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Name shows that restored your faith in humanity /m/
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None. Frankly, humanity doesn't deserve the air it breathes.
Charity and good actions only happens because people are selfish - they didn't help the guy in pic because they wanted, but because it would be unpleasant to see him getting splattered.
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>>11190237
That wasn't really a big deal. The dude wasn't in any danger.
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>>11190244
At least they didn't want to see other people suffer. That should count for something.
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>>11190244
Pretty much this. The only faith I ever had in humanity was because of a fictional alien being but even that isnt enough
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>>11190244
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>>11190237
>mfw I made that joke this morning.

You don't go on a certain social media site known for reblogging do you?
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>>11190244
Char, please
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>>11190249
Agreed.
Not wanting to see unpleasant shit happening in front of them, which leads to them helping, I'll take that. Sure, they didn't really want to help, but every bit of help helps.

Ironic how our own selfishness led to us helping others.
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>>11190269

>They didn't *REALLY* wanna help, but...

Uh-huh, okay. Piss off and take your edge elsewhere, fedora-tipper.
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>>11190249
Even then, it's beacause of selfish desires. Even the most pious and unselfish ones are driven by the need to impress a divinity with good actions and seek their blessing/acceptance (regardless of religion, it always work like that) or just to make themselves feel better. That is selfish, despite of the resulting "positive" outcome.

>>11190253
>>11190268
Mind you, I'm saying this as someone who stood up and cheered for the Jegans at the end of CCA. It was fucking awesome. Just like GGG Final or Gunbuster. But it's ficton, that's why we like it. Real life got some serious shit to deal with.
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This story shits me to tears. He was never in any danger and he could have been freed by one person with a couple of tools.

The fact that he got stuck at all and that it took dozens of people to free him is a monument to stupidity more than anything else.
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>>11190282
Well, humans can be pretty stupid at times.
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>>11190279

>Even the most pious and unselfish ones are driven by the need to impress a divinity with good actions and seek their blessing/acceptance (regardless of religion, it always work like that) or just to make themselves feel better.

Every single one.

Every SINGLE one of the untold number of pious, kind and unselfish on this planet, they are all driven by the desire to 'impress a divinity' or self-indulgence.

Yeah, okay. I suppose your narrow-mindedness eludes you. And then you'll respond with some riposte about how you've accepted humanity's true nature or some bullshit like that. Just because some humans are pricks doesn't mean there are no good souls, edgelord.
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>>11190244
So you'd be a Muv Luv man then?
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>>11190273
It's actually true. Especially in places like fucking Perth where the train lines are fucking impossibly slow. I mean I'm in Sydney and 14 minutes for a train is fucking stupid compared to places like HK.
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>>11190244
>>11190250
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>>11190237
Gunbuster
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>>11190269
This feels like a conversation two people are having as they have a duel in mobile suits
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>>11190279
Too cynical. You have yet to see the genuine altruism in humans.
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>>11190415
Go to bed Treize, not everything has to be done in a MS battle.
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>>11190422
Doesn't mean it shouldn't though!
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>>11190244
Humans that go on about how awful humanity is are the most insufferable people out there.
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>>11190269
If it was purely not wanting to see something bad happen, they would have looked away or walked out.
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>>11190244
>because it would be unpleasant to see him getting splattered
>didn't help the guy in pic because they wanted
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>>11190279
>>11190282
Can't you just appreciate the beauty of the story ? Jesus Christ
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>>11190237
>mfw reading this thread
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>>11190237
Kangogu Senkan.
Dragonauts.
Witchblade.
Kannazuki no Miko.
Gundam AGE.
Otomedori.
Valvrave.
Gargantia.
Legend of the Galactic Heroes.
Trinity Blood.
Papillion Rose.
Yumeria.
Evangelion.
Himekishi Lilia.
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>>11190642
>Evangelion
How?
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>>11190679

