Damn,why is Dougram so based? I'm right at episode 65 and

>>11768360
>would it be weekly plot/politics discussion

I would hope so--it's been a long time since there's been an /m/ show with that level of political depth. Sure, I imagine that these days you'd have trolls going "dougram more like slowgram" or something like that, but the quality of the show itself would ward off most of 'em, IMO.

I also imagine there'd be a lot of threads starting with "ITT people who did nothing wrong" and a picture of Denon.

Do you think billy could ever reintegrate back into regular life?

For some reason child soldiers usually don't adjust well.

>>11768441
That's a good question. He always struck me as fairly resilient/adaptable, though. I think he might be able to settle down as a mechanic somewhere, though with his personality I could also see him going back to his delinquent ways and meeting a bad end because of it.

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>>11768422
>I would hope so--it's been a long time since there's been an /m/ show with that level of political depth. Sure, I imagine that these days you'd have trolls going "dougram more like slowgram" or something like that, but the quality of the show itself would ward off most of 'em, IMO.

I love how even when there's no action at all in some episodes, the intrigue is done in a way it keeps the viewer hooked. Most series look incredibly bland by these standards when you compare them to one with such depth of intrincate relations and consequences of each individual act as Dougram depicts. I can only wonder what we could have by now if Kanda were still alive.

>I also imagine there'd be a lot of threads starting with "ITT people who did nothing wrong" and a picture of Denon.
Didn't finish yet but it feels like one of those situations were there are no bad guys at all. Even Lecoque is just greedy and ambitious, not exactly "evil".

Anyway, wanted to find some of those hilarious newspapers with Arab League headers and found this. Dougram Papercraft. Yay

prometheusrising.net/2011/11/20/dougram-papercraft-scans/

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>>11768441
Kid shot down a chopper with a handgun.
No way he can live normally after that.

Was Nanashi a retard or a genius pretending to be a retard?

>>11768497
He's the best autistic child ever. Always happy, doesn't give a fuck and are very, very smart.

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>>11768497
Who knows

I'm at ep 40.This show knows how to do guerrilla war right, unlike those bullshit in Code Geass or Aldnoah.Zero. The characters are suprisingly human. None of the "I want to destroy the world 'cause suffering waaa" stupidity.

>>11769717
>This show knows how to do guerrilla war right, unlike those bullshit in Code Geass or Aldnoah.Zero
To be frank, neither of those shows are about guerrilla war, let alone a semi-realistic one, so of course they wouldn't do the same thing.

>The characters are suprisingly human. None of the "I want to destroy the world 'cause suffering waaa" stupidity.
Real or merely subjective stupidity is a very human trait though, which you will find in many, many shows. Humanity isn't, unfortunately, an uniformly rational species. The world wouldn't be so fucked up otherwise.

>>11769717
I was really impressed by Dougram's portrayal of guerilla warfare. Some of the stuff about winning "hearts and minds" is still relevant even today.

>>11771180

It's relevant as in "states try to do that" because the theory exists and sounds nice on paper, but in practical reality that's not exactly working out too well. Guerrilla wars, in the current world, are quite a bit more complicated than that.

>>11771938
needs more cocaine

>>11768422
>I also imagine there'd be a lot of threads starting with "ITT people who did nothing wrong" and a picture of Denon.

You read me like a book.
He really did nothing wrong.

I'm on episode 15 and while the action is pretty good the pacing is so slooooowwww.

Ryosuke Takahashi was truly on a hot streak in the 80's. VOTOMS, Dougram, Galient, and Layzner are some of the best mecha series from that decade. The late Takayuki Kanda also deserves notice for Vifam, Dragonar, and Merrowlink.

>>11771938
That is true.

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Required viewing for all Dougram fans: The Battle of Algiers - the move Takahashi based Dougram on.

In 1954, the Algerian War for Independence began; the insurgency was performed in classic "cell" fashion using terrorist bombing tactics. France, smarting from humiliation in French Indo-China, sent in an iron-hard Lieutenant-Colonel and his paratroopers to smash the insurgency.

