POTATO POINT EDITION
old thread's dying; this skell's still flying
>bird people were replaced by furry cat/bunny people
why. also, do you really need to find 99 lobsters?
Asking here too:
Ok I got the game, i've been reading the pastebins and all, I just joined the harriers and when I went to buy new armor I see that some armor that are high levels don't have much defense like the Survival Torse, the Prototype Bodyware that I am wearing is far better when it comes to defense however i noticed that in the survival torse there's a +20 to a shield with a beam icon, Not sure what that means but I guess its beam defenses or something? I'm guessing armors in this game dont work as traditional RPs where better Defense = Better armor.
You can play all of the game offline.
Better Defense is good, and if you want to just build purely for it you'll probably be fine, but what you want to pay the most attention to is abilities. Gear with Treasure Sensor will greatly improve enemy drop rates, for instance, so it might be worth equipping at least one or two armor parts with that. It's usually not worth giving up a ton of Defense for abilities, but it's worth giving up a little.
You'll also find enemies drop Worn and Advanced variations of gear, which often has different and much stronger abilities.
CHECK THE LINKS BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS!
Read the OP -> Check Pastebins -> Check the Google Docs -> Google it -> Double Check Thread -> Post here
>Pastebin w/ answers to commonly asked questions:
>Pastebin w/ Guides to lvl 60 Skell Frame & Super Weapon Materials, Storage/Dupe/Boost Probe Locations, & other general purpose info:
>Xenoblade X All Purpose 'Everything' Google Doc - for H2H, Affinities, Tyrants, Collectopedia, Etc:
>Tyrant's Locations and Drops (WIP)
>Region Maps w/ Marked Locations
>Region Maps w/ Location of Collectables
>How the Battle System Works: For Idiots & Nerds who like math:
>Blood Lobster Locations
>Steam group for Squad Missions
>>bird people were replaced by furry cat/bunny people.
There is still hope for the future.
Not that surprising given how the Ares may still be below the Hero Skell at this point in time.
That danger is always there. But maybe, just maybe, we will get a few more games in the sequence this time around.
I just got the game, is there any way to track what collectibles are found in each location later on in the game, or am I going to have to consult the internet every time I get some WoW-tier fetch quest?
They ditch the create-a-character I ditch the series. They can easily remedy the voiceless thing without getting rid of the custom avatar. The standard looking JRPG hero just doesn't do it for me.
>letting your dialogue be constrained by the need to have all these lines acted out
It's what's been killing characterization and story in western RPGs for a while now. Takes you out of playing the actual role and makes you into a viewer of a story that you just sort of nudge.
All the MC has to do audibly is grunt. Ain't no thing to have 4-5 voice sets for that.
You get the Collectopedia (and you get gobs of BP from filling that out, so do it), but that just tells you the continent. Different areas have different collectibles.
Thankfully you also get BLADE points for collectibles, so just grab everything you can every time you go anywhere. Only take Gathering quests you already have everything for, you'll often find you do. Story quests will usually tell you where to go for something you need.
Xenoblade X was originally going to have a voiced protagonist and they added the mute avatar mid development. Personally, IMO, it's very obvious that the main story and most Affinity Quests obligatory for the story were written with Elma in mind as the protagonist and they just threw the avatar there. When you get to the Affinity Quests for the formerly DLC characters, or even the optional party members, or normal quests with more developed story, they generally do a much better job than the main story at making your avatar seem important.
Heh, I remember In Elma's last affinity mission, there's a choice that let the avatar to claim to be the leader now.
Which Lin swiftly respond "Oh, shut up"
>When you get to the Affinity Quests for the formerly DLC characters, or even the optional party members, or normal quests with more developed story, they generally do a much better job than the main story at making your avatar seem important.
True. While BLADEs are all gushing for Team Elma, people (mostly xenoforms) we help in normal missions speak highly of the avatar. And even H.B consider the avatar as his greatest rival. I haven't get into his last affinity mission yet but I never heard him talking about Elma not even once.
lin's face looks awful for some reason, which is weird, because elma's and the other girls' faces look fine. the guys are hit or miss: gwin looks full downs syndrome, but my avatar looks completely normal.
Nah, if they're tied together, it's a distant sequel.
Mira has many ruins, legends and artifacts that seem to be references to the original Xenoblade.
Many Noppon legends are Xenoblade references too, and there are also collectible artifacts like a wooden statue of bionis and mechonis and a machine to fuse Ether crystals, but without Ether Crystals in Mira it's now useless.
