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>>13558378
I remember.
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>>13558378

Oh hey, it's the only good show to be used in Robotech.
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Why does it become shit after the first few episodes? I have 5 episodes left so hopefully it will end well.
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>>13558505
He posted Mospeada, not Macross anon.
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>>13558505
Be careful anon, you know how macrossfags are when you even imply their series isn't good
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>>13558985
They respectfully disagree with your implication?
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>>13559112
Oh you poor, sweet, innocent soul...
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>>13558505
You know, some of the comic art isn't that bad.
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>>13559206
>some of the comic art isn't that bad.

Dude, that comics is more than half bad.
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>>13559317
Hence why I said "some" rather than "most."
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>>13559112
Certifiably wrong
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Anyway, here's some original art not conjured by HG.
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>>13559206
That shit looks worse than 1940's bootleg Superman dude.
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>>13558505
But he didn't post Southern Cross.
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>>13562553
Okay.
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Yellow is love.
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Here's how a bike becomes a suit of armor.
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It would be nice to know what is being said in the commentary.
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Here's some line art, starting with WMDs capable of annihilating the Earth's surface.
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I can only imagine what this says.
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Closeup.
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Classic Bartley.
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Now for superior armor.
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It's only appropriate that best bike goes to best everything.
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The qt beneath the armor.
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>>13562566
Of the three shows that went into Robotech, SoCross is the only one I thought was just okay.
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>About the transforming bike, there was a plan for "AD Patrol" (unpublished) that was a story of the city police. The main character rides a motorbike, which changes into his partner robot. That’s why the design drawing of the bike has "police" on it as the very first set up. We created the concept of a motorbike transforming into a fortified suit back then. So, it’s rooted on the future police story.

-Hideki Kakinuma
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>>13571422
Thankfully Artmic didn't let these ideas go to waste.
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It would be nice to see new material but only if it came directly from Aramaki or Kakinuma.
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It would be awesome to see something like this animated.
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>>13574531
>since this is a non-transforming bike, there are no tyres
Can't really call it a bike then, can you?
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>>13577920
The design process itself must have been tiring.
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>>13558378
I don't recall the ride armor making a person 7 feet tall.
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>>13562699

Ah, the TE Warheads. Iirc, their yield was equal to or greater than the dino killer. They were going to hit Earth with 12 of them at once.
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>>13580144
It's close to it.
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>>13580226
>their yield was equal to or greater than the dino killer

Yet the Inbit wiped them all out on their way out.
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Speaking of dino killers...
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>>13581419

Anon, they had achieved a higher level of existence...they became the /m/ version of the Q.

>>13581550

In all reality...what would it take to put down a T-Rex?
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>>13581419

I get the feeling the warheads weren't to be armed until they made landfall.
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>>13588546
>>13562699 and >>13581404 are, while >>13574497 and >>13574502 appear in the Artmic B-Club Special. I'm not sure what book, or books, the rest originate from.
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>>13584148
>In all reality...what would it take to put down a T-Rex?

Its hide wouldn't be much thicker than that of an elephant, so a high caliber rifle designed for big game hunting would likely suffice.

Of course marksmanship would also be a factor.
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>>13587383
They were already armed when they were launched. They were literally going to be death from above.

So desperate was the Liberation Force to defeat the Inbit that they were willing to sacrifice not only their own ground forces but all life on Earth.
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>>13595919

But if they were armed, then wouldn't the explosions after the Inbit destroyed the warheads have been different than what we saw?
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>>13596474
They were vaporized while still in the vacuum of space. Even the oxygen-filled ships fueled by highly combustible HBT were wiped away without hesitation.
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>>13574465
>>13574474
These two appeared in a 2007 issue of Hobby Japan Magazine along with an interview of Hideki Kakinuma. These were his redesigns for if the series was ever redone.
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Great thread, thanks
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>>13602751
Well I really dig this show.
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>>13591303
The stuff with the english text comes from the 'Imai Files,' a pdf created by one Roger Harkavy. He had a friend in Japan who obtained a bunch of stuff from Imai after it went bankrupt. Among these were several envelopes, one containing design concepts from Artmic for Mospeada and the others containing concept designs for what would become Southern Cross.

Roger scanned the unpublished stuff & released it as a pdf back in 2010.

