Star Wars Thread

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>>11772955

Fixed.

>>11773685
>>11772955
First Daleks, now Stormtroopers. Why are designers just going Audi/10 and give up?

>>11773742
well for cars it was the European pedestrian crash standards

Anybody have pictures of star wars-style space ports? That's like one of the biggest challenges I have right now (making a believable space port than can fit most types of ships).

>>11773742
>Audi/10
THAT's where I've seen the new stormtroopers before.

Other than X-Wings, why do the Rebels have the worst starfighters?

>>11774597
>not liking Y-, A- or B-Wings

>>11774582
if this is real at least it means Ridley and not the darkie is the main character.

>>11774597
>a-wings worse

You must think tie coffins were a great idea too you Imp-lover. Why didn't you commit sepuku when Palpatine died at Endor?

>>11774626
>>11774603
>A-Wings
That shapeless turd, /m/ confirmed for shit taste

>>11774597

X-wings are so overrated.

Tie Fighter is faster and more agile. In a dogfight that's everything. Better guns mean shit if you can't even point them at the enemy.

>>11774597
I can't think of a single starfighter in Star Wars I don't like. Except the K-wing, those are dumb.

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>>11774647

Are there any female Rebel pilots?

>>11774683
Quite a few in the old EU, notably in the Rogue and Wraith Squadron books. I also remember Kasan Moor from the Rogue Squadron N64 game (an Alderaanina TIE Interceptor pilot who defected to the Rebels for obvious reasons.)

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>>11774597
>Hating on based Rebel fighters

You Imps are just butthurt that B Wings>Star Destroyers

>>11772955
So... does the trailer for Episode VII mean that the Rebels didn't win?

>>11774994
No, just remnants strong enough to still be kicking.

>>11774994

>entire galaxy spanning empire

>suddenly cease to exist because you blew up their not!moon and killed some members of their expansive leadership.

>>11774597
B-Wings are fucking awesome, one of my favorite non-conventional space craft designs, specially for how they move.

>>11775004

A galaxy spanning empire that spans a tiny galaxy, ruled by an autocratic space wizard who dissolved the old government and put a bunch of military governors in place.

How would that NOT collapse with the space wizard's death?

>>11775008
>what is Alexander the Great's empire

>>11775012

Something that collapsed into decades of war between his generals and families after he died. And he wasn't even a ruthless space wizard.

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>>11775018

(and that's how we end up with the Expanded Universe imperial remnant)

>>11775018
Exactly. Disparate groups still using the old empire's troops and material, each trying to maintain a grip on their territory and even reunite the entire Empire.

Easily something that could happen. The issue is them "ceasing to exist." The "empire" as the exact same thing is no doubt over, but the same basic thing can still be the enemy, in a reduced, but still potent, form.

>>11775043

Sure, although there are probably larger subgroups with more legitimacy (and more industrial capacity) than the others. Someone's producing that new Stormtrooper armour, after all.

>>11771076
It's nothing new to complain that Jedi mysticism feels very wishy-washy and unpractical compared to an ordinary person's way of doing things. Remember when Corran Horn spent half of I, Jedi faffing about in the Jedi Academy, then he realized he was wasting his time and none of what he was learning would help him find his wife? Then he quit and went off to track her down using CorSec investigative techniques.

>>11772955
IT looks like a :3 face.

>>11774683
There were supposed to be some in RotJ, but all their scenes got cut because people got upset at them exploding and dying

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Phase II is objectively the best standard trooper armor. Prove me wrong. You can't.

>>11775092

THINK OF THE CHILDREN

>>11775095
It was really about the full-grown men

>>11775093
clone trooper a shit
Snowtrooper best trooper

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>>11775101
>standard trooper
Debateable, as it depends on whther or no their are specialized snow regiments. And even then it's BTFO by Galactic Marines.

