>mfw everyone is still too dumb to understand G-Reco

Huh. I just realized I forgot to watch the last two or three episodes of this. Just plain forgot, didn't intentionally avoid it or anything. I didn't forget about any of the other shows I'm watching.

I guess I subconsciously dropped it because it was boring.

>>12111059
>I guess I subconsciously dropped it because I have the attention span of a goldfish and cannot enjoy shows where things are not blowing up every few seconds.

Fixed. Maybe you should go watch A/Z or something, seems more up your alley.

>>12111220
Your mom.

>>12111228
The people on this board who hate G-Reco are 11 years old? Yeah, that's what I thought.

>>12111220
Chuchumy did nothing wrong

>>12111247
Stick with A/Z.

>>12111273
Stick with The Little Engine That Could, whiny little baby. No milk for you.

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>>12111265
Chuchumy is a koi, retard.

Hide troll threads
Report troll posters
Ignore the trolls, they will not lead you to enlightenment but delivereth thee unto depravity

>>12111292
Ahh, good memories of a great character from a great show.

>>12111030
>mfw people are still shitposting about G-Reco instead of sticking to A/Z s2

>>12111301
I hope you're being sarcastic

>>12111317
The hell is that?

>>12111289
Stick with TTGL.

>>12111302
>yfw people gave up about posting on A.Z S2

>>12111302
>mfw there are people who unironically enjoy shit cgi monster of the week

i thought that people would have learned after AO, but i guess the SHIT taste prevails

>>12111353
>goo goo gaa gaa MOMMY HELP

>>12111376
If you really think that is the actual reason for the combat (and on top of that you even go so far as to suggest it is the ONLY reason), and that it is somehow forced, you are even dumber than the usual G-Reco hater.

>>12111483
Um, Aldnoah doesn't really do monster of the week in S2. Yeah, there was one fight that people describe that way, but considering it was the only one the season has had, you can't really call that monster of the week. It was just a fight.

>>12111483
Now, how would you know what shit tastes like?

>>12111495
The true reason is that you're watching a toy commercials and the toys need advertising, thus the combats.

>>12111540
But G-Reco has had episodes like that too.

>>12111556
That has never been the main point of a Gundam show. Other mecha anime, yes, but not Gundam.

>>12111483
Slaine becomes wish fulfillment villain >>> moon/venus sent out another colorful toy we have to beamspam this week

>>12112297
1) Whose wish?
2) That's not what has been happening in G-Reco at all.

God, /m/ will troll every fucking show. Is it that hard to just watch and enjoy the ones you enjoy? Even if your standards are unreasonably high, none of them are unwatchably bad.

>>12112426
They spent 10 episodes on and earth island, for no reason, than another 3/4 episodes going to the moon. Reco hss really shit pacing where nothing happens for long periods of time.

>>12112433
Then you haven't been paying attention because there has been a good reason for everything and right now we're nearing a conclusion that they've been working steadily towards for the whole series. It's only bad pacing if you're an idiot.

Damn. I've got to marathon the last 15 episodes over the next week. Otherwise, I'll be my own personal laughingstock.

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>>12112470
>must not admit any flaws or everyone will call ME an idiot

>>12112503
Well, you ARE an idiot if you think G-Reco has any flaws.

>>12112499
Why do you even post in G-Reco threads if you aren't watching it? Get out of here.

>>12112297
>defending A/Z
Guys, it backfired. We told them so much to stick to A/Z that now they're defending it!

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>>12111292
Just like the rest of the catalog

>>12112613
What?

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>>12112552
Jesus fuck, bro. I like the show too, but...
>"IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY FLAWS! YOU'RE STUPID"

What are you, 8? Every Gundam, fuck, every piece of art/entertainment medium on the goddamn planet has its flaws. Stop being such a fucking sperglord.

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>>12112691
He's shitposting is what he's doing.

Stop falling for the bait.

>>12112703
These days, it's impossible to tell just how serious a retard is being. Are they being retarded to be funny? Or are they being retarded completely by accident?

In the end it doesn't matter, because both former and latter are still retarded.

>>12112470
How did the island episodes contribute to the civil war between G-IT Corp and Rosario Ten Police? Or is the America conflict settled and that's why we're in a new plotline? Or will it all come together at the end?

>>12112716
The trick is not to go out of your way to draw attention to things that the other retards will sperg out about, which just furthers the cause of making actual discussion in any form impossible to find beneath the ocean of pejoratives and 'don't like dont watch' counter-arguments that infest any thread that involves anything currently running.

>>12112734
Ignoring that guy's insistence that there's a great sweeping plot where every scene is relevant to the events of the series' end (which is rarely the case in anything longer than a film, and certainly not the case in this show), G-Reco is pretty much a road movie. The plot is the characters traveling around and learning new things and developing as people. In fantasy settings, the plot of this sort of story is very much about exploring and establishing the world.

>>12112574
He's trying to troll both shows like a fucking idiot, you fucking idiot.

>>12112691
I like how respecting one of the few examples of perfection in this world somehow means I'm slightly older than you. For your information, I am 24 years old and I hold a college degree.

>>12112780
>The plot is the characters traveling around and learning new things and developing as people. In fantasy settings, the plot of this sort of story is very much about exploring and establishing the world.
Okay that makes sense.

>>12112803
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9pePpxU58M

How you guys ever heard of "The Emperor's New Clothes"?

>>12112890
Yeah, it's the one where he turns into a llama and befriends John Goodman, and eventually he realizes the value of family. There's also a guy who can talk to squirrels.

>>12112934
no, the one where they were told a show was going to be good but really wasn't but pretend it is to save face and look smart.

>>12112691
>What are you, 8? Every Gundam, fuck, every piece of art/entertainment medium on the goddamn planet has its flaws. Stop being such a fucking sperglord.
No, he's a false flag

>>12112960
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>12112980
Do people really have this much trouble accepting that G-Reco is actually good?