Evangelion actually has a very uplifting message, it's about learning to deal with the pain caused by human relationships and learning to love yourself.
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>>11190744
tru
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Kamen Rider Fourze
TTGL
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>>11190642
>some titles I didn't recognize
Oh that's interestin--
>porn
Ah.
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>>11190679
I'm more worried at Kannazuki no Miko and Valvrave
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>>11190826
I think that's the joke. The story from OP pic is stupid because nobody was actually in danger.
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Straight Title Robot Anime. When everything was generic or SoL, it dared to be on the level of Inferno Cop.
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>>11190237

what's actually happening here?
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>>11190244
>They didn't help the guy because they wanted to, they helped the guy to prevent him from being harmed because they wanted to.
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>>11190826
Simple, he is a rapist.
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>>11190237
None cause I love humans as they are. I'd point out Fourze and Gaim to someone in need of some healing though.
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>>11190981
The train wouldn't run so the crowd went apeshit and flipped it over.
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I still believe that humanity can become better. Maybe humanity should move into space and leave Earth. Or to make a place of tourism out of Earth.
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>>11190642
>Gundam AGE.
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>>11190286
>Every SINGLE one of the untold number of pious, kind and unselfish on this planet, they are all driven by the desire to 'impress a divinity' or self-indulgence.

Well... yes. Even if they do it because it's the right thing to do, they feel like it. After all, retroactively everything people do at some point is motivated by selfish desires.

Say you're forced to kill someone. There's a choice to not do it, but you'll be killed. If you want to live, you'll choose that. If not, you'll die but but feeling accomplished by not breaking his values. Every single action we take is, in a sense, attending a selfish demand. Complete abnegation is a falacy.
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If you overanalyze it, everything is motivated by a selfish desire. Even acts of great courage or sacrifice are motivated because you feel better that you did it, or because otherwise you'd feel like shit.

But you know what?

Fuck this kind of edgelord thinking.

What matters is that you intended to do good, and that your actions ended up doing good. The motivation is meaningless. A heroic act is no less heroic if done for selfish reasons.
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>>11190244
Hello immoral-fag.
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This thread inspired me.
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Honestly I'm surprised people still actually pay attention to the bawling of tryhard misanthropes.
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>>11190279
>Even then, it's beacause of selfish desires.

So? Doesn't change the fact that they helped. Who cares the reason.
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>>11191608
That's the point of the discussion. You can't have high hopes for humanity when everything we do is just for the sake of individual indulgence. It's nice to think justice and hard work will prevail, but mankind is weak, and given the proper condtions will always, ALWAYS, resort to treachery or violence to meet its ends. Without the continuous and excruciating exercise of Law, humanity will always tend to chaos, our very own myth of Sisyphus. It's a silly example, but consider a fallen over beer truck. A lot of people, ordinary citizens, who'd never think about stealing, are probably getting there to grab a few bottles. At the slightest absence of law, the human nature regress to animal stages. As much as we praise reason, humanity is imperfect, and at some point all the development will be lost because the disruption forces are far stronger than order.
That's something we must rely on fiction to accomplish or even glimpse.
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For just feel-good shows, Patlabor and Dai-Guard will make you more optimistic about people.

It's hard to feel too bad about humanity after watching LoGH, though, at least for me. A true testament to the power of the human imagination, I thought it was. If people can make a story like that, they can't be all bad.
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>>11190237
In rough order of when I saw them ..

>Digimon The Movie
>Only the Omnimon part tho
>Trigun
>Cowboy Bebop
>Kamen Rider Kuuga
>Gurren Lagann
>Kamen Rider OOO
>Samurai Flamenco
>Gundam: Build Fighters

They all just left me with really happy feelings by the time I was done watching them. Especially Kuuga, Gurren, and Flamenco, those 3 will make my top 10 /m/ shows no matter what.
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>>11191711
I'm pretty sure there are lots of things that we do that are for the good of the group. Humans are social animals and we do tend to rely on each other for survival.
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>>11190244
So much edge
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>>11190237

I can't get my faith in humanity restored by a fucking chinese cartoon made by people paid like waiters working 16 hours a day.
That said there is no reason to have "faith", humans are all different there's no sense in comparing a chinese from the Sichuan region to a black man from Mozambique, we can only try to help the people we know and love and not be too much of a cunt to others.