>yfw Taung are Yautja
It's a big galaxy, /m/. What types of non-Star Wars aliens do you think inhabit the galaxy, no matter how stupid it seems? Greys, Yautja, Cybertronians

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>>11775131
And like a retard, I forgot my picture.

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>>11775131
>tfw xenomorphs can never be in SW because Fox no longer owns the franchise

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Republic or Rebels?

>>11775051
There's a difference between I, Jedi and the entirety of Traviss's works, though. I wholeheartedly agree there's needs to be some characters wary or downright disagreeing with the Jedi, and not be evil characters for it. It makes the setting richer.

But the way Traviss did Mandalorians and their relationship with the Jedi wasn't about that. It wasn't about adding to some larger whole. It was about tearing down the Jedi and lauding her precious pet characters as the true heroes.

A little KotOR: Sith Lords is fun every now and again, but it also needs to be able to sit with the rest of the works and characters where the Jedi, and the more zen/one with everything morals they bring with them, are also heroes and their philosophy correct and prudent.

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>>11774647
This.

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>>11775081
That poor tie. It pains me to see it in such condition.

>>11775255
>But the way Traviss did Mandalorians and their relationship with the Jedi wasn't about that. It wasn't about adding to some larger whole. It was about tearing down the Jedi and lauding her precious pet characters as the true heroes.
That's only true of her later works. Her early books handled both the mandalorians and the jedi pretty well. They asked a few questions that honestly needed to be asked (notably the moral implications of having millions of people bred to fight for you) without feeling overly preachy about it. But then people started bitching at her for daring to question the jedi's morally superior special snowflake status, and she overreacted, resulting in Order 66 and her Legacy books taking it way too far.

>>11775092
Really, test audiences didn't like that?

>>11774582
>yet another Vader knockoff Villain

Oh, for fuck's sake, Abrams.

>>11775081
It survived re-entry? That's pretty fucking impressive for a fighter that is the embodiment of 'less is more'.

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>>11774335

>>11774582
What's is that supposed to be?

>>11775425
To be fair, Vader knockoff villain's are very common in SW.

>>11775428
It might've been shot down in-atmosphere. That, or its navigational deflector survived.

>>11775425
It's like Char Clones.

>>11775464
...Fuck, that actually kind of makes sense.

Every fucking series has that one guy in black and wearing a mask. And his lightsaber is red.

>>11775480
Sith can't have anything but red, or else they're a special snowflake Sith

>>11773157

This fight was great. It shows a lot of character just by the way both Luke and Vader behave.

Vader barely moves and effortlessly deflects all of Luke's blows (with one hand, at that), showing how powerful and seasoned Vader actually is. Meanwhile, Luke is nervous and guarded, but swings wildly, hoping to catch Vader off guard. Notice that Vader waited for Luke to strike first and is, obviously, playing with and testing him.

It's like the Ben/Vader fight. You don't see a lot of movement, because both of them are fairly old men by that point, but you can tell both of them are/were very powerful and capable.

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>>11775615

We get it, Empire, you have big penises!

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>>11775663
Not just big, but numerous.

>>11775515
And a ton of Sith either rip off Vader of Palps anyway, so it evens out.

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Why not a Sith with a purple lightsaber? Or yellow? Or why not green, the Empire uses green lasers.

>>11775985
The sith used shitty synthetic crystals since they didn't have access to all the natural ones that the Jedi use.

>>11775985
>purple
That's an exclusive Sam Jackson color, silly.

>>11775991
I thought they used the synthetic ones because they were somehow stronger than natural crystals, and all Sith are edgy

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>>11775991
But why did Dooku have a red lightsaber? Wasn't he an ex jedi? Do they take your lightsaber away when you stop being a jedi? Because otherwise it makes no sense for him to not keep it, the council sure seemed to trust him enough. Plus, how does this apply to Vader? By the time he got his lightsaber order 66 had already happened? Who was stopping him from getting a normal crystal?