If they fit together, what most likely happened is that Mira is the world created at the end of the original Xenoblade, but every race aside from the Noppon left the planet at some point, probably when it ran out of Ether crystals.
still no word on who this dude was? i assumed it was your character, and that would have been a big reveal, but son't think it makes sense. i haven't passed chapter 10 yet though, so excuse if this gets answered.
I wish the human enemies had a more varied Skell selection. It's odd how they're all just Urbans with different paint jobs.
Do you guys share your NNID for playing online? Just some links on the previous thread but im not sure if you have to be always active, because of that im not sure if i should join the squads. I just started coming to /m/ recently because of this game
>So, a self-insert?
No. I'm not projecting myself onto the character. I want to play someone who looks cool nothing more. The character can have a written personality. You don't know the definition of that internet slang you're using.
I bet you do a lot of self-inserting. Please suck your own cock until you compact into nonexistence.
How the fuck? I'm not projecting myself unto the character. The character can have a predetermined story and personality, with no choices available. I'm not inserting myself into the game, asswipe.
>I need a character to be a big cool tough man person because I hate everyone who isn't a big tough cool man person!
You know you're literally no different than the Tumblrinas whining about there's not enough games that let them play as a brown transgendered lesbian, right?
I get tired of people mistaking Taka's usual references as reason to say this is a sequel/prequel to XC
There are multiple factors that lead to this conclusion
The new universe that Shulk created was one where a god was not needed, Earth was still blown up, it wasn't just a simple reset where everything was set back. All that happened was that there were new rules applied to the land of the bionis and mechonis. Earth is destroyed in two very different ways. If it wasn't obvious before, the nopons are pretty much a huge source of references and fanservice. When Tatsu was asked what a Hom Hom was, he replied he didn't know and simply looks at the viewer very tongue and cheek. If anything, this game has more in common with Perfect Works episode one than XC when it comes to the main parts of the plot.
I'm so fucking tired of people getting this wrong. Pay attention when people talk in the game god damn.
The Skell at the beginning that saves the WW above Mira is 'The Hero Skell'. The Hero Skell is a TANDEM SKELL, meaning it required TWO PEOPLE to pilot it. Elma was one of those pilots, the other is only referred to as 'The Hero'. Any time he is brought up in the game Elma quickly changes the subject.
During the fight above Mira Elma was forcibly ejected by The Hero who then disappeared into space in the middle of the battle.
You really do suck at quoting, don't you?
Also, next time, ctrl + s
Earth was used as a medium of a universe creation machine. It's gone buddy. And like I sai before, Taka fucking loves to reference his past games into his other works. Did you know Luka explains to you the significance of the save system in Xenogears? Did you know that there are multiple gears in saga that served as special extra bosses? Or that abel and elly were used as base character designs for 2 characters in saga? Nothing is ever so mysterious with Taka and pretty much the only things that are canon are the stuff he outright says that is canon
(Reposting with fixed spoilers)
The new universe that Shulk created was one where a god was not needed, Earth was still blown up, it wasn't just a simple reset where everything was set back. M Earth was never "blown up" in Xenoblade 1 though. It got erased alongside the rest of the nearby universe and replaced by the endless ocean and the two giants.
If Shulk's new universe rebuilt things as planets and space and such, rather than just an ocean and two gods, then it's possible that there could be an Earth out there too, separate from their new world.
Like I said above, I mentioned the Noppon references, but they aren't the only ones. Several of the collectible artifacts that you obtain are tied to Xenoblade too.
Also, regarding the new universe not needing gods... the one that existed before Shulk's also didn't need gods, but they created one on their own.
I could see your point if the references to Xenoblade were just Noppon jokes, but when they start mixing Xenoblade references with Mira's lore, it's hard to look at them and starting going all "this counts", "this one was just a joke", "this counts", "this one was just a joke"...
No idea I only had a quick look. But here's the thread. https://gbatemp.net/threads/xenoblade-chronicle-x-undub.405092/
On the second page onward they start discussing the uncensor and how to do it.
It is as >>13675082 said. But since then there has really been no more news about this kit.
>>Really hope they're not canceled.
Same here. It would be a very hard hit to the heart if it was.
They're Urban. The main difference is in their armor plate. Formula is rounded like Orbital Frames while Urban is angular, more tank-like (that fits their MP status).
I spot few Inferno in Division Drive and some Base Camp. Then Irina used a Lailah in chapter 8 cutscene. Other than those, it's all Urban for NPCs.
>>It's gone buddy.
Dude just wants to play with a Face-like Skell in the future. You can't blame him for that.
>Mfw we will never see it again
>>It's odd how they're all just Urbans with different paint jobs.