>>12112691
>What are you, 8? Every Gundam, fuck, every piece of art/entertainment medium on the goddamn planet has its flaws. Stop being such a fucking sperglord.
But G-Reco doesn't
It's literally perfect and easily the best written show of the decade.
But you're just too stupid to get it, I suggest sticking to A/Z and Build Babbies

>>12111030
The only thing I don't understand is why Venus Globe looks like that

>>12112993
Good =/= flawless.

>>12112993
Good =/= flawless.

I have a lot of criticisms of reco's flaws, but I'm glad when people can answer them reasonably >>12112780 or justify them, instead of you're just too stupid or hate fun.

>>12111030
Rayhuntans are basically Deikuns in RC.

I have a hunch that we might get sequel movie named "Belleri's counterattack".

Is this just Ironic shitposting?
I remeber when G-Reco first came out it was like the JoJo anime for /a/ where the first half was really chill but second half was awesome but right now it's in reverse and mostly everyone is shitposting.
How do we stop this guys? I just want a discussion without people doing this.

>>12111030
But there isn't anything to understand.

>>12113046
Hating fun is pretty stupid, to be fair.

But on a serious note, I don't get how you people keep falling for the trolls. There are plenty of people who can patiently explain what makes G-Reco so good, but people act like the trolls that say "you're too stupid to understand the show" and "go watch Aldnoah instead" are the G-Reco fanbase. They're not. They're just stupid fucking trolls. I mean, surely this can't be the first time you've dealt with them? Yet people are just getting blown away by it.

>>12113213
People just shitpost more and more with every new show. They've gotten a good idea of what's effective after practicing for a while so now it just never stops, and people never stop responding to them.

>>12112798

Hint: degrees from online colleges mean precisely dick.

>>12113729
Hint: kill yourself

>>12113213
>How do we stop this guys?
By sticking to A/Z

>>12113748

Hint: go back to A/Z.

>>12111059

This, pretty much.

Turn A managed to keep my attention a lot easier despite being even slower-paced. G-reco I would just keep forgetting exists if not for you faggots raging about it constantly.

>>12113729
That's a stupid assumption, but I suppose it's not surprising that a middle schooler without a degree would say something stupid. I graduated from an esteemed university, ceremony and all.

>>12113790
Perhaps that's because Turn A was done when you watched it and G-Reco is not. I'm sure you'd have no trouble sitting down and watching the whole thing if all the episodes were out.

>make anime specifically for children
>make is so convoluted and hard to follow than not even adults can understand it
What was Tomino thinking?

>>12112934
underrated post

>>12111030
chuchumy!

>>12114176
G-Reco is deconstruction mecha anime. It is too advanced in this generation.

Also is there any kind of pastebin from /m/ about G-Reco summary? I remembered that there is one exist a while ago.

>>12114196
>deconstruction
There's that word again
Pastebin is in the Greco generals

I have a question for the people posting "back to A/Z".

Are you just doing it ironically or as a parody at this point? It's become so stereotypical that I'm sure you'd have to have the awareness of a three year old to not realize how you looked. It's basically become something along the lines of shouting Freebird to be played at a concert.

>>12111030
>Waaaa Evafags are so shit they overanalyze stupid things like if their mediocre show was deep at all and it was a masterpiece
>Waaaa if you don't like G-reco you're dumb, you don't understand Tomino

>>12114221
It is truth. A/Z is an easy to understand anime for gaijin and everyone. Pretty much entry level to anime viewer.
Everywhere you go you will see that many people didn't understand G-Reco story/plot because lack of attention. Just go to those mahq, mechatalk or general facebook or somewhere else and you can see them.

So isn't it better that we let people go back to their easy way of life?

>>12114237
A fedora materialized on my head as I read this post. Thank you anon, I always wanted my own poop hat.

>>12114221
>He doesn't understand what back to A/Z means
You really should stick to A/Z fag

>>12114237
I feel sorry for you if you're actually serious. A/Z is shit, but if you spout shit like this without realizing how you look in an argument, you're probably autistic. You've become a literal meme and you don't even realize it.

>>12114245
>>12114254
Nothing wrong with what he said. All you need to do is go back to A/Z.

>>12114245
>>12114254
>Get's called out on bullshit
>Le epic memes friend

>>12114247
>>12114265
Please don't be serious.

I refuse to believe that you lack this much self awareness.

>>12114271
What anon? All you need to do is to embrace your inner A/Z, then you will be complete.

I will make it simple for you. /m/ is a nice place where we guide the babbyys to spoonfeed themself with some A/Z porridge because if babbyys like you eat G-Reco, your babbyys teeth will fall off because it is hard.

Thus please stick to A/Z.

>>12111059
This is a typical 3rd world viewer of G-Reco. All they spout is
>I don't understand any of it.
>Therefore it is boring with no plot and no characterization.

>>12114271
Just take a deep breath and go back to A/Z don't stress yourself over this

>>12114271
stick to a/z fucking faggot.

is that better?

>>12114305
>>12114316
>>12114329
>87 replies, 33 posters
Stay salty, my friend.
:^)

>>12114377
>Got told.
>I can't give any counterargument, so I will use epic salty meme.
Such is the life of A/Zfag. The only things you did right is you finally embrace your inner A/Z.

>>12114390
The sodium chloride in this post alone could have supplied White Base for a month

>>12114377
well memed friendo

>understand
>gundam

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>>12114404
>implying Gundam at it's core isn't about understanding

>>12114416
>implying anyone on /m/ can UNDERSTAND gundam

>>12114430
What the fuck did you expect

>>12114430
get the fuck out then

>>12114430
Just ignore the one shitposter and the G-Reco discussions are okay.

>>12114430
This board is actually one of the best on the 4chins

Is A.Z the VVV of 2015?