>>11775985
>Be ultra-masculine, super-edgy Sith
>Get a pink lightsaber
>People laugh at you
>Getting laughed at pisses you off
>Getting pissed off fuels the power of the Dark Side
>Enemies are too busy laughing to resist
>Be extra efficient at killing enemies

It's perfect

>>11775991
Luke's second lightsaber used a synthetic crystal too and it was green.

>>11776034

The Empire banned the acquisition/trade/ownership of both lightsabers and crystals. Palpatine gave Vader the one that's in his red saber.

Dooku was edgy and thought he was much, much cooler and more effective than he was. It was probably symbolic because he wanted to be a big, bad, evil Sith Lord reeeeeeeally badly.

>>11776062
>The Empire banned the acquisition/trade/ownership of both lightsabers and crystals.
But they are the Empire, they don't need to follow their own rules.

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>>11776042
>Implying they would laugh.

>>11776015
In the old canon, the synthetic crystals that make red blades usually produced rather weak blades. But apparently they resonate with the Dark Side of the Force, so if a Sith wielded one it actually produced an exceptionally strong blade.

In the new canon, all we can assume is that having a red lightsaber is basically a declaration of what side you're on.

>>11776111
Personally I think that's stupid, that only Sith or those aligned with the Dark side can have red lightsabers and nothing else.

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When will Spacetroopers be recanonized?

>>11776175

When they get someone to design them using something other than old TIE Fighter lego sets.

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Why is it called a B-Wing when it looks more like a T-Wing?

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>>11776299
>Why is it called a B-Wing when it looks more like a T-Wing?

>>11776299
If you turn it so the long arm is pointing upwards and view it from the side it looks a little like a lowercase b
It's also nicknamed the Blade-wing

>>11776303
Because there is already a T-Wing spacefighter.

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ANAKIN CHANCELLOR PALPATINE IS EVIL

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>>11776341
>T-Wing space fighter is Y-shaped

>>11776346
He seems like a pretty chill guy, sitting around in his robes and all.

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>>11776346
From a certain point of view.

>>11775595
>>11775603
>>11775615
>>11775663
>>11775715
MORE.

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>>11776356

>>11776346
>>11776363
>>11776356
What's your view from the high ground?

>>11776381
>TIE-fighter pilot

Poor guy.

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>>11776389
There's nothing better than the hum of a tie's engines.

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>>11776391
>Pentastar Alignment is no longer canon

>>11776397
I don't fly TIE, unless it's a TIE-Defender.

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>>11776413
You should learn to appreciate the Tie Interceptor. It is a thing of beauty and grace.

>>11776413

Only the pilots who prove good (or lucky) enough to survive in a standard TIE Fighter are allowed to move up the equipment ladder to a TIE Defender. You want a Defender, you start in a Fighter. That way, there's no scrubs going around in ships they aren't good enough to use.

Will we get a shadow trooper?

>>11776532
We've already got a darktrooper

>>11776428

"Your generic TIE grunt is just plain suicidal. And the TIE Defender jockey is bloodthirsty. But the TIE Interceptor pilot, he's suicidal and bloodthirsty. When you see a squad of those maniacs flying your way, you'd better hope your hyperdrive is operational."

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Why is Shaak Ti so perfect?

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WE SHOULD ALL BE USING MISSILEBOATS ALL DAY EVERY DAY

>>11776543
She was such a sue in that mini-series

>>11776554
just cause she didn't get killed by grievous?

>>11776554
But she immediately lost the first fight she was in and barely survived the second.

And the second was in the middle of Mace Windu and Yoda wrecking armies like they were a mild inconvenience!

>>11776541
>And the TIE Defender jockey is bloodthirsty

Damn right.
Killing X-Wings in X-Wing Alliance was so much fun.

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>>11776543
Shakti?

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http://www.mediafire.com/view/cpnc1oj27dkosc4/Tie_Fighter_Characters.pdf

Fruit.
The secret of good command decisions.