It's extra weird given the 'Fact' that the Inferno is the one thats supposedly mass-produced and thus more likely to get in all sides and factions.
My head hurts trying to decipher this infinite overdrive or another broken builds people made.
I guess it should be more fun to create my own build, as lame as it is, instead of just copying someone else without understanding the proper mechanics.
>The level 60 skells with super weapons are better than the ares 90 anon, trust us
>Level 60 skells are like 1/4 as durable
>Have 1/3rd the fuel capacity
>The super weapons deal about 10% as much as the Ares' super lasers
Fuck this grind. I'm just going to make a billion XX Ultrafauna for my Ares 90, one shot the Telethia, and be done with this game.
Just finished the intro part. I went into this game expecting to hate Lin right away and it turns out she's /m/ as fuck. She's kind of growing on me.
Other than the potato head (seriously all the characters look weird) why the hate?
>are you 13
>wow skell fanfiction
>isn't she such a super genius/hard worker man everyone should be like her
>don't shoot the
Mild things that build up over time, and the fact that I am forced to use her throughout the story mode, Alexa is just Lin but more /m/ and less annoying.
This. Elma and Lin get exhaustive because they are 90% of the plot. Have no idea why they just hung all these other characters out to dry and only focused on those two.
One of the best things chapter 12 does is focus on an actual core team, so you have all the characters bouncing dialogue off each other and not just Lin and Elma.
It's pretty obvious Elma was made to be the actual main character and Cross was added later. If she and Lin were taking up two slots out of four with two to shuffle, it wouldn't be nearly as big a grind.
I stopped using them in postgame, but that's in order to grind up all the other characters, I don't mind either of them. Hell, they're probably the two most consistently useful characters, I never feel with most of the rest like they're actually helping in battle.
Totally agree about them. I just get them to a point I'm satisfied with, and prefer to cycle through everyone else now (111 hours in, only done with Ch. 9) to grind them out as well. Right now I'm trying to get everyone to level 40. I also want to build up other affinities now since I need them for affinity missions. I already agreed on Frye (I think? Might be the other blonde male companion with the rebellious personality. I think as being my permanent #4 once everyone else is maxed. IIRC he has the ridiculous Skell skills that'd make him helpful in combat.
I got embarassingly rekt by one of them in Sylvalum, yesterday. On the plus side, my skell getting destroyed by it didn't cost my insurance. I don't think I got a perfect. Should I wait until everyone can pilot a lvl 50 skell until trying?
>I got embarassingly rekt by one of them in Sylvalum, yesterday
Is that the shithead that likes to just fly around the first big area of Sylvarum and if you're in your skell you'll just kill you out of nowhere?
Nope. This faggot.
I was trying to lure out another tyrant in its hexagon that only shows up when he appears, and tried driving around to get him to erupt, but eventually knew I needed to drive right over the "sarlacc." I tried flying away with a boost as soon as I got up, but I wasn't fast enough.
I got my Ares 90 destroyed by a Tyrant in Oblivia's Yawning Giant. The Agashura cannon only shaved like almost half of its health. If only I have cockpit time I could win, I guess I was just unlucky (and unprepared).
Moral of the story, without proper augments there are things out there that can still wreck your Ares.
>Chapter 9 boss
Well shit this is what I get for relying on my sick ass giant robots.
How is a man meant to deal with that Tiger dude's sick damage output
should I just grind more credits and get a bunch of gravity augments?
I love reading enemy index in this game. As someone with a degree in biology I found it to be fascinating. There are predictable ones like how Grexes hunting in pack led by an alpha and how Simius is as smart as earth's gorilla, mephites can emit foul odor like skunk etc but there are surprising ones
>Viragos are actually led by females
>Grotesque-looking Cantors sleep their babies with pleasant-sounding lullaby
>Apricas have photosynthetic and ether absorption ability
>Lepyxes that we saw in the middle of grassland of Primordia bred at sea and their young stay inside the water until their limbs grow
And those are just from Theroid entry. Reminds of FFXII index, that one written like description of ancient naturalists.
I changed classes to to whichever is before Mastermind, and kept my entire team alive the whole time, then gave everyone a gbuster for the mech portion. Every other way was hard as fuck.
I went back to duelist which is the class I felt most comfortable with so far, equip a longsword and just spam them cooldowns, tornado blade + true stream something does a ton of aoe damage to also take care of the other cats that butt in
Finally a got a Skell License after putting it off because people were saying it's better to explore everything possible before getting a Skell.