Also education plays a huge part in being a "good" person, someone from Kenya might think it's right to kill albinos and eat their corpses because it's tradition there, but then again he will still love his mother and relatives.
Generally speaking people living in civilized countries are decent though, my cousin is bound on a wheelchair and people always interrupt what they're doing to help him.
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My favorite part is, when someone says "All people are like this", all they are really saying is "I'm like this". No one else is conceding, it's just you.

Like, congratulations, you're an asshole and you assumed everyone else was. I've helped and been helped for no reason at all.
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>>11191711
Not actually true. That whole concept of "humans revert to loners" thing is absolutely smashed down by the fact were were social creatures in tribes. We've always stuck in big social groups that supported each other. They even found a skeleton of an old man who'd had terrible leg injuries that happened when he was young, since the bones had healed around the damage.

That meant his tribe would've had to have supported him to reach his age.
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This. Also Vifam, Dai-Guard, and Samurai Flamenco.
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>>11190244
JACK IS BACK BABY
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Totally thought of Axis being pushed when I heard about this on the news the other day.
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>>11192609
Why hello there new desktop background.
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Gundam 00
Gundam Build Fighters
TTGL
Tiger & Bunny
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>>11192451
>My favorite part is, when someone says "All people are like this", all they are really saying is "I'm like this". No one else is conceding, it's just you.
>Like, congratulations, you're an asshole and you assumed everyone else was. I've helped and been helped for no reason at all.

This is not my blog, but I must say I do my share of charity. My sis is a psychologist and we help at a poor children's NGO. I tell you, the stuff we deal with there really makes you doubt that mankind has any value. I do help, because it's the fucking right thing to do, and I feel useful, but at the same time it's and endless ordeal.
You can live meaningfully, but overall humanity has not such concern for the others' lives.

>>11192488
>We've always stuck in big social groups that supported each other.

For the sole purpose of improving the individual's survival rate. It all resumes to save our asses in the end.
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>>11192616

You're welcome
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Humanity has evolved to be fundamentally altruistic. For most of us, helping other people gives us warm and fuzzy feelings, and watching others suffer makes us feel sick to the stomach.

So we help other people and prevent their suffering whenever we can.

That's just how things are, and that's fine. It's a beautiful way to live.

I'm not sure what the edgelords hanging around want. Do you wish for doing good to cause the charitable intense pain, so they can say they do it for honest and pure altruism deriving no pleasure from selflessness? I think that's a very quick way for humanity's social instincts to break down and turn us all into Eva characters at their lowest and most wretched.

And you know what? There are people who will give you the shirts off their back. They value that warm and fuzzy feeling inside them over avoiding the physical cold. There are those that value not seeing someone they care for die over their own continued survival. I think that's true altruism, not because being selfless gives them anything, but because being selfish would break them.
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Derailed in the 2nd post.
Damn, that's one of the faster ones I've seen.
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>>11190744
except things don't get better for him at any point. they only get progressively worse, shinji has to tell himself that things are okay, that people are good instead of being shown that their is hope for people. its like stockholm syndrome from your own life
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>>11191711
I want to take issue, not on the grounds humans are not selfish, but with the assumption that begets a negative outcome.