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>>11774597
>>11774603
>mfw I realize the rebel fighters correspond to the SNES buttons
>mfw Nintendo supported the rebellion

>>11775595
BDZ is still canon thanks to Rebels. :3

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>>11776374

>>11776691
As I've told several people about Cortosis, just because the name is the same doesn't mean it's the same thing.

>>11775237
Huh?

>>11776717
It's fanfiction

>>11775101
You mispelled Scout Trooper. Also Phase II best CW armor.

>>11776091

>They laughed at my pink sword
>I laughed at their puny Mobile Suits being demolished

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>>11776175
I wish Star Wars did more oer the top designs. I would buy that guy and this guy in a heartbeat.

>>11775303
Tie Interceptors are my fetish.

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>>11776761
Well, we did get the Super Battle Droids.

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>>11776773
Does anyone know the name of that one super trooper that was supposed to be a droid? I think it got up to Mk III or something, and was black.

>>11776788

The dark troopers?

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>>11775515
>mfw my Sith character in SWTOR has two orange sabers
Guess I'm one of them....

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>>11776797
Yes, that's it. I remember seeing art of them in a book when I was a kid.

>>11776851

Still the dumbest possible way to die

>>11776853
>>11776851
Horns finally useful for something.

>>11776858
But those are Mandalorians fighting Mandalorians

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>>11776873
Civil Wars are rough.

>>11776839
Darth Maul arc was the worst thing to happen to Star Wars.

Hey, was Jango's hea still in the helmet when Boba picked it up? Did he have to remove his dad's head from the helmet?

>>11774582
Darth Hitler Von Satan

>>11776881
>>11776884

Old school saber play is best saber play. None of this acrobatic kung fu bullshit

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>>11776890

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>>11776858
>>11776877
She looks better drawn, nice long legs.

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>>11776899

>>11776881
>>11776884
Also no sharpened tips like in the Prequel lightsaber, but the blunt ends in the OT lightsabers.

>>11776910

Luke's saber in Empire was pretty pointy though

>>11776884
>>11776881
this looks like shit compared to the late season clone wars

the hell disney you cheap fuckers

>>11776918

Early season clone wars looks like shit compared to late season clone wars, anon

But Rebels is generally on a lower budget

>>11776917
I gotta hand it to Star Wars, it does have some pretty impressive fleet battles.

>>11776918
Lucas ain't funding this one. I actually think the animation looks nicer, more emotive.

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>>11776921

>>11776930
Sheeeeeeeeit

>>11776910
>>11776890
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfVAs8ijn7A#t=54

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>>11776428
>>11776541


yeah whatever plebs.

>>11776541
straight out of wookipeida ya cunt

>>11774671
Underrated post

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>>11776942
Nothing like arming a giant dreadnought with a massive ion cannon leaving enemy ships completely vulnerable.

>>11776966
There's only one Rebel starfighter worth remembering and its not the A-Wing

>>11776970

Doesn't make it any less appropriate.

You'll also notice the quote marks.

>>11776985

what is it then?

>>11776989

God, separatist capital ships look like garbage

Were the Clone Wars just a test to see whether droids or clones would make a better Imperial Army?

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>>11776996
Shouldn't expect much from dirty confederates.

>>11776997

no, they were an excuse so that palpatine could increase his powers and create the empire.

>>11777010

I mean, republic models are better, but only slightly, guess is cause they don't have that sleek and sexy imperial look

>>11776299
>Big red meatball on wings
The other empire

>>11776890
>acrobatic kungfu bullshit
>he's using a fucking fencing style

Errol Flynn called from the afterlife, he says fuck you and your misplaced nostalgia.

>>11776879
The head flies out of the helmet in mid-air. It's off-screen, but you can watch the shadows on the ground.

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>>11776881
>>11776884
>>11776898
Man, I would have liked the Inquisitor's lightsaber if it was just a normal hilt with a curved bit on the fron, but then this happens and it's just awful.

>>11776970
Which is lifted from The New Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels.

>>11777078
Its just an easy mode double bladed saber

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>>11776280

Wait, this was in an episode?