I can definitely see why, having one spoils you, especially with the mobility and how it allows you take on monsters with much higher levels than you. Though trying to maintain a full team of them is a pain in the ass. But being able to take out a lvl 60 monster with no casualties is satisfying.
I ended getting an Inferno, and calling it Kampfer due to giving it a blue paint job and the rail guns I put on it look similar the panzers.
Yggra is back for 6 days,for anyone who want to farm tickets in new year's eve.
But does that mean I have to wait that long to reap my reward from reducing its RP? I need those Noble Yggralith Scales.
Being able to wear a pilot suit and actually have it affect your skell is sweet.
Can anti topple augment works against Yggra or will that fucker keep me toppled anyway even with augments?
A tyrant level 68 named Caesar the hundred eyed in western edge of primordia drops level 60 Skell wear set. Easy to kill too.
I'm not sure, if you're using a Skell (preferably the Ares) you can fly high enough that all your arts can still hit him but you won't be toppled by his jump. His other attack will still topple you when he charges it up though.
They're materials for an end-game Skell called the Ares 90, AKA the most broken weapon in a game since Perfect Dark's Farsight.
>See someone is hosting a yggra run
>They're level 12
>Decides to go with just me, I mean I have an Ares
>Proceeds to waste all 3 retries in 1 minute
Just because it says the minimum level is 1, don't expect others to carry you if you keep dying.
Yeah my run was pretty awful too. That level 20 guy dies instantly. Then other Ares than me decided to dismount and trying to tackle Yggra on foot. Probably testing his broken build or something. He later died and consuming one retry. Meanwhile the other guy with level 50 Lailah died twice and ended up wasting other retries.
Could have been much better than just 20 RP.
The mission ends once the timer runs out. You still get drops like yggralith nuts and such but no exp since you didn't actually kill it. Conversely, abandoning only nets you part breaks..
Am I the only one having problems with text size? I strain to read the text if I'm sitting on my couch so I have to sit closer to the TV, which kind of hurts my eyes. I literally can't read some shit when I'm on the couch. Am I fucked?
You're fucked, I got used to it but there's honestly no fix for it, I was mad too and nintendo isn't gonna fix shit, this is all we get, I complained everywhere when it came out and no one cared because the game's good enough. 150 hours in reading this tiny ass text on the gamepad screen.
Well it looks like I can't play this fucking game.
Seriously I have issues with using the internet/videogames too much. My eyes will rot out fast enough as it is. I wish I knew this before I bought it.
Does this work on physical disk versions of the game? I haven't downloaded it yet sorry if this i sretarded.
>I don't have enough research probes, nor do I know where to get more.
Gotta use those field skills, anon. You get some from missions, but I get the bulk of my probes from the yellow items in the field you loot with your Mechanical, Archeologicy, Biology skills.
Not where she came from, who the other faction was, her co-pilot, her true motives as to why to save the human race, more info on the Samarrians and Ganglion, etc. I'm sure I'm missing a few things.
>beat game, get 1 Silver Vita Core as a drop
>okay, so just 3 more for Ares!
>some playtime later, after buying 2 of them, thus having 3 total
>go back to check what I need
>2/4 Vita Cores
Okay so what the fuck? Unless I really did only buy one and I remembered wrong, why would I be missing one?
I'd like to know this, was killing and killing Yggralith the entire day yesterday and have only taken about 1000 rp, with about 60 rp done per fight, it'd require a massive amount of people at my level to do it but maybe better players can do some insane damage to it.
yeah, it'd be great if only people actually joined in when I start a lobby, and then there's the case of me joining a lobby but then someone actually dies 3 times before the time runs out
Well most of us are on the same friends list here, so someone just needs to post when they'll host a lobby and what squad they're in and we can try to organize it from there I suppose.
>Admusias' initial level 30 head piece is unique to the level 30 version
>no way to change from the horned head in higher level versions
I think they were last minute additions because the game didn't have a boss that was utter bullshit yet. Seriously fuck that fight.
>That's some awfully nice TP you have there
>It would be a shame if anything happened to it
Finally hit level 30 and looking to grab some Skells. I'm going to grab a Verus/Wels for Elma and an Inferno for myself, but don't know what to get Lin.
What's a good 'tank' skell? Mastema? Amdusias?
The only good Skells before postgame are Mastema and Amdusias. Mid and light Skells are so flimsy by comparison that they're never worth using unless you don't have anything else at the moment. Or the Ares 90, which is as tough as a heavy but maneuvers like a light.
Amdusias comes with the E-Scythe, which does great damage from behind and is probably the best default weapon. The only time to switch it out is when you're ready to take on the south Sylvalum base and get yourself an orange-rarity G-Buster to replace it. I usually give Lin a Mastema.
