show?
>Then it's a plot hole.
(You)
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>>13702209
He's just being a pedantic dicksucker.

Lord Genome literally found a Lagann that smashed into Earth (PW8) and reverse engineered his own army to fight the Anti-Spirals, then he learned he fucked up, and destroyed all his comrades. There's probably dozens of buried ganmen from the war.

They don't need to directly say "LORD GENOME MUST NOT HAVE FOUND THIS BURIED LAGANN WHILE HE WAS BUSY SUCKING ALL THAT SPIRAL COCK, WHAT LUCK FOR US" because the MCs never even knew about that shit until way later, and it literally did not and does not matter.
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>>13701906
Me.

I already know that a lot of stuff I like isn't particularly well written or made, but I find it entertaining and fun. I still like it.

OP is a faggot though if he really thinks something as minor and inconsequential as Lagann's origins actually matter for this show.
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>>13701906
Because it's cowardly. It's like all these faggots who laugh when they watch a comedy movie, only to call it shit afterwards.
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>>13701779
>says one plothole makes a show bad
>posts kamen rider gaim
hypocrisy/10, go away
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>>13702084
Are people actually falling for this retard?
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Glad we're talking about plotholes. Like, look at this one right here.

They literally never explain where they got the tape to put on Robo's nose. For that matter, they never even explain who put it on there, or wrote the text on it.

Am I really supposed to suspend my disbelief so fucking high that I have to assume that this is magic teleporting paper or some shit? And don't get me started on how none of these people seem to use the bathroom at natural regular intervals.
Fuck this plothole ridden mess.
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>>13702044
>here comes the typical G-Reco fan type response
Holy shit you're retarded, I now refuse to believe you're trolling.
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Y'all niggas posting in a troll thread.
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>>13701779
>Why do people say Gurren Lagann is good?
I like it being so over the top and how in the ending humanity manage to defeat an omni powerful being. Mind you, its not a masterpiece.

>The entire plot is entirely reliant of Lagann somehow being buried underground for no reason.
That's stretching it.


It has been a while, but IIRC the Lagann was just a random robot, like the Gurrenn. It was their spiral energy what made it different.
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>>13701871
>stop liking what I don't like: the post.
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>>13701990
Everybody knows they are shitposters and are ignoring them, hoping that the the thread will die soon. And so should you.
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>>13701779
So I just watched TTGL for the first time and really enjoyed it. Care to use your superior deductive skills to explain to me why I'm wrong for enjoying it.
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>>13701906
The flick "Shoot 'Em Up" starring Clive Owen is really bad, but I like it and recommend it.
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>>13701906

If you're familiar with the Drakengard video game series, the fanbase will openly and willingly admit that the games are shit but they enjoy them for some reason. They don't even attempt to defend it sometimes.

It honestly baffles me.
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>>13709380
Drakengarders are the weirdest.

I suspect it's some sort of advanced case of kusoge appreciation.
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>>13702084
>IBO
>Explain properly
The BIGGEST problem with IBO is that it WASTES HOUR OF SCREENTIME METICULOUSLY EXPLAING PAINFULLY OBVIOUS SHIT, REPEATEDLY.

SHOW
NOT
TELL
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>>13709465
>METICULOUSLY EXPLAING PAINFULLY OBVIOUS SHIT
This
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>>13709465
Did yoy know that nobody cares about Human Debris?

Did you know Kudelia wants to help the orphans?

Did you know parts of the ship have artificial gravity?
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>>13701779
>Why do people say Gurren Lagann is good?

Same people who think Code geass is the shit and it's ending was best thing ever after sliced hands.
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>>13709465
>SHOW NOT TELL
So you want another G Reco.
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>>13710406
>Why do people say Gurren Lagann is good?>Same people who think Code geass is the shit and it's ending was best thing ever after sliced hands.

Except Gurren Lagann was the last good Gainax show.
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>>13710809
> パンティ&ストッキングwithガーターベルト
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>>13711109
>ウィブ&ファグwithチンポ
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>>13711120
>チンプ
>>>/ポール/
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>>13711349
チンポが名前だから
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