>mfw

>>11777132

I wouldn't even call it easy modo, I'd say it's the only one of them with a decent design, since it can spin quickly, easily and independently. Then again, I think double bladed lightsabers (or similar weapons in any franchise) are fucking retarded and think a spear/pike or dual wielding normal sabers is far more effective in any instance where they're used.

About Siths and the red lightsaber thing:

It's worth pointing out/remembering that in the original trilogy, lighsabers were a traditional weapon reserved for Jedi. The Emperor even mocks Luke for it. It's implied that Darth Vader had one because he was a former Jedi.

>>11776348
There's also already a Y wing.

How many letters have we covered anyway? A, B, T, X, Y, any others?

>>11776848
>>11776851

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>>11777231
E and K

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>>11777078
At least it's not this.

>>11777262
Fuck you, crossguardsaber is cool.

>>11777284
>thinking they're guards and not vents
>December

>>11777339
Guards, vents, whatever they are they look way cooler than a spinning dual-bladed lightsaber.

>>11777064
>Errol Flynn
>fencing
>anything even close to resembling fighting aside from the "waving a sword around like a faggot" bit

Why do you people enjoy sucking so much dick?

Why doesn't anyone like the Headhunter? Its got such a nice shape too it

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>>11776761
How do the trooper's limbs fit in that suit when the joints clearly aren't aligned with any sort of human body?

>>11777205
I wish they kept it that way instead of giving everyone lightsabers.

>>11777419
>>11777205
Sith wouldn't be very threatening in combat if they didn't have some way to match a lightsaber, a space wizard isn't as dangerous as a space samurai wizard.

>>11777353
They are both equally stupid looking

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>>11777374
I like the new Headhunter.

>>11777502
I never liked the head hunter personally.

>But it's an x-wing without the whole x-wing gimmick!

Exactly why I don't like it. It's so bland.

>>11777502
Why is the nose so long? What's in there?

>>11777491
The Emperor didn't have a lightsaber, and he was pretty fucking threatening. He was far more intimidating and threatening in RotJ than RotS.

None of the Sith "needed" lightsabers. And let's not forget: the "Sith" weren't even a thing in the original trilogy. Which is also my point. The Emperor and Darth Vader were corrupted and affiliated with the Dark Side of the Force, nothing more.

>>11777205
In the original scripts for the first trilogy lightsabers were everyday weapons that even common criminals could be seen using.

>>11777533
I like it because its not trying to be gimmicky, then again I just like the shape of it, X-Wing, the ARC starfighter

>>11777491

Palpatine seemed to be doing pretty well against Luke without one given that he could just sit back and throw a shitload of lightning at him instead.

>>11777491
There are solid Sith swords and (other) force weapons in Legends.

>>11777537
>the "Sith" weren't even a thing in the original trilogy

I could have sworn the scrolling intro for A New Hope mentioned the Sith.

>>11777586
Nope. It just mentions an evil empire and the Death Star plans.

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Speaking of lightsaber combat

>be space wizard
>can lift entire space fighters with your mind
>never think to use your levitation abilities to control your lightsaber

This always bugged me. Yoda jumping around like a rabid weasel looked so corny to me. Would have been cooler to just have him control some floating light sabers like they were bits/funnel/fannels from Gundam.

>>11777609
Kreia does that in Kotor 2, have fun hitting them.

>>11777586
Vader is referred to as Dark Lord of the Sith in the novelization.

>>11777609

You could also have him be so good at force based combat using things like telekinesis/force pull that he didn't even need a lightsaber and just used the environment and the force itself as his weapon.

>>11777609
At least he was cheap as fuck in Soul Calibur

>>11777537
>>11777586

Vader's referred to as the Dark Lord of the Sith in promo materials, merch, etc. But that's it.

>>11777840
You're right, but if I recall correctly, it was just a vague title.