Here we have some armour designs, back when Southern Cross was supposed to be 'Sci-Fi Sengoku.'
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Mospeada, I like this anime. The bikes that transform in your armour was so cool. I dreamed to have one to go to school.
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>>13591303

Any scans of that particular book in the image?
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Is it true they based Houquet's design on Akina Nakamori?
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>>13607473
I've been wondering what I could possibly want this year, but a scanner sounds like a good idea.
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>>13607454
This guy has been bringing it closer to reality.

http://www.bbb-bike.com/mospeada/vol24.html
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>>13559430
That's from one of the art book, not the comic. Just sayin'
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>>13614460
There is artwork in both the Robotech comics and art books that is pretty decent.
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>>13614775
This is how I imagine him dealing with vampires.
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I get that Blowsperiors are good for long-ranged support and Bartley As for recconaissance, due to its shoulder missiles, but role-wise, what are the two MOSPEADA models and Bartley Ls?
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>>13620236
They're generally for conventional combat. While the Blowsuperior and Bartley are both specially designed, the Mospeada is the common infantry armor.
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>>13620236

>>I get that Blowsperiors are good for long-ranged support due to its shoulder missiles,and Bartley As for recconaissance, but role-wise, what are the two MOSPEADA models and Bartley Ls?

Fixed

>>13620470

Thanks

Speaking of the MOSPEADAs, why two variants (F type and T type)?
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>>13620653
>why two variants (F type and T type)?

I suppose it's for armament variation. There are instances where the missile launchers would be necessary, and then there are times when the laser cannon would suffice.

Considering the military experience Stick has over Ray, and how seldom seen the missile launchers are on other soldiers, they must require greater skill to use over the laser cannon.
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>>13622244

Thanks

If we do get a remake of the series, think it should also explain how Houquet and Yellow getting their Bartley L and Blowsperior respectively, especially with Yellow, due to the fact he had no Blowsperior in that flashback in episode 11.
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>>13625168
>he had no Blowsperior in that flashback in episode 11

You'll notice in the first episode that Stick has his Mospeada stored on board the Legioss. Odds are that Yellow had the Blowsuperior stored aboard his Legioss as well.

As for Houquet, one can imagine she probably acquired the Bartley the same way that Ray found his Mospeada: she must have salvaged it from a wreck or military ruins.
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What I would like to see if Aramaki or Kakinuma ever come back to this is more of the Inbit in their biological forms. The way they fuse with their mechanical bodies is very similar to the Paranoid in Gall Force.
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It would also be interesting to see how other humanoid Inbit deal with human instincts, emotions, and limitations both in and out of battle.
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>Cosmic wave for you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkmyURXhDoE
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Has this had a bluray?
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>>13626504
Yes....2 years ago
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>>13626045

>>You'll notice in the first episode that Stick has his Mospeada stored on board the Legioss. Odds are that Yellow had the Blowsuperior stored aboard his Legioss as well.

First of all, he wasn't piloting a Legioss in that flashback. He was piloting this: A AF-03C Combat heavy fighter/bomber. Second, he wasn't dragging a Blowsperior with him when he ditched Donna to continue his fight with the Inbit. Meaning he could have found the Blowsperior in some military ruins like Ray, and as you say, Houquet did.

Also, given that Lim Dal-Young (Freezing, Kurokami) was involved with Gundam (discussion starting from >>13577331), how would a MOSPEADA remake be pulled off if he were involved?
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>>13628432

Forgot pic
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>>13612551
>http://www.bbb-bike.com/mospeada/vol24.html
I wonder if he'll try to make Garland of Megazone 23.
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>>13628432
I had to rewatch the episode but you are correct. Yellow was with the First Invasion Fleet and therefore would have been piloting a Combat.

However, it's possible he had the Blowsuperior stored on board the craft and only came back for it later.

>Donna

Her name was Carla.
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>>13628432
>>13628672
He was wearing the Riding Suit when he crash-landed, meaning the armor bike must have been with him.
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>>13626504
>>13627704
Correct. Bunny Hat began subbing over a year ago and to date has only completed half the show.

https://www.nyaa.eu/?page=view&tid=602840
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>>13628600

Won't count on it. If you recall the dimensions (maneuver slave mode: overall height 3.85 meters; maneuver craft mode: overall height 0.94 meters, overall length 3.96 meters, overall width 1.35 meters), especially with how Shogo barely avoided the authorities in Part I, remaking the Garland will be difficult.

>>13628672

>>I had to rewatch the episode but you are correct. Yellow was with the First Invasion Fleet and therefore would have been piloting a Combat.

If he were First Invasion Fleet, wouldn't he be as old as Jim then? Because he doesn't look that old compared to Stick, Ray, and Houquet.

>>Her name was Carla.

My bad. Thanks for correcting me.

>>13628684

>>He was wearing the Riding Suit when he crash-landed

But don't most characters wear their Riding Suits when using the transformable fighters? Likewise with Jim during the last two episodes?
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>>13629045
>If he were First Invasion Fleet, wouldn't he be as old as Jim then? Because he doesn't look that old compared to Stick, Ray, and Houquet.

