>>12111376 If you really think that is the actual reason for the combat (and on top of that you even go so far as to suggest it is the ONLY reason), and that it is somehow forced, you are even dumber than the usual G-Reco hater.
>>12111483 Um, Aldnoah doesn't really do monster of the week in S2. Yeah, there was one fight that people describe that way, but considering it was the only one the season has had, you can't really call that monster of the week. It was just a fight.
>>12112433 Then you haven't been paying attention because there has been a good reason for everything and right now we're nearing a conclusion that they've been working steadily towards for the whole series. It's only bad pacing if you're an idiot.
>>12112470 How did the island episodes contribute to the civil war between G-IT Corp and Rosario Ten Police? Or is the America conflict settled and that's why we're in a new plotline? Or will it all come together at the end?
>>12112716 The trick is not to go out of your way to draw attention to things that the other retards will sperg out about, which just furthers the cause of making actual discussion in any form impossible to find beneath the ocean of pejoratives and 'don't like dont watch' counter-arguments that infest any thread that involves anything currently running.
>>12112734 Ignoring that guy's insistence that there's a great sweeping plot where every scene is relevant to the events of the series' end (which is rarely the case in anything longer than a film, and certainly not the case in this show), G-Reco is pretty much a road movie. The plot is the characters traveling around and learning new things and developing as people. In fantasy settings, the plot of this sort of story is very much about exploring and establishing the world.
>>12112780 >The plot is the characters traveling around and learning new things and developing as people. In fantasy settings, the plot of this sort of story is very much about exploring and establishing the world. Okay that makes sense.
>>12112691 >What are you, 8? Every Gundam, fuck, every piece of art/entertainment medium on the goddamn planet has its flaws. Stop being such a fucking sperglord. But G-Reco doesn't It's literally perfect and easily the best written show of the decade. But you're just too stupid to get it, I suggest sticking to A/Z and Build Babbies
Is this just Ironic shitposting? I remeber when G-Reco first came out it was like the JoJo anime for /a/ where the first half was really chill but second half was awesome but right now it's in reverse and mostly everyone is shitposting. How do we stop this guys? I just want a discussion without people doing this.
>>12113046 Hating fun is pretty stupid, to be fair.
But on a serious note, I don't get how you people keep falling for the trolls. There are plenty of people who can patiently explain what makes G-Reco so good, but people act like the trolls that say "you're too stupid to understand the show" and "go watch Aldnoah instead" are the G-Reco fanbase. They're not. They're just stupid fucking trolls. I mean, surely this can't be the first time you've dealt with them? Yet people are just getting blown away by it.
>>12113213 People just shitpost more and more with every new show. They've gotten a good idea of what's effective after practicing for a while so now it just never stops, and people never stop responding to them.
I have a question for the people posting "back to A/Z".
Are you just doing it ironically or as a parody at this point? It's become so stereotypical that I'm sure you'd have to have the awareness of a three year old to not realize how you looked. It's basically become something along the lines of shouting Freebird to be played at a concert.
>>12111030 >Waaaa Evafags are so shit they overanalyze stupid things like if their mediocre show was deep at all and it was a masterpiece >Waaaa if you don't like G-reco you're dumb, you don't understand Tomino
>>12114221 It is truth. A/Z is an easy to understand anime for gaijin and everyone. Pretty much entry level to anime viewer. Everywhere you go you will see that many people didn't understand G-Reco story/plot because lack of attention. Just go to those mahq, mechatalk or general facebook or somewhere else and you can see them.
So isn't it better that we let people go back to their easy way of life?
>>12114237 I feel sorry for you if you're actually serious. A/Z is shit, but if you spout shit like this without realizing how you look in an argument, you're probably autistic. You've become a literal meme and you don't even realize it.
>>12114271 What anon? All you need to do is to embrace your inner A/Z, then you will be complete.
I will make it simple for you. /m/ is a nice place where we guide the babbyys to spoonfeed themself with some A/Z porridge because if babbyys like you eat G-Reco, your babbyys teeth will fall off because it is hard.
>>12114176 >>make is so convoluted and hard to follow than not even adults can understand it >Tomino: I have it on very good authority that elementary schoolchildren can understand it quite well, so perhaps you adults can try harder too.
American adults confirmed for dumber than the average Japanese kid.
>>12111030 Marathoning last 5 episodes made me realize the problem people have with GReco. It's that there are no throwaway lines in dialogue. So if you missed one, you lost precious bit of information. And then this shit's snowballing and eventually you're fucked because you don't understand what the hell is going on. That leads to frustration and negative feelings towards the show itself.