The movies themselves say nothing about the Sith until The Phantom Menace. Obi-Wan never mentions Anakin becoming a Sith. Yoda doesn't say anything about Sith either--nor do Darth Vader or the Emperor. Just the Dark Side.

And it was better that way. It had more thematic resonance.

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>>11777537
>And let's not forget: the "Sith" weren't even a thing in the original trilogy.
They were first mentioned in the novelization for A New Hope, they've been in this since the beginning. Why else would there be comics featuring the Sith out years before The Phantom Menace fully canonized their place in the lore?

>>11777932
See >>11777840 >>11777885

I don't really care about the novelizations or EU. I'm talking about the narrative for the original movies.

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n00bs

>>11777810
Yoda did try that though, it didn't work because Doko was as equally adept at using the force.

I liked that earlier version of the script where Yoda comes just short of landing on Dooku from above and mashing the lightsaber straight through his forehead.

>>11777964
Oh man. Are we really going down the "only the films count" rabbit hole?

>>11778069
gotta split hairs somehow

>>11778069
Why wouldn't we?

The films don't refer to anything but the other films. The EU is dependent on the films, but the reverse doesn't hold true. And in a discussion about what the original intended storyline was, the EU and the prequels are irrelevant anyway. That's the entire point of bringing it up.

>>11776930
How are they still missing shots?

>>11778088
>And in a discussion about what the original intended storyline was, the EU and the prequels are irrelevant anyway
the novelization is actually quite relevant to the intended storyline in the instance of the original Star Wars since it was based on earlier scripts and gives a window into the creative process and authors' intentions

>>11778095
they have a quota to meet

>>11778102
No, it doesn't. The finished product matters, not "earlier scripts."

>>11778119
>>11778119
>And in a discussion about what the original intended storyline was
original intent seems important to a discussion about what the original intended storyline was

>>11777785
>>11777840
Even then, the implication is that he's Lord of the Sith the same way Dooku is the Count of Serenno.

>>11778102
>the novelization is actually quite relevant to the intended storyline in the instance of the original Star Wars since it was based on earlier scripts and gives a window into the creative process and authors' intentions

The novelization is certainly not based on earlier scripts. The only one based on earliers scripts is the Alan Dean Foster sequel novel, which features the Kaiburr Crystal and that was more a result of creative diffusion with Lucas suggesting ideas he wanted to see for ADF. It's really interesting since the transcripts of the story conferences were recently published in Insider that he even thought it might be fun if Leia and Chewbacca ended up together.

>>11778128
Context.

Earlier scripts weren't released for the public to be consumed as art/entertainment. The original trilogy was. The changes you're talking about don't require retcons. The changes I'm talking about do.

In any case, you're missing my point: earlier scripts are irrelevant because I'm talking about the intentions and implications within the original trilogy itself. That is the parameter.

>>11778088
The EU is actually also dependent from George Lucas. According to the writers of TOTJ comics, the entire idea of the ancient jedi fighting the sith lords came from Lucas.

>>11778163
okay

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Milk and Cheese didn't know what a Dark Lord of the Sith was that time they dressed up in Vader helmets

>>11777537
My impression has always been that while Jedi build lightsabers as a sort of spiritual practice to cap off their training, Sith mainly use them out of necessity. Fighting fire with fire as it were.

Though if synthetic crystals and such can be made, why don't bounty hunters bother with them? Seems like a wrist-mounted beam saber would come in handy.

>>11778210
Craftsmanship stuff and the DIY nature of lightsaber smithing, prolly.

Anyone who could make one wouldn't make one for anyone but themselves... save for those mass production sabers as implied during events in Ep2.

>>11778482
I love that outfit Luke is wearing.

>>11778526
was he even Luke at that point?

>>11778531
I believe so.
Though he might have still been named Luke Starkiller at that point.

>>11778536
Anakin Starkiller.

Luke Skywalker was originally the Obi-Wan character.

>>11778549
Wow, Didn't know that.

>>11778482
This looks like something that would have Rules of Nature playing while they fight