Why do upgrades always look like over-designed pieces of shit compared to the original? Why even have upgrades? Fuck them! If the original is good enough, it shouldn't need more shit tacked on
Shin Getter isn't the old one with stuff slapped in, it's the old one remade fromt he ground up with different proportions and design aesthetics. Less "chunky 70's super robot", and more "God Demon Emperor Destroyer of Worlds."
That's Getter Robo G. Which does look worse than the original in every way and every form, but that's unrelated to Shin Getter.
Gunleon comes to mind. Normal mode was well designed, compact but looked powerful. Magna Mode is a deviantart tier upgrade, those wings looked incredibly tacky and turning the wrench into a pile bunker was a huge step down.
A good 66% of OG upgrades look worse than the original version. Banpreios, Neo Granzon, Garmraid Blaze, Granteed Dracodeus, Valzacard, Alteisen Riese, Rein Weissritter, Solvina Regina...
Hmm, kinda with you OP, some upgrades are way overdesigned. Shin isn't tooo bad, just a few changes would make it godtier for me (wasn't sure whether to give it yellow underpants too)
The thing is, that's the chin getter. While I love its design, it never replaced the og getter in the manga. This did.
Because in Japan if something is over designed, that means it's better. Like Kamille going from the simplistic Mark II to the complex Zeta, upgrades aren't always bad. Though upgrading from Zeta to ZZ was just bad, you can't upgrade on perfection.
At that point the Getter had become something that was truly menacing and terrifying. The later scenes in the manga with everyone freaking out over the Getter assimilating the Dinosaur Empire wouldn't work with the goofy face and proportions of the original Getter. The Shin Getter was capable of much more imposing expressions and poses.
All this shitty trolling. Hate to break it to you, but Shin Getter is a top tier design that's loved by most and hated by very few. Admittedly, Chin Getter is the worst rendition of the design.
>If they were like OVA Giant Robo's then Shin would be perfect.
So basically Getter Robo Go? Because Shin's body is Go's body with Getter-1's coloring and details. I guess Go's round shoulders aren't as large as OVA GR's, but yeah.
>Because Shin's body is Go's body with Getter-1's coloring and details
Except it isn't. At all. The chest and shins
hehhave some similarities, but aside from those small things they're completely different.
It's funny how you could miss something so obvious. I mean hell, the Shin Getter Robo manga even went that further step to link the two by having Hayato design Go based on Shin during his Saotome lab days to explain why Shin and Go share the same base design.
Luckily it and everything else that ended up in ANIMA are non-canon.
>it and everything else that ended up in ANIMA
It's not originally from ANIMA though. It did end up in ANIMA, but it was in other side material.
NO MAZINGER, NO!
Mazinkaiser, for more or less the same reason OP dislikes Shin Getter, even though I like (manga) Shin Getter. Luckily Mazinkaiser is largely unimportant to the Mazinger mythos and can be safely ignored, while Shin Getter is pretty damn important to the Getter mythos. The only part I don't like about Shin Getter is the bat wings, so I'm glad they're drawn a couple different ways in the manga.
Also, Getter G rocks, fuck the haters.
That's an interesting opinion you have. Albeit, a boring one.
Let's not pretend that things can't be over-designed though. It can be a functional problem in serialized work that needs to keep itself consistent. It's why superhero costumes are usually pretty simple, for example, though that's not to say that any amount of complexity makes something over-designed.
Idiots use it as buzzword for 'not sleek' or sometimes 'not to my taste' because they think it disguises their bias. If you don't fucking like something, just be honest say you don't like it, and if you have actual concerns about something's worth or functionality, specify them. It's not that hard.
It is. It doesn't have those ugly looking wing flap things on it's back, nor does it have vulcans in it's shoulders, or that stupid flip-top chest.
Ever wonder how autists want everything to have bells and whistles to make it gaudy and hideous as fuck?
I preferred the chunky Valguard. Had a lot more personality than it's successor. Valzacard looks a tad too generic and pointy for my tastes. Good proportions on everything but the feet though.
There's only one shit design for a playable OG Mech in W, and it's the Valarm.
What the fuck kind of throbbing veiny appendages are holding them together?
Devil Z has pupils, it's not really an upgrade though
There has been a lot of Shin Getter hate recently and I don't know if it is sincere or if people literally have brain damage and think G is better with its vomit inducing colour scheme. Lyger is by far the worst getter ever conceived with the other two G forms not far behind.
Dragon's a worse version Getter 1, Poseidon takes all of the personality Getter 3 has and flushes it down the toilet, and I still don't know what the fuck is going on with Liger. It has a drill that's also a claw and fires missiles? Toei's color scheme is godawful, the manga version is only slightly better. Getter Zan was better than this shit.
I always liked how Shin Getter stayed to the basic design constraints of the original. It's still priarily simple, rounded shapes making up a design that can be recognized as a product of classic Super Robots.
On the opposite end of the spectrum, I hate how Genesic GaiGaiGar takes a wonderful Takara/Brave mecha design and completely overdesigns it into an overwhelming mess of shapes and pointy bits.
I like the Rein Weissritter's design, I think it's a good blend of alien and technological elements.
And Riese is literally just making it an even larger brick than the original was and I find that very endearing in a way.