>>12112734 They showed the strife on earth caused by the energy rationing and tech restrictions. Then we went to space and saw the shit caused by immigration restrictions on top of that, and now we're at the top and have seen the rot's set in there too and was about to lead to the extermination of most of the known human race. Presumably the Earthies and Moonies were using their conflicts as cover for building up invasions forces to take Venus, so we'll get a get a nice climactic orgy of destruction after which everyone group hugs and agrees to work together. Course, it is the nips we're talking about here so I also wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the moral turns out to be 'don't fight the system' and they go back to the fucked up status quo.
>>12114703 There are plenty of throwaway lines of dialogue (for the hundredth time, I know how the goddamn contact link works, Tomino) but, yes, there's important bits of information that makes the character's actions marginally less retarded that is mentioned off-hand exactly once several episodes before it's relevant and never brought up again.
>>12114505 You've never had a little brother, have you Anon? Kidnap someone else's, sit them down in front of one of your Chinese cartoons and ask them if they understand it. They always say 'yes' and their explanations of what's happening are fucking hilarious.
>>12113331 Here's the thing: I can understand why people might like G-Reco in spite of its flaws but this far in anyone ignoring its horrible execution and proclaiming it the second coming of Christ is the biggest fucking troll ever and the ones responsible for these threads descending into shitposting.
>>12114846 >There are plenty of throwaway lines of dialogue Let's just say, infinitely less than in your average anime series. I just feel like there is no breathing room, Tomino wants me to pay attention 100% of the time. It's unusual for anime and kinda cool.
I like the show and it's style. I haven't been keeping up with it since episode 8 or 9.
So far it's pacing hasn't kept me interested week to week but I feel it'll be better to marathon through it. If turn A came out today I'd have the same problem, but having watched turn A in it's entirety I will say that it was quite a strong show. The pacing of G reco reminds me of Turn A and Zeta.
I'm not sure where this "dont understand it" meme comes from.
>>12118143 People have a hard time paying attention because they get bored by the plot being explained rather than shown. What you see happen is a more immersive experience than what is described to you, which is why television and film have this rule called "Show, don't tell" which Reco is ignoring.
It's not that the plot doesn't make sense, it's that the method of storytelling isn't engaging enough for a lot of people so their minds wander and they miss stuff that was only mentioned.once
>>12118251 Uh, G-Reco is one of the few TV anime that actually properly makes use of the show don't tell rule. It's just that you're reading way into natural conversations for some reason and getting this nonsense out of them. Way to talk out of your ass just because you've never interacted with a human.
>>12118143 >I'm not sure where this "dont understand it" meme comes from.
It's not a meme when it's something that legitimately happens to people. It's embarrassing how badly people misunderstand the show just because they fail at paying attention. This happens with everything because people watch stuff but they don't want to actually think about it but then they go try and discuss it on forums anyway, but it hurts especially with G-Reco because the writing is multilayered so you NEED to be paying attention. So as a result the smart people are rightfully pissed off when people say some bullshit like "Bellri is weak-willed" but then the people complaining get overly defensive when this wouldn't have happened if they'd actually been PAYING ATTENTION.
>>12114221 You're a complete fucking idiot. How is it that you're able to shitpost while being unable to recognize that the other people you're responding to are also just shitposting? Does it just come naturally to you?
>>12119831 No, it's just that if you're so far up Tomino's ass you're defending wordswordswords as the only proper use of "show, don't tell" then I'm just going to laugh at you. Trying to explain would be pointless, because you've clearly already decided that anyone who doesn't agree with you must be monumentally stupid.
Have fun not realizing what an idiot you look like by acting like a faction-of-the-week giant robot cartoon is the vanguard of good writing.
>>12119976 Why are you still here? Your words came from your ass because G-Reco thread > A/Z thread. You can go back to leddit, facebook mahq group, mechatalk, tumblr or anywhere else you want to diiscuss about your favourite anime A/Z.
>>12120090 There are few people who say it's perfect and even fewer who just say they don't like it Negative posts are always the "I-don't-get-it-so-it's-shit" kind or "This-is-boring-because-I-don't-like-it"
>>12120326 And here we've got a perfect example of the second case See? There are almost no people who legitemately criticise the show, and instead resort to shitpost They say G-Reco has the worst fanbase, but all I see is the hatebase trying to give the show a bad name
>>12120090 but the reasons for not liking it are total bullshit. Who's fault is it if you find it boring? It's called shit taste. You misinterpret the show and act like some know it all. >>12118781 But it's just like U.C. and expanded on. Photon Batteries = Helium 3 JEF Megafauna = AEUG So if you understood it then why wouldn't you like it? Is this the first time you faggots have watched a Tomino Gundam show? Right now your power level is below 5000.