The first fleet arrived three years before the second, making Yellow only a couple years older than Stick. Jim had either been with the military longer than Yellow prior to the First Invasion, or he simply enlisted at an older age.

>My bad. Thanks for correcting me.

You're welcome, and thanks for pointing out my oversight with the Combat.

>But don't most characters wear their Riding Suits when using the transformable fighters?

Yes and if they're all equipped as Stick was, they've got an armor bike loaded with their fighter craft so that they won't be left defenseless and immobile in case their fighter is left inoperable.

>Likewise with Jim during the last two episodes?

Odds are Jim abandoned his armor bike when he ran away, though as a mechanic he probably wouldn't have used it as much to begin with.
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>>13628600
The Garland is much larger than your average motorcycle, closer in size to a sedan. It would be nice to see him or someone else attempt it, but it would be a much greater challenge.

>>13629045
>13' x 4' x 3'

He'd have less difficulty putting together a Motoslave.
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I think I'm gonna make this my first /m/ anime.
Been wanting to watch some older stuff anyway, the music seems rad too.
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>>13628701
Wait, are these 13 eps only half the show? Fuck, are they still working on it?
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>>13630735
Excellent choice. If you're looking to break into the mecha genre and get a glimpse of 80s anime, this is a good series to start with.
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>>13630739
Bunny Hat has apparently been busy with other projects.
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Yellow and Jim, I can understand, but how exactly were Ray and Houquet able to pilot Legiosses without problems after the former got his Iota Legioss and the latter getting her Zeta Legioss?
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>>13633451
Ray glanced through the operation manual for the Tread and did well enough to get it off the ground and even survive a crash landing. Considering that Jim with his military training had difficulty piloting the Tread, it seems that the operation system for piloting a Legioss must be less complicated.

As for Houquet, she claimed to be adequate with machinery. It's possible she may have had prior experience with air craft.

They initially did well enough to pilot in Armo-Fighter mode. They were probably instructed shortly after on how to efficiently operate both Armo-Diver and Armo-Soldier modes.
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>>13634226

Thanks
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>>13635066
No problem. I really am enjoying this back and forth exchange. It's good to rewatch certain scenes and episodes and pick up on things I hadn't noticed before.
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I know Love, Live, Alive is the sequel to the TV series, but how many years past since the TV series?
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>>13638819
I can't find a source for it anywhere, but I recall reading somewhere that LLA is set two years after the show's conclusion.
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>>13641926

I doubt it would have been two years since the TV series. I mean, in the beginning of Love, Live, Alive, the ruins Yellow visits at the beginning have moss covering not only the buildings, but wrecked human and Inbit equipment.
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>>13644638
That equipment could have been there since the First Invasion Fleet. You'll notice similar remains in the city during the second episode of the show. Vines and moss can also grow quickly based on the climate conditions. Half the show takes place throughout South America and it's never indicated what region LLA takes place.

You'll also notice towards the end that Mint doesn't appear noticeably older than she does by the show's conclusion.
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Does anyone have the soundtrack in FLAC? I thought I found some online Japanese retailers selling it in 24-bit lossless but I can't buy it even if I wanted to because I don't have a Japanese IP.
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>>13645255
You might just have to purchase the albums and rip them yourself. All the sites I know of only have the OST available in the MP3 format.
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>>13645255
>>13645340
Ask over in this thread >>13465774

They might be able to help
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>>13645094

Then what about all the awards displayed in Yellow and Solzie's place near the end?
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>>13648142
What about them?
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>>13651842

Given how many there are, I doubt Yellow got all those awards in two years.

Also, I've noticed something. Given that Macross, this, and Southern Cross had Tatsunoko involved in production of all three, and that they have Mika Doi in all three, would Doi's casting in the aforementioned shows be due to Tatsunoko?
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>>13651950
Then how do you explain Mint not appearing noticeably older? She's already 14 by the end of the show.

As for the awards, they could each be based on a different certification such as album or single. It would be especially easy if there was little to no competition in post-Inbit civilization.
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>>13567774
>>13562566
Does that show have any subs? I really like 80's sci-fi anime in general.
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>>13654292
>Then how do you explain Mint not appearing noticeably older? She's already 14 by the end of the show.

That's what I don't get about Love, Live, Alive being two years after the TV series. If that were the case, everyone, not just Jim, should have aged. Stick and Aisha are somewhat exempted due to the former being from Mars, which has a different timezone, and the latter being a newly-born humanized Inbit.

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As for the awards, they could each be based on a different certification such as album or single. It would be especially easy if there was little to no competition in post-Inbit civilization.

>>As for the awards, they could each be based on a different certification such as album or single. It would be especially easy if there was little to no competition in post-Inbit civilization.