Saadi Yacef, one of the leaders of the National Liberation Front, stars in the film.

A gripping masterpiece, it's regarded as an important film about urban guerrilla warfare and colonialism by state and insurgent groups alike. So controversial in France it was banned for 5 years.

>>11768497
He wasn't dumb that is for sure.

Damn OP, this makes me want to watch Dougram and get the Revoltechs.
Should I watch dub or sub?

>>11776588
Sub. It's not like you have a choice at all, though, since it never got any dubs.

>>11776609
Oh... do I have to watch out for horrible fansubs? How do I know I'm watching the official subs?

>>11776706
>How do I know I'm watching the official subs?
they have a watermark in the bottom right corner

>>11776706
There's only one set of subs available, from Crinn (xnebula dot a spot for blogs dot com). You don't have to worry about the translation, it is *excellent.* The font size is a little small, but it's softsubbed so you can change it to a bigger one in Aegissub if you like. Aside from that, there are pretty much no complaints about the subs.

>>11776755
Found some(all?) episodes on youtube. The quality is... lacking. Any other good streaming site that has Dougram?

>>11776588
>get the Revoltechs.

The revo is awesome, but good luck trying to find the old ones. There's the Legacy line and Dougram got a re-release this year (it's up for pre-order in most places) but the inflated price is outrageous. You'd spend less in a much better (and bigger) option with the Max Factory model kit.
Actually, I've seen a collector's box with all the old 1/144 models (10 or so) for about 4k. They're small, old and need painting, but might be an excellent option for fans who want a complete collection.

>>11776806
Don't be a fag.

>>11776814
Make me straight then.

>>11776706
Don't worry, there's only one set of subs for this one. If you have any doubts, check anidb.net first.

>>11776806
There should be a full torrent of the series floating around, but alas, I think those raws are the only ones we have. I'm not sure if Dougram was ever released in a higher quality format (I don't think it has any BDs out there). If it was, it would be mighty expensive to get and rip those ;_;

>>11776819
Torrent it.

>>11776856
Before i download 7 GB, can you tell me if the picture quality is vastly better than on youtube?

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>>11776869
>Select one episode from the torrent, uncheck the rest
>download it
>test to see if it's up to your quality standards

>>11776315
neat thanks anon

>>11776869
It's somewhat better--the Youtube stream has a lot of those artifacts and stuff, etc. that always come with streaming. But the art and animation isn't much better; Dougram is a very old series, released not long after the original Gundam, and you have to accept a lot of QUALITY with shows from that time period. Again, there are no better raws (much less touched-up BD ones) that I'm aware of ;-;

>>11776911
It's okay Dougramnon. ;-;
Thanks for so much, I'll never forget you T___T

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>>11776919
<3

>>11773980
>Layzner
God, no. That show was awful.

>>11773980
It's a shame that Dragonar project is stalled right now, though.

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>>11768468
Like this? They knew. Also that subtle jab at the Koreans.

>>11778644
Just watch it dubbed. It isn't exactly stellar, but it's still better than HK subs.

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>>11778669
MALEDETTO ITALIANO

Dougram had the best episode previews.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm20494464

VOTOMS' previews was written in a similar poetic style, but Masato Yamanouchi's narration in Dougram made them much more dramatic.

>>11778659
>dedicated to international understanding

well shit

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>>11778669
MA VAFFANCULO!

>>11778669
/m/ Subs are including the dub, too.

>>11780463
CAZZO!!!

>>11780463
I find it funny how the dub included in /m/subs' release has the next ep previews, which the already existing eyetie rips lack. Maybe I really should buy the DVDs.

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I love ripped Crinn.

>>11780783
You're already dead.

>>11776315
>The Battle of Algiers
Cool I'll check it out. Any other war films that are Takahashi like? Or worth viewing as a mecha fan?