>>12114176
>>make is so convoluted and hard to follow than not even adults can understand it
>Tomino: I have it on very good authority that elementary schoolchildren can understand it quite well, so perhaps you adults can try harder too.

American adults confirmed for dumber than the average Japanese kid.

>>12114501
No, because unlike VVV, AZ has more or less died off here on /m/.

Even after new episode AZ doesn't really get talked about much here, compared to how much it got talked about last year.

Most of the AZ mentions are brief meme-like references to how bad it is.

>>12114518
VVV has truly been the most relevant /m/-anime of the last decade!

>>12114430
Seriously. Such anger on both sides.

>>12111030
Marathoning last 5 episodes made me realize the problem people have with GReco. It's that there are no throwaway lines in dialogue. So if you missed one, you lost precious bit of information. And then this shit's snowballing and eventually you're fucked because you don't understand what the hell is going on. That leads to frustration and negative feelings towards the show itself.

I find it funny that the main thread has not one, but two mega tl;dr pastebins in the OP, because apparently not even people watching the show know what's going on.

>>12112734
They showed the strife on earth caused by the energy rationing and tech restrictions. Then we went to space and saw the shit caused by immigration restrictions on top of that, and now we're at the top and have seen the rot's set in there too and was about to lead to the extermination of most of the known human race. Presumably the Earthies and Moonies were using their conflicts as cover for building up invasions forces to take Venus, so we'll get a get a nice climactic orgy of destruction after which everyone group hugs and agrees to work together. Course, it is the nips we're talking about here so I also wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the moral turns out to be 'don't fight the system' and they go back to the fucked up status quo.

>>12114703
There are plenty of throwaway lines of dialogue (for the hundredth time, I know how the goddamn contact link works, Tomino) but, yes, there's important bits of information that makes the character's actions marginally less retarded that is mentioned off-hand exactly once several episodes before it's relevant and never brought up again.

>>12114505
You've never had a little brother, have you Anon? Kidnap someone else's, sit them down in front of one of your Chinese cartoons and ask them if they understand it. They always say 'yes' and their explanations of what's happening are fucking hilarious.

>>12113331
Here's the thing: I can understand why people might like G-Reco in spite of its flaws but this far in anyone ignoring its horrible execution and proclaiming it the second coming of Christ is the biggest fucking troll ever and the ones responsible for these threads descending into shitposting.

>Search for "A/Z"
>only 24 matches
Wow you faggots really mellowed out

>>12114846
>There are plenty of throwaway lines of dialogue
Let's just say, infinitely less than in your average anime series. I just feel like there is no breathing room, Tomino wants me to pay attention 100% of the time. It's unusual for anime and kinda cool.

>>12112691
BUT I CAN'T GIVE IT 10/10 IF IT"S NOT FLAWLESS

>>12114902
It is 20/10 though

>>12114505
>implying kids even get up to watch a show that late

You're lying if you think any kids watch this. And so is Tomino.

Dickriding is not a form of transportation.

>>12114999
>implying the can't record it

Also G-Reco got a rerun at 19.

>>12114722
speak for yourself newfag.
the pastebin has interviews from before it aired and pre-production stuff. this is common sense.

this is why the taboo was put in place. To protect people from their own ignorance. Your shitposting just proves Tomino right and you don't even realize it.

>>12114456
Now that's some delusion

Wow, /m/ really is the easiest board to troll.

>>12115234
>Butthurt A/Zfan retorts.

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>>12112624

It's a great board, isn't it?

I like the show and it's style. I haven't been keeping up with it since episode 8 or 9.

So far it's pacing hasn't kept me interested week to week but I feel it'll be better to marathon through it. If turn A came out today I'd have the same problem, but having watched turn A in it's entirety I will say that it was quite a strong show. The pacing of G reco reminds me of Turn A and Zeta.

I'm not sure where this "dont understand it" meme comes from.

>>12118143
That meme came from every mecha related forum or discussion not /m/.

>>12118143
People have a hard time paying attention because they get bored by the plot being explained rather than shown. What you see happen is a more immersive experience than what is described to you, which is why television and film have this rule called "Show, don't tell" which Reco is ignoring.

It's not that the plot doesn't make sense, it's that the method of storytelling isn't engaging enough for a lot of people so their minds wander and they miss stuff that was only mentioned.once

I understood the plot, I just didn't like it so I dropped the show.

>>12118251
Uh, G-Reco is one of the few TV anime that actually properly makes use of the show don't tell rule. It's just that you're reading way into natural conversations for some reason and getting this nonsense out of them. Way to talk out of your ass just because you've never interacted with a human.

>>12118143
>I'm not sure where this "dont understand it" meme comes from.

It's not a meme when it's something that legitimately happens to people. It's embarrassing how badly people misunderstand the show just because they fail at paying attention. This happens with everything because people watch stuff but they don't want to actually think about it but then they go try and discuss it on forums anyway, but it hurts especially with G-Reco because the writing is multilayered so you NEED to be paying attention. So as a result the smart people are rightfully pissed off when people say some bullshit like "Bellri is weak-willed" but then the people complaining get overly defensive when this wouldn't have happened if they'd actually been PAYING ATTENTION.

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>>12119798
>G-Reco
>show, don't tell

>>12114999
Have you really not seen ANY of the data? G-Reco is more popular with kids than anyone else. But I suppose you prefer just making things up to suit your argument instead.

>>12119819
Your dumb meme image and complete lack of argument only proves me right, since it confirms that you don't know what "show, don't tell" actually means.

>>12114221
You're a complete fucking idiot. How is it that you're able to shitpost while being unable to recognize that the other people you're responding to are also just shitposting? Does it just come naturally to you?

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>>12119831
No, it's just that if you're so far up Tomino's ass you're defending wordswordswords as the only proper use of "show, don't tell" then I'm just going to laugh at you. Trying to explain would be pointless, because you've clearly already decided that anyone who doesn't agree with you must be monumentally stupid.