>>As for the awards, they could each be based on a different certification such as album or single. It would be especially easy if there was little to no competition in post-Inbit civilization.

There is that.
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>>13651950
Concerning Mika Doi, it may have been a combination of both Tatsunoko appreciating her voice acting talent along with her immediate availability. Hirotaka Suzuoki was just as greatly admired by Tatsunoko as he was by Sunrise and even worked with other studios in between SDF Macross, Mospeada, Orguss, Southern Cross, DYRL, and LLA.
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>>13558378
Was there no creditless version of this opening in the BluRay release?
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>>13657704

If they ever remake MOSPEADA, who do you think can succeed Doi if she doesn't have vocal muscle to reprise as Houquet anymore?

New question. Where did Gears Online get their info about the characters? Here's Stick's:

Stick Bernard
Age: 20
Place of birth: Mars, Mars Base
Hobbies: Computer games, jigsaw puzzles, other
Special skills: Operating mecha
Music: Wagner’s marches, war songs
Blood type: A
Favorite phrase: "Cooperation breeds success".
Preferred type: I like a quiet and modest, intellectual girl.
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>>13659085
>Where did Gears Online get their info about the characters?

It states at the bottom of the intro page that the sources came from the Imai Files by Roger Harkavy, now currently a dead link.
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>>13662359

Thanks, but what about my question about whoever can succeed Doi?

Re-watched episode 3 yesterday, and I have this to ask: How does Houquet know of the name "Legioss" anyways when she watched Stick use the one Jim gave him?
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>>13659085
>>13662660
I'm not familiar with most modern seiyu, so unless Doi reprises the role, I have no suggestions. How about you?

>How does Houquet know of the name "Legioss" anyways when she watched Stick use the one Jim gave him?

Adding onto my earlier suggestion about aircraft experience, it's possible she may have previously seen or even piloted a Legioss, perhaps wherever she acquired the Bartley. Again, she does state that she has experience with machinery when she begins piloting the Zeta Legioss.

Other than her history with a biker gang, much of her backstory is left unexplained. Perhaps they could delve deeper into that if they ever get the project off the ground.
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>>13664026

>>I'm not familiar with most modern seiyu, so unless Doi reprises the role, I have no suggestions. How about you?

Probably Mamiko Noto.
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>>13665233
>Rin
>Sister Esther Blanchett
>Seina Yamada's sister

Sounds like a good choice.

I will eventually get around to seeing Elfen Lied.
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>>13667369

Thanks

Also, I rewatched episode 5 today. I noticed that through dialogue and how his last words in the episode was "Yellow," would the promoter guy who was with Yellow throughout most of the episode be a soldier too who is in hiding from the Inbit and civilian collaborators?
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>>13669334
That is some good insight.

He already knows Yellow's true identity and intent. Who's to say he isn't a soldier as well? Yellow and the rest of the group would have neither known about nor been able to get to the HBT stockpile without an informant who could provide them necessary information.
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Desert episode was the best.
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Following our discussion of Mika Doi, I decided to rewatch DYRL.

It's understandable that Tatsunoko would hold her in such high regard.
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>>13654395
Southern Cross? Yeah.

http://bakabt.me/torrent/151623/super-dimensional-cavalry-southern-cross-h264-fqe
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>>13670682

Thanks for agreeing.

In regards to the Legioss, what jet fighter is it based on, since for Macross, Shoji Kawamori used the F-14 Tomcat as the inspiration for the VF-1 Valkyrie?
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>>13672684
I'd say it most closely resembles the F-15 Eagle, though I'd like to find a source indicating which jet fighter in particular Aramaki had in mind.
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>>13677281
why does it need to be based on anything real? That's Kawamori's bag, since he's an engineer.

I mean the Zeta waverider isn't based on any particular real-world craft, right?
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>>13677281

Hideki Kakinuma claims F-14. Here's the excerpt:

" think it was in 1994; the US military celebrated the 50th anniversary of D-Day by flying F-18’s painted with invasion stripes! But I was ahead of them at putting invasion stripes on a swept wing fighter by 10 years! (probably...) I think there was maybe a kit that came with stripes?"

Source: Hobby Japan Magazine 2007 issue.
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>>13677839

>>"I think it was in 1994; the US military celebrated the 50th anniversary of D-Day by flying F-18’s painted with invasion stripes! But I was ahead of them at putting invasion stripes on a swept wing fighter by 10 years! (probably...) I think there was maybe a kit that came with stripes?"

Fixed
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>>13677839

>>"I think it was in 1994; the US military celebrated the 50th anniversary of D-Day by flying F-18’s painted with invasion stripes! But I was ahead of them at putting invasion stripes on a swept wing fighter by 10 years! (probably...) I think there was maybe a kit that came with stripes?"