Solvrius Reginia isn't the real upgrade and WHY ISN'T IT A FUCKING CENTAUR YOU HAD ONE JOB BANPRESTO jesus christ it stands on its fucking guns when it has a perfectly good pair of legs right there god is dead.
I agree with you on everything except Banpreios and Garmraid Blaze, though. I like Blaze form G a lot. Banpreios isn't any more of a clusterfuck than the SRX was, and that's part of that series' charm.
Dracodeus is the definition of clusterfuck, and the tiny overdetailed sprite makes it even worse.
im going to be honest here
get some taste
Cool mecha designs.
Over the top battles.
Super hardcore, take-no-shit pilots.
In many ways, Getter is the antithesis of 'morality tale' mecha series, like Gundam, with it's anti-war vibe, or Evangelion, with it's focus on interpersonal understanding.
Getter Robo says, "FUCK THAT. DINOSAURS BLEW UP OUR CITIES. WE ARE GOING TO FUCK THEM TO DEATH WITH GREEN LASERS, FOREVER."
There is no morality here. The bad guys are giant lizards. The good guys are all fucking insane. Everything explodes forever, and it is glorious.
I can only speak from an aesthetic standpoint, because I haven't actually seen anything Getter, but I think Shin has better proportions and a few interesting design elements.
Still like the original though.
Well, more or less same answer. It's the stuff we like in /m/, but more of it. Sleek lines. Powerful proportions. Edges, but not TOO many edges.
It transforms. It's got a cape. It's got multiple forms, a giant fucking axe, and it's special attacks are batshit awesome.
Shin Getter is just like /m/, but cranked up to 11, without being a parody of the genre.
It looks good. What else can you say? It's a unique design that manages to be an inhuman humanoid. Shin Getter itself in the context of Getter combines the best aspects of the original with the updated body design reminiscent of Go. It's a simple, yet distinctive design. It manages to invoke the Getter image without being too derivative of past models.
This, essentially. It combines the iconicness of the original with the proportions of Go in a way that looks very appealing.
>Shin's proportions aren't too different from Go's or the lesser known Prototype Getter
I'm not saying they're different, I'm just giving a reason why I like Shin's design over the original's.
Also, it sort of just bleeds a sense of predatory power. It's probably the long limbs that do it, but it feels like something that is going to rip your head off and eat it. It's intimidating.
It has a menacing look, looks buff and the design resembles a lot the original Getter, Kinda like Mazinkaiser, it's not too different like say Getter Dragon/Neo/Gou. and the Pupils make the Getter look even more menacing, hell mechs with pupil often look menacing
I may get flak for this, but when see a mech with pupils I think of SD Gundam.
And I cannot take any mech with them seriously.
The pink-ninja Getter Rekka looks more dangerous than Shin Getter as a result to me.
In related news...
Does that make Getter Go the best? Since it's a downgrade of Getter Robo.
over-designed usually betrays a bias towars "minimalist" designs, which isn't really a concern for asian aesthetics which tends towards what we deride as "over-designed".
Look at mega pokemon and genwunners who hate on nearly anything post gen 1 because they're "overdesigned". Now, I agree that the design philosophy for megas is kinda bad, but I can see why they went with it, and liking purely gen1 designs and deriding later designs for being too complex or whatever is fucking dumb for plenty of reasons
Except that that's not the only similarity between the two. The entire form and silhouette of Poseidon's design looks like a vertically stretched version of Boss Borot with different colours.
>the number of people who hate the Getter G designs and Shin Getter designs in this thread
I don't even know.
To me, someone who saw the newer version before the old one, the old one looks like horseshit.
This isn't about which is objectively better, its about which you were exposed first that you see as the first and emotionally not being able to deal with change.
I'm sure the original has incredible merit but I'd honestly rather have the other one on my shelf every fucking time.
The original to me just looks like a red overweight batman wearing its underwear on the outside with Master Gundam's head and Optimus Prime windows on it.
The newer one looks unique, like it fukken lifts and eats its vitamins. It looks angry. Chunky, but not overweight: Stocky. Powerful. And above all, angry.
And I'm sure my opinion is very unpopular. But its identical to yours, just from the other perspective: Accepting change is hard. Its why AC4/5 fags bicker so much normally.
Why do you type like such a faggot? And last time I checked, batman had vertical stubs and not angled horns.
1) Pretty funny considering I'm functionally by definition unable to BE a faggot. Go back to your sausage-fest anon. I can hear your tummy rumbling from here.
2) Back cover art by Bob Kane (inks by Jerry Robinson) in Detective Comics #38, April 1940, DC Comics. It sold for $565,525.00 on August 1st, 2013 via the national Herritage Company. This is by and large when Batman hit real circulation and became popular, after this getting his own line of comicbooks outside of Detective Comics that started in 1941 and when his look was cemented. You'd be right if you meant the first issue where they were purple without decoration or the second appearance where the batsuit had no gloves at all but scallopped fins are a big part of Batman's appearance and appear consistent on almost every version of him in some form or another. The fact I, someone who honestly couldn't give two shits about Batman (I think its pretty boring) knows more about it than you do.
Hah. I missed the rest of that last sentence. Shit, tell you what anon, I'll leave it to your imagination.
You're probably one of those types who's so hellbent on trying to be wrapped up in his own ego that nothing I could say could come close to some of the things you hate about yourself. The best part is if I leave it open like that, you can practically hear me saying it.