Game theory makes the same assumptions you do and is more or less a calculus of how to produce positive outcomes by understanding the selfish desires on both sides. Look into it, you'd probably like it if you can stomach all dat math.
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>>11190237
CAPTAIN MOTHERFUCKIN' HARLOCK (2013).
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>>11194018
>being selfish would break them
That's a pretty interesting way to define it. In the end it's not so much that Altruists actually care about the individual but that their suffering is just too unsightly for them to bear.
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>Dozens of commuters in western Australia have tilted a train to free a man trapped between the carriage and the platform during the morning rush hour in the city of Perth.

why didn't australians pushed the colony drop?
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>>11194615
Because they'd push it away but then it would come back again
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>>11194571
Does it really matter? They're still helping someone without asking for a price or reward.
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>>11194018
>Humanity has evolved to be fundamentally altruistic. For most of us, helping other people gives us warm and fuzzy feelings, and watching others suffer makes us feel sick to the stomach.
>So we help other people and prevent their suffering whenever we can.
>That's just how things are, and that's fine. It's a beautiful way to live.

This may be reflecting your own experience, or the Western civilization pattern, but it isn't true at all for mankind as a whole phenomenon. Do you think child rapists or drug dealers really care about preventing other's suffering?

Consider the ISIS example. They're getting support from the Iraqui suni population. Among them, people who'd never think about hitting a neighbour are now helping to behead others. Unfortunately, when it comes to defining societal roles, what matters is not the similarities that bring us together, but the differences. The example in OP is clear - they're helping the guy because there's empathy - be it because he was an Australian or just someone witing for the train as they were. Would they stop and help a hopeless, starving hobo laying on the street? Hardly. Peple just pass by beacuse it's not "one of them". The differences are way stronger than the bonds for humanity, and it reflects on how we behave. A decent, just, altrusitic behavior is possible, but only under a strict (and fragile) set of conditions. The rule for mankind, as long as history goes, is violence and selfishness.

>>11194213
Eh, I've got a Pol Sci masters at Security and Defense. I've got enough experience with these models. And most of the time, the negative outcome is the most likely since a rational actor is a weberian ideal Type. Don't really like it that much.
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>>11194073

Well there are those spinoff manga series in which he has a life and friends.
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>>11195201

Eh, first thing that happened in the new US democracy in Iraq was that people re-shuffled the neighbourhoods along ethnic and religious lines.
And with "Re-shuffle" I mean they grabbed somebody, drilled holes in his or her head and poured acid into their skulls. Then they dropped the body in a place for everyone to see. Beheadings and mass shootings are a step towards a less defunct polity. They might even be able to tone it down to the level of Saudi Arabia in the short run and then nothing's stopping them from replacing Saudi Arabia as the US's other relieable ally in the middle east.
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>>11194615
Does that make Amuro an Australian, what with the ending of Char's Counterattack?
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>people in the mideast like to kill each other
thank god we've got some college boys here to unravel this mystery
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>>11195201
>For most of us
>most of us
>most
There are always special cases of people who are intensely fucked in the head, and there has been no society that has condoned killing, stealing, rape, and other generally anti-social behaviour. We go harder on rape in the developed world than the developing or historical, yes, but it has never been "okay" except as a weapon of war (tacitly acknowledging it as an awful thing you don't do to your "in" group.)

Let's not ignore the fact that the US, UN, Iraq, Iran, and even Al-fucking-Qaeda think ISIS are a bunch of shits that don't deserve to live.

Humanity simply wouldn't have survived without evolving social behaviour and structures as the norm.
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>>11190237
Planetes.
It managed to destroy, rebuild, destroy, rebuild destroy, destroy, destroy, rebuild and rebuild my faith in humanity between Hachi and Tanabe's progression over the course of it.
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>>11190529
Because they are right and you're wrong?
I sure know that feel, fucking people making me feel like shit because they are right. Insufferable faggots.
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>>11194018
>Humanity has evolved to be fundamentally altruistic.
Give me the keys to your world, it sounds so much better than mine.
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>>11190244
Faggot. Kill yourself. We do not need you desecrating the glory of the human species and our perfection with your bullshit.
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>>11190308
>not figthing for your comrades despite despair
I shigg-CODE991
SHIT SHIT SHIT
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>>11190642
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>>11190244
You know, all you're really doing with this post is illuminating how petty, shallow, and undeserving you yourself are by projecting so damned hard.
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>>11195201
>Pol Sci masters

>$300 dollars starting any job I want
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