Fixed
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>>13677839
>>13677843
>>13677853
>claims F-14
>flying F-18's
>1994

I read that same quote as well, and there's clearly no mention of the F-14. Kakinuma was referring to the use of Allied Invasion stripes on the original 1983 design a decade before the F-18's bore the stripes in 1994.

>>13677594
>since he's an engineer

So is Aramaki and several other notable designers. Unlike the Valkyrie or Legioss which both clearly resemble real-world jet fighters, the waverider is an originally-conceived fictional design which bears no resemblance to any real-world aircraft or spacecraft.
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>>13681238

Re-reading the Gears Online page on the Eta Legioss (http://www.gearsonline.net/series/mospeada/mecha/human-mecha/legioss/eta.html), and I apologize for misreading it. It is based on the F-18.

Also, I re-watched episode 7 today. Any reason why Jim didn't keep that gun he got from the villagers?
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>>13682121
>http://www.gearsonline.net/series/mospeada/mecha/human-mecha/legioss/eta.html

I suppose it does look like an F-18A, though that particular quote doesn't state it as clearly for Aramaki's original '83-84 design as it does Kakinuma's 2007 redesign.

>>13574474 probably does confirm this.
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>>13682121
>Any reason why Jim didn't keep that gun he got from the villagers?

While we never see it again beyond that episode, it's never confirmed whether or not he still has it. Just as well, he loads the jeep with other weaponry later on.
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>>13685291
From my point of view, old Legioss looks like some kind of mix between F-18 and MiG-29. Sort of "generic light jet fighter". But it is an author who decides.
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>>13685291
>>13685337

Thanks

Also, I get that its color scheme was to match Houquet's, but can men use Bartleys? Likewiese with women with MOSPEADAs and Blowsperiors?
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>>13685460
>The Bartley appears to be a ride-armor designed for female soldiers. Genesis Climber Mospeada never shows a woman using ride-armor other than the Bartley and we never see a man using a Bartley.

-Gears Online page on the VR-038L Bartley

>Due to the limited numbers of females serving on the front lines, Bartley are only as common as the more expensive Blowsuperior.

-The Ultimate Mospeada Home Page, VR-38LT BARTLEY Ride Armor

>The Bartley can use any of the other forearm plate weapons developed for the other Ride Armors, but it's common to see it using the RL-6.

As Shinobu's VR-038A demostrates, this can include a video camera.
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>>13687541

Thanks

In regards to transforming motorcycles, how to use the weapons when in Ride Mode? Likewise with the Blowsperior's GR-103 shoulder-mounted missile launchers and MOSPEADA-F's GR-97 dual 45mm x 260mm missile tubes in Armor Mode.

Also, I re-watched Episode 8: Jonathan's Elegy. Two things:

1. Given that in Stick's flashback about Jonathan Wolf's accomplishment, one of which mentions fighting pirates in Saturn, would that mean, prior to the Inbit conquering Earth, humanity was already establishing colonies in other planets aside from Mars?

2. Anyone agree the ending for the episode was a depressing one?
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>>13690039
>how to use the weapons when in Ride Mode?

The armor is operated through sensory feedback. When Stick uses the VR-052F's forearm missiles, he focuses on the target to activate the scope, aligns his arm with his sight to aim, and fires.
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>>13691976
This appears similar to how Yellow operates the Blowsuperior's missile launchers.
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>>13690039
>would that mean, prior to the Inbit conquering Earth, humanity was already establishing colonies in other planets aside from Mars?

Yes. If you haven't gotten there yet or simply don't remember, you'll find that out later in the show (pic related).
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>>13690039
>Anyone agree the ending for the episode was a depressing one?

All the people blissfully carrying on with their lives makes it appear even more foreboding.
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>>13691969
>>13692019
>>13692195

Thanks

A little off-topic, but what does anyone think of my attempts to make MOSPEADA-esque Powered Armor. See links:

https://desustorage.org/m/thread/13678682/#q13678682

https://desustorage.org/m/thread/13678682/#q13682100
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So, is thread dead?
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>>13698256
Not yet, or at least not until we reach the image limit.

>>13693724
What is that material you are working with?
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>>13698307

>>Not yet, or at least not until we reach the image limit.

Thanks

>>What is that material you are working with?

Clay
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>>13693724
>if I were to apply a transformation sequence based on pic, what should be made first?