Have fun not realizing what an idiot you look like by acting like a faction-of-the-week giant robot cartoon is the vanguard of good writing.

>>12119798

>LOLmino
>Natural dialogue

You're not just delusional, you're full on retarded.

>>12119813

Your show doesn't suck because I couldn't pay attention to it.

Quite the contrary in fact, I think I paid more attention to it than your entire fanbase, that's why I can see that it's nowhere near as fun or engaging as you delusional fuckwits like to pretend.

>>12119868

Everything I saw felt forced, stiff, and borderline laughable.

G-Reco isn't a well written show, even by chinese robot cartoon standards.

>>12119893
>>12119868
>>12119890
stick to a/z then faggots. get mad

>>12119900

Get BTFO G-Recotard.

Your show wasted what little potential it had from the very start.

Deal with it.

>>12119904
your choice in a/z shows you wasted what little potential your life had from the very start.

deal with it.

>>12119904
Are you mad?
Why are you mad?
Are you mad at the world?
or Are you mad at your self?

G-Reco threads are the worst.

I guess the threads are proportional to how good/entertaining the show was. Sure 00 had its bad threads, but most people enjoyed it, even the shitposting part.

What is it with /m/ and this show? I think the show is okay. Boring at times, i guess, but not as bad as people claim it.

>>12119976
Why are you still here? Your words came from your ass because G-Reco thread > A/Z thread. You can go back to leddit, facebook mahq group, mechatalk, tumblr or anywhere else you want to diiscuss about your favourite anime A/Z.

>>12120029
W-what?

Nevermind. Thanks for proving my point.

/m/ must really hate Reco since every thread is filled with shitposting, drowning out any possibility for discussion.

>>12119896
>It's not well-written because I say so

What a great argument!

Do people legitimately think Reco is perfect? With other /m/ sacred cows, you're at least allowed to say you didn't like it without having ebin maymays spammed at you.

>>12120090
There are few people who say it's perfect and even fewer who just say they don't like it
Negative posts are always the "I-don't-get-it-so-it's-shit" kind or "This-is-boring-because-I-don't-like-it"

>>12111566

The main purpose of Gundam has always been and always will be to sell plastic model kits. Tomino's "message" is a far secondary.

>>12120090
I'm 15 eps in and I find it as linear as Seed Destiny

The only fanbase worse than recofags this season are ikuharafags wanking to how deep his animated CP is. Most retarded fanbase are shirobakofags for falling for gook propaganda though.

>>12111220
But things do blow up all the time in G Reco. G Reco has had only one episode where there hasn't been a battle.

>>12120109
>"This-is-boring-because-I-don't-like-it"
>not "I-don't-like-this-because-it-is-boring"

In one breath you say there are few who say it's perfect, then in the next you trivialize all criticism.

>>12120326
What criticism?

NIGGERS LMAO

>>12120326
And here we've got a perfect example of the second case
See? There are almost no people who legitemately criticise the show, and instead resort to shitpost
They say G-Reco has the worst fanbase, but all I see is the hatebase trying to give the show a bad name

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>mfw Greco fags being delusional as always
Nice to see that some things simply never change

>>12120437
What if I'm not trying to give the show a bad name?
What if I just want you to stop calling me a liar for saying the show bores me?

>>12120490
Greentext and a reaction image!? We got ourselves a prime debater here.

>>12120506
>What if I'm not trying to give the show a bad name?
>then in the next you trivialize all criticism.
Yeah, sure

>What if I just want you to stop calling me a liar for saying the show bores me?
But you didn't said

>This show is boring for me
you corrected my post saying this

>"I-don't-like-this-because-it-is-boring"
The former is an opinion, and the latter is treated like a fact

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>>12120554
Great counterargument bro

>>12120090
but the reasons for not liking it are total bullshit. Who's fault is it if you find it boring? It's called shit taste. You misinterpret the show and act like some know it all.
>>12118781
But it's just like U.C. and expanded on.
Photon Batteries = Helium 3 JEF
Megafauna = AEUG
So if you understood it then why wouldn't you like it? Is this the first time you faggots have watched a Tomino Gundam show? Right now your power level is below 5000.

moot really fucked up by not nuking this board before he left.

>>12120580
>whose fault is it
It's a mismatch between the writer's approach and the viewer's preferences, it's not anyone's fault. Stop acting like people have to debate you in order to earn the right to say they don't care for something.

No show will be appealing to absolutely everyone. Your insistence that anyone who finds it dull cannot grasp it is utterly myopic. The plot is very simple, but it is being delineated in a manner that deliberately deviates from the standard Gundam formula and that puts some people off. Tomino even told us before ep1 was even out that this would happen. You DARE go against Tomino's prediction that existing Gundam fans would find it unpalatable?!

>>12120644
stay butthurt f/a/ggot.
There's plenty of other boards that deserve nuking.

>>12120655
None more so than /m/, you guys are like Russians or BRs in DOTA. You can't help but ruin it for everyone else.

>>12120649
But that's the point if you are a Gundam fan then you should want something new. Because at this point you would realize that the franchise needs something different. The modern anime fan only likes moeshit fanservice waifu bullshit so it's a good thing if Tomino doesn't pander to the lowest common denominator. Rairaya is basically his answer to modern moeshit.

If the plot is so simple then why can't you faggots figure it out. Everything is a reference to U.C. because Tomino (with the help of Hajime Yatate) helped fucking create it in the first place.

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>>12120664
>DOTA
I'm sorry I don't play kusoge. So I don't get the reference. Maybe you need to elevate your tastes.

>>12120676
>if you're a Gundam fan you should want something different from Gundam
No, I like Gundam.
>why can't you figure it out
I didn't say I couldn't. I just said it's boring.
>Everything is a reference to UC because
You DO know that Tomino conceived of this as a whole new show and didn't want it to be a Gundam show, right? You DO know that he said he WASN'T making it for Gundam fans, right?