Haven't dabbled in the light 30 ones and don't recall them dying too much, but the level 50 light ones are amazing. Fantastic evasion, especially with the one shield equipment too boost it further.
>The only good Skells before postgame are Mastema and Amdusias.
L O L
>put lin in mastema
>her stupid ass literally dies immediately every time no matter what while Elma and I's Wels + Urban are left to deal with shit
I've had the exact opposite experience, I stuck Elma in a Wels and Lin in a Mastema and Lin was the one left standing in any serious engagement.
The default G-Buster's fine, E-scythe does slightly more damage but it has a piss-easy damage trigger condition. By the time you can get an orange E-scythe you need to be able to fight a pretty strong Tyrant, whereas getting an orange G-Buster happens at the same time you're getting your orange Phoenix to put horde encounters in easy mode, so it's easiest to start with an Amdusias and then give that the G-Buster since Amdusias has Thermal Up on its frame parts to go with Phoenix.
Much like the entire game, it's barely touched upon but like Elma says that it's because of her. She's clearly some form of royalty. She either went to Earth on her own to help the descendants of the Samaar to fight back if the Ganglion ever find out or she was exiled/ran away. By going to Earth, she left a trail for others to follow.
The other race is likely Elma's considering their design and her true look and "Hero" suit design (she was the first on in the colony to fight back and there she is >>13673549).
The initial prologue that says Earth was collateral is likely just a story made up to keep Elma's secret.
This is all coming out of my ass of course. Just educating guessing since Monolith decided to explain jack shit.
I've found that if you're relying on AI, you'd want high potential and high defence to both take heavy hits and heal enough using soul voices. That usually just means using Heavy with potential-increasing gear and a range of arts to trigger soul voices.
It's really fucking confusing because there are like 3 different version of the ares that all look basically the same aside from color, I know for a fact Prog Ares was built with human tech but no idea on the original or the 70 & 90
I also only get about 800 tickets on each run no matter how much RP I score (earlier this week I was only getting 30 but now im doing 90 per fight), but that's fair I think, 8 minutes fighting for 800 tickets, that's better than running around doing squad tasks. I guess directly looking for the item drops can be faster but I prefer this.
nvm im retarded, you can abandon the mission halfway through when you're done with all the limbs so it's actually 800 tickets for 3 or 4 minutes, it's actually crazy good
Does RP gained still counted if we abandon the mission instead of letting the timer runs out?
But I guess people who break the parts then abandon don't really care much about RP, just tickets.
>Finished blood lobster side mission, that was fucked-up
>Cake-obsessed Wrothian side mission next, that was funny
>Murderess last affinity mission after that, that was fucked up
This game is such a roller coaster
>mfw I've completed all three Off the Records before Ch 11
Fighting that Cinicula for the Archeological was the hardest part, but man, losing the rest of my Skell crew, then having mine down to 1000 hp before firing that last shot and finishing it off? Fucking priceless feel.
You can see her and the other survivor in one of the commercial districts' food places afterwards.
Really, by the end game sidequests I'm happy to just see people survive. If a new goofy character appears it seems highly likely they'll just be killed off if they go outside New LA.
I wonder when it happened, since the January 2013 first reveal showed us things that made it into the final product (including multiplayer).
There was an interview where the director talked about changing the approach and going with the avatar and a less cinematic focus due to budget issues (focusing on world design and cutscenes are usually the most expensive part of jrpgs). I'd guess that character and story concept was thrown out pretty early though, considering how not even the earliest known video lines up with that stuff.
This makes me somewhat confused about the main story on the other hand. I had assumed that the reason the avatar is pretty much a non-entity in the main story, but has a large presence in sidequests, is because they already had some cutscene assets done by the time they decided to implement the avatar, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
I don't have sound webms, but I do have this.
What's that? You want to drive your skell around the shores of lake Ciel?
>Then beat pharsis
>Bully every other giant lvl 80/90 in the game
>Can't beat lugalbanda
Fighting on foot is impossible, I finally understand how to do the infinite overdrive but I do shit damage and I guess I just eventually forget to use ghostwalker and he just kills me
Rules of Nature version WHERE?!
Agreed. This one is so fitting is almost scary.
>that feel you turn your Skell into Valvrave by accident
A well customized level 60 is stronger than an Ares 90, but getting there requires grinding up drops from Tyrants you can easily one-shot with a basic Ares 90, so the usual process is to build an Ares to ease up grinding the materials required for the augments and such needed to build a strong level 60 skell.
I always painted that one to resemble pic related