I think the best way to figure that would be to look at, if possible even acquire, one of the transforming toys. You could examine the plastic parts and how they fit and fold together.
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>>13702691

Thanks

Found this at g.e-hentai's Non-H section. It's supposed to be a side story, but does it offer anything juicy about MOSPEADA's lore:

http://g.e-hentai.org/g/719509/b9ab9621da/
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>>13702893
Unfortunately I cannot read Japanese so I'm not entirely certain what the context is. If I had to guess based on the artwork though, it appears to give a glimpse into military life on Mars Base. The desert environment does seem to indicate the Martian landscape.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVGtjP0AcG4
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>>13558378

There's some awesome fan art on PIXIV
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>>13706840

From what I found so far in that book, two things:

1. It's the United Nations that the humans are actually called, ala Macross.

2. There's a New Hong Kong (hilariously romanized as "Cong") on Mars.
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>>13707116
Indeed there is.
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>>13711011
His account was unexpectedly deleted a few months ago.
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>>13711026
It's a shame because his work was pretty good.
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>>13710966
There's actually more lewd images there than sad panda.
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Gone through nine episodes, and I have these questions:

1. Episode 10 begins with three Eagers and two Grabs dropping the egg that has Aisha in it. Where exactly were they to take Aisha, and why?

2. In Episode 12, an Inbit's life force is basically a green egg of sorts loaded into a Grab. Does the color depend on the form (Eager, Grab, Gamo), or do all forms use the same color?

3. Two things from Episode 14:

a. Prior to turning that Grab into a Gamo, Refless asked if it wanted to do, with the Grab saying yes. Given that the names "Grab", "Eager", and "Gamo" were used, how do the main characters know those names, since they use them?

b. After leaving Mint to enjoy her newly wedded life with Machuda, Stick and chums see the Grab-turned-Gamo leave the Inbit fort. Given that a Gamo was also chasing them back in Episode 13, why didn't they recognize it?

4. Would Noriko Ohara as Refless' usage of "nanji", an archaic version of "you" in Japanese whenn addressing the two Gamos she turned into Battlar and Solzie be a reference to the term "Kikou Souseiki (Armored Genesis Book)"?

5. While their journey was charted so far back in Episode 14, where would Stick and chums have been in Episode 17, given that they were in the Carribean in the previous episode, and going to what appeared to be Texas in the next episode?
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>>13711537
I'll answer these gradually.

>1. Episode 10 begins with three Eagers and two Grabs dropping the egg that has Aisha in it. Where exactly were they to take Aisha, and why?

It doesn't seem as though they were going anywhere in particular other than to plant the egg somewhere where the humans could find it. It does seem like they were looking for it later on, but once they figured out what became of it, they began observing Aisha from a distance.

>2. In Episode 12, an Inbit's life force is basically a green egg of sorts loaded into a Grab. Does the color depend on the form (Eager, Grab, Gamo), or do all forms use the same color?

As you can see in >>13626092, all Inbit start off as the same biological bug-like creatures before they are fused with their bio-mechanical bodies. If you'll recall the transformation in Episode 14, the egg stays the same green color all throughout the process. The only instance of an egg appearing a different color throughout the show is the pink one that was carrying Aisha, though that may have been because of her humanoid form.
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>>13711537
>a. Prior to turning that Grab into a Gamo, Refless asked if it wanted to do, with the Grab saying yes. Given that the names "Grab", "Eager", and "Gamo" were used, how do the main characters know those names, since they use them?

Protect Inbit probably passed that information onto humans during some instances of communication.

>b. After leaving Mint to enjoy her newly wedded life with Machuda, Stick and chums see the Grab-turned-Gamo leave the Inbit fort. Given that a Gamo was also chasing them back in Episode 13, why didn't they recognize it?

They probably didn't get a good look at it while they were hiding in the cave. The only one who got a clear view of it was Mint and of course she wasn't with them when they saw the second Garmo.
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>>13711537
>4. Would Noriko Ohara as Refless' usage of "nanji", an archaic version of "you" in Japanese whenn addressing the two Gamos she turned into Battlar and Solzie be a reference to the term "Kikou Souseiki (Armored Genesis Book)"?

A quick search indicates it's similar to "thou." I'm not really sure of the context here. I imagine all the Inbit who learned human speech would use contemporary words consistent with the time of their occupation, that being the mid to late 21st century.

>5. While their journey was charted so far back in Episode 14, where would Stick and chums have been in Episode 17, given that they were in the Carribean in the previous episode, and going to what appeared to be Texas in the next episode?

According to the map, they would have been in Central Mexico, most likely the Sierra Madre Oriental.
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>>13713211
>>13713249
>>13713359

1-4. Thanks

5. Given that Stick and chums went to New York City in Episode 22, why is there no dot in the actual location of the Big Apple?
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>>13714541
>tfw dot actually in Vermont

Whoever drew this map obviously didn't know where NYC was located.
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>>13714705

Agreed.