>>12120580 >whose fault is it It's a mismatch between the writer's approach and the viewer's preferences, it's not anyone's fault. Stop acting like people have to debate you in order to earn the right to say they don't care for something.
No show will be appealing to absolutely everyone. Your insistence that anyone who finds it dull cannot grasp it is utterly myopic. The plot is very simple, but it is being delineated in a manner that deliberately deviates from the standard Gundam formula and that puts some people off. Tomino even told us before ep1 was even out that this would happen. You DARE go against Tomino's prediction that existing Gundam fans would find it unpalatable?!
>>12120649 But that's the point if you are a Gundam fan then you should want something new. Because at this point you would realize that the franchise needs something different. The modern anime fan only likes moeshit fanservice waifu bullshit so it's a good thing if Tomino doesn't pander to the lowest common denominator. Rairaya is basically his answer to modern moeshit.
If the plot is so simple then why can't you faggots figure it out. Everything is a reference to U.C. because Tomino (with the help of Hajime Yatate) helped fucking create it in the first place.
>>12120676 >if you're a Gundam fan you should want something different from Gundam No, I like Gundam. >why can't you figure it out I didn't say I couldn't. I just said it's boring. >Everything is a reference to UC because You DO know that Tomino conceived of this as a whole new show and didn't want it to be a Gundam show, right? You DO know that he said he WASN'T making it for Gundam fans, right?
>>12120713 Yeah but the setting is future U.C. so of course it draws on U.C. info. Easy example is Minovsky Particles. So you can still notice that it's tied to the other series. Tomino is drawing references to U.C, while still being different and not rehashing the same Gundam formula.
>>12120726 Let me try that again: Referencing the UC stories is not the point of G-Reco. That is there because Sunrise said "LOL NO, you are going to make another Gundam, not some new no-name show".
Tomino did not want it to be a Gundam show, he even told us to show it to our kids instead of expecting to like it ourselves.
>and not rehashing thesame Gundam formula And therein lies the impass. I, unlike you, am not bored with the Gundam formula. I would like the show better if it were less like Turn-A and more like evey other Gundam. Because I LIKE Gundam.
>>12120777 I like Gundam too. You should embrace change. Tomino only gives challenges to youths who are full of prospects.
Referencing U.C. is still there even though it's not the overall point of G-Reco. You can do both. It is afterall the future setting of U.C.
Like when the Wuxia debuted the army was bragging about how nimble the fingers are. I liked that because in a world of Mobile Suits of course a new manufacturing company would want to advertise the new features of their high performance MS. And the meta-"joke" from the outside is that the limbs of a mecha are always seen as useless anyways.
Time to update MAHQ with all the Reconguista info. It's been awhile since you've had to add something new. Adding Unicorn was easy because it was just a bunch of Version Kas Katoki redesigns of already pre-existing suits.
>>12120828 >I like Gundam too Sure but if I'm saying "I really like Gundam" and you're saying "I would like Gundam more if it chnged" then it's pretty clear that I like it more than you do.
But here's the point: When Tomino deviated from the formula he veered toward your tastes, in doing so he veered away from mine. He knew this would happen, he told us this would happen. But neither you nor I are objectively right. Reco is simply closer to your tastes than to mine. There is no need for you to try and disprove the opinions of others in order to validate your own. When someone says they don't like something and you say that you do you are expressing an opinion. When someone says they don't like something and you say that their opinion is wrong you are being an asshat.
>>12120978 Hey dude this is the mecha board. I expect other anons to be interested in mecha anime. Tomino came out of retirement to direct a new Gundam series. You should be fucking grateful. And be glad that you get to see another Tomino series as it aired in your lifetime. Due to his past relationship with Sunrise I figured him coming back to Gundam would be impossible. Instead we get a bunch of /v/ style bitching about the most mundane irrelevant things about the show.
>>12120978 I sort of prefer Tomino's earlier more depressing stuff compared to happy Tomino stuff. It's been sort of downhill since F91. But Zeta was already perfection, you can't recapture or remake Zeta shot by shot frame by frame. Every good director needs to adapt and change. I didn't want Tomino's latter half of his career to be marred with shit like Garzey's Wing or blandness like Gainer. It's another chance for Tomino to go out with a blaze of glory.