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>>11780783
scrolling past quickly it looks like a screen cap from Kinnikuman

>>11776928
That picture looks awful familiar, did you take it yourself? If not, it might be one I took a month or two ago.

>>11780783
I'm amazed that this isn't brought up more often, Crinn's muscle definition goes from relatively normal to ridiculously ripped between episodes.

>>11773938
The show certainly picks up for good after a certain point which I think is about 20-30 episodes in. I was also bored at first but it gets much more interesting once everything is set up.

>>11776706
It was actually subbed by /m/

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>>11784707
>I'm amazed that this isn't brought up more often, Crinn's muscle definition goes from relatively normal to ridiculously ripped between episodes.

Really? I've seen Crinnshiro everytime we have a Dougram thread. Actually, to be fair, everyone becomes a beefcake in some episodes. Even fucking Heckle.

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>>11780783

>>11780783
When I was watching the show I thought it was just Crinn growing up and the bulky Crinn was intentional.

Between the threat of constant death and the physical requires of actually being a guerrilla mixed with his natural changes in hormones and influx of testosterone I figured he was actually bulking up.

I also didn't realize just how long he'd turned Guerrilla. I figured it had been at least a year since he ran away from home or maybe more.

I was thinking when he finally meets back up with Daisy she might not even recognize him because she'd still remember Crinn the boy and not Crinn the fully grown man/hardened guerrilla.

Then a few episodes later he goes back to being normal.

>>11784707
Nah, someone else did. I saved it cause it's a good reaction pic.

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>>11785160
Reminds me of this

>>11785302

Sorry, but there's no way he'd bulk up when he's spending months on the run with insufficient food.

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>>11785997
That's never stopped anyone before.

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>>11768497
It was an act.

>>11779428
Given the tone, it's understandable. Dougram's previews is more patriotic in nature while Votoms preview is more on exploring the main character's psyche and it's surroundings. Both are suitable to the show it represented.

>>11788203
>fleshbomb character
>not being buff or totally deformed

That's as rare as cape heros with penises and without at least partial body paint costumes.

>>11790116
Wait, didn't Dougram air before Votoms? Was this some inside studio joke/cameo such as Wing appearing in G Gundam?

>>11791115
The Choro Q short aired early in Votoms' run.

>>11791115
>>11791156
Didn't Daitarn 3 air after 0079 yet it had a cameo at Solomon or A Baoa Qu?

>>11791207
No. Daitarn was '78.

>>11768360

I'll watch it when there's a release out that doesn't make your eyes bleed

>>11791207
When was that?

>>11791323
Oh. I was pretty sure it aired a few months after 0079 ended.

>>11768386
I remember that episode, it was bullshit. Locke, Rocky and Chico survived so much stuff that should have killed them. I know that happens all the time in Dougram but this episode just took it too far. I ended up feeling really bad for the Earth soldiers and I was hoping for them to get a kill to balance out the universe.

I don't think any other show's plot armour has annoyed me as much as Dougram, the show tries to be realistic and grounded most of the time, and it does a good job, but then a solid minute of shooting from like ten guys at a man suspended in the air fails to do anything. I just felt frustrated for the soldiers who had to fight the Fang of the Sun, they couldn't catch a break.

>>11773881
I love Denon as a villain because everything he does has a solid, sensible reason behind it.

>>11768497
He's a Captain Tylor; exactly as stupid as his enemies don't need him to be.

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>>11797419
>I just felt frustrated for the soldiers who had to fight the Fang of the Sun, they couldn't catch a break.

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>>11788986
>>11768497
Yeah, he reads Guevara.

>>11804278
>Guevara

No wonder he was retarded, poor thing.

How do you tell apart someone born on Earth from someone born on Deloyer?

>>11807756
El Che did nothing wrong

>>11807862

Che's adventures in Africa were on par with Tintin's Adventures in Congo though.

>>11807862
If by nothing wrong you mean killing children for the revolution and ruining the Cuban economy when he was a minister (as pretty much every comunist government did except for China), yea, he really did nothing wrong.