Finished re-watching episodes 19-20. Two questions:

1. In Episode 19, the city Stick and chums find underneath the mountain trail they were traveling on a city. How exactly does an entire city get buried under a mountain range?

2. In Episode 20, we are treated to Mint's backstory, where she originally had parents, yet, when we first she her in Episode 2, she was into looking for a guy to marry. Would the plot hole with her backstory be proof the show got rushed due to low ratings?
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>>13714809
>1. In Episode 19, the city Stick and chums find underneath the mountain trail they were traveling on a city. How exactly does an entire city get buried under a mountain range?

Had it been a glacier, it would have taken more than just a couple decades for an entire city to be buried under the ice. It's more likely that it was deliberately built underneath the mountain as part of the heat generator's experimentation.

>2. In Episode 20, we are treated to Mint's backstory, where she originally had parents, yet, when we first she her in Episode 2, she was into looking for a guy to marry. Would the plot hole with her backstory be proof the show got rushed due to low ratings?

What plot hole? You'll recall in Episode 2 when Mint was asked about her parents, her demeanor suddenly became somber. When you take that into context, it makes sense why she would throw herself at every guy she meets; she doesn't want to live life alone.

If anything, the UNDERSTANDING conclusion is an indication of anxiety over ratings at the time.
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>>13716028

1. Thanks

2. The problem with Mint's backstory is that, all we were told is that, her birthdays were lonely because her parents overworked, and while her parents getting killed is a reasonable guess, how did Mint end up a wandering gold digger?

Also, in pic, would the wrecked fighter on the right be an AF-6DF Vulture?
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>>13716087
>how did Mint end up a wandering gold digger?

As an orphan, she had no where to go and no one to turn to, hence why she became quick to find a guy she could mooch off of. It's also why she was so upset when everyone in the group almost went their separate ways.

>AF-6DF Vulture?

Indeed. It's amazing that Gears doesn't have a page for it.
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>>13719502

Thanks

Re-finished Episode 21. Two things:

1. Do you agree with MAHQ's Chris that the Inbit were able to make Aisha, Battlar, and Solzie after experimenting on Rainy Boy?

2. How exactly were the soldiers Stick and company ran into because of Rainy Boy's soldier hunts able to hide in a village? IIRC, wouldn't soldiers like them be lynched just to appease the Inbit?
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>>13719708
>1. Do you agree with MAHQ's Chris that the Inbit were able to make Aisha, Battlar, and Solzie after experimenting on Rainy Boy?

They probably learned quite a bit about human anatomy experimenting on him and possibly countless others during their time on Earth.

>2. How exactly were the soldiers Stick and company ran into because of Rainy Boy's soldier hunts able to hide in a village? IIRC, wouldn't soldiers like them be lynched just to appease the Inbit?

The villagers probably condoned Rainy Boy killing every soldier who arrived thinking that would satisfy the Inbit.
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>>13722754

1-22. Thanks

Finished the last four episodes yesterday. I got these questions:

1. Two things from Episode 22:

a. Much like that promoter guy in Episode 5, would Simone from episode 22 be a soldier too in hiding, given that he knows that Yellow is really a cross-dressing singer?

b. Were Stick, Jim, Aisha, and Houquet really hiding in New Jersey when they saw Battlar go nuts across New York City?

2. In Episode 23, Shinobu Takeuchi's camera had a Mars Base insignia in it. Why is that, since she's from Moon Base?

3. For the ones wielding the synchrotron cannons in Episode 24, if they're not Condors, what are they?

4. From Episode 25:

a. Given that he said in a transmission addressed to First and Second Liberation Front remnants back in Episode 18 that he is in charge of the Third Liberation Front, why wasn't Mienne Darjeeling himself commanding the fleet heading to Earth, or was his appearance axed due to rushing the show's conclusion?

b. When finally making it to Refless' chamber, Jim was in a Ride Suit in the previous episode, yet took it off in this one. Why is that?

c. Like with why Mienne Darjeeling didn't show up, would there have been a reason there are still humanized Inbit on Earth, as Aisha noted while watching Stick return to Mars, yet it was not mentioned since the ending got rushed?
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>>13723038

>>1-2. Thanks

Fixed
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>>13723038
I'll be answering these piecemeal again.

>a. Much like that promoter guy in Episode 5, would Simone from episode 22 be a soldier too in hiding, given that he knows that Yellow is really a cross-dressing singer?

I doubt it. He just seems to know that Yellow is really a crossdresser. As for knowing Yellow's identity as a soldier, it's not clear whether or not he's already aware of this before meeting Yellow in person.