>>12120713
Yeah but the setting is future U.C. so of course it draws on U.C. info. Easy example is Minovsky Particles. So you can still notice that it's tied to the other series. Tomino is drawing references to U.C, while still being different and not rehashing the same Gundam formula.

>>12120686
I apologize, I forgot that you were from a third-world country so the only computer you have is a toaster.

>>12120738
>implying DOTA is even a resource hog
cool assumptions bro.
I wouldn't waste my GPU power on kusoge.

>>12120743
>my GPU
You can afford that with your $200/year wage?

>>12120746
Yep.
Can't you?

>>12120726
Let me try that again:
Referencing the UC stories is not the point of G-Reco. That is there because Sunrise said "LOL NO, you are going to make another Gundam, not some new no-name show".

Tomino did not want it to be a Gundam show, he even told us to show it to our kids instead of expecting to like it ourselves.

>and not rehashing thesame Gundam formula
And therein lies the impass. I, unlike you, am not bored with the Gundam formula. I would like the show better if it were less like Turn-A and more like evey other Gundam. Because I LIKE Gundam.

>>12120764
Of course. I have no idea what it is to be poor, though you seem to be an expert in that topic.

>>12120777
I like Gundam too. You should embrace change. Tomino only gives challenges to youths who are full of prospects.

Referencing U.C. is still there even though it's not the overall point of G-Reco. You can do both. It is afterall the future setting of U.C.

Like when the Wuxia debuted the army was bragging about how nimble the fingers are. I liked that because in a world of Mobile Suits of course a new manufacturing company would want to advertise the new features of their high performance MS. And the meta-"joke" from the outside is that the limbs of a mecha are always seen as useless anyways.

>>12120828
normally a drastic change just for the sake of being different would piss me off it came from someone else. But it's Tomino. He knows Gundam better than anybody.

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Time to update MAHQ with all the Reconguista info. It's been awhile since you've had to add something new.
Adding Unicorn was easy because it was just a bunch of Version Kas Katoki redesigns of already pre-existing suits.

>>12120828
>I like Gundam too
Sure but if I'm saying "I really like Gundam" and you're saying "I would like Gundam more if it chnged" then it's pretty clear that I like it more than you do.

But here's the point:
When Tomino deviated from the formula he veered toward your tastes, in doing so he veered away from mine. He knew this would happen, he told us this would happen. But neither you nor I are objectively right. Reco is simply closer to your tastes than to mine. There is no need for you to try and disprove the opinions of others in order to validate your own. When someone says they don't like something and you say that you do you are expressing an opinion. When someone says they don't like something and you say that their opinion is wrong you are being an asshat.

>>12120978
Hey dude this is the mecha board. I expect other anons to be interested in mecha anime. Tomino came out of retirement to direct a new Gundam series. You should be fucking grateful. And be glad that you get to see another Tomino series as it aired in your lifetime. Due to his past relationship with Sunrise I figured him coming back to Gundam would be impossible.
Instead we get a bunch of /v/ style bitching about the most mundane irrelevant things about the show.

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>>12120978
I sort of prefer Tomino's earlier more depressing stuff compared to happy Tomino stuff. It's been sort of downhill since F91. But Zeta was already perfection, you can't recapture or remake Zeta shot by shot frame by frame. Every good director needs to adapt and change. I didn't want Tomino's latter half of his career to be marred with shit like Garzey's Wing or blandness like Gainer. It's another chance for Tomino to go out with a blaze of glory.

>>12121019
Zeta was pretty average though. It failed to surpass 0079 in any way but animation quality, which means jack shit when the storyboarding and choreography is bland as fuck.

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>>12121045
cool story retard.
Maybe you should actually watch the show.
You need me to webm the whole thing for you?
Or can you download it on your own PC like a big boy?

>>12121058
This is thousand times better than choreography on A/Z or Seed Destiny.

>>12120997
Sorry, man, I'm not into that idol-worship stuff. I only care about whether or not I like the show, who made it is irrelevant. I don't discredit shows I actually liked for being mad by people who made another show I don't like, and I don't pretend to like shows I didn't enjoy just because they were made by the same director as a show I did like.
Each show is judged on its own, the fact that Tomino made it does not make it more entertaining to me.

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>>12121045
It surpassed 0079 by giving backstory and world building. That's why the U.C. setting is so vast today.
The backstory about the first space migration that started U.C. and Deikun's actual philosophy all happens in Zeta. No time for retards. You're full of shit.

>>12121075
Then don't act like you are a fan of the franchise then, if you don't know shit about the production history behind it.

>>12121101
They are the one who found G-Reco boring, what do you expect with their brain capacity?

>>12121110
I know the production history. I know about Tomino and Yas and that pseudonym used by various writers. I knowabout Tomino picking Imagawa for G. I...

This won't prove anything. The fact that I know what he accomplished before his happy-pills kicked in does not inspire me to pretend to like a show that I find boring just because same-director. Similarly, I don't discunt the other Gundam shows that he didn't direct. To clarify, I'm a Gundam fan, not just a Tomino fan. If the show isn't doing it for me, then who the director was amounts to precisely dick.

But I won't hold it against him and will give his next project a fair try also.

>>12121153
>blah blah blah all that shit taste
You wouldn't have to pretend to like anything if you got some good taste.

>>12121112
Not the same person.
I'm the guy who finds Reco boring and Zeta is in my top five anime of all time.
>>12121160
>taste is objective
Obvious troll is obvious.

>>12121185
Well Zeta is the most overrated piece of shit out there, so no wonder your taste is so awful.

>>12120743
>shitposting about a game you've never even played

Wow. What a sad life you live.

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>>12121198
>no wonder your taste is awful
Like I said, "I like Gundam."

>>12121224
No, you don't, or you'd like G-Reco, Turn A, and ZZ and then your taste would be considered good.

Dota is basically the same thing as G-Reco. If you hate it, it's because you're too dumb to understand it. Sad day when people complain about things simply because they're required to do a small amount of thinking.

>>12121101
>Deikun's actual philosophy all happens in Zeta
Are you kidding me? Char extensively talked about that in 0079.

>>12121234
I do like ZZ. The only Gundam I've actively disliked was Wing. When Wufei just pouted and went home after losing a fencing match instead of frying Trieze from inside his Gundam I almost drooped it. Turn-A and Reco aren't awful of confusing, just a bit dull with too much slice-of-life and Reco having so many factions that none of them will really be able to stand out and shine like Zeon, Axis, Zanscare, A-Laws, etc.

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>mfw UCfags are still riding Tomino's dick even though the best works UC related were the OVAs

>>12111059
>cannot enjoy shows where things are not blowing up every few seconds.

>>12120251
>G Reco has had only one episode where there hasn't been a battle.
That's neither a good or a bad thing. SEED had a lot of episodes without battles and it's a fucking awful show.

>>12121380
G-Reco has exciting battles literally every episode though. Turn A you have more of a point in that it is a less actiony Gundam, but slice of life isn't inherently dull, and it had a purpose. Similarly, the factions aren't meant to be memorable, G-Reco is written to be close to real life where every army's got their own bullshit agenda and none of it matters.

>>12121506
I don't even like UC, but even I can recognize that G-Reco is a masterpiece. Get destroyed, kid.

>>12121506
>8th
>0083
>Unicorn
>Endless Waltz
>Good

The only good Gundam OVA is 0080, which happens to be the best.

>>12111030
>tfw people still won't stick to A/Z

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>>12111030
>there are people who find G-Reco boring
these people have their souls weighted down by gravity

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>>12121553
Seed was actually good, Desinty became shit after kira got beat by Shinn. G-Reco story, characters among other things make it a great mecha show

>Mods hard at work

>>12121772
>8th
>not good
Holy fuck I can't believe someone has taste this bad

>>12121820
Was total garbage mate. Characters were bland and stupid. MS designs were shit (muh special snowflake gendems for MC and friends) Story was laughable. I don't remember the music at all. Animation was mediocre for something that had 13 episodes for 3 fucking years.

>>12111030
Neo-/m/ is real.

>>12121835
Tell me about it, just look at this guy right here >>12121833

>>12121835
You're damn right it is, there are even shitheads like >>12121820
who think 08th ms team at all resembles a good series.

>>12121763
Me too. In fact, I don't even like Gundam, I tried to watch a bunch of shows and they were all terrible. But man, G-Reco is just awesome. Everyone should watch it, even people who don't like Gundam, mecha or even anime in general. I'm going to recommend it to my dad. His favorite movie is The Godfather so I'm sure he'll enjoy G-Reco too.

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>>12121833
>MS designs were shit
>08th MS Team

>GM[E]
>GM[G]
>Ground Gundam and Ez8
>Ball Type K
>GM Sniper
>MP Guntank

>Gouf Custom
>Gouf Flight Type

>I don't actually know what suit designs appeared in 08th MS Team, I just remember that I hate Ground Gundams.

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Different anon here, but a question. If I like Gundam, and therefore am required to like all Gundam series regardless of shittiness, does that mean I have to enjoy SD Gundam Force? What about the pilot for the Doozy Bots?

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>>12121153
I understand what you're saying but you should make an exception for the original creator. Tomino's made a ton of mecha anime and has worked in the industry since Astro Boy. So it should be no shock surprise that there are people on the mecha board that like a guy that worked on a lot of mecha anime.

You can't expect him to come back with another remake of 0079 again. Sunrise owns the One Year War now. That's why you're getting an Origin prequel OVA with big budget fancy CGI and proto-Nu Char ver Ka. 2.0 with eye lasers.

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>>12121920
and you need to like G-Saviour.

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>>12120738
I live in space.
I'm not from any country.

>>12121920
>If I like Gundam, and therefore am required to like all Gundam series regardless of shittiness
What, there are tons of shit gundam series, F91, Turn A, Saviour, ZZ, Victory, 08th MS team

>>12121949
>you should make an exception
NO.
I will not lie and act like I'm enjoying something just because of who made it.

>>12121920
You just need to pretend to like garbage like G, G Saviour, F91, and SEED in order to fit in.

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>>12121835
Can't leave anything to the next generation yet. Not until newfags learn to be less of a disappointment.

>>12121984
I'm saying the exception should be not to watch it expecting a One Year War rehash. Especially because of who's making it. If you think about his career then there's no way you could be expecting or wanting another MSG again.

>>12121977
>F91, Turn A, ZZ, Victory
Stick to AZ.

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>mfw when I understand Reconguista in G.

Fucking kunt/a/la.

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>>12121989
... B-but not SEED destiny, right?

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>being an AUfag

>>12121275
Not the initial space migration stuff.
You get backstory on how U.C. and the whole prejudice started even before the Zabis. And there's a shit ton more. Moveable Frame, fucking Anaheim Electronics zaibatsu. So Zeta added a whole lot that's why it's a big deal. stay retarded.

>>12122067
Also, I don't know about how the OVA's handled it, but the Gundam Unicorn novels provided lots of background on the buildup-to Zeon becoming a power.

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>>12120978
sup mahq. You need any help with your HTML and Javascript for updating the site with Reconguista stuff? Don't forget the semi-colons. You should sign me up.

>>12122092
fuck Unicorn that shit was made after. You don't need Unicorn when Zeta tells you the same thing already. Unicorn is Fukai non canon fluff. I guess Unicorn invented psycoframe, linear seat and panoramic cockpits too.

>>12121207
Like I said faggot, I don't waste time on kusoge.
Learn to read. Maybe you should get turned into kuntala.

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>>12122110
>sup mahq

>>12121871
I know you're trying to make a sarcastic post, but I think someone who has good enough taste to enjoy The Godfather should in fact enjoy G-Reco, and G-Reco is well made enough that anyone could potentially enjoy it even if they don't enjoy those other things. It's just a good story for anyone. All they really need to know is what Minovsky particles are.

My father would probably be open-minded enough to enjoy it. It's a shame yours has a little shitlord for a kid, because he might too.

>>12121991
Your so-called "newfags" aren't a part of the next generation, they're still this generation. Way to insult your own kind, which, to be fair, deserves it.

The hopeful next generation doesn't even know what 4chan is yet. They're too busy enjoying G-Reco.

>>12122014
>leaving out 08th

YOU stick to A/Z.

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At this point the only thing G-Reco has going for it is the mech designs and the soundtrack.

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>>12122436
You should start a thread on /lit/ about G-Reco's quality writing.
Surely anyone with enugh taste to enjoy Charles Dickens, William Shakespeare, or Edmund Wells should love Reco.

If you're bored by G-Reco, you are a boring person.

>>12122464

Those are the best things about it, sure. Only a few Gundam have the story and characters as the highlights.

>>12122465
Right, because when I want to discuss good writing with someone, I go to a board full of shitposters who don't actually read any literature.

I'll have you know that I've already discussed G-Reco at length with a number of professors of literature. They, of course, know it's worth respecting. But I'm sure you never thought of that since you've never went outside of your mother's house.

>>12122465
Tomino's writing is far better than Dickens or Shakespeare so you're probably right. I don't know about Wells, never read anything from him.

>>12122308
>not Patrick Colasour

Fuck off.

>>12122478
Don't diss Shakespeare. His only weak point compared to Tomino is that his writing is mostly adaptations, but a lot of anime writers are like that. As a writer, his work is still excellent.

>>12122477
>I'll have you know that I've already discussed G-Reco at length with a number of professors of literature. They, of course, know it's worth respecting.
This shit is gold. Thanks, anon.

>>12122148
Dota is basically the same thing as G-Reco. If you hate it, it's because you're too dumb to understand it.

>>12121920
The reason you're required to like G-Reco is because it is objectively amazing.

>>12122485
Right, make fun. Doesn't change that Henry Louis Gates Jr. enjoys G-Reco. Compared to him, who the fuck are you?

>>12122502
The breadth and ambition of G-Reco are unrivaled. It's an astonishing display of writing, acting and storytelling that must be considered alongside the best literature and filmmaking in the modern era.

>>12122512
Stephen Hawking.

>>12122516
Yes, exactly, you snarky fuck. Give me some amusement, just what do you think are examples of "the best literature and filmmaking in the modern era"? This should be good.

>>12122490
But Reco is incredibly simple.
The status quo that exists due to Capital Tower's monopoly on photon batteries and ag-tech taboo creates inequity and stifles ambitious progress. The Megafauna crew is on a road trip to Venus Globe to see what's REALLY going on and why, while everyone and their cub scout troop try to steal G-Self.

>>12122522
I already gave you one, G-Reco.

>>12122520
Joke's on you, fucker, I know Hawking and he never posts on /m/ without a name. Most of us just call him dorkly. Not that literature is even his field anyway, so it's not like he's more qualified than Gates.

>>12122537
Read the post, idiot. I said other examples.

>>12122534
And yet people are still too dumb to understand it. Simple my ass. Bet this guy can't even handle Lina, imagine if you gave him Invoker. Dude wouldn't even finish a Dagon before getting wrecked. Hell, probably wouldn't even be able to find the secret shop.

>>12122549
Victory Gundam, CCA and Votoms.

>>12122549
Well there certainly are worse examples of literature. Jeb Bush wrote a book. But yeah, Reco's got nothing on Vonnegut, Twain, Chaucer, Wells, Verne, etc...

>>12122464
So you didn’t like. That's fine, but let me tell you why you're wrong.. Anyone who knows the series knows how meticulous and thought out it is. This is sophisticated television that assumes there is an intelligent audience for well-written, off-center, ambitious entertainment. Tomino has created a contemporary masterpiece.

Guys I don't want to break the kayfabe but I'm worried that some people here are taking this whole comparing G-Reco to classic literature talk seriously.

>>12122711
Maybe, maybe not. One thing I do know is that a lot of people end up thinking that old=good when that's not the case. Just because a work is aged and famous doesn't mean it's that good. What makes the fucking Mona Lisa so great anyways? The woman herself is ugly and has terrible fashion sense. The background is depressing and vague. Stuff like that.

However, G-reco is pretty much a kids show so anyone making those comparisons is gay

>>12122568
Okay, you pass.

>>12122587
Do you like these people just because they're well known or what? Just picking one example, Chaucer's writing is just a bunch of random nonsense that hardly even ties together. It's exactly what people complain about with G-Reco except it's actually valid in Chaucer's case.

>>12122885
>However, G-reco is pretty much a kids show so anyone making those comparisons is gay

Just because it's written for kids doesn't mean that it's stupid. That's just the popular perception and is why people write a lot of stupid things for kids. Not so with G-Reco, Tomino actually respects children.

>>12122711
Yeah, we know that you sarcastically shitposted earlier, but surprise motherfucker, it's actually the legitimate truth. This shit SHOULD be taken seriously because it is serious business.

>>12123060
Well it's just dumb to compare War & Peace or Huckleberry Finn and shit to this and use it as a bashing tool against G-reco

>/m/ has gone "Naruto is better than LOTR" level
I'm done, I'm out.

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>mfw this thread is still up
Holy shit well done, OP.

>>12122490
Or maybe it's basically a shit game by gaijins who don't know how to import all the good games from japan.

>>12123060
>Tomino actually respects children.

And yet - though, admittedly, not Tomino's decision - it airs at a time where barely any children are going to be watching it, and I'm fairly sure that those who are watching it have no idea of the 'grander scale' of the plot, in all honesty.

>>12123102
I think it's completely fair since I can say from experience that Huck Finn and G-Reco are on the same level. It's just that the people bashing it have no idea what they're talking about. It's true that if G-Reco were not so good, they would be complete idiots for doing it, but you have to give them some sort of handicap.

>>12124173
You don't know that. And, as has been said, it can be recorded or they can watch the re-airing. We don't live in the 90s anymore, people aren't forced to only watch a show at the exact moment it airs.

>>12124086
Man, how can we tell you to go back to A/Z when you're already there?

>>12124130
You must be daft. I doubt you even play video games, you're too busy shitposting on /m/. No wonder you're foolish enough to think Dota is anything short of splendid.

>>12124791
>You don't know that.

Okay. You're probably just having a whale of a time pulling legs, but I'm going to offer a little experiment. If you have a kid brother - no older than, I dunno, twelve, because that's the apparent age that Tomino is targeting because he doesn't trust teenagers and anyone above the age of 20 - or if you know someone who does and who likes cartoons, convince him to watch this, and then, without any outside interference, ask him to relay the events of the plot back to you.

It's a way to test your assumption that every kid who watches G-Reco knows exactly what is going on and doesn't just watch for the pretty colors and robot battles.

>>12124839
I have already done exactly this, long before your post, because I wanted to know the answer myself. He got it just right - and this is exactly why I can say what I'm saying with such conviction. It's not a difficult plot to follow at all, despite people's determination to shitpost about it. Sorry you don't have faith in the new generation, but they're a smarter one than us.

>>12124820
>implying non-Japanese shit can be good.
says the retard that can't import.

>>12127104
The only retard is you, for assuming that I don't. I must say, if you're going for a "laziest shitposter ever" award, you're well on your way to winning it.

>>12124872

I'm absolutely sure you did, on this forum, on the internet, where people can fabricate things at will that are lapped up like milk if they seem convincing.

>>12127311
Right, so it's okay for people to take >>12124839
at face value but I can't possibly have evidence to the contrary? Bullshit.

>>12120580
>So if you understood it then why wouldn't you like it?

Is it so hard to believe that a person who understands what is going on in a show wouldn't like it anyway? Can you not understand it's not the kind of show for me?

>Is this the first time you faggots have watched a Tomino Gundam show?

The only ones I haven't see all of the way through is ZZ and Turn A.

before you tell me to go back to A/Z, the only shows I'm still watching this season are JoJo and YuriKuma, so don't bother

>>12127395
Go back to Cross Ange because it's great and you're missing out, jerk.

>>12127395
>YuriKuma
A/Z is too good for you anyway.

>>12127487
Too deep for a pretentious kid like you, eh?

>>12127612

Don't put words in my mouth faggot. I watch it because i like Ikuhara shows.

also lesbians

>>12127395
The problem is that just about every person who doesn't understand about the show has some invalid complaints that are directly related to their misunderstanding. Some of them even insist they understand it when they don't. You're free to dislike it if you actually understand it, it's just that it's highly unlikely that you do. The numbers are against you, really.

>>12127616
What the fuck?

>>12127620
>You're free to dislike it if you actually understand it

I'm pretty sure I'd be free to even if I didn't, mr arbiter of opinions.

I don't even like Gundam, I come here for super robots

>>12127640
Why does everyone have to try to be cute when I say they're free to do something? No, you're not free to dislike it if you don't understand it, because the moment that comes out, people are going to shit all over you and you will completely deserve it. Stop assuming things about your freedoms because it only leads to you having less of them.

And Gundam IS super robots.

>>12127637

When >>12127612 replied to >>12127487, it cant easily be misconstrued by someone else as being the same person who wrote >>12127395.

Hence why I said don't put words in my mouth, because it's not my opinion that Yurikuma Arashi is deep. At least not yet, Ikuhara shows tend to get more complex halfway through.

>>12127661
>And Gundam IS super robots.

>no super mode
>can't make the machine get back up through pure willpower
>barely motw outside of the original show
>villain isn't a monster or alien and isn't umambiguously evil

only G is sorta like one. Would you have felt better if I said Hero instead of Military?

>>12127663
Oh. Yeah, I was hoping to start some shit by pretending to be you. You did well to cut that off quickly.

>>12127640
>>12127395
If you don't like Gundam, why would you watch it?

>>12127701

Because Tomino said he wasn't making the show for old Gundam fans, he was making it for the new generation. So I assumed it would be different.

And I liked Xabungle and King Gainer, so there's that.

>>12127679
The terminology is pretty vague. It arguably qualifies, just not for you. Though, almost all of those things happen in 00. And I've seen super robot shows with ambiguously evil villains.

>>12127713
It IS different. Look at all the idiots it's brought in that whine about how different it is from Zeta and how much it sucks as a result.

>>12127727

Not different enough for me.

>>12127727
It sucks because it's bad, not because it's different from Zeta.

>>12127766
It's good though.

I didnt like G-Reco because I couldn't relate to any of the characters.

I related to the characters in Zeta because they were all gigantic jerks that were always on the verge of punching someone.

>>12127904
Sounds like a personal problem

>>12127912

Well yeah, opinions are personal.

>>12127932
The sun is hot.

>>12127942

Water is blue.

But only in large quantities.

>>12127945
And under the blue sky.

And, the Earth isn't square.

>>12127945
Women have vaginas

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>Any gundam past Zeta
>Good

>>12127959

Not according to tumblr

>>12127965
>Zeta
>Good

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>>12127977
MGS and Zeta are basically the only good Gundams if we're being fair, everything else is mediocre to putrid shit because Tomino himself is a hack. I know of only one board who thinks he isn't utter shit, and that's this place.

>>12127945
Actually it's because of Rayleigh scattering.

>>12127988
You must go to some pretty retarded boards then.