>>12120997 Sorry, man, I'm not into that idol-worship stuff. I only care about whether or not I like the show, who made it is irrelevant. I don't discredit shows I actually liked for being mad by people who made another show I don't like, and I don't pretend to like shows I didn't enjoy just because they were made by the same director as a show I did like. Each show is judged on its own, the fact that Tomino made it does not make it more entertaining to me.
>>12121045 It surpassed 0079 by giving backstory and world building. That's why the U.C. setting is so vast today. The backstory about the first space migration that started U.C. and Deikun's actual philosophy all happens in Zeta. No time for retards. You're full of shit.
>>12121110 I know the production history. I know about Tomino and Yas and that pseudonym used by various writers. I knowabout Tomino picking Imagawa for G. I...
This won't prove anything. The fact that I know what he accomplished before his happy-pills kicked in does not inspire me to pretend to like a show that I find boring just because same-director. Similarly, I don't discunt the other Gundam shows that he didn't direct. To clarify, I'm a Gundam fan, not just a Tomino fan. If the show isn't doing it for me, then who the director was amounts to precisely dick.
But I won't hold it against him and will give his next project a fair try also.
Dota is basically the same thing as G-Reco. If you hate it, it's because you're too dumb to understand it. Sad day when people complain about things simply because they're required to do a small amount of thinking.
>>12121234 I do like ZZ. The only Gundam I've actively disliked was Wing. When Wufei just pouted and went home after losing a fencing match instead of frying Trieze from inside his Gundam I almost drooped it. Turn-A and Reco aren't awful of confusing, just a bit dull with too much slice-of-life and Reco having so many factions that none of them will really be able to stand out and shine like Zeon, Axis, Zanscare, A-Laws, etc.
>>12121380 G-Reco has exciting battles literally every episode though. Turn A you have more of a point in that it is a less actiony Gundam, but slice of life isn't inherently dull, and it had a purpose. Similarly, the factions aren't meant to be memorable, G-Reco is written to be close to real life where every army's got their own bullshit agenda and none of it matters.
>>12121820 Was total garbage mate. Characters were bland and stupid. MS designs were shit (muh special snowflake gendems for MC and friends) Story was laughable. I don't remember the music at all. Animation was mediocre for something that had 13 episodes for 3 fucking years.
>>12121763 Me too. In fact, I don't even like Gundam, I tried to watch a bunch of shows and they were all terrible. But man, G-Reco is just awesome. Everyone should watch it, even people who don't like Gundam, mecha or even anime in general. I'm going to recommend it to my dad. His favorite movie is The Godfather so I'm sure he'll enjoy G-Reco too.
Different anon here, but a question. If I like Gundam, and therefore am required to like all Gundam series regardless of shittiness, does that mean I have to enjoy SD Gundam Force? What about the pilot for the Doozy Bots?
>>12121153 I understand what you're saying but you should make an exception for the original creator. Tomino's made a ton of mecha anime and has worked in the industry since Astro Boy. So it should be no shock surprise that there are people on the mecha board that like a guy that worked on a lot of mecha anime.
You can't expect him to come back with another remake of 0079 again. Sunrise owns the One Year War now. That's why you're getting an Origin prequel OVA with big budget fancy CGI and proto-Nu Char ver Ka. 2.0 with eye lasers.
>>12121984 I'm saying the exception should be not to watch it expecting a One Year War rehash. Especially because of who's making it. If you think about his career then there's no way you could be expecting or wanting another MSG again.
>>12121275 Not the initial space migration stuff. You get backstory on how U.C. and the whole prejudice started even before the Zabis. And there's a shit ton more. Moveable Frame, fucking Anaheim Electronics zaibatsu. So Zeta added a whole lot that's why it's a big deal. stay retarded.
>>12122092 fuck Unicorn that shit was made after. You don't need Unicorn when Zeta tells you the same thing already. Unicorn is Fukai non canon fluff. I guess Unicorn invented psycoframe, linear seat and panoramic cockpits too.
>>12121871 I know you're trying to make a sarcastic post, but I think someone who has good enough taste to enjoy The Godfather should in fact enjoy G-Reco, and G-Reco is well made enough that anyone could potentially enjoy it even if they don't enjoy those other things. It's just a good story for anyone. All they really need to know is what Minovsky particles are.
My father would probably be open-minded enough to enjoy it. It's a shame yours has a little shitlord for a kid, because he might too.
>>12122465 Right, because when I want to discuss good writing with someone, I go to a board full of shitposters who don't actually read any literature.