>b. Were Stick, Jim, Aisha, and Houquet really hiding in New Jersey when they saw Battlar go nuts across New York City?

If they were watching the entire city, including the boroughs of Queens and Brooklyn, being attacked, they would have to have been in either Jersey City or Hoboken, or rather in whatever was left given that this Inbit attack didn't bother with the surrounding areas.

>2. In Episode 23, Shinobu Takeuchi's camera had a Mars Base insignia in it. Why is that, since she's from Moon Base?

The camera, like a lot of the military equipment sent to Moon Base, was manufactured in Mars Base.
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>>13726718

1a. But if Simone would only know that Yellow is a crossdresser, that would mean he's from South America who just happened to move to New York City.

1b. But wasn't Battlar's rampage only in Manhattan?

2. Thanks
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>>13723038
>3. For the ones wielding the synchrotron cannons in Episode 24, if they're not Condors, what are they?

Dark Legiosses.

>a. Given that he said in a transmission addressed to First and Second Liberation Front remnants back in Episode 18 that he is in charge of the Third Liberation Front, why wasn't Mienne Darjeeling himself commanding the fleet heading to Earth, or was his appearance axed due to rushing the show's conclusion?

The latter reason sounds like the most probable. It's too bad they never clarified that. I myself can imagine a scenario where he was relieved of duty because he was unwilling to use the Anubis-1 missiles.

>b. When finally making it to Refless' chamber, Jim was in a Ride Suit in the previous episode, yet took it off in this one. Why is that?

I can imagine this being the result of inconsistent animation. The animators likely had to rush through some scenes due to the sooner-than-expected deadlines.

>c. Like with why Mienne Darjeeling didn't show up, would there have been a reason there are still humanized Inbit on Earth, as Aisha noted while watching Stick return to Mars, yet it was not mentioned since the ending got rushed?

As we saw with Solzie and Battlar, humanized Inbit developed free will. They likely chose to stay on Earth rather than leave with Refless and all the less-evolved, hive-mind Inbit.
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>>13727223
>1a

That or Yellow's celebrity may very well have spread beyond South America by underground hearsay.

>1b

Given that Battlar said he wanted to kill all the humans in the city, that would have included those outside of Manhattan.
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>>13729502

3. How on Earth would the Second Liberation Front remnants have gotten a hold them?

4. Thanks

Also, forgive me for asking this, but what about my replies on >>13727223?
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>>13729557

Sorry about what I said on >>13729620.

1a. Thanks

1b. But my question is, where were Stick and the others as they were watching Battlar burn Manhattan?
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>>13729620
>3. How on Earth would the Second Liberation Front remnants have gotten a hold them?

They could have arrived with an advance force like the one Shinobu was with.

>>13729628
>1b. But my question is, where were Stick and the others as they were watching Battlar burn Manhattan?

According to Chris at MAHQ, they were indeed in New Jersey. It's implied during the episode they are outside the city but still within viewing distance of Manhattan. Considering the Hudson River seems like it would leave a safe enough distance between them and the Inbit assault, NJ was most likely their safe zone.
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>>13729730

1a. Thanks

2. Judging by the fauna watching Yellow in Love, Live, Alive's ending, would the OVA have taken place in North America?

3. Thanks
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>>13729989
Apparently he and Solzie decided to stay in North America while everyone else returned to either South America or Mars upon the show's conclusion.

>1a. Thanks
>3. Thanks

You are very welcome. All these questions have been helpful in looking into a lot of the minor details I had previously overlooked.
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>>13730696

Another thing about Love, Live, Alive: Given that Stick was in his Mars Base uniform when he, Aisha, Ray, Houquet, Mint, and Jim showed up after the concert, how was he able to return to Earth? Ordered to assist with reconstruction or left the UN military (calling them that based on pic in >>13707486), and kept the uniform for some reason?
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>>13730983
>Ordered to assist with reconstruction

I can believe that. His experience on Earth made him valuable in the aid and restoration of human society. Given his commitment as a soldier, it's not likely he would have left the military so soon.

I can also imagine him getting in contact with everyone else, Aisha in particular, as soon as he was on leave, hence why he would still be in uniform.
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>>13735594

Thank you for listening to my questions.

Forgive me for asking this, but because this thread won't last forever, I want to talk to you some more. Where else can I do so?
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>>13735955
We can either start a new thread or just continue in the 70s & 80s thread as we were initially doing.

>>13690998
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>>13739057

I meant more like e-mail address, because there are documents I want to send you, relating to what I asked in the links in >>13693724.
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>>13739331
Do you have an account somewhere else? We can get in contact there.
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>>13740178

Don't you?

As for me, I have an email address, which is [email protected]. I also have a TV Tropes account.
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