I'll have you know that I've already discussed G-Reco at length with a number of professors of literature. They, of course, know it's worth respecting. But I'm sure you never thought of that since you've never went outside of your mother's house.
>>12122502 The breadth and ambition of G-Reco are unrivaled. It's an astonishing display of writing, acting and storytelling that must be considered alongside the best literature and filmmaking in the modern era.
>>12122490 But Reco is incredibly simple. The status quo that exists due to Capital Tower's monopoly on photon batteries and ag-tech taboo creates inequity and stifles ambitious progress. The Megafauna crew is on a road trip to Venus Globe to see what's REALLY going on and why, while everyone and their cub scout troop try to steal G-Self.
>>12122520 Joke's on you, fucker, I know Hawking and he never posts on /m/ without a name. Most of us just call him dorkly. Not that literature is even his field anyway, so it's not like he's more qualified than Gates.
>>12122534 And yet people are still too dumb to understand it. Simple my ass. Bet this guy can't even handle Lina, imagine if you gave him Invoker. Dude wouldn't even finish a Dagon before getting wrecked. Hell, probably wouldn't even be able to find the secret shop.
>>12122464 So you didn’t like. That's fine, but let me tell you why you're wrong.. Anyone who knows the series knows how meticulous and thought out it is. This is sophisticated television that assumes there is an intelligent audience for well-written, off-center, ambitious entertainment. Tomino has created a contemporary masterpiece.
>>12122711 Maybe, maybe not. One thing I do know is that a lot of people end up thinking that old=good when that's not the case. Just because a work is aged and famous doesn't mean it's that good. What makes the fucking Mona Lisa so great anyways? The woman herself is ugly and has terrible fashion sense. The background is depressing and vague. Stuff like that.
However, G-reco is pretty much a kids show so anyone making those comparisons is gay
>>12122587 Do you like these people just because they're well known or what? Just picking one example, Chaucer's writing is just a bunch of random nonsense that hardly even ties together. It's exactly what people complain about with G-Reco except it's actually valid in Chaucer's case.
>>12122885 >However, G-reco is pretty much a kids show so anyone making those comparisons is gay
Just because it's written for kids doesn't mean that it's stupid. That's just the popular perception and is why people write a lot of stupid things for kids. Not so with G-Reco, Tomino actually respects children.
And yet - though, admittedly, not Tomino's decision - it airs at a time where barely any children are going to be watching it, and I'm fairly sure that those who are watching it have no idea of the 'grander scale' of the plot, in all honesty.
>>12123102 I think it's completely fair since I can say from experience that Huck Finn and G-Reco are on the same level. It's just that the people bashing it have no idea what they're talking about. It's true that if G-Reco were not so good, they would be complete idiots for doing it, but you have to give them some sort of handicap.
>>12124173 You don't know that. And, as has been said, it can be recorded or they can watch the re-airing. We don't live in the 90s anymore, people aren't forced to only watch a show at the exact moment it airs.
Okay. You're probably just having a whale of a time pulling legs, but I'm going to offer a little experiment. If you have a kid brother - no older than, I dunno, twelve, because that's the apparent age that Tomino is targeting because he doesn't trust teenagers and anyone above the age of 20 - or if you know someone who does and who likes cartoons, convince him to watch this, and then, without any outside interference, ask him to relay the events of the plot back to you.
It's a way to test your assumption that every kid who watches G-Reco knows exactly what is going on and doesn't just watch for the pretty colors and robot battles.
>>12124839 I have already done exactly this, long before your post, because I wanted to know the answer myself. He got it just right - and this is exactly why I can say what I'm saying with such conviction. It's not a difficult plot to follow at all, despite people's determination to shitpost about it. Sorry you don't have faith in the new generation, but they're a smarter one than us.
>>12127395 The problem is that just about every person who doesn't understand about the show has some invalid complaints that are directly related to their misunderstanding. Some of them even insist they understand it when they don't. You're free to dislike it if you actually understand it, it's just that it's highly unlikely that you do. The numbers are against you, really.
>>12127640 Why does everyone have to try to be cute when I say they're free to do something? No, you're not free to dislike it if you don't understand it, because the moment that comes out, people are going to shit all over you and you will completely deserve it. Stop assuming things about your freedoms because it only leads to you having less of them.
>>12127977 MGS and Zeta are basically the only good Gundams if we're being fair, everything else is mediocre to putrid shit because Tomino himself is a hack. I know of only one board who thinks he isn't utter shit, and